Pakistan: Police stop Ahmadis from performing Eid sacrifice on grounds that they were not Muslims

Yet in the West, Ahmadi spokesmen like the unctuous Harris Zafar and the preening Qasim Rashid carry water for the same Islamic supremacists who would cheerfully destroy their homes and places of worship if they were in Pakistan. Instead, Zafar and Rashid target those who stand up for the Ahmadis and decry their persecution, carrying water for their own oppressors.

“No ‘Qurbani’ for you: Police stop Ahmadis from ritual sacrificing in Lahore,” from the Express Tribune, October 17 (thanks to Lookmann):

LAHORE: Lahore police stopped various members of the Ahmadi community in Lahore from slaughtering animals as part of “˜Qurbani” ritual on Eidul Azha, proclaiming that the ritual of animal sacrifice was an Islamic injunction whereas Ahmadis were not Muslims.

The Express Tribune learnt that police from the Islampura Police Station directed Tahir* in Sanat Nagar not to sacrifice his bull, which he had bought and tied in front of his house a day before Eid.

At the direction of police, Tahir had to remove the animal from his house.

On the same night, Hanjarwal police raided the house of Ahmad* at Sabzazar and took him to the police station, where he was detained for two hours. When his family members reached the police station, officials agreed to release him, but not before he provided a a written assurance that he will not perform the sacrifice meant to remember the Prophet Ibrahim’s (AS) tradition of presenting Ismail (AS) for sacrifice, said one of Tahir’s family members.

Jamaat-e-Ahmadiyya spokesperson Saleemuddin, while talking to The Express Tribune, said all of this was too much for the Ahmadia community in Lahore.

He said that the police, instead of providing security to the citizens, was meddling in sectarian issues and supporting hardliners.

*Tahir and Ahmad are fabricated names to protect the identities of the victims.[**]

**Because otherwise they might be murdered for telling about what happened to them.

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  1. says

    Yet in the West, Ahmadi spokesmen like the unctuous Harris Zafar and the preening Qasim Rashid carry water for the same Islamic supremacists who would cheerfully destroy their homes and places of worship if they were in Pakistan. Instead, Zafar and Rashid target those who stand up for the Ahmadis and decry their persecution, carrying water for their own oppressors.

    I’m guessing it’s for the same reason leftists support an ideology that ultimately means their doom: the existence of a common goal and the illusion of peaceful coexistence after achieving said goal.

  2. says

    Pakistan: Police stop Ahmadis from performing Eid sacrifice on grounds that they were not Muslims
    ……………………………

    And the main reason Ahmadis are not considered true Muslims is because while they advocate the brutal horror os Shari’ah law, they do not believe in waging violent Jihad in order to impose it.

    For this (comparative) decency, they are oppressed, persecuted, and slaughtered throughout the Muslim world.

    More:

    Yet in the West, Ahmadi spokesmen like the unctuous Harris Zafar and the preening Qasim Rashid carry water for the same Islamic supremacists who would cheerfully destroy their homes and places of worship if they were in Pakistan. Instead, Zafar and Rashid target those who stand up for the Ahmadis and decry their persecution, carrying water for their own oppressors.
    ……………………………

    Yes”and this is grotesque. It was just the same, though, with the sickening Naseem, who posted here for many years. She was a thoroughgoing Muslim supremacist, even though her family had had to flee to the West to escape persecution from her more mainstream coreligionists.

    And here, Muslims want to make sure that Ahmadis cannot practice the horrific ritual bloodletting of Eid ad Adha, which is reserved for only the most orthodox of “believers”. *Ugh*.

  3. says

    Just want to share that back home Ahmadies are stopped. However in Germany the national head of Ahmadiyya Community, Mr Abdullah Wagishauser was picked up to present the Islamic view of Eid-ul-Adhia on famous TV (HR) in the state of Hessen Germany. He was given almost 30 minutes to explain all about Eid Fest as well details about Ahmadiyya. Stoppage in home country has resulted much more spread of Ahmadiyya Message through out the world. Various quesitons he was asked one can see on themuslimtimes dot org.

  4. says

    You say “And the main reason Ahmadis are not considered true Muslims is because while they advocate the brutal horror os Shari’ah law, they do not believe in waging violent Jihad in order to impose it”.

    What absolute hogwash – the main reason they are not considered muslim is because they have a living prophet – to them Muhammed is not and never will be – the final prophet.

    So the context is wrong – when they have a question they do not consult the Koran in each and every case as a muslim does – they ask banana man.

    Secondly their passpor proves that they are not muslims.

    You really are a brainless childless “woman” aren’t you.

    And who is Naseem?

    More Later…..

    Rezali

  5. says

    “to them Muhammed is not and never will be – the final prophet.”

    And their final prophet’s main idea, was, as gravenimage says, “while they advocate the brutal horror of Shari’ah law, they do not believe in waging violent Jihad in order to impose it.”

    But I see your implied point Rezali: since they don’t believe Mo is the last prophet, and consult “banana man” instead of the Koran, and it says they’re not Muslims on their passports, it’s OK to persecute them. In fact, they’re not persecuted enough. They should be persecuted worldwide!

    I’m being sarcastic, by the way.

  6. says

    The vile Rezali Mehil wrote:

    You say “And the main reason Ahmadis are not considered true Muslims is because while they advocate the brutal horror os Shari’ah law, they do not believe in waging violent Jihad in order to impose it”.

    What absolute hogwash – the main reason they are not considered muslim is because they have a living prophet – to them Muhammed is not and never will be – the final prophet.
    ……………………………

    This is, of course, not strictly true. Ahmadiyya don’t believe that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad was a prophet”but they do believe that he was the Mahdi or “messiah”. Whereas, Shia Like Rezali believe that the Mahdi is down that well.

    In any case, pious Muslims always have multiple reasons for oppressing minorities.

    Certainly, the Ahmadi rejection of violent Jihad is one of their major objections. And whatever devout Muslims object to, they violently persecute.

    More:

    So the context is wrong – when they have a question they do not consult the Koran in each and every case as a muslim does – they ask banana man.
    ……………………………

    By that “reasoning”, any Muslim who cites the Hadith or Sira is just as bad.

    And “banana man””good grief. More Muslim supremacism from the nasty Rezali Mehil.

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    Secondly their passpor proves that they are not muslims.
    ……………………………

    Even more circular reasoning. Orthodox Muslims say Ahmadiyya are not Muslim”and the proof is that they won’t allow them to identify themselves as Muslim on their passports!

    Does Rezali Mehim even realize the illogic of this “argument”?

    More:

    And who is Naseem?
    ……………………………

    Naseem was a “Tokyo Rose” constantly preaching the West’s immanent fall to Islam, who urged us to just roll over and surrender. She posted here for many years until her eventual banning. She is still widely remembered here as one of the more memorable Muslim trolls.

    For a long time, she claimed to be in Pakistan, but it came to light that she was posting from the UK”same as Rezali Mehi, in fact.

    Despite the fact that Naseem was Ahmadi, she was every bit the same sort of Muslim surpemacist as is Shi’ite Rezali Mehil.

    In fact, Rezali Mehil reminds me of no one so much as the late Naseem”even though Rezali Mehil would despise Naseem and want to see her oppressed or worse.

    But then, this internecine hatred among Muslims is nothing new”obviously, orthodox Sunnis would regard Rezali Mehil in just the same manner.

    God, I hate Islam.

  7. says

    Zubair Khan wrote:

    Just want to share that back home Ahmadies are stopped. However in Germany the national head of Ahmadiyya Community, Mr Abdullah Wagishauser was picked up to present the Islamic view of Eid-ul-Adhia on famous TV (HR) in the state of Hessen Germany. He was given almost 30 minutes to explain all about Eid Fest as well details about Ahmadiyya. Stoppage in home country has resulted much more spread of Ahmadiyya Message through out the world.
    ……………………………….

    Another Ahmadi stumping for Islam, paving the way for a Muslim takeover”*Ugh*.

    This is what Zubair Khan has to say at his own site:

    Justice and fairness are the roots of Islamic real teachings.
    ……………………………….

    Strange, then, that his own sect is brutally persecuted throughout the Muslim world”how did so many Muslims get that “justice and fairness” thing so very, very, wrong?

    As he notes, the only places where Ahmadis are *not* persecuted is in Dar-al-Harb. He himself had to flee to Germany.

    And as for “justice”, as I noted, even Ahmadiyya Muslims want to see the imposition of brutal Shari’ah law.