Administration official says Obama will not bring peace plan because Israel is not interested

Yeah, all that genocidal rhetoric, all the rockets, all the hatred inculcated even in children -- clearly Israel isn't interested in peace. Oh, wait -- sorry about that. Actually all that is coming from the "Palestinian" side. "Obama will not bring peace plan because Israel not interested: report," from Al Arabiya, March 17 (thanks to Voice of the Copts):

As U.S. President Barack Obama’s visit to Israel and the West Bank comes close, an official from Washington says the U.S. leader will not bring any peace place as the Jewish state is not ready to make concessions, a newspaper reported Sunday.

When President Obama was asked by a group of Arab-American leaders during a meeting last week on why he did not intend to launch a new peace process, the leader said that Israel was not ready to make concessions, the Israeli newspaper, Haaretz, cited an official, who was present at the high-level meeting, as saying.

The official, who kept his identity anonymous, said the U.S. leader was frustrated with fruitlessness of the peace process, claiming it would be pointless to pressure the Israeli government at this time.

Obama arrives on Wednesday for his first trip to the region as president....

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I hope no randomly fired rockets will get to him...That would be a big blow to any peace plans he might have had...

It is because of Hamas,it has really crazy ideas that it has never renounced,as found in its Charter.

"The Really Weird Ideas of the Muslim Terrorist Group Hamas"

http://www.antisharia.com/2012/05/17/the-really-weird-ideas-of-the-muslim-terrorist-group-hamas-2/

AND ALSO

"Article 3 on the Conclusions of Stanley Paine,Specialist on Spanish History, about Spain and Islam"

http://www.antisharia.com/2013/03/18/article-3-on-the-conclusions-of-stanley-painespecialist-on-spanish-history-about-spain-and-islam/

Pally comments like 'We will not yield one inch of Palestinian territory' tells us what sort of peace treaty is acceptable: All or nothing.

So whatever olive branch is extended, the Pallies demand all. Negotiation doesn't work like that. So their is finally no deal. Israel is doing the right thing by building in the West Bank. Their message is:'We are going to go on living in the real world while you live in your delusional fantasy.'

Apparently a number of terrorists were detained in anticipation of his arrival. Jihadists can prevent terrorism when it suits their purposes.

Two dozen terrorists were rounded up by the PA - from both HAMAS and PFLP

http://www.wnd.com/2013/03/terrorists-rounded-up-ahead-of-obama-trip/?cat_orig=world

Of course Israel wants peace; anyone paying attention knows this. But first the Palestinians must acknowledge Israel's right to exist! ...peace is impossible until then.

and the day they recognize isreal, is the day we should all play the lotto.
M

And obama will also bring "The Beast" with him ...

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4356663,00.html

A fortress on wheels!

More and more of the Jews in Israel are waking up to the fact that the war waged upon by them by the Arab Muslims is nothing but Jihad, Jihad without end, Jihad that seeks their total destruction or their reduction to miserable dhimmis under the Muslim boot.

All one has to do, to find this out, is to read Israeli English-language blogs and the talkbacks at their news outlets (I regularly read and sometimes make comments at three or four blogs, while occasionally visiting several others, and four different news outlets.

One of the bloggers I read has visited here at jihadwatch, and listened, and learned. She has jihadwatch on her blogroll.

The other bloggers themselves I don't think have been here - but one has a regular commenter, an orthodox Jew, resident in Jerusalem, who used to post here a lot some years ago.

As for the Israeli newspaper Comments and letters, in each lot of talkbacks to jihad-related articles at each Israeli news outlet I now regularly find people - Jewish Israelis as well as Americans, Australians, people identifying as non-Muslims from India, and people from central and northern and western European countries, who use terms like jihad, sharia, and dhimmi or dhimmitude, and clearly know what those terms mean. They know about Islam. And the people who use this terminology have no illusions about the so-called 'peace process'. They know that Israel must defend itself vigorously from now on, indefinitely, against the Muslims; that to do so effectively, it must hold and control the military high ground (Judea, Samaria, Jerusalem, the Golan). Some are beginning to see that if Israel intends to survive, it will also be necessary at some point to expel the Mohammedan Fifth Column from within Israel.

The thing is, that wasn't the case when I started reading regularly in the Israeli press online, seven years ago, in mid 2006, at the time of the Hezbollah-Israel mini-war. At that time, I *know* that the general flavour of the talkbacks was different; that very few of the talkbackers were routinely framing Israel's situation in terms of the global Jihad, while there were quite a lot who thought 'peace' could be made by making concessions of various kinds. And Muslim apologists trotting out the Muslim narrative didn't get answered in quite the same way as they do now.

Since then, attitudes have changed.

I think there *has* been a paradigm shift, and it is continuing.

An account of what Ayaan Hirsi Ali told a bunch of Israelis - and a bunch of idiotic foreigners, many of whom are inveterate and deluded professional 'peace processers' of long standing - last year, in Jerusalem.


http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_direct_link.cfm/blog_id/42697

Thursday, 28 June 2012
Ayaan Hirsi Ali Imparts Home Truths About Islam To Those Who , It Seems,Stilll Need It

"...The Palestinians will never compromise was her message. At one point, as someone on the panel was suggesting ways towards peace, Ayaan said something. I’m sure I heard it and perhaps can find it on a video somewhere to confirm. I believe she said, “Even if you give them Jerusalem,” and then she repeated it, “even if you give them Jerusalem, there will be no peace.” "

The thing is, the foreign 'peace processers' probably ignored what Ayaan said; but the person I have just quoted, Paula Stern, who is the Israeli blogger ' A Soldier's Mother', did not. Ayaan's words made complete sense to her; and doubtless to other Israelis who were present, who live at the frontline.

To Dumbledore: Why are American Jews so unaware and willingly blind?

I don't want anything to happen to OBAMA when he is in Israel because if that happens liberals will make him a GOD. Because they would say "he sacrified his life for humanity" Jews and the conservatives would be the culprit. Muslims would say all the stupid things they are saying now.

Why is he even going there? Who is he kidding?

Not all of them.

I see American Jews posting at Jerusalem Post, Ynet, and Israel National News, who are very well aware of jihad. Two of my Islamosavvy Israeli bloggers are olim from the USA; two are from Australia.

Give people like Pam Geller and some of the other American Jews who post right here at jihadwatch - there are quite a few - time to shake up and wake up their fellow Jews. I'm sure they are working hard at it.

And they have a smaller population to reach, overall.

Total number of Jews in the whole world: 14 million (most in Israel and USA, next largest single group in France). Total number of Jews inside Israel: about 6 million.

That's a *lot* less people to inform - and it is, all things considered, a fairly tightknit ethnocultural group - so reaching a 'tipping point' should not take as long as it is taking for much larger populations such as the general US Christian-and-secular population.

Administration official says Obama will not bring peace plan because Israel is not interested

Yeah, all that genocidal rhetoric, all the rockets, all the hatred inculcated even in children -- clearly Israel isn't interested in peace.
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But of course, none of that genocidal rhetoric, or rocket attacks, or attempted suicide bombings—now made much more difficult with the security wall, its not for want of Muslims trying—are to be considered an "impediment to peace". No, the only impediment to peace is...Jews building apartment buildings.

As grotesque and insulting as this is, it may in the end be just as well for Israel. An Obama trying to force Israel to make "peace" concessions to the "Palestinians" would be considerably worse.

For all his shortcomings, I believe that George Bush quite deliberately "neglected" the "Peace Process" in order to give Israel breathing room. It was the smartest thing he could have done.

More:

As U.S. President Barack Obama’s visit to Israel and the West Bank comes close, an official from Washington says the U.S. leader will not bring any peace place as the Jewish state is not ready to make concessions, a newspaper reported Sunday.
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What crap. All they've done is make concessions—the Sinai, Gaza—and the only response of the Muslim world has been more and more Jihad—including threats of "wiping Israel off the map".

More:

When President Obama was asked by a group of Arab-American leaders during a meeting last week on why he did not intend to launch a new peace process, the leader said that Israel was not ready to make concessions...
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And notice, Obama is making these false and ugly comments to a group of "Arab-American leaders". This would have been the perfect opportunity for him to outline what *Muslims* can do for the "Peace Process", such as cutting back on the attempts at genocide.

But of course, he blamed Israel.

But while many American presidents have been naïve regarding the chances for Middle East peace, I believe that there is something much darker going on with Obama.

I'll be glad when his visit to Israel—and the "West Bank"—is over. It is unlikely to result in anything good for Israel—or for the rest of the West.

Minoria wrote:

It is because of Hamas,it has really crazy ideas that it has never renounced,as found in its Charter.
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Thanks for posting that, Minoria—good article.

One small point, though—these ideas are only crazy to rational Infidels. Most of Hamas' ideas are absolutely mainstream Islam, and are based in the texts of Islam itself.

Gravenimage

you remarked, sarcastically - "No, the only impediment to peace is...Jews building apartment buildings".

Yep, the UNHRC is going to be solemnly deliberating over the heinousness of Jews daring to build houses in Jerusalem (Old City), Judea and Samaria.

Have you encountered *this*, from Sultan Knish/ Daniel Greenfield?

A *brilliant* satirical essay entitled, "The Deadly Israeli House".


http://sultanknish.blogspot.co.il/2012/12/the-deadly-israeli-house.html

http://www.icjs-online.org/index.php?article=4386

The Deadly Israeli House


ObamaSpeak
"the U.S. leader will not bring any peace plan as the Jewish state is not ready to make concessions"
Plain English
The Israeli's of 2013 aren't the Jews of 1933. They haven't been disarmed and beaten into resignation and supine submission, Yet.

ObamaSpeak
"the U.S. leader was frustrated with fruitlessness of the peace process"
Plain English
Despite massive American and European funding of Hamas rockets in Gaza the feeble, bloody-minded Muslims keep folding like a cheap suit when confronted by the IDF.

ObamaSpeak
"it would be pointless to pressure the Israeli government at this time"
Plain English
Despite Obama's best efforts:
turning Egypt over to the Muslim Brotherhood,
destroying Kadafi and feeing up all his weapons for smuggling through Egypt into Gaza,
giving all those tanks and jets to the Egyption military,
helping Al-Qaeda in Syria to overthrow Assad so they can then turn their weapons on the Golan.
More must be done.

ObamaSpeak
"the U.S. leader will not bring any peace plan as the Jewish state is not ready..."
Plain English
... not ready to climb into their own grave.
The only "Peace Plan" Obama has for Israel is the peace of the graveyard.

Why would they,Obama wants them to retreat to the pre 67 borders.A totally unacceptable position,guaranteed to produce another war.

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