Pakistan: Islamic supremacists beat up, fine families who vaccinated their children against polio

muslim and muslim countries have been dishing out pain, death, and slavery on innocent humaity for over 1400 years.

I think instead of eliminating Islam which realistically can never happen anyways we in the West and the rest of the civilised world simply leave the Muslim world to continue it's endless quest for Islamic purity in other words just leave them to suffer and die from diseases these people can never be reformed or changed as long as they don't bother us I couldn't care less how many of their children die let 'Allah' save them since he's all powerful.

Islam can definitely be eliminated if the will exists in the West to do so.

First the West needs to recognize Islam as a threat and then create policies and plans to work towards it's eradication, just as we did was Nazism.

Then we invade Islamic countries, replace their regimes with secular-democracies and if required go to war against those muslims who would fight us, like the Muslim Brotherhood for example.

You could make it a 100 year plan, rather than take on all Islamic countries at the same time, go after the key ones first.

Of course Islam would need to be banned and then western knowledge would need to take it's place...just as muslim invaders replaced the previous non-muslim cultures with Islam.

My friend I must politely disagree with you 1. Any invasion of a Muslim country only stirs up fanaticism amongst the slaves of Allah they would see this as proof of the Western conspiracy against them and would fight to the death against us I think of Afghanistan and Iraq are shinning examples of how an invasion of a Muslim country can backfire on the West and the immense cost involved in doing so.

2. Muslims are taught to hate democracy as for them this is shirk the only sin their Allah never forgives even if such regimes were put in charge then they would surely require a constant Western military presence to keep them in power.

So to conclude western knowledge would never be accepted by the Muslims they would do anything to live under the precious Islam the best we in the West can hope for is for the Muslim world to remain divided as a united one would be an even bigger threat than the third Reich. We must continue to support Israel as it is our frontline in defence against the Islamic hordes and we must also work to create a large apostasy movement in Islam manly for those in the West we must try to convince and show them that Islam is false and encourage them to leave this religion or even to become secular Muslims if this is done then there can be peace in the world.

Philip Zimbardo?? I strapped him down to the bed in the institution and gave him injections of happy juice...He was a highly deluded individual as I remember...I wouldn't consider any of his experiments as credible...He is a lot like the 'mad Doctor' in the movies...

...the West and the rest of the civilised world simply leave the Muslim world to continue it's endless quest for Islamic purity...

The problem with that, as you probably have forgotten, is that Islam does not just stay over there and compost itself, it exports itself around the world, taking root all over the place like parasites invading a host...
I agree that Islam cannot be destroyed, but in the west, the US especially, all forms of sharia can be banned...Much of sharia is irrelevant to kuffar interests, but the parts that are , are already illegal or not compatible with the Constitution...For that reason, Islam cannot fully practice freedom of religion in this country...if they want full sharia, or any sharia, they have to move to some country that allows it...

Islam may export itself around the world, but we in the West can do our level best to contain it by banning any and all travel by Muslims into Western countries. Here in the US, we can deny family unification visas to all Muslims. No one who isn't here already can ever enter.
I heard a story on the radio where people in Afghanistan and Pakistan want most to come to the US. They don't want us to make their countries safe. They want to come here.
Remember the Times Square car bomber. He was an immigrant from Pakistan. He became an American citizen and, when he appeared in court, told the judge he never really meant it.
The best we can do is cordon off the Muslim world.
I agree with you that those who want sharia need to find one of fifty-seven states to call home. Refugees from one of those states have fifty-six others to emigrate to. There is no need for us to feel compelled to admit them. Assimilation is not in their vocabulary. It never will be.

What is a 'secular Muslim'?

I'm sorry to say that I no longer believe there is such a thing. Either you believe in individual human freedom or you don't.
Would a 'secular Muslim' not care if his daughter went out without a head scarf? What if she fell in love with a Christian or a Jew?

My friend, I think some of your suggestions are good and would be in accordance with my plan.

However do keep in mind the people known as muslims today once used to be non-muslims who were mostly converted by sword and then state imposition of Islam.

If they can be turned into muslims by force, they can be turned into non-muslims by force as well.

As I mentioned, those muslims who wage war against us will be eradicated and then secular-democracy can be established.

I wouldn't call Iraq and Afghanistan disasters but rather a first step in the right direction. We toppled a couple of very dangerous regimes, the Taliban and Saddam.

However because our leaders had no understanding of Islam, they gave back the gains by putting muslims in power, rather than recognize it is Islam that needs to be eliminated.

Any muslim that will fight on behalf of Islam is no different than Osama bin Laden in my view and an enemy who should be rightly destroyed.

Most muslims would likely leave Islam if they were given the freedom to, but they can't because there is death for apostasy.

Islam is useless and in fact detrimental to humanity as a whole. It has contributed nothing but slavery, genocide and wholesale destruction of millions of people and their cultures and nations.

It is high time that non-muslims finally confront this evil monster that has been dogging us for many centuries and defeat it. After all, don't forget that muslims are also working towards our annihilation and conquest, it's only fair we do the same to them.

Pakistan: Islamic supremacists beat up, fine families who vaccinated their children against polio

Last summer, a Pakistani Muslim cleric said that polio vaccinations were un-Islamic. More recently, the Taliban was murdering people who were administering the polio vaccine in Pakistan. And the quest for Islamic purity continues.
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Why does "Islamic purity" so often lead to crippled and dead children? (This is, of course, a rhetorical question).

And polio has surged back wherever pious Muslims assert themselves—Nigeria, Somalia, Pakistan...

More:

After the vaccination team left the area on Thursday evening, militants of banned outfit Lashkar-e-Islam (LI) arrived in four vehicles and surrounded the area, said Salman. They then took parents of the immunised children to a ground and trussed them up, he added.
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How *dare* these parents love their children more than Islam?

More:

According to Salman, a local LI commander, identified as Nazar had warned the tribesmen not to vaccinate their children. Approximately 20 people were tied by Nazar, who demanded Rs20,000 be paid for their release.
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More kidnapping and ransom. What would these Jihadists have done to these parents if the tribe *hadn't* paid the ransom?

More:

Shahbaz Khan Afridi* from Speen Qabar, Sipah said those who paid the fine were released with a warning to refrain from further immunisation, which was deemed “a conspiracy against Islam by infidels”.

Shahbaz said he borrowed the amount to pay for his safe release. “I don’t know where the security and political administration officials were when we were tied and beaten up,” he complained....
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Well, given that so many of the Pakistani authorities essentially agree with the Jihaidsts, it is hardly surprising that they would give them a free hand...

"viewpoints" wrote:

Is it human nature in christian countries for 2 out of 3 people to inflict lethal pain on the innocent as seen by the experiment conducted by Dr Philip Zimbardo...
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Brainless moral equivalence from the vile "viewpoints".

And he cites the sadistic and unprincipled Philip Zimbardo, who abused his power as a teacher.

But even here, "viewpoints" equivalence does not hold up. Not a single person was physically injured in Zimbardo's mindless experiments, let alone suffered what he refers to as "lethal pain".

Would that that were true of Islam.

Instead, pious Muslims engage in violence and murder every day. How many medical staff and charity workers have been slaughtered for the un-Islamic "crime" of trying to save children from suffering, disability, and death?

Nice try, creep—no one here is going to buy your witless attempts at moral equivalence.