Saudi Arabia warned the U.S. in writing about the Boston jihad bomber in 2012

UPDATE: The Saudis now deny that they tipped off U.S. officials — the Daily Mail link below now leads to an updated story denying the one excerpted in this post. So add this to yet another of the murky, contradictory elements of the story of the Boston Marathon jihad bombing. Will we ever know the whole truth? Only if it isn’t too politically disadvantageous to Obama and the Democrats.

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They received the warning but did nothing, because it had to do with Islamic jihad, and Obama’s FBI is forbidden to study Islamic jihad. This is because the Obama Administration in 2011 mandated the scrubbing of counter-terror training materials of the truth about Islam and jihad. It is the terror threat that dare not speak its name. Those who called for counterterror training materials to be scrubbed of truthful information about jihad are responsible for this, and have blood on their hands; they include the Hamas-linked Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), which mounted a huge campaign in 2010 to have me dropped as a trainer of FBI agents. Nor was that campaign personal: they mounted similar campaigns against any trainers and training materials that told the truth about Islam and jihad. Others responsible for the politically correct scrubbing of counterterror training materials of any mention of Islam or jihad include hard-Left pseudo-journalist Spencer Ackerman, who published a series of “exposes” of “Islamophobic” counterterror training; Farhana Khera of Muslim Advocates, who wrote a letter to Obama’s then-chief counterterrorism adviser and current CIA director, John Brennan, demanding that this material be removed. Brennan, who readily acquiesced to this demand, also bears responsibility, as does Salam al-Marayati of the Muslim Public Affairs Council, who piled on in the mainstream media. They got what they wanted: now FBI agents are woefully ill-equipped to deal with the Islamic jihad threat, which they largely must pretend does not even exist.

“EXCLUSIVE: Saudi Arabia ‘warned the United States IN WRITING about Boston Bomber Tamerlan Tsarnaev in 2012,'” from the Daily Mail, April 30 (thanks to all who sent this in):

The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia sent a written warning about accused Boston Marathon bomber Tamerlan Tsarnaev to the U.S. Department of Homeland Security in 2012, long before pressure-cooker blasts killed three and injured hundreds, according to a senior Saudi government official with direct knowledge of the document.

The Saudi warning, the official told MailOnline, was separate from the multiple red flags raised by Russian intelligence in 2011, and was based on human intelligence developed independently in Yemen.

Citing security concerns, the Saudi government also denied an entry visa to the elder Tsarnaev brother in December 2011, when he hoped to make a pilgrimage to Mecca, the source said. Tsarnaev’s plans to visit Saudi Arabia have not been previously disclosed.

The Saudis’ warning to the U.S. government was also shared with the British government. ‘It was very specific” and warned that ‘something was going to happen in a major U.S. city,’ the Saudi official said during an extensive interview.

It ‘did name Tamerlan specifically,’ he added. The ‘government-to-government’ letter, which he said was sent to the Department of Homeland Security at the highest level, did not name Boston or suggest a date for his planned attack.

If true, the account will produce added pressure on the Homeland Security department and the White House to explain their collective inaction after similar warnings were offered about Tsarnaev by the Russian government.

A DHS official denied, however, that the agency received any such warning from Saudi intelligence about Tamerlan Tsarnaev.

‘DHS has no knowledge of any communication from the Saudi government regarding information on the suspects in the Boston Marathon Bombing prior to the attack,’ MailOnline learned from one Homeland Security official who declined to be named in this report.

The White House took a similar view. ‘We and other relevant U.S. government agencies have no record of such a letter being received,’ said Caitlin Hayden, a spokesperson for the president’s National Security Council.

The letter likely came to DHS via the Saudi Ministry of Interior, the agency tasked with protecting the Saudi kingdom’s homeland.

A Homeland Security official confirmed Tuesday evening on the condition of anonymity that the 2012 letter exists, saying he had heard of the Saudi communication before MailOnline inquired about it.

An aide to a Republican member of the House Homeland Security Committee speculated Tuesday about why the Obama administration contradicted the knowledgeable Saudi official.

“˜It is possible the Department of Homeland Security received the information from the Saudi government but never passed it on to the White House,” the GOP staffer said. ‘Communication between DHS and the White House’s national security apparatus isn’t always what it should be.”

‘I can easily see it happening where one hand didn’t know what the other was doing because of a turf war.’

‘Just like the different agencies in the Boston JTTF [Joint Terrorism Task Force] want credit for breaking the Tsarnaev case,’ the aide added, ‘they sometimes jealously guard the very intel they should be sharing the most freely. Sometimes it makes no sense at all.’

House Homeland Security Committee chairman Mike McCaul plans to announce on Wednesday an investigative hearing to probe what U.S. intelligence knew prior to the Boston attacks, two senior Republican sources told MailOnline.

Separately, President Obama announced Tuesday that the U.S. government will launch a wide-ranging inquiry into the sharing of information among the Federal Bureau of Investigation, the Department of Homeland Security and other intelligence and law-enforcement agencies of the federal government.

‘We want to leave no stone unturned,’ the president said in a rare White House press conference….

Yeah, sure.

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  1. says

    I find it interesting that Saudi Arabia (!) would warn the US and also deny Tamerlan entry when he hoped to make his Mecca pilgrimage. Saudi Arabia is one of the staunchest Islamic countries, has the sword of Islam as its national flag for crying out loud, and was home to most of the 9/11 hijackers. And this was a government to government correspondence.. Thought this was an enemy. Also, with such knowledge, why would they deny a most pious Muslim in Tamerlan the pilgrimage to Mecca?

  2. says

    Sophia —- The Saudis, specifically the Saudi ruling family, are terrified about encouraging extremist Islamists within their borders. It’s sort of fine if they’re extremist Islamists that do what they will in defense of Islam outside their country’s borders, but they fear a religious insurgency from within. The Saudis recognize a double=edged sword when they see one! Islamist extremism is the Damocles’ sword that will take down infidel and impious/aspostate Muslim alike! That’s why Osama bin Laden was exiled after he’d formed al Qaeda and had begun to preach against various aspects of the Saudi regime. (Granted, his exile initially was self-exile rather than imposed by the Saudis.) Despite being a member of one of Saudi Arabia’s top families (his father clawed his way up in construction, eventually even getting the contract to RESTORE MECCA of all places!!!, his dad didn’t have respectable religious lineage like the ibn Saud family), Osama was too powerful of an Islamist to remain inside Saudi Arabia railing against how the Princes Ibn Saud were corrupt and didn’t represent the highest aims of Islam.

    Read both of the following links. It will better show how Wahhabism and the ibn Saud family intersect in Saudi as well as how bin Laden is perceived.
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    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/binladen/who/family.html

    Likewise, the Saudi authorities’ decision to issue an arrest warrant for Osama bin Laden on 16 May 1993 does not threaten to affect the relationship between the bin Ladens and the royal family. Osama, one of Mohammed’s youngest son, has been known for years for his fundamentalist activities. …The arrest warrant was issued both because of his support for fundamentalist groups involved in terrorist operations in Algeria and Egypt and his ties with upstart religious circles that tried to establish an independent human rights organization in Saudi Arabia at the beginning of May.
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    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/saudi/analyses/wahhabism.html
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    I wonder if it will turn out that this “likely jihadist” warning from the Saudis wasn’t collated w/the Russian warning in his master file?

  3. says

    Thank you for the insights! Classicus, I think you brought up some great points. The double game indeed. Shows we have to know as much as possible and can’t take their words or actions at face value without knowing the whole picture. There’s probably more to this story..

  4. says

    The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia sent a written warning about accused Boston Marathon bomber Tamerlan Tsarnaev to the U.S. Department of Homeland Security in 2012, long before pressure-cooker blasts killed three and injured hundreds, according to a senior Saudi government official with direct knowledge of the document.

    Saudi Arabia, our ally. Think about that. The good King to whom Prez Barack Hussein publicly bowed stood approvingly by as his 2,200 princes funded Osama bin Laden’s attack on America, which came to fruition on September 11, 2001.

    Now they’re sending us warnings about mujahidin who would do harm to us. Maybe the definition of an ally is when they feel bad about supporting a big mass murder on us, so they give us notice to avert a small mass murder.

    But no renunciation of jihad war terror is forthcoming from our ally, for to do that would be to renounce Islam itself.

  5. says

    Though one wants to see verification of this claim by the Saudis, it would be another indication that everyone was on to this would-be jihadist except the deliberately dumbed-down U.S. intelligence services.

    From the article:
    “The Saudi official speculated that Tsarnaev’s residence in the United States might have made it more difficult for him to gain entry into the kingdom.

    ‘U.S.-based Muslims who become radicalized and want to visit Mecca create an unusual problem,’ he said, compelling the Saudi government ‘to carefully examine applications.’

    (the unusual problem is if they commit terrorism back in the U.S. and can be linked to the Saudis in any way. The Saudis talking about a Muslim becoming “radicalized” is rich. They do know their audience, don’t they…)

    ‘This is the fourth time the Saudi Arabian government has given the U.S. specific intel’ about a possible terror plot, the official said, citing prior warnings about Richard Reid, the so-called shoe bomber who repeatedly tried to light a fuse in his shoe to bring down American Airlines flight 63 bound for Miami in December 2001.

    He also cited the 300-gram ‘ink-cartridge bombs’ planted on two cargo planes headed for the United States from Yemen in October 2010. Those explosives were intercepted in Dubai, and at an East Midlands airport in Great Britain’.

    (Message: Saudi Arabia as a staunch ally in the War on Terror aka “radicalism’ not the financial and ideological source of said “radicalism.”)

    The Saudis’ Yemen-based sources, he explained, said militants referred to Tamerlan dismissively as “the volunteer.’

    ‘He was a gung-ho, self motivated jihadi who wasn’t tasked by a larger group,’ he said.

    ‘There is no reason for anyone in Afghanistan to have in his thinking a scenario like this,’ the official added, referring to pressure-cooker bombs at the Boston Marathon. ‘He took the initiative. That’s why they call him “the volunteer.”

    ‘The Boston thing is beneath them,’ he said of al Qaeda. “They don’t think like this. This is like a firecracker to them. They want something big.’

    (and somehow the Saudis were able to warn about specific bombing-threats to American cities based on Tamerlane’s postings…which we had not a clue about? and why were they dismissive of Tamerlane in Yemen for wanting to participate in jihad– ‘gung ho’ and ‘self motivated’ are now a bad thing? and is it true al Qaeda only thinks so much bigger that this is ‘beneath them’? But weren’t acts like this–“lone wolf jihad”– and bombs like this exactly what al Qaeda in Inspire Magazine just called for? There is either more here or less than meets the eye but nothing from “a senior Saudi official” should be taken at face value)

  6. says

    Tamerlan was the wrong kind of Muslim that listed a YouTube video with Shia eschatology with their Mahdi running the end times scenario.

  7. says

    ”’DHS has no knowledge of any communication from the Saudi government regarding information on the suspects in the Boston Marathon Bombing prior to the attack,’ MailOnline learned from one Homeland Security official who declined to be named in this report.”

    Who to believe ?

    Saudi Arabia may well be lying, in order to embarrass the DHS further.

    Why would the DHS lie, **if** the Saudis had actually issued such a warning ? To cover up their own incompetency.

    And the Saudi Arabian who was supposed to be deported ? Michelle Obama’s visit to him ? The meeting with the Saudis that was suddenly closed to the press ?

    Some very, very disturbing questions here, and with even more disturbing possible answers.

  8. says

    Saudi Arabia created this modern, supremacist version of Islam that we may conveniently call ‘jihadism’…the ideology of using terror to impose a global caliphate.

    However, Saudis aren’t ‘islamic enough’ to suit the terrorists that they created with their own teachings.

    Ironically, the disciples of the Saudis want to murder their creators. Jihad isn’t even good for Saudi Arabia that teaches it. Jihad is inconvenient to every government and a real threat to the lives of Saudi leaders.

  9. says

    Hi mortimer, you said,

    Saudi Arabia created this modern, supremacist version of Islam that we may conveniently call ‘jihadism’…the ideology of using terror to impose a global caliphate.

    Beg to differ on that. Islam has been supremacist and jihadist at least since the Islamic core texts emerged over a thousand years ago.

    Muhammad says the earth belongs to Muhammad and Allah, warns the Jews to accept Islam if they wish to be safe, and says he wants to deport them:

    In Sahih Muslim, a canonical hadith collection:

    Book 019, Number 4363:

    It has been narrated on the authority of Abu Huraira [a companion of Muhammad] who said: We were (sitting) in the mosque when the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) came to us and said: (Let us) go to the Jews. We went out with him until we came to them. The Messenger of Allah [Muhammad] (may peace be upon him) stood up and called out to them (saying):
    O ye assembly of Jews, accept Islam (and) you will be safe.

    They said: Abu’l-Qasim [Muhammad was sometimes called Abu’l-Qasim, meaning “father of Qasim,” Qasim being Muhammad’s son], you have communicated (God’s Message to us). The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said:

    I want this (i. e. you should admit that God’s Message has been communicated to you), accept Islam and you would be safe.

    They said: Abu’l-Qasim, you have communicated (Allah’s Message). The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: I want this… – He said to them (the same words) the third time (and on getting the same reply) he [Muhammad] added:

    You should know that the earth belongs to Allah and His Apostle, and I wish that I should expel you from this land. Those of you who have any property with them should sell it, otherwise they should know that the earth belongs to Allah and His Apostle (and they may have to go away leaving everything behind).

  10. says

    It’s worth questioning if this “alert” from our Saudi “allies” has had anything to do with busy-busy-Janet Napolitano’s deal with the speedy passport handling at our airports for Saudi nationals.

    We’re in a helluva mess right now.

  11. says

    Thought this was an enemy. Also, with such knowledge, why would they deny a most pious Muslim in Tamerlan the pilgrimage to Mecca?

    You’re right to wonder, especially when on 9/11/2001 most of the terrorists were Saudis. I suppose there are a few possible answers; but one would be that the Saudis probably knew that Tsarnaev was on the terror radar elsewhere. They wouldn’t want him tied to Saudi Arabia. It would upset the stealth jihad they have been conducting against the US. Recall that after the 9/11 attacks, President Bush said to those governments who had wavering support for the United States, “You’re either with us or you’re against us.” That was directed in part at the Saudis, who have long engaged in a double game – saying on thing in public and saying and supporting something else out of plain view. A few public figures were blunt enough to say so at the time. We just haven’t done very much about it.

  12. says

    As I scanned these comments I noticed that someone mentioned Saudi Arabia is now in denial of such a warning.

    Something else bothers me about this. We learned about the Russian warning over a week ago. The Saudi’s either sat on this when things didn’t look so good for them with initial hours post Boston marathon bombing or . . .is it possible they are pushing for further protections which this administration is experiencing increasing difficulty providing. Throwing this ‘warning’ out there as a rumor and then retracting — implies strong arm politics.

    Perhaps it has something to do with ‘person-of-interest #1’ . Questions about his potential involvement haven’t dissipated. Napolitano’s political tap dance over ‘person-of-interst #1 his on again/off again deportation and prior file classifications — as well as Michelle Obama’s hospital visit cast a great deal of suspicion and drew the attention of talk radio hosts.

    Something stinks in this administration and it’s smells of j-i-h-a-d.

  13. says

    “I find it interesting that Saudi Arabia (!) would warn the US and also deny Tamerlan entry when he hoped to make his Mecca pilgrimage. Saudi Arabia is one of the staunchest Islamic countries, has the sword of Islam as its national flag for crying out loud, and was home to most of the 9/11 hijackers. And this was a government to government correspondence.. Thought this was an enemy. Also, with such knowledge, why would they deny a most pious Muslim in Tamerlan the pilgrimage to Mecca?”

    You may not realize the full depth of the oozing, pulsating depth of Islamic pathology, whereby Muslims are constantly paranoid of each other when they are not killing each other in one way or another or planning to. Islamic purists trying to overthrow a regime of Islamic purism so pure, they behead witches after Friday mosque sermons in public before pious Muslim crowds.

    In 1979, for example, a cell of Muslims tried to take over the Black Rock, probably as a beachhead for a premature Arab Spring before its time; and the Saudi Arabian government had to enlist the help of French paratroopers to help them deal with these terrorists.

    Bin Laden and others have been known to have had designs on overthrowing the monarchy there, because of its “sacrilege” of its dealings with the Great Satan (America) and other Kuffar of the West.

    Every monarch, despot, emir, sultan, “President” of every Muslim country has to watch his back, lest the monsters bred by the same Mohammedanism he too supports may stab him in the back. Islam has been this way since day one, in the 7th century. Its fanaticism is so diseased, it eats at itself from within as much as it directs murderous hatred outward at the Other.

    Please, stop trying to understand Muslims according to the sense of the rest of humanity.

  14. says

    The only way I can make any sense of this story is the way you have it figured–that the Saudis did a CYA–that they had enough G2 on this guy to see him as a threat to their interests. And we know what those interests are! Which kind of puts the old spotlight back on our folks. I mean when you get a warning from the SAUDIS–about a MUSLIM–when they think this guy’s so potnetially toxic that they have to self-protect by warning us? Think that might be a huge clue?

  15. says

    Great reply to SophiaT, Classicus. I read the headline and had the same thoughts as SophiaT, so thank for presenting a very plausible answer.

  16. says

    Can’t seem to get the typo-generator toggled to “off” here…

    Typographic errors get everyone now and then George. Look at this one in my earlier post:

    That was directed in part at the Saudis, who have long engaged in a double game – saying on [sic] thing in public and saying and supporting something else out of plain view.

  17. says

    Classicus, I hadn’t even noticed that until you mentioned it. Which I think only illustrates my own problem here!

    To APF: I think the Saudis saw that this guy Tsarnaev had nothing to offer them–and could be harmful by association–to their long-term objectives: Colonize. Mosque-ize. ISLAMIZE. So he was not only expendable to them, but a useful pawn–a get-out-of-jail-free card in their ongoing scam.

    Maybe there’s another way to interpret this; I can’t see it from here…

  18. says

    But no renunciation of jihad war terror is forthcoming from our ally, for to do that would be to renounce Islam itself.

    Yes, that’s more or less it, Alarmed. As you have pointed out several times, Islam is corrective.. Nothing corrects a mule like a slap with a heavy stick. We should say that it is coercive as well. And we might as well say that the essence of Islam is jihad. Submit or else. Without the jihad, whether it be by overt violence, or insidiously by axing the infidels for more consideration and cooperation, why would anyone submit?

    But just to add a little note of sarcasm, we ought not to fear. After all, our Obamatude is a well educated man. He knows what taqiyya and kitman are. He has been to Punahou, Occidental, Columbia, and Harvard. What people don’t know is that he is also a graduate of Dean Wormer’s course in Intelligence Strategy, and he has put the Saudis on extra deep triple secret probation.

  19. says

    Sunnis believe in the Mahdi as well, just not the Shi’a form of it. Remember the self-revealed “Mahdi” leading the Sudan revolt in the 1880s.

  20. says

    Tamerlan was the wrong kind of Muslim that listed a YouTube video with Shia eschatology

    The Saudis are Sunni and presumably hate Shia, especially Shia jihadis.

  21. says

    Muhammad created the supremacist version of Islam with Jihad at the center. The Saudis just teach the Hanbali school of Islam, the strictest.

    Jihad warfare against non-Muslims and the subjugation of non-Muslims is taught by every mainstream school of Islam.

  22. says

    Saudi Arabia warned the U.S. in writing about the Boston jihad bomber in 2012
    …………………………..

    Even if the Saudis are now denying it, this makes clear yet another link in the international Jihad links of the Tsarnaev brothers.

    As for *why* the Jihad-supporting Saudis would share information with the Brits and the Americans, I don’t believe that is all that much of a mystery.

    While the Saudis support Jihad, they are also”like the Pakistanis”also frequent victims of Jihad plots. If they thought a certain Jihadist might work against them, they would have no problems in letting the Infidels take them out.

    Mortimer wrote:

    Saudi Arabia created this modern, supremacist version of Islam that we may conveniently call ‘jihadism’…the ideology of using terror to impose a global caliphate.
    …………………………..

    With respect, Mortimer, Saudi Arabia did not create this”it was part of Islam from the very beginning. But you are certainly correct that the Wahabbis are most pious purveyors of Jihad.

  23. says

    : ‘The Saudi government had no prior information about the Boston bombers. Therefore, it is not true that any information, written or otherwise, was passed to the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) or any other US agency in this regard,’ an embassy statement statement claimed.

    ‘The Saudi government also does not have any record of any application by Tamerlan Tsarnaev for any visa to Saudi Arabia.’
    –Saudi embassy

    Where is Kafka when you need him?

  24. says

    George: I am fighting the jihadists here and working at the same time. I don’t time to teach you grammar now! So please….
    M

  25. says

    Great points, WhupTdue! This is very interesting, and disturbing. The politics.. If the warning was in fact issued, one possible scenario is that the US government worked with the Saudis to have them falsely take it back, in order to save face. Since US officials seem quite chummy with the Saudis, I think it’s quite possible as one of various possibilities, the truth of which we may never know..