Muslim cleric from International Union of Muslim Scholars on Jews: “If only Hitler had finished them off, thus relieving humanity of them.”

This talk is strongly based on the Qur’an. “You will surely find the most intense of the people in animosity toward the believers [to be] the Jews…” says Qur’an 5:82. Thus Tareq Hawwas says, “The Jews are among the true enemies of the Islamic nation.”

The Qur’an also says, “And the Jews say, ‘The hand of Allah is chained.’ Chained are their hands, and cursed are they for what they say. Rather, both His hands are extended; He spends however He wills.” (5:64). Ibn Kathir explains: “Allah states that the Jews, may Allah’s continuous curses descend on them until the Day of Resurrection, describe Him as a miser. Allah is far holier than what they attribute to Him. The Jews also claim that Allah is poor, while they are rich. `Ali bin Abi Talhah reported that Ibn `Abbas commented on Allah’s statement, The Jews say, “Allah’s Hand is tied up.” “They do not mean that Allah’s Hand is literally tied up. Rather, they mean that He is a miser and does not spend from what He has. Allah is far holier than what they attribute to Him.” Similar was reported from Mujahid, `Ikrimah, Qatadah, As-Suddi and Ad-Dahhak. Allah said in another Ayah, And let not your hand be tied (like a miser) to your neck, nor stretch it forth to its utmost reach (like a spendthrift), so that you become blameworthy and in severe poverty. In this Ayah, Allah prohibits stinginess and extravagance, which includes unnecessary and improper expenditures. Allah describes stinginess by saying, And let not your hand be tied (like a miser) to your neck. Therefore, this is the meaning that the Jews meant, may Allah’s curses be on them.”

“IUMS Member Tareq Hawwas in Antisemitic Diatribe: ‘If Only Hitler Had Finished Them Off,'” from MEMRI, April 18:

Following are excerpts from a religious program featuring Tareq Hawwas of the International Union of Muslim Scholars, which aired on Al-Quds TV on April 18, 2013:

Tareq Hawwas: The Jews are among the true enemies of the Islamic nation. Their enmity began with the beginning of the call to Islam.


It is well established among Islamic scholars that the Prophet Muhammad died as the result of eating poisoned meat, given to him by that Jewish woman in Khaybar. She invited him to a feast, and she gave him poisoned mutton. She knew that he was partial to the shank, so she filled it with poison. When he tasted it, he was informed [that he was poisoned]. Some say that the lamb itself spoke, while others say that he had a revelation. The Prophet Muhammad got up, but some traces of the poison remained.

Thus, the scholars consider the Prophet Muhammad to be a martyr because he died from the poison given to him by the Jews. Before that, some of the Jewish tribes tried to throw a rock at him, and tried, more than once, to send people to kill him. These are not mere claims, but have been well established. These conspiracies began when the first light of Islam began to glow, and they surreptitiously try to conspire against Islam.


The Jews are the enemies of this nation, and they spare no effort in preventing this nation from gaining power. They have their ways. But before I go into that, anybody who knows what the Jews are like knows that this type of conduct is not out of character.

First of all, they are among the people most rejecting of Allah. None has attributed falsehoods to Allah more than the Jews. They said that Allah has a child, that He is poor, and that He is miserly. The Jews attributed to Allah all the negative traits that one should not even attribute to the most common of people. Thus, the Jews are among the people most rejecting of Allah.


In addition, they are the slayers of Prophets. How many prophets they have slayed! They butchered Yahya and Zakariya, and tried to kill the Prophet Muhammad. They are the ones who tried to kill Jesus. They are the slayers of the prophets.

Moreover, they are cowards. Allah said: “They will not fight you all except within fortified cities.” What is happening in Palestine proves the cowardice of the Jews, and proves that they are the most cowardly of Allah’s creatures. If not for the remote-controlled weapons, which they hide behind… By Allah, they are too cowardly to engage in direct combat.

They are the most miserly of all the peoples. Wickedness, trickery, and deception are engrained within them. The Jews — with only few exceptions — have a natural disposition toward treachery. The Jews think nothing of violating treaties. They have no respect for them. What has happened in Palestine from the beginning and to this day shows us that the Jews have never respected, for a single day, any international agreement or treaty that they signed.

The Islamic nation has suffered from the Jews’ violation of treaties ever since the days of the Prophet Muhammad in Al-Madina. These traits are what makes them employ all means of trickery and deception. Therefore, they have ways and means to trick the Islamic nation, first and foremost, through the economy. They have a good understanding of finances, and therefore…

When they were dispersed throughout the world in the days of Hitler… Incidentally, most of what is said about the massacre is exaggeration and lies. If only Hitler had finished them off, thus relieving humanity of them. But Hitler was more merciful than they are themselves. They exploited this minor incident in order to extort the world. In short, their dispersal worldwide, their sense of being ostracized, and their feeling that they could not achieve anything without money led them to contemplate the economy.

They managed in the U.S. — and even beforehand, in Britain… The largest companies belonged to the Jews, so that back then, they would even lend money to Britain. They did the same thing in the U.S. Today, in the U.S., many of the largest corporations of all industries — such as the automobile, perfume, and airplane industries — belong to the Jews. They exploit the media. In short, their interest in the economy is clear and undisputed. They used the economy to buy loyalties and to achieve many of their goals.

They use sex against their opponents. The Jews are behind the greatest distributors of sexual products, because they think that this preoccupies the people. Thus, they can achieve their goals. Sex is the best bargaining chip they have. They use it against their opponents. They send them women in order to frame them, using sex. That [Tzipi] Livni, who ran for the premiership of the so-called Jewish state, said: “Yes, I used sex to achieve the goals of the Jewish state.”

Qaradawi: "The battle between us and the Jews is coming "¦ Such a battle is not driven by nationalistic causes or patriotic belonging; it is rather driven by religious incentives"
Iranian official on the Jews: "The U.S. is a tool in their hands. So far, they have not used the full [scope of] their sorcery against us."
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  1. says

    jews hate islam because it debunked their lies like jews’s superiority over other races, god’s command for the jews to commit genocide against non-jews ,god’s permission for jews to misappropriate properties of non-jews and above all corrupting the bible and changing abraham’s sacrifice from ishmail to isac. i am not supporting the hollocaust, but surely allah will punish the jews for evil doing right from this world and in the life hereafter they will be casted into hellfire.muslims have reasons to hate the jews because they have been ploting against islam. it is therefore an article of faith to denounce jews as promoters of evils and corruptions

  2. says

    Is Islam theology inherently anti-Semitic?

    We ex-Muslims living with Islam’s formal and informal death penalty for apostasy know that the cruel, hate-filed cult of Mohammedanism is inherently anti-Semitic.


    Muslims Hate Jews up to Their Bones!

    By ex-Muslim Syed Kamran Mirza

    First of all, it must be understood that traditional Muslims summarily hate all non-Muslims, period. However, they hate Jews more than anybody else on Earth. In Islam’s oral tradition, it is believed that killing one Jew is equal to the killing of fifty non-Jewish unbelievers. Every muslims traditionally learn from the mullahs and seniors”that they must hate Jews more than any other infidels. All Muslims (good or bad) do believe that Jews are the worst enemy of Muslims and they are advised to take cautions when dealing with Jews. In fact the Qur’an tells the Muslims that the Jews are their worst enemy (5:82).

    Remember when that American CBS reporter Lara Logan was brutally raped and her nipple bitten off in Cairo’s Tahrir square because the Muslims thought she was a Jew, although she was not actually a Jew? What it’s telling us? There is no question that every Muslim child is taught about the danger from Jews universally around the Muslims world. I never heard any Muslim who can deny that Muslims universally fear and hate Jews most, period.

    I do believe, Jews in the Middle East know it very well. But, Jews residing in the western world, especially Jews living in the USA do not quite understand how much Muslims hate them, and it is baffling to me that many Jews make excuses for the terrible behavior of Muslims. Many Jewish rabbis and Jewish leaders deliberately join their hands in support of the so called “Inter-faith” meeting which is nothing but Islamic Taqiyya only to fool the Jews.

    Perhaps Jews do not know how this special hatred for Jews is rooted in the Islamic theology and history. It alarms me to see Islamic jihad and draconian sharia advancing globally, and I can see more Jews as allies to them. By not taking a stand against Islamists, Jews are emboldening their agenda. I am writing this to wake up Jews who are under the delusion that Islam is a religion that is fundamentally friendly to them.

    This hatred has nothing to do with land claims about Israel, which are false claims made throughout the Muslim world. The Muslim hatred of Jews pre-dates the existence of the modern state of Israel by some 1400 years and is based on verses in the Qur’an and in the hadiths. From earliest childhood on, Muslim youngsters are brainwashed to believe that Jews are the worst enemy of Allah, with Christians, polytheists, and Hindus coming next. The rationale for this hatred is that everyone must accept Islam, since Muslims believe that it is superior to all other religions and Islam is the only true religion on Earth.

    When Muhammad was still weak, with only 75 to 100 followers, and was trying to convince the Jews they should accept him as the latest Biblical prophet, he lavished praise on them and reframed Biblical verses to flatter them. Thus, he chose Jerusalem as his qibla, the geographical direction to use when praying. Later, he changed it to Mecca because Jews did not respond to his religious claims, and he was furious with them.

    While trying to charm the Jews into accepting his new religion, Muhammed came out with sweet verses like this, showing acceptance of other religions:

    Surah 2.62 Surely those who are Jews, Christians, and Sabians, whoever believes in Allah and the last day and does good, they shall have their reward from their Lord, and there is no fear for them, nor shall they grieve.

    Jews should not be fooled by the peaceful verses Muhammed introduced at the beginning of his career in Mecca, when he was politically weak. As soon as he became stronger, he made statements of war, which canceled out (abrogated) the earlier verses.

    Islamic Supremacy:

    The belief in Islam’s supremacy originated from the Qur’an. Here is a sampling of verses from the Qur’an stating that Islam and Muslims are superior to all other religions and people, and that everyone must be forced to accept Islam.

    Surah 3:110- Ye are the best of peoples, evolved for mankind, enjoining what is right, forbidding what is wrong, and believing in Allah. If only the People of the Book [Christians and Jews] had faith, it were best for them: among them are some who have faith, but most of them are perverted transgressors.

    Surah 98:6- Verily, those who disbelieve (in the religion of Islâm, the Qur’ân and Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him)) from among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians) and Al-Mushrikûn will abide in the Fire of Hell. They are the worst of creatures.

    Surah 98:7- Verily, those who believe [in the Oneness of Allâh, and in His Messenger Muhammad (Peace be upon him)) including all obligations ordered by Islâm] and do righteous good deeds, they are the best of creatures.

    Surah 3:85- If anyone desires a religion other than Islam, it will never be accepted.

    Surah 9:5- Kill non-Muslims wherever you find them. Ambush, seize, and capture them. If they convert to Islam and pray and contribute to the cause of Islam, let them go.

    Surah 48:16- Non-Muslims must convert to Islam or they will be killed.

    The following verses from the Qur’an are specifically aimed at Jews. Since Jews were the first religious group to refuse conversion – the first Muslim failure – the rage against them is intense.

    Surah 5:60 …Those (Jews) who incurred the Curse of Allah and His Wrath, those He transformed into monkeys and swine, those who worshipped false deities.

    Surah 2:61 Abasement and humiliation were brought down upon them, [the Jews] and they became deserving of Allah’s wrath; this was so because they disbelieved in the communications of Allah and killed the prophets unjustly; this was so because they disobeyed and exceeded the limits.

    Surah 2:65-66 We said to the Jews who transgressed in the matter of the Sabbath: “Be ye apes, despised and rejected.”

    Surah 2:96 And verily, you will find them (the Jews) the greediest of mankind for life and (even greedier) than those who ascribe partners to Allah…

    Surah 4:161 Jews will suffer a painful chastisement because they lend money.

    Surah 5:12-13 Allah made a covenant with the children of Israel , ..But on account of their breaking their covenant We cursed them and made their hearts hard;… and you shall always discover treachery in them excepting a few of them;

    Surah 5:70 Jews called some of the messengers of God liars and some they slew

    Hadiths Calling For The Killing Of Jews (Hadiths are collections of the sayings and deeds of Muhammed and Sahih hadith indicates one that is pure and authentic and recognized by all Islamic scholars):

    Kill The Jew Behind The Stone:

    Sahih Bukhari, 4:52:177, narrated by Abu Huraira: Allah’s Apostle says, “The Jews will fight with you, and you will be given victory over them so that a stone will say, “O Muslim! There is a Jew behind me; kill him!’ [This story is important enough to Muslims to be noted several times in the hadiths of Sahih Muslim]

    Eradications of Jews from Arabia:

    Book 019, Number 4366, narrated by “Umar b. al-Khattib: He heard the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) say: “I will expel the Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula and will not leave any but Muslim.” [This single Sahih hadith tells everything about Islamic intolerance]

    The Assassinations of Jews, as noted in various hadiths:

    Once Muhammed realized he could not cajole or force Jews to convert, he decided to annihilate all Jewish tribes from the vicinity of Medina. He then started a systematic elimination of most of the Jewish leaders and intellectuals who were resisting his jihad or who were obstructing his plan of converting everybody to Islam. Below is the list of assassinated Jewish leaders and intellectuals:

    1) Ibn Sunayna, a Jewish man who was murdered simply because he was a Jew.

    2) Abu Afak, a 120-year-old Jewish poet, murdered while he slept.

    3) Asma Marwan, mother of 5 children, murdered while she slept, (described below in a sahih Hadith).

    4) A slave women, mother of two children, murdered while she slept.

    5) A one-eyed shepherd, murdered while he slept.

    6) A very old woman, literally ripped in half by Muslims who captured her on a raid.

    7) A slave girl, who was murdered because she poked fun at Muhammad.

    8) Abdullah bin Ubayy who was killed by a disciple whom the Prophet permitted to tell a lie (“can I say something untrue, O Prophet?”….”Yes, you may say that for Allah’s cause”) to win his (Ubayy) confidence to become a friend before killing him.

    9) Ka’ab bin Ashraf a prominent Jewish leader in Medina who was killed by deceptive technique, (described below).

    Many more people who suffered a similar fate can be added here. I choose not to list them here because of space limitations. Sacred writings telling how the Prophet Muhammad eliminated Jews from the vicinity of Medina in his early raids. I have included only a few below:

    The Massacre of Banu Qurayza, a Jewish tribe:

    According to the “Sirat-a-Rasul” by Ibn Ishaq [1], the most famous and earliest written biography of Prophet Muhammad, page 464, the story goes as follows: After the Battle of the Ditch, when the coalition force of Quraish left the battle field, prophet Muhammad attacked the last of the large Jewish tribes of Medina, the Banu Qurayza. The Banu Qurayza Jewish tribe was attacked for not supporting prophet Muhammad when the Quraisha’s coalition force from Mecca attacked Medina (the Battle of the Trench) to take revenge for Muhammad’s repeated highway attacks on Quraish business caravans. After the withdrawal of the coalition force the Jews were isolated. Hazrat Ali (one of the Muhammad’s four best disciples) swore that he would never stop until he either stormed their garrisons or was killed.

    After a continuous siege of 25 days, the Qurayza Jews surrendered to Prophet Muhammad unconditionally. Muhammad ordered that the men be handcuffed, while the women and children were isolated in confinement. Then the apostle went out to the market of Medina (which is still its market today) and dug trenches in it. Then he sent for them and struck off their heads in those trenches as they were brought out to him in batches. This went on until the apostle made an end of them. Among them was the enemy of Allah, Huyayy b. Akhtab and Ka`b b. Asad, their chief, and they were brought with their hands bound to their neck by a rope. [ Ibn Ishaq, pp. 462-64; Tabari vol. 8, p. 34].

    The Blood Money System in Islamic Sharia Shows Contempt for Jews:

    As per Islamic Sharia, there is a concept of “blood money” and this draconian compensatory justice system is still practiced in Saudi Arabia (According to the Wall Street Journal, April 9, 2002). Under this system, if a person has been killed or caused to die by another, the latter has to pay “blood money” or compensation, as follows:

    100,000 riyals if the victim is a Muslim man

    50,000 riyals if a Muslim woman

    50,000 riyals if a Christian man

    25,000 riyals if a Christian woman

    6,666 riyals if a Hindu (or idolaters) man

    3,333 riyals if a Hindu (or idolaters) woman

    That is, a Muslim man’s life is worth 33 times that of a Hindu woman.

    Jews are not eligible for blood money compensation: Sharia is silent on the blood money for a Jew. The above authentic blood money chart practicing in Saudi Arabia (The cradle of Islam) has not included Jews; although, it has included all other most famous organized religions of the world. Reason is very clear; Jews do not deserve any blood money. Because, Jews are the arch enemies of Allah. Actually, it is negative blood money. That is, if any Muslim kills a Jew, the killer gets reward in this world and in the hereafter. Every time, whenever we read Palestinian kills a Jew”what do we read? The entire Muslim ummah praises the killer (muslim killer I mean). The Palestinian authority even rewards the killer. If the Muslim killer kills a Jewish child, he receives more accolades!

    More at:

  3. says

    Hello all of you Jews and Christians out there!

    Please, for your own good and for the sake of we ex-Muslims, drop the “interfaith dialogue” with Muslims.

    Nothing but harm can come from it. And here is why:

    The Qur’an and Sunnah, which must be believed upon pain of death by all orthodox Muslims, say authoritatively, unequivocally, that your religions, meaning Judaism and Christianity, are essentially bunk, obsolete, invalid.

    Muslims are trapped in a diabolical cult of death with a handful of sugar thrown into the mix to trick both you and them into believing it. And many if not most of them are intentionally lying to you about it, as Islamic theology gives them permission to do so.

    Here, see for yourself. Muslims will never believe what you believe. They are just trying to use you to promote and expand Islam.

    Qur’an 5:14
    And from those who say, “We are Christians” We took their covenant; but they forgot a portion of that of which they were reminded. So We caused among them animosity and hatred until the Day of Resurrection. And Allah is going to inform them about what they used to do.

    O People of the Scripture, there has come to you Our Messenger (Muhammad) making clear to you much of what you used to conceal of the Scripture and overlooking much. There has come to you from Allah a light and a clear Book (the Qur’an).

    They have certainly disbelieved who say that Allah is Christ, the son of Mary. Say, “Then who could prevent Allah at all if He had intended to destroy Christ, the son of Mary, or his mother or everyone on the earth?” And to Allah belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth and whatever is between them. He creates what He wills, and Allah is over all things competent.

    Indeed, the penalty for those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and strive upon earth [to cause] corruption is none but that they be killed or crucified or that their hands and feet be cut off from opposite sides or that they be exiled from the land. That is for them a disgrace in this world; and for them in the Hereafter is a great punishment.

    [As for] the thief, the male and the female, amputate their hands in recompense for what they committed as a deterrent [punishment] from Allah . And Allah is Exalted in Might and Wise.

    O Messenger, let them not grieve you who hasten into disbelief of those who say, “We believe” with their mouths, but their hearts believe not, and from among the Jews. [They are] avid listeners to falsehood, listening to another people who have not come to you. They distort words beyond their [proper] usages, saying “If you are given this, take it; but if you are not given it, then beware.” But he for whom Allah intends fitnah – never will you possess [power to do] for him a thing against Allah . Those are the ones for whom Allah does not intend to purify their hearts. For them in this world is disgrace, and for them in the Hereafter is a great punishment.

    O you who have believed, do not take the Jews and the Christians as allies. They are [in fact] allies of one another. And whoever is an ally to them among you – then indeed, he is [one] of them. Indeed, Allah guides not the wrongdoing people.

    They have certainly disbelieved who say, ” Allah is the Messiah, the son of Mary” while the Messiah has said, “O Children of Israel, worship Allah , my Lord and your Lord.” Indeed, he who associates others with Allah – Allah has forbidden him Paradise, and his refuge is the Fire. And there are not for the wrongdoers any helpers.

    They have certainly disbelieved who say, ” Allah is the third of three.” And there is no god except one God. And if they do not desist from what they are saying, there will surely afflict the disbelievers among them a painful punishment.

    And if they had believed in Allah and the Prophet and in what was revealed to him, they would not have taken them as allies; but many of them are defiantly disobedient.

    You will surely find the most intense of the people in animosity toward the believers [to be] the Jews and those who associate others with Allah ; and you will find the nearest of them in affection to the believers those who say, “We are Christians.” That is because among them are priests and monks and because they are not arrogant.

    But those who disbelieved and denied Our revelations – they are the companions of Hellfire.

  4. says

    They use sex against their opponents.

    There are a lot of porn fans that are thankful for that, particularly in Pakistan…

  5. says

    It’s time to unleash Sasha Baron Cohen and some of the Muslim comics like Omar Regan on this passel of clerical boobs for a decade-long roast of ultra-Muslim theocracy!

  6. says

    The Jews this, blah, blah, the Jews that, blah, blah….

    Suppose Hitler had succeeded in eliminating the Jews. All muzz countries would still be the backward, miserable, dirty, chaotic shiteholes they are today. Maybe even worse, if that’s possible, because they wouldn’t have had the benefit of many Jewish contributions to the world in technology, medicine, science, etc.

    They hate the Jews because they are blind and enraged with jealousy and because they are the dregs of the world and their allah is not doing a thing to lift them out of it.

  7. says

    Western countries would fire someone who made such statements, but this important organization shows its values of bigotry, barbarism and genocide by not doing so.

  8. says

    More lunatic drivel from another cloth-head who may as well be speaking about the Muslims as they fit the descriptions of what he is talking about more than the Jews do.
    If I’m honest, I’m getting a bit tired of it all now. I’ve heard this sewer-talk so many times that it’s turning into a monotonous cliche.
    I really long for the day when Islam is dead and buried and these demon-possessed Mullahs, Imams, Sheikhs, Ayatollahs, or whatever they call themselves, have all been locked up, shot dead or fired into outer space.

  9. says

    CGW, no, of course I don’t believe this comic standoff smackdown shitstorm will happen though it would be helpful if it did! This is a (hash) pipe dream… It’s interesting though that, so far, I don’t believe there’s been a fatwah issued against Sasha Baron Cohen. What’s up w/that oversight? I’ve got more than my fair share of Molly Norris psychology though if it’s not obvious by now. Let me be frank, I’m not going to mollycoddle JWers anymore on what my perspective is. Clear?

    (Seattle Weekly) Norris views the situation with her customary sense of the world’s complexity, and absurdity. When FBI agents, on a recent visit, instructed her to always keep watch for anyone following her, she joked, “Well, at least it’ll keep me from being so self-involved!” It was, she says, the first time the agents managed a smile.

  10. says

    *shudder* — for an irretrievable instant, my optic nerves physiologically outran my brain (for those of you who believe our minds include, but are more than, our brain), and before I knew it, in my excessively efficient speed-reading, I could not help actually reading some Americana before my mind had a chance to recoil and abort.

  11. says

    From the camel’s mouth:

    “They butchered Yahya and Zakariya, and tried to kill the Prophet Muhammad.”

    I’m pretty sure that “Yahya” refers to John the Baptist (like “Issa”, “Musa” and “Ibrahim” et al. plagiarized by Muslims through their theological latrociny), whose slaying (beheading by Herod) this Muslim cleric from the International Union of Muslim Scholars is decrying as evidence of the perfidy of Jews.

    Time for some interfaith outreach among Baptists and Muslims, eh?

  12. says




    AMERICANA who also posts as MUXLIM suddenly appeared here on JW in the last several weeks. I strongly believe *IT* to be a paid troll, *Paid* for each post IT makes. I also believe IT is a Muslim, or Muslim sympathizer, or at least an infiltrator to sow seeds of dissent, distraction and division. I have observed IT engage and enrage many regular posters here, in a short period of time, with banal counter-intuitive arguments. IT has annoyed “Champ”, “George”, “Miriam Rove” and many others. In an argument with Champ IT claimed to be a “Female”, which is why I call “IT” IT as IT’s writing style is distinctly masculine in nature.

    It is remarkable the amount of drivel IT has produced in a few short weeks and the number of posters IT has offended; and the actual number of IT’s posts is far beyond normal. IT claims to be from the Boston area but with “strong” British connections and British experience (now enhanced to include many international connections and influential family and other connections). IT is constantly morphing and Chameleon- like adopting and adapting to and with IT’s interactions here to become all things to all entities. The truth matters little to IT. IT salts its nonsense with half-truths and dis-information to elicit controversy, thus occasioning responses it can in turn, respond to in an ever-burgeoning morass of garbage. *BUT* IT is paid for each of these so the more we engage IT, the more it profits.

    IT tries to position itself as supporting the counter-jihad position but has a host of non-viable platforms, which clearly demonstrate a fundamental lack of understanding of the basic tenets of Islam or it is just deliberate obfuscation. IT’s basic argument is that Islam needs to self-reform and establish an international forum of “moderate” Mullahs to call for reform. Fat chance that. The quintessential non-starter.

    IT writes long puerile sections while trying to pretend IT is in agreement. IT”s intent is to draw posters into endless debate about issues that have no traction thus diminishing the value and information in the article thread. All Classic communist agitate/propaganda techniques.

    Ignore IT.

    Don’t waste your time engaging IT in any way. Trolls are paid for EACH post. This is why they begin arguments. The more the merrier, from their perspective. If there is no engagement, they move on eventually. Persona is difficult to camouflage. I will keep an eye for additional new monikers.

    Click here for the profile, behaviour and tactics of a PAID TROLL.





  13. says

    … this passel of clerical boobs for a decade-long roast of ultra-Muslim theocracy!
    There is no such thing as and ultra Moslem, as with a Moderate Moslem (Unicorn) or a Moslem extremist or a radical Moslem or any of the other terms the media use, terms that at once both frame the debate and constrain it from addressing the real subject at hand, the question nobody in power is willing to face: the real identity of our enemy and the source cause of their emnity.

    There are no boobs, no ultras, no radicals and no extremists. These terms are used because we wish there were. There are only Moslems. We can’t face the idea that puts the lie to the question: radical and extreme in comparison to what?

  14. says

    Re: Tareq Hawwas and other Muslims who blame the Jews for the death of Muhammad:

    First see this:

    Quran 3:145 And no person can ever die except by Allah’s Leave and at an appointed term. And whoever desires a reward in (this) world, We shall give him of it; and whoever desires a reward in the Hereafter, We shall give him thereof. And We shall reward the grateful.

    Another translation:
    Quran 3:145 And a soul will not die but with the permission of Allah the term is fixed; and whoever desires the reward of this world, I shall give him of it, and whoever desires the reward of the hereafter I shall give him of it, and I will reward the grateful.

    That’s pretty clear, and all the translations I’ve seen are in agreement: No one can die except by Allah’s permission (or Allah’s “leave,” as some older translations have it). Indeed, it would be wildly heretical for any Muslim to suggest that a death occurred without Allah’s permission.

    Then see this:

    In Islamic conception, it was Allah who controlled every detail of the death of Muhammad.

  15. says

    Gosh, Wellington, my use of the term ‘mollycoddle’ is just a pun. Unless, unless, of course maybe I used it because I am Molly? And I’m here because I’m so pissed off I’ve had to come up w/another identity and another profession. Where else to vent but here on JW where I’m lauded for a single Big Mo cartoon? It’s not like I qualify as Salman Rushie and really took Islam to task. I’m just sort of an American ditz who doesn’t know enough about Islam to come up w/a better end run around this whole drawing Mo business. But that El Stupomundo Mistaktivo of mine is lauded on Jihad Watch ‘cuz it’s so in their face!!!

  16. says

    What asinine people. These have to be the most wicked people on the planet. The Jewish people have never hurt anyone and if they ever held anyone as a prisoner they treated them with medical help if they needed it. And with as much dignity you could give a prisoner. I read a story of a man held by the Jews and he was in someway related to hamas, he could not get over how well they treated him. They were always polite to him, gave him food to eat, you are blessed because of the Jewish people. And you want them dead, that is why you are wicked and vile people.

  17. says

    The Qur’an and Sunnah, which must be believed upon pain of death by all orthodox Muslims…

    What’s an orthodox Moslem? Does nobody listen to the Ayatollah Ali Khamenei? A Moslem is a Moslem, plain and simple. Like being pregnant or dead, you either is or you ain’t. Point.

    The International Union of Muslim Scholars have certainly earned their pompous name with this one. And I congratulate them on the refreshing burst of honesty. Sure, snuffing out all the Jews woulda meant going into America to finish off the blood bath, but that’s the cost of doing Islam business.

    Tareq Hawwas is to be commended on his correct reading of the Holy Ko-Ran. Kudso to you, Tareq. You is, in other words, you ain’t ain’t. Keep up the good work with your explication of the scriptures.

  18. says

    Do you really think they’ll agree to place themselves in such a dangerous position, in effect signing their own death warrants? Have you read traeh’s long-yet-incomplete list of those who’ve self-censored? Do you know who Molly Norris is? Google her if you don’t.

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    Well, Ll, I’m sure like me you’re distressed that we’re not going to be mollycoddled anymore by Americana. No siree. Now he/she/it is going to take the metaphorical gloves off and really let us have it. Oh the humanity!

  20. says

    I wanted to present one variation to your most excellent post, concerning Muhammad and the Jews.

    Sam Solomon, a professor Shari’a law for fifteen years before converting to Christianity, wrote a book called “Al-Hijra” (The Islamic Doctrine of Immigration) which details the first migration, to Medina, as the model of all subsequent Muslim migration. This version of the story is much more insidious than the one you present,of Muhammad trying to convince the Jews to follow him, and then his anger at their rejection…

    Muhammad spent two years preparing for the Hijra to Yathrib which he renamed “City of the Prophet.” Yathrib had been established by Jews and was distinctly Jewish but two Arab tribes, the Aws and Khazraj sought to claim the city as well, Yathrib in addition had grievances against the Quraish in Mecca (Muhammad had appealed to 15 Arab tribes for protection and none would have him, due to ties with Quraish). In 621 AD some 12 men (6 from the Aws and 6 from the Khazraj made the first pledge to Muhammad, the Pledge of Aqaba.
    In 622AD some 75 more came. Meanwhile key followers of Muhammad went to Yathrib to gain new converts and study the power structures of the city.

    “Muhammad increasingly began to recite favorable revelations towards the Jews. This is clear from the Qur’an because all the pro-Jewish revelations are dated to this period. The more Muhammad began to plan his migration, the stronger his ‘revelations’ favorable to the Jews became. These revelations almost convinced the Jews that they had nothing to fear…(that)even though he was coming at the invitation of the Aws & Khazraj unlike his hosts he believed in their scriptures (the Torah & Psalms)…

    “Muda’rat is a Sunni doctrine of deception. It is also another name for takiyya. This deceptive behavior can be practiced with anybody when necessary…Muhammad practiced takiyya by claiming new revelations all in the favor of the Jews. He said that they are the chosen people of Allah..and that he was in the line of those prophets now sent to the Arabian people. But while claiming those revelations (his) intentions were very different. This is shown by the content of his pact with the Aws and the Khazraj. For it was radically opposite…

    “Ibn Ishaq reports in his Sira that the pledge of loyalty made by the 75 men was an extraordinary pledge. It was not a religious pledge of loyalty for preaching and proclaiming Muhammad’s message but it was a military pact to fight, kill or subdue the ‘red and black’ as Muhammad stated it, with red meaning the Jews and black meaning the Quraish…this alliance was an alliance of War.

    “Abu Haitham interjected saying ‘O apostle of Allah, between us and the Jews are ropes (ties) and we are about to cut those…”
    Muhammad smiled and said ‘Blood, blood destruction, destruction.’ This meant a declaration of war and killing and destruction. In other words, Muhammad was saying, behold I have settled the fate of the Jews. They are going to be annihilated and so will I get rid of the Quraish. The old order will be fully done away with… “I am of you and you are of me, I will fight (war) with those that you are (fighting) in war with, and I will make peace with those you make peace with” (said Muhammad).

    “Muhammad had spelled out his decision which sealed and settled the fate of the Jews long before he ever reached Yathrib. However, when he first arrived in Yathrib, he made a public pretense of getting close to the Jews and befriending them, praying in the direction of Jerusalem, and fasting with them, he even included them in his first Charter of Medina…

    “Muhammad also managed to introduce two doctrines that made no sense: the doctrine of abrogation and the doctrine of takiyya/muda’rat. Through these doctrines, he managed to move his followers from one position to another, from the Jews being a chosen people and the people of the book to now being the worshipers of a calf, disobedient to Moses. Thus the Jews were now in enmity with Allah. So even today, all Jews are considered the same as their predecessors. They are enemies of Allah and of his messenger and therefore personal enemies of the believers too. The Muslim mindset is that Jews must be fought against and nothing less than a total annihilation of them will do.”

  21. says

    CGW, what’s being telegraphed between the lines is the insinuation that a) there are Muslim comics out there (and hence, see guys, lots of harmless normal moderately jocular Muslims); and that b) they would use their comedy to lampoon Islam — when in fact, the few Muslim comics that exist are playing a sly game whereby, at best, they reinforce the TMOE meme (“Tiny Minority of Extremists”) while most of the time studiously avoiding anything remotely anti-Islamic whilst exploiting their Western Infidel audience’s own penchant for ridicule, satire and mockery of their own West and Western institutions and Western proclivity toward “Islamophobia”.

    Just as there are no Muslim academics who would dare take their own Islamic civilization (using that term loosely) to task as profoundly and searchingly and corrosively as have thousands of Western scholars, writers and artists their own West (including raking Judaeo-Christianity over the coals) over the centuries; so too, there are no Mohammedan Lenny Bruces, George Carlins, Mort Sahls, Dick Gregorys, Jon Stewarts, Janeane Garofalos, Lewis Blacks, Rosie O’Donnells, Craig Fergusons, Al Frankens, Bill Mahers, Monty Pythons, Eddie Izzards, Patton Oswalts, Howard Sterns, Sarah Silvermans, Penns & Tellers, Smothers Brothers, etc. — not to mention the writers of the wildly popular and successful animated series The Simpsons, South Park, and Family Guy — all three of which for years have thoroughly excoriated and reamed up the ass with satire and mockery everything sacred to Americans and Christians.

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    “There are no boobs, no ultras, no radicals and no extremists. These terms are used because we wish there were. There are only Moslems. We can’t face the idea that puts the lie to the question: radical and extreme in comparison to what?”

    I quite agree with you, Holy Prophet APF. Unfortunately, purveyors who traffick in the diversity of terms (yea, a positive rainbow if not tapestry) by which to parse Mohammedans with a multitude of distinctions cleverly calculated to undermine anything dangerously concerted about them have a wealth of circumstantial and superficial data to feast on and regurgitate, not to mention a surrounding mainstream conformity that reinforces this mass hypnosis in the West that still cannot see the Camel in the Room.

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    Correctomundo, my friend. A blaring testament to how much mayhem just one person can create in an otherwise largely intelligent and dedicated neighborhood. A major turnoff…


  24. says

    ”. Now he/she/it is going to take the metaphorical gloves off and really let us have it”

    Yep. We’re all shaking in our boots.