1. Russia caught Tamerlan Tsarnaev and mother on wiretap discussing jihad

    Even if the Russians had been specific, why should the FBI have done anything? They’ve been taught for two years now that jihad is a peaceful spiritual struggle, a noble and beautiful thing. To have acted on this would have been “Islamophobic.”

    Yes”and this is madness. We face the same Jihad that the Russians do.


    “Russia caught Tamerlan Tsarnaev and mother on wiretap discussing jihad”

    Is she still claiming that the US identifying her spawn as the Jihad is just trumped up ‘because they are Muslims’?




    AMERICANA who also posts as MUXLIM suddenly appeared here on JW in the last several weeks. I strongly believe *IT* to be a paid troll, *Paid* for each post IT makes. I also believe IT is a Muslim, or Muslim sympathizer, or at least an infiltrator to sow seeds of dissent, distraction and division. I have observed IT engage and enrage many regular posters here, in a short period of time, with banal counter-intuitive arguments. IT has annoyed “Champ”, “George”, “Miriam Rove” and many others. In an argument with Champ IT claimed to be a “Female”, which is why I call “IT” IT as IT’s writing style is distinctly masculine in nature.

    It is remarkable the amount of drivel IT has produced in a few short weeks and the number of posters IT has offended; and the actual number of IT’s posts is far beyond normal. IT claims to be from the Boston area but with “strong” British connections and British experience (now enhanced to include many international connections and influential family and other connections). IT is constantly morphing and Chameleon- like adopting and adapting to and with IT’s interactions here to become all things to all entities. The truth matters little to IT. IT salts its nonsense with half-truths and dis-information to elicit controversy, thus occasioning responses it can in turn, respond to in an ever-burgeoning morass of garbage. *BUT* IT is paid for each of these so the more we engage IT, the more it profits.

    IT tries to position itself as supporting the counter-jihad position but has a host of non-viable platforms, which clearly demonstrate a fundamental lack of understanding of the basic tenets of Islam or it is just deliberate obfuscation. IT’s basic argument is that Islam needs to self-reform and establish an international forum of “moderate” Mullahs to call for reform. Fat chance that. The quintessential non-starter.

    IT writes long puerile sections while trying to pretend IT is in agreement. IT”s intent is to draw posters into endless debate about issues that have no traction thus diminishing the value and information in the article thread. All Classic communist agitate/propaganda techniques.

    Ignore IT.

    Don’t waste your time engaging IT in any way. Trolls are paid for EACH post. This is why they begin arguments. The more the merrier, from their perspective. If there is no engagement, they move on eventually. Persona is difficult to camouflage. I will keep an eye for additional new monikers.

    Click here for the profile, behaviour and tactics of a PAID TROLL.




  3. This is where the people putting the evidence together are critical. Who knows how many pieces will turn up that really should have given someone a clear picture?

    Now for some good news on the jihad legal front! The government’s federal prosecutors have successfully fought to have Osama bin Laden’s name used at trial.

    NEW YORK”Osama bin Laden’s name should not be banned from the terrorism trial of an Egyptian Islamic preacher despite claims by defense lawyers that it would be prejudicial toward their client, the government has told a federal judge.

    Federal prosecutors said in court papers filed Friday in U.S. District Court that references to the deceased founder of al-Qaida will not be prejudicial or inflammatory and are important to explaining the case against Mustafa Kamel Mustafa to the jury.

    They noted that Mustafa is charged with conspiring to provide or providing material support to al-Qaida and said the fact that bin Laden was the leader of the group at the time “is plainly relevant.”

    Mustafa was extradited to the U.S. from Great Britain in October to face charges that he conspired with Seattle men to set up a terrorist training camp at a ranch in Bly, Ore.

    The government plans to prove the camp, which never opened, was to be used for training in military tactics, weapons, assassinations, hand-to-hand combat and explosives.

  4. ***Notice that “Americana” has developed a new tactic this morning to maintain civility and attempt to befriend many posters here and on other threads; but I must warn you not to be taken in by this new-and-improved impostor. When dealing with mohammedans, always be on your guard.***

  5. George and I have written Robert regarding this troll “Americana”, so perhaps it’s time for everyone within the sound of my voice to do the same–well, within the sound of my keyboard. If you’re reading this, then please write Robert, too. Thank you!

  6. I see from some old “mike ryan” posts that he voted for Obama the first time around (sorry, no second chances there to redeem such stupidity) and had all these anxious thoughts to express about poor Native Americans being persecuted by whites. At best, he’s confused. At best.

  7. Back to the comments on the Jihad family from Chechnia.

    It’s hard to fault the FBI. All Muslims are potential terrorists since they believe the doctrine of evil. All Muslims are members of a Fifth Column and each one’s goal is to create a disturbance within civilization. Islam sucks dry the resources of civilized and productive folks.

    Islam is lethal to civilized society. It needs to be removed from the West, at the very least. But it is impossible to watch each Muslim. They need to seen as an army of enemies and treated accordingly.

  8. I bet the Russians think the US authorities are backwards and stupid…They may have a point…
    Maybe asking 100% of the FBI is asking too much…But I don’t think it is asking to much to rise above 30% which is about where this case is…

  9. It’s been said that “The radical Muslim is the one who chops your head off, while the moderate Muslim is the one who holds you down while he does it.”


    Zubeidat was the maker of jihad kids bringing bloodthirsty killers into the world destined for slaughter and carnage.

    Her murdering sons sprung from her hateful womb with sword in hand ready to do battle with infidels shouting “Allahu Akbar!!!”

    She deserves a prominent place in the Mothers’ Hall of Shame.

  11. Yesterday I was clicking around between innings in the Twins – Rangers game, and stopped at the Tom Sullivan Show on the Fox RINO channel. There was Tom interviewing the beautiful black bate and Fox reporter Lauren Green. They were discussing Islam and its possible connection to the Brothers Tsarnaev and their mom.

    Lauren was pontificating about how a subset of people of any religion will grab onto certain statements in their scriptures to justify extremism. Tom, the likable old dunderhead, said that’s why he doesn’t allow discussions of the Bible on his radio show because when a caller quotes the thing, then callers swamp the dashboard, each with his interpretation of the particular biblical statement at issue. Lauren chuckled, noting that there are as many opinions about religion as there are people. Referring to her credentials as a professional journalist, she said that when people learn that she covers religion, they invariably say that religion is the root of all our troubles, but Lauren disagrees with that, but noted that extremists of all religions grasp onto phrases to justify their actions, such as McVeigh and Nichols when they did their Christian terror bombing in Oklahoma City.

    So much for Lauren’s journalism credentials, and Tom’s too, for that matter. As I clicked back to the baseball game, I couldn’t help but think:

    They didn’t make the link between Mrs. Tsarnaev’s statements and the Ko-Ran. As Lauren blabbed on and on about how the Bible and Holy Ko-Ran both held good and evil phrases, and that some people focus on the good phrases, and others, terrorists, on the evil ones, she didn’t offer any comparison of the evil phrases in either book. For example, she didn’t compare Warfare is ordained for you. with an equivalent in the Bible. Also, there’s strong undisputed evidence that OK City directly involved several Moslems, mostly Iraquis but not all of them, and the Iraquis in OK City that week openly acknowledged they’d served in Saddam’s Republican Guard during the George H.W. War back home.

    Tom, he of the national radio and TV shows, didn’t notice what was missing in Lauren’s argument, he was too busy nodding his haid and smiling in agreement. The man almost came in his pants when Lauren invoked OK City, proof of the equivalency she was claiming.

    Lauren, Tom, Geraldo, Bill, Rosie, Joy, sensing that silent mass of moderates,
    Equivalents all, they haggle: how this could happen here, to us, , why oh why?
    Biblical phrases = Ko-Ranic phrases, both twisted out of context by subliterates,
    This vast majority of Unicorns, taking peace from the Ko-Ran, not trying to die.

    Everything turned out ok anyway, the Twins beat the Rangers 7-1.

  12. Ignore AMERICANA IT is a paid TROLL. Obfuscate. Compromise integrity of the thread sucking you apes into long drawn out arguments about horse excrement. Taqiyya practitioner. PAID a bunch of money. Filthy troll. Ignore IT and continue on with the regular self supporting drivel that brings you to climax. AMERICANA, shut the heck up and keep u irritating swine.

  13. Cuda wrote:

    “You think that you have some pull with Robert on this site, but you do not. You’re just a paranoid person who doesn’t like it when people disagree with you and you try to bully them off of this site. It won’t work.

    Go cry to Robert now.”

    No, I am not a paranoid person, nor am I a bully.

    However I am fed-up with trolls, and this “Americana” in particular, and I hate evil and islam most of all. Standing up to liars and evil is a good thing, and “Cuda” is making it out to be a bad thing? Hmm. Yet he hasn’t noticed that several other posters are fed-up with “Americana”, too? Well, I think I know why he has singled me out here today …

    About a month ago “Cuda” attacked me and my Christian faith on another thread, some of you may remember. He openly hates Christians, which is why he’s attacking me here, nothing more. I also find it interesting that he been posting for weeks, and yet he shows up today seemingly in-the-know about events that have unfolded over the past 9 nine days between “Americana” and numerous other posters, but he doesn’t have a clue.

    In fact George is fed-up with “Americana”, as well, and he wrote me here asking me to please report this troll “Americana” to Robert as he did–which I promptly did–so in turn I’ve requested that others do the same and write Robert. Others can choose to write Robert, or not, since there is no bullying towards others on my part in that request. I was simply encouraging people to write Robert, I am not bullying them or “Americana” either. It’s silly to suggest that I’m bullying. “Cuda” ought to take his own inventory before taking mine.

    Many of us, not just me, are fed-up with “Americana”.

    “Cuda” needs to read through the threads and do some catching-up on the countless people who I guess have “bullied” poor “Americana”. And I also think it odd that “Cuda” is siding with “Americana” sight unseen!

  14. I must address this other remark by “Cuda”, as well …

    He wrote:

    “You think that you have some pull with Robert on this site, but you do not.”

    I have never claimed to have any or even ” some pull with Robert”.

    In fact I actually agree with “Cuda”; that I don’t have any influence over Robert at all.

    And if “Cuda” had perhaps taken the time to ask me directly if I think I influence Robert, then I would have told this person, No; that I don’t think that I have ANY influence over Robert. In fact I write him quite often and my email’s often go unanswered and/or ignored.

    That said, I know that I have the *freedom* to write Robert and I feel quite welcome in doing so, and then Robert can decide what to do, or not do, in each instance. I report, Robert decides. That’s my position.

    But I also must laugh at the notion that “Cuda” thinks I have some power over Robert, when I don’t think that way at all. Quite the opposite, really.

  15. ALERT ALERT all my fine anti jihad citizenry. Mike Ryan is a burka wearing troll. A dhimified liberal who isn’t aware that once he helps them defeat us his head is next. Troll ALERT troll ALERT sound the alarm!!!! He’s screwing up the integrity of our noble threat. He’s probly an undercover MoHammeden spy. Call in the drones. He probably is IT. Paid troll paid troll. Wtf does troll mean anyway u whiny bunch of sharmutas.

  16. On the subject of Americana and trolls in general, I must respectfully disagree with the consensus here about one point: I don’t think their activity on comment threads does hardly any harm at all. I never understood the concept of “derailing” a thread. I like people’s commentary to meander and go off the beaten path into interesting byways. And if a pro-Islam troll is doing it, so what? How exactly is that going to harm anything? If a relatively new visitor to Jihad Watch is going to be so preciously brittle (or stupid) that they would actually be swayed by an Americana in favor of Islamopologetics and against the Counter-Jihad, then were they worth caring about in the first place? Anyone who is reasonably intelligent who is On The Fence about this issue would not be reasonably intelligent and would not have the open mind precisely demonstrated by being On The Fence — if they would be easily swayed by an Americana working his two-bit sophistry shell game.

    Call it LemonLime’s Law: If an observer is swayed by a troll, he was never intelligently going to be on our side in the first place.

    And indeed, some of the most spirited and informative and substantive comments threads I’ve seen have been those in which some troll has “derailed” it off its tracks — arousing and inspiring and galvanizing some of the varied talent that so many Jihad Watch regulars have. What’s not to like about that…?

  17. And speaking of the quasi- and/or crypto-Equivalencists already inside our Big Tent (who nearly always for some reason take the form of people with something up their ass about Christianity), JW regular Davegreybeard posted two excellent comments that should be set in stone as a reminder of the Point:

    The first one —

    — is a nice brief prelude to the longer more substantive one:

    Davegreybeard posted many other comments on that thread worth reading — as did Champ and Mo; and this is a perfect seque to tie two of my previous comments here into a neat bow: These three JW regulars were roused to rally their talents by the wrongheaded (if not bullheaded) Equivalencism of Cuda and Karl Pov. So, in a way, one has to thank Cuda and Karl Pov for bringing out the best in our fine Christian friends.

  18. Okay I’m going for a swim and to catch some rays! …and I’m sorry that I’ve made this thread about me now.

    Love you guys! :)

  19. Just got back from a golf-day here and it didn’t take long to find the “active” thread on the troll-front. Glad I spent the day in the sunshine!

    Champ, you didn’t make this thread about you; “Cuda” did that for you. Only a fool would question your bona fides here.

    The notion that I might have any “pull” with Mr. Spencer is absurd. This place is his creation, part of his life’s work and all prerogatives are his–he doesn’t have to honor any requests from a second-string poster on his comment threads, and that’s all I am here.

    I’m still a relative newbie here at 6 years, but in that time, I’ve NEVER “gone crying” to the management about ANYONE–until now. I find this dishonest, disrespectful (of anyone but herself) “Americana” troll so reprehensible that I felt my request was the right thing to do. I still do.

    I see that this annoying, disruptive presence is still with us, posting it up on the latest threads with a “kinder, gentler” facade. That should answer any questions about my “pull” with the management here! That’s OK, I did what I could.

    I understand that posting on this subject is only further diversion from the purpose here–making me part of the problem. My apologies, just wanted to clear the air from my standpoint.

    This place has allowed me to share thoughts and feelings with like-minded folks, many of whom I think the world. There’s an honesty here that I can’t even share with many of my personal friends–lots of otherwise good people don’t understand the jihad-threat–and don’t want to hear about or accept it. I think that’s powerful and valuable. Too valuable to accept a toxic presence like “Americana” running amok here. Just one man’s opinion…

    That’s all. Thanks!

  20. Dear, I’ve not seen Americana say or do anything “annoying,” but I do see some are harassing her. And as far as “trolling” is concerned, I’d say that your incessant posting of these off-task personal attacks fits the very definition of trolling.

    Until Mr. Spencer states that HIS blog is not a forum for free speach and divergent opinions, others should be accorded at least a modicum of respect.

  21. Hi, Mike Ryan …

    Please read through the invective comments being written by a troll named “Americana”. This poster began commenting on April 19 on this thread:

    There have been *three* triple-digit threads that began 7 days ago: the above thread, and two more below:

    Take care, my friend.

  22. Hi, Mike Ryan. “Mike Ryan” is a rather unusual name for a Jewish Zionist. I found your post below, on Atlas Shrugs, dated Sunday, February 28, 2010 at 10:40 pm.

    “mike ryan said…
    I am a Jew and a Zionist and I have been these things all my life.

    I got into a squabble on Jihadwatch with several posters who didn’t like what I had to say.

    The abusers and harassers brought this fight here.

    Pamela, for whatever reason, has made the decision to ban me based on their libelous remarks.

    Okay. Such behavior does not speak well for people who claim they support democracy and freedom of speech.

    Good day.”

    To avoid a re-occurrence of your previous problems, might I recommend a healthy pause between the time you read something and the time you decide to dump? Use it to do some research. Maybe consult with Americana and Muxlim if they are available.It would be a terrible thing to be confused for a troll, eh?


  23. Mike Ryan wrote:

    Dear, I’ve not seen Americana say or do anything “annoying,” but I do see some are harassing her. And as far as “trolling” is concerned, I’d say that your incessant posting of these off-task personal attacks fits the very definition of trolling.

    Dear Mike, I know that you are a long time poster here. “Americiana” weighed in here about a week ago with some *very* ugly stuff.

    She then”as Champ noted”realized that this approach wasn’t working, and then decided to give herself a “plausible” makeover. The very point was to appear reasonable to posters such as yourself.

    George, Dumbledore’s Army, myself, and many other posters have taken her on. I believe you know that none of us are apt to go after posters for no reason”even those we might have disagreements with.

    If I thought there were the slightest chance that “Americana” is anything but the worst sort of troll, I would be the first to give her the benefit of the doubt.

    She is trying to establish a “rational” posting history here”my guess is that if she were successful in this, then she would start regularly slipping in her sly apologia. She does this at times now, in any case’she can’t help herself.

    And now her attempts to sow discord here at Jihad Watch appear to be working. Several solid posters besides yourself have become upset because it seems that some posters are “picking on” her.

    Please read her history here, Mike. It’s a long slog, but you’ll see what’s been going on. Thanks.

  24. But it’s a pity that the trial might exclude the ‘inspiration’ for Osama bin Laden’s violent behaviour – namely, Islam, isn’t it?

  25. Confused? No. I just don’t react particularly well to veiled threats.

    Is my name really that problematic? If you ever got the chance to know me, I’d explain my family’s history, and it wouldn’t be an issue.

    I like Robert’s books and what he has to say; I’m not here to get into a pissing match with anyone, or to defend myself.

  26. Okay, Champ, thanks for the links. I’ll take a look at them. Though I still read almost every article on this sight, I don’t peruse the comments like I used to. It might be I “spoke” before knowing all the facts. It just seemed like the warnings were a bit overkill.

    If there’s a problem, I’m sure the moderators will fix it.

    Thanks, and take care.

  27. Guy Macher said “All Muslims are members of a Fifth Column…”.
    Agreed ! 1000% ! with this, and with all your remarks about Muslims and Islam.

    Many may think that yours is a common opinion, but actually I’m beginning to think that it’s a very Uncommon opinion.
    I hear almost everyone who speaks against some aspect of Islam betraying their complete incomprehension of the true nature of Islam by speaking of “radical Muslims” and so-called “moderate Muslims”.
    The cure for this eventual, but inevitably Fatal misunderstanding, is to read the Koran, from cover to cover.

  28. “George and I have written Robert regarding this troll “Americana”, so perhaps it’s time for everyone within the sound of my voice to do the same–well, within the sound of my keyboard. If you’re reading this, then please write Robert, too. Thank you!”

    You think that you have some pull with Robert on this site, but you do not. You’re just a paranoid person who doesn’t like it when people disagree with you and you try to bully them off of this site. It won’t work.

    Go cry to Robert now.

  29. The Third Terrorist: The Middle East Connection to the Oklahoma City Bombing is a book by television journalist Jayna Davis about evidence of an alleged conspiracy behind the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing. The Justice Department initially sought, but then abandoned its search for a Middle East suspect. The book was published in April 2004 by Nelson Current Publishers, and became a New York Times best-seller. In contrast to conspiracy theories that the bombing was a false flag attack perpetrated by elements of the US government, the book presents a theory that links the Oklahoma City bombers to agents of Iraq and Al-Qaeda, operating under Iranian state sponsorship.

    from Wikipedia

  30. correction …

    I wrote:

    “I also find it interesting that he been posting for weeks.”

    oops …

    I meant to point that “Cuda” has NOT been posting for weeks.

  31. Hi Champ,

    I seem to be noticing a trend lately; commenters who have not posted for a long time (like Cuda, for about a month) or sometimes commenters whose nicknames have never been seen before here suddenly pop up to harp on some other JW regular.

    I found one of those older threads where Cuda was lashing out at Christians in general, and at JW Christians.

    I found this one quote of Cuda’s telling:

    “It’s easy to interpret Bible verses any way you want to. The same goes for the Koran. Nutters like you should feel right at home with Islamists.”

    And when JW regular “Mo” took Cuda to task by saying he should go gripe about Christianity on his own blog, because the main topic here is Islam, Cuda retorted:

    “I thought this was the Jihadwatch blog , not a blog about Islam.”

    Isn’t that precious (as the Church Lady would say). So Cuda implies he has no problem with Islam, per se, only “Jihad” — yet he has quite a profound itch to scratch about Christianity.

    Which leads me to be mystified as to why gravenimage respects Cuda so much. I’m a believer in the Big Tent, but I’m sorry: at the main flaps we should turn away all Equivalencists (unless perhaps they want to make themselves useful by sitting in the corner licking envelopes and otherwise keeping their pieholes shut).

    (And, as I have noted before, Equivalencists aren’t really all that much advocates of equivalency but actually seem to hate Judaeo-Christianity more than Islam, as the Cuda quote above seems to suggest. More or less the same goes for Multiculturalism, which when you look beneath the surface is not really about respecting all cultures equally, but rather is about favoring non-Western cultures while disparaging Western culture.)

  32. All true, Gravenimage, thank you! …and I would add about 10 other names to that list, as well; but those following these threads all know who they are.

    Also, notice that “Cuda” is being nasty this morning referring to me as a bully. And he pulled this crap about a month ago. I also find it strange and somewhat telling that he would side with “Americana”.

  33. In Cuda calling you a bully, Champ, I detect major projection. Interesting too how disruptive Americana has been, but then that has been the goal all along, which, to be fair, she (he) (it) has accomplished to a fair extent. Too bad some (though not many) have missed what Americana is really all about, but I figure that’s their problem, not ours. Hope you’re doing well, my friend.

  34. Champ wrote:

    Also, notice that “Cuda” is being nasty this morning referring to me as a bully. And he pulled this crap about a month ago. I also find it strange and somewhat telling that he would side with “Americana”.

    Dear Champ. I believe that this says much more about how successful “Americana” is in disrupting things here at Jihad Watch.

    I respect both Mike Ryan and Cuda, and can very much see how someone who has not been following “Americana’s” nasty posting history here might well believe that other posters were being unreasonable.

    If I came in at this point after being away for a week I would be confused, as well.

    The very worst outcome would be if “Americana” was successful in turning Anti-Jihadists against each other.

  35. Hi, Wellington …thank you for defending me, my dear friend! I’m doing well, and I hope the same for you and yours :)

  36. Wellington wrote:

    Too bad some (though not many) have missed what Americana is really all about, but I figure that’s their problem, not ours.

    With respect, Wellington, I believe if this continues that it will be a problem for all of us.

    I believe that most trolls are very instructive in their presence”but not “Americana”. Since her “makeover”, she has become superficially plausible. No wonder she has been successful in sowing dissension .

  37. Hi, Gravenimage …you make some excellent points, but this isn’t the first time that “Cuda” referred to me as a bully. He has viciously attacked me before about a month ago, and looong before “Americana” came along. I explained this in my 12:39 post, so please read it. Thank you!

  38. ps …

    “He has viciously attacked me before …”

    Specifically, “Cuda” viciously attacked me and my Christian faith about a month ago, and then he ended it all by referring to me as a bully. Referring to me as a bully wasn’t the worst of it. He hates me and my Christian faith, so his bully remark has more to do with his contempt for me, and not “Americana’s” influence.

  39. Hi, Gravenimage …

    On another thread “Cuda” wrote this today:

    “Champ, you do more back slapping around this forum than any other user here. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.”

    I personally find his input not worthy of “respect”; especially since his remark isn’t even remotely true, but you are of course entitled to your own opinion. Take care.

  40. ps …

    Gravenimage, what I meant in my above post to you is that you’re entitled to respect whomever you please; since I know you well enough to realize that you don’t respect this particular comment from “Cuda”. I just reread my post, so I didn’t intend for it to come across that way. As always, the best to you.

  41. I hear almost everyone who speaks against some aspect of Islam betraying their complete incomprehension of the true nature of Islam by speaking of “radical Muslims” and so-called “moderate Muslims”.
    The cure for this eventual, but inevitably Fatal misunderstanding, is to read the Koran, from cover to cover.

    I’m afraid it’s not that easy. Even when one reads the Koran, then concludes that it is a manual of deadly and fanatical supremacism, one can still conclude that “most Muslims are ignorant of their own Islam” or “most Muslims are lax and don’t really follow their own Islam”, or some such nonsense that ends up de-fanging most Muslims. It’s a nice hypothesis; the only problem is how do we identify the truly harmless Muslims? Are they the friendly ones who are smiling at us, with sparkling white teeth? Wow. I wouldn’t set foot on a plane if the airport security were staffed and run by some Jihad Watch commenters who apparently would let a Muslim sail through security as long as that Muslim fit their flimsy criteria for being one of the many Muslims who must be harmless.

  42. Muslim Behaviour by Percentage of Population Saturation

    The following is adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond’s book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat:

    Islam is not a religion nor is it a cult. It is a complete system.

    Islam has religious, legal, political, economic and military components. The religious component is a beard for all the other components.

    Islamization occurs when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their so-called ‘religious rights.’

    When politically correct and culturally diverse societies agree to ‘the reasonable’ Muslim demands for their ‘religious rights,’ they also get the other components under the table. Here’s how it works (percentages source CIA: The World Fact Book (2007)).

    As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to anyone. In fact, they may be featured in articles and films, stereotyped for their colorful uniqueness:

    United States — Muslim 1.0%
    Australia — Muslim 1.5%
    Canada — Muslim 1.9%
    China — Muslim 1%-2%
    Italy — Muslim 1.5%
    Norway — Muslim 1.8%

    At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs:

    Denmark — Muslim 2%
    Germany — Muslim 3.7%
    United Kingdom — Muslim 2.7%
    Spain — Muslim 4%
    Thailand — Muslim 4.6%

    From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population.

    They will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply. ( United States ).

    France — Muslim 8%
    Philippines — Muslim 5%
    Sweden — Muslim 5%
    Switzerland — Muslim 4.3%
    The Netherlands — Muslim 5.5%
    Trinidad &Tobago — Muslim 5.8%

    At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islam is not to convert the world but to establish Sharia law over the entire world.

    When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions ( Paris –car-burnings). Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and threats ( Amsterdam – Mohammed cartoons).

    Guyana — Muslim 10%
    India — Muslim 13.4%
    Israel — Muslim 16%
    Kenya — Muslim 10%
    Russia — Muslim 10-15%

    After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning:
    Ethiopia — Muslim 32.8%

    At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare:

    Bosnia — Muslim 40%
    Chad — Muslim 53.1%
    Lebanon — Muslim 59.7%

    From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels:

    Albania — Muslim 70%
    Malaysia — Muslim 60.4%
    Qatar — Muslim 77.5%
    Sudan — Muslim 70%

    After 80% expect State run ethnic cleansing and genocide:

    Bangladesh — Muslim 83%
    Egypt — Muslim 90%
    Gaza — Muslim 98.7%
    Indonesia — Muslim 86.1%
    Iran — Muslim 98%
    Iraq — Muslim 97%
    Jordan — Muslim 92%
    Morocco — Muslim 98.7%
    Pakistan — Muslim 97%
    Palestine — Muslim 99%
    Syria — Muslim 90%
    Tajikistan — Muslim 90%
    Turkey — Muslim 99.8%
    United Arab Emirates — Muslim 96%

    100% will usher in the peace of ‘Dar-es-Salaam’ — the Islamic House of Peace — there’s supposed to be peace because everybody is a Muslim:

    Afghanistan — Muslim 100%
    Saudi Arabia — Muslim 100%
    Somalia — Muslim 100%
    Yemen — Muslim 99.9%

    Of course, that’s not the case. To satisfy their blood lust, Muslims then start killing each other for a variety of reasons.

    ‘Before I was nine I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was me against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; and the tribe against the world and all of us against the infidel. – Leon Uris, ‘The Haj’

    It is good to remember that in many, many countries, such as France, the Muslim populations are centered around ghettos based on their ethnicity. Muslims do not integrate into the community at large. Therefore, they exercise more power than their national average would indicate.

    From the UK which is approaching Hair-trigger rioting.

    Notice the lies and pleasantries on the placards. It struck me how capable and quick to assemble the bearded-wonders are and then I remembered that roughly 75% of UK muslim savage women and 50% of UK muslim savage men don’t work.Apologies to Pamela Geller. Explains why the EDL marches are on weekends. Max.

  43. Hi, Mike Ryan …

    You wrote:

    Okay, Champ, thanks for the links. I’ll take a look at them. Though I still read almost every article on this sight, I don’t peruse the comments like I used to. It might be I “spoke” before knowing all the facts. It just seemed like the warnings were a bit overkill.

    If there’s a problem, I’m sure the moderators will fix it.

    Thanks, and take care.


    You’re welcome, Mike; and with Marisol gone, then I’m not entirely sure who has the time to monitor this site now. Anyway …

    Max has done his due diligence in researching this troll “Americana”, and I must hand it to him for posting these warnings and I applaud him for his efforts and taking the time to do this for us. He’s the real deal, and so is George. They are both courageous men/posters; as are many men and women here, too.

    Thank you, Mike, and please take care.

  44. Bravo, LemonLime!!

    Yes, and thank you for posting those comments by “Cuda”, they do reveal a lot about this poster and that my above accounts are true. “Cuda” definitely hates Christians and Christianity; and I’m sure that Gravenimage had no idea that “Cuda” had written such things. But now some of his vile comments are here for all to see.

    Again, thank you, LemonLime, for presenting the truth here. Much appreciated, my friend! :)

    And if “Cuda” wants to hate Christians than that is certainly his choice, but expressing his hatred here does not serve us in fighting against the real threat: islam and company.

    Christians do not pose this kind of threat, not at all.

    Please, lets stick to fighting the real enemy.

  45. Hi, LemonLime …

    In your above post regarding LemonLime’s Law, you make some excellent and thought provoking points; some I haven’t considered until now. So thank you for presenting this valuable position for others to chew on: hey mainly me. Okay maybe your advice is a little bit like chewing on cooked kale ’cause it doesn’t taste too good, but it’s good for you. Yeah it’s kinda like that 😀

  46. Champ, I do take your point. And certainly, I disagree with other posters myself on certain specific matters from time to time. That is to be expected, I believe, with such a large and diverse readership as Jihad Watch has.

    I just hate to see an-out-and-out troll such as “Americana” sowing dissension in the ranks. I believe, in fact, that that has been her aim here all along.

    I hope you have a great swim. We’ve had one of the first really nice, summery days here today in the Bay Area.

  47. I screwed-up the the third sentence, last paragraph; it should say:

    That fact (that the topic of islam/jihad is unacceptable, even among close friends) makes this venue a powerful and valuable forum.

    Sorry, long day, I’m tired…

  48. Hi, Gravenimage …yeah I’m in SoCal and the weather has been really nice lately, so it was a perfect day for a swim, and then hubby and I went out to dinner. Take care, my friend :)

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