Obama plans to extract timetable for Israeli pullout from West Bank

Obama has been safely reelected. Now he can press forward toward the full betrayal of Israel. "Obama plans to extract timetable for Israeli pullout from West Bank," from the World Tribune, March 3 (thanks to Suneil):

JERUSALEM — U.S. President Barack Obama has demanded a timetable for an Israeli withdrawal from the West Bank.

Israeli sources said Obama, scheduled to arrive in Israel on March 20, wants a detailed Israeli withdrawal plan from Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu during the president’s visit. The sources said the Israeli plan would be considered in what could be an imminent U.S. initiative to establish a Palestinian state in the West Bank in 2014.

“Obama has made it clear to Netanyahu that his visit is not about photo-ops, but the business of Iran and a Palestinian state,” a source said. “The implication is that if Israel won’t give him something he can work with, then he’ll act on his own.”

The sources said Obama’s demand has sparked concern in the office of the Israeli prime minister. They said Netanyahu has been unable to form a coalition amid a boycott by left-wing parties and an alliance by two new movements — Yesh Atid and Jewish Home — with 31 seats in the 120-member parliament and opposed to major territorial concessions in the West Bank.

“The ties between Yesh Atid and Jewish Home are strengthening,” Uri Ariel, the No. 2 member in Jewish Home, said.

So far, Netanyahu has been unable to woo any parties except for the U.S.-supported “The Movement,” led by former Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni. The prime minister has received a two-week extension from President Shimon Peres.

“In these past four weeks I tried to form the broadest possible government,” Netanyahu said. “But the main reason that I have not managed to complete the task by today is because there is a boycott of a certain sector.”

Netanyahu was referring to a demand by Yesh Atid to ban ultra-Orthodox from the next government. The ultra-Orthodox comprise nearly 20 seats in the Knesset.

On March 1, the Israeli daily Makor Rishon reported that the next Netanyahu government would destroy numerous Jewish communities in the West Bank. The newspaper quoted Likud negotiators as saying that the plan depended on Yesh Atid ending its alliance with Jewish Home, led by Naftali Bennett.

“We are going to difficult decisions,” a Likud negotiator was quoted as telling a Yesh Atid parliamentarian. “If you do not break up your pact with Bennett we won’t be able to uproot communities if there is a need for difficult decisions. Together we can do it.”

Other Israeli newspapers, quoting Likud sources, carried similar reports. They said the first step by Netanyahu would be the dismantling of Jewish communities in the West Bank deemed isolated.

The sources said the White House warned that Obama’s forthcoming visit could characterize U.S. relations with Israel over the next four years. They said Obama aides stressed that Congress, which approved $3.1 billion in military aid to Israel for 2013, supported the establishment of a Palestinian state as a U.S. priority.

“The Obama people are making this a litmus test of Netanyahu’s leadership and credibility,” the Israeli source said. “Obama supporters in Congress have sent Netanyahu a similar message.”

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You want an answer as to when?

Here it is. At the time of the Parousia, the Second Coming.

Now, getouttahere!

Shame on OBAMA!!!!!!!!!!

I think it would be fitting for Bibi to return the favor to "the little man with big ears" by poking a finger in his chest and saying: "NUTS!"

Keep in mind that this is coming from an American--and a proud one, until recently, at least. Please, Bibi, advise our arrogant idiot of a "president" to go pound sand. Tell him that if he's coming as nothing more than an agent for the "palestinians," that you prefer to deal with them directly, and not their proxies. Tell him that the only "litmus test" that matters is your dedication to the security of your citizens--and that that's your job, not his. Tell him that if this is not acceptable to his highness, then there's nothing to talk about and he should cancel his visit, thanks anyway. Tell him to go "extract" some of that and then try to extract his head from his backside.

He's leaving you very little to lose by standing up to him. Tell him to go sit on a nail and spin...

I hope that the Israelis realise what he's up to.

Remember he has proven anti semitic connections.

And by brazenly ordaining in his UN appearance 'the future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam', he's clearly both ripping up the First Amendment and making his position absolute.

The West Bank is part of Israel. So is Gaza.
"U.S. President Barack Obama has demanded a timetable for an Israeli withdrawal from the West Bank."
I respectfully suggest that Obaabaama withdraw from the White House.

The West Bank is part of Israel. So is Gaza.
"U.S. President Barack Obama has demanded a timetable for an Israeli withdrawal from the West Bank."
I respectfully suggest that Obaabaama withdraw from the White House.

Sorry to say Mr. President, but you are an ass and BiBi should tell you to get stuffed and mind your own business.

Then BiBi should ask you publicly what you are going to do the day the Israeli Air force levels Iran, once they have the bomb.

Should make for an interesting sound-bite!

Numbnuts!

Judea and Samaria, the soi-disant 'west bank', = military high ground (and so is Mt Zion, in the Old City, from which Muslim snipers used to take pot shots periodically at Jews in the rest of Jerusalem, prior to 1967, and so are the Golan Heights, from which, before Israel seized it in defensive war, Muslims used to snipe and lob missiles).

A Judenrein Arab Islamic state of 'Palestine', squatting sneeringly on that military high ground which is also the historic core of eretz Israel, with the Old City (and all its most ancient Jewish Sacred Sites) as its 'trophy capital) would exist for one function and one function alone: to redouble the genocidal Jihad against the Jews.

And all the world's antisemites, Muslim and non-Muslim, would be simply ecstatic with fiendish glee.

On the subject of Judea and Samaria, very recently (mid-late 20th century) renamed, by Arab/Muslim propagandists and BS merchants, 'the West Bank'.

A series of excellent essays by 'Hugh Fitzgerald', formerly frequent contributor.


http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_direct_link.cfm/blog_id/47857

Monday, 4 March 2013
A Daniel Mandel Come To Judgement: Israel, Settlements, And The Rewriting Of Law And History

http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_direct_link.cfm/blog_id/47858

Monday, 4 March 2013
Fitzgerald: What's Behind Opposition To The "Settlements"


http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_direct_link.cfm/blog_id/47859
Monday, 4 March 2013
Fitzgerald: Judea, Samaria, and "Occupied Lands"

Excerpt:
'But "Judea" and "Samaria" were used by the Jews for more than a thousand years before Jesus began to use those words, and so did all Christians for another nearly 2000 years,

'until the Arab Muslims came along in 1948 and began to make everyone forget those terms, be embarrassed by those placenames, and instead adopt, for two of the most important, though tiny places, in world history, the absurd phrase "the West Bank" -- a phrase which, of course, has meaning mainly for the Jordanians, and is not even geographically accurate, describing as it does a kind of ear-shaped area, and not a "bank" of land, of similar width along its entire length, parallel to the river in question -- the Jordan -- at all.'...


http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_direct_link.cfm/blog_id/47860

Monday, 4 March 2013
Fitzgerald: Occupation? What Occupation?

and

http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_direct_link.cfm/blog_id/47861
Monday, 4 March 2013
Fitzgerald: The Arab-Israeli Conflct -- Nationalism Or Jihad?

"...Against Israel, the rhetoric, the attitudes, the entire refusal to contemplate the permanence of an Infidel sovereign state, can all without difficulty be ascribed to Islam. The local dhimmis, such islamochristians as Hanan Ashrawi and Naim Ateek and others, promote the Muslim view and Muslim demands. That may confuse a few, but it should not confuse anyone familiar with the phenomenon.
The war against Israel is not an "ethnic" nor a "tribal" war by Arabs against Jews.

'When rants against Israel are repeated in Pakistan, or by Mahathir Mohamed in Malaysia, or by the assorted Islamic groups in Indonesia, one sees clearly that what is going on is prompted by the belief-system of Islam.

'It is a war against a non-Muslim state, by as many Muslims as care to participate...".

'Muslim Arabs, local ("Palestinians") and non-local, understand perfectly why Israel will never be accepted and must in the end disappear.

'They differ on the instruments through which this may best be achieved.

'They differ on the amount of time it will take -- there are the Rapid Jihaidsts of Hamas, and Hezbollah, and the Slow Jihadists of Abbas's PLO.

'But the understanding of what the end result must be, at some point, is shared by all of them.

'It is the Israelis, or many of them in the ruling elites, who refuse to see what is staring them in the face. It's too upsetting.

"** It would require seeing control of the "West Bank" as indispensable -- control of the marches, of the invasion route, of the aquifers necessary for Israel to live.** {my emphasis - dda}

' It would require ending the participation in the farce of this "Palestinian" people that the Israelis themselves refer to without any seeming understanding of the way that they thereby promote the "two-tiny-peoples" business, that which since the 1967 War began with the careful creation of the "Palestinian people" and has been so relentlessly used to present as a matter of competing nationalisms what is, in fact, a classic Jihad. Classic in aim, that is, but not classic in its instruments. For as with Western Europe, outright military conquest is unlikely.
Other methods are being employed...".

And, finally:

http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_direct_link.cfm/blog_id/47862
Monday, 4 March 2013
Fitzgerald: Darura

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A classic article from a journalist who was a journalist back in the days when some journalists really did know their trade.

Martha Gellhorn's 'The Arabs of Palestine', 1961

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1969/12/the-arabs-of-palestine/4203/

http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/196110/gellhorn

(one or both of the links should work).

And from that article, this:

"..Long bleak memories will recall the Sudetendeutsch and Czechoslovakia.

"In a new setting, Palestinian refugees (that is, the so-called "Palestinian" "refugees" - dda) assume the role of the Sudetendeutsch. Israel becomes Czechoslovakia.

"Propaganda prepares the war for liberation of "our brothers."

" Victory over a minor near enemy is planned as the essential first step on a long triumphant road of conquest.

"A thousand-year Muslim Reich, the African continent ruled by Egypt [Gellhorn wrote in the days of Nasser at his maddest; but today and always the final aim - as John Roy Carlson saw clearly in Cairo in 1948 when he investigated the Muslim Brotherhood - impeccably orthodox Islamic, is not merely an Islamised Africa but nothing less than Islam, Islam, Islam Ueber Alles, from pole to pole of planet earth - dda] may be a mad dream, but we have experience of mad dreams and mad dreamers.

"We cannot be too careful. The echo of Hitler's voice is heard again in the land,...".

Today, Obama and far, far too many within the western world and beyond it are eagerly lending themselves to the Cause of the genocidal Muslim Jihad against the Jews...and, therefore, knowingly or not, taking part in assisting Islam in its megalomaniacal drive toward Total World Domination.

Every time any part of the Ummah, anywhere, is assisted to gain control of this or that bit of Infidel 'Turf' (whether that turf was never before ruled by Muslims, or whether it was seized and ruled by Muslims at some former time but then lost to resurgent Infidels reclaiming their - the infidels' - own, as in Spain, India, Israel...), the Jihad advances: every time foolish Infidels urge or compel their fellow Infidels - in Israel, in India, in the Philippines, in Thailand, in the Balkans, anywhere - to accede to Muslim demands (which never cease and are never satiated but, rather, whetted by any and all concessions), the de facto Empire of Islam advances its blighting sway.


Hate to say it, but obama isn't merely stupid, he is stupid to the point of being criminal. Either that, or he is just evil, and he knows that what he is doing will kill the US, and damage the rest of the world. Perhaps beyond repair.

He has no knowledge of history, economics, and the only psychology he understands and practices are those areas dealing with the manipulation of weak minds.

He is a supremely ignorant, ego tripping empty suit.

Those who aided him in getting into a series of positions he would never be qualified or fit for, will hopefully be held accountable for what they have done.

Israel has as little to fear as any Islamic supremacist state who receives billions of dollars out of the American taxpayer's pockets.

About all that will happen is a bunch of bluster from Obama to try an appease his precious Muslims, and then he'll do nothing because his hands are tied by the people who pull the strings on American foreign policy. The US Military Industrial Complex will see to that. There's over $3 billion already approved for Israel so they can by their products.

let's do the jews in.That is the final mission.
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My feelings exactly, George, and I'm not one who's watching the skies over Jerusalem for signs of the Parousia. Maybe Netanyahu also ought to remember his Bronze Age ancestors' proverbial "stiff-necked" character.

Seeing the O in office and a State Department that was disgraced by Hillary First Amendment-Challenged Hamhocks for four years, I'm glad my diplomatic career ended when it did.

"They said Netanyahu has been unable to form a coalition amid a boycott by left-wing parties and an alliance by two new movements" ...

obama has also athreatened not to go to Israel unless Netanyahu forms his coalition. But I think that Net will form his coalition in time for obama to still go to Israel as planned on March 20.

And obama chose to schedule his trip to Israel--for the first time as president--on the *same* day that Jesus made his triumphal entry into Jerusalem on a donkey--on Nisan 9/10, which is March 20. obama has a messiah complex, so it's no accident that obama chose this same exact day and on a democratic-donkey no less; and it's also interesting that obama is going under the guise of "peace". Hmm, sound familiar? ...as islam claims to be a religion of peace, but of course it is not. obama is pure evil, just as islam and it's core tenets are, as well.

Jimmy Carter was (is) stupid. However, I was not embarrassed of him. This OBAMA is really a traitor to US and more than half the voters like him. That is unbelievable. I am embarrassed of this guy OBAMA.

Hey I just ran across this news headline ...

'Obama will visit Israel even if no coalition formed'

American official tells Israel Hayom that U.S. President Barack Obama will visit Israel later this month whether or not a new Israeli government has been established by that time. The official said this was because Obama's intended audience during his upcoming trip is the Israeli public, not the government.

More here:

http://www.israelhayom.com/site/newsletter_article.php?id=7675

Uncle Kepha, if you served at State when one could still do that with a sense of honor and high puropose, then you were fortunate to enjoy a meaningful tenure there. And, I'll bet you're just as happy to have left before the fall. You know, I thought Hillary was a disaster...but John Kerry makes her look like Charles-Maurice de Talleyrand!

Honestly, if I were in any position to influence the Israelis, I would urge--implore--them to cancel Obama's visit...

Who is this skinny Marxist Muslim to tell Israel anything? I hope I live long enough to see this pompous ass exposed.

What George said..as a Canadian tho..(ty G)..

Greens aren't the only things O can't read..

Israel cannot defy the US, or Obama, with impunity. The US is the only major country standing up for Israel in the UN and other international organizations. The British, French, Norwegians, etc, would vote for, and support, a UN-sponsored boycott of Israel in a second, were it not for the US.

As South Africa showed, it's not easy for a country to defy the combined boycott of most of the world's countries. Israel would have no market for its goods and services, and would be unable to openly purchase equipment for its defense or industry.

This is why Netanyahu has to tread very carefully when dealing with Obama. The Democrats still depend on the nearly-unconditional support of the majority of US Jews, so Obama can't afford to appear too pushy or unreasonable towards Israel. However, if Netanyahu were to appear derogatory towards the President, it would serve as a justification for anti-Israeli policies.

Diplomacy is a very delicate dance, and has no room for emotional outbursts.

Thank you for the link.
No, He didn't stay in the grave. He's alive, and He's coming.
http://crossmuslims.blogspot.ca/2012/04/he-is-risen-il-est-ressuscite.html

Thank you Champ.

I'll sleep to the rhythm.

You're welcome, Salah!

You're welcome, Davegreybeard, lol!!

Wonder what happened to my response to that silly "delicate dance" comment above? Lost in cyberspace, I guess. So, I'll just say, how many million Jews in this country? How many of them nominal Democrats? And Obama wants to threaten and bully Israel, acting in the interests of those who would destroy her? The right answer is, "No thanks, Mr. President; our security is not negotiable. If that's your expectation, please stay home." Is that "indelicate?" Good!

Wonder what happened to my response to that silly "delicate dance" comment above? Lost in cyberspace, I guess. So, I'll just say, how many million Jews in this country? How many of them nominal Democrats? And Obama wants to threaten and bully Israel, acting in the interests of those who would destroy her? The right answer is, "No thanks, Mr. President; our security is not negotiable. If that's your expectation, please stay home." Is that "indelicate?" Good!

Wonder what happened to my response to that silly "delicate dance" comment above? Lost in cyberspace, I guess. So, I'll just say, how many million Jews in this country? How many of them nominal Democrats? And Obama wants to threaten and bully Israel, acting in the interests of those who would destroy her? The right answer is, "No thanks, Mr. President; our security is not negotiable. If that's your expectation, please stay home." Is that "indelicate?" Good!

Had not realized that he would be trying to advance the thought of himself as "Messiah" (anointed one) until reading the comment above from Champ (thank you for that information).

When reading or hearing of things regarding Israel in the news, I recall (and at times re-read)Ezekiel chapters 37 and 38 and know that all will turn out well in the end. Muslims and others who desire to destroy will not succeed.

It's not easy for a country that doesn't like its people to starve or be injured to endure an international boycott. It takes a North Korea or a Taliban Afghanistan to stand up to such treatment.

You're welcome, Somehistory!

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