UK: Jihadists fighting in Syria and Afghanistan, “learning the trade” and returning to Britain

British Home Secretary Theresa May warned of the same thing several days ago. Both she and Dr Sally Leivesley, security expert, seem to have blandly and complacently accepted that the Muslims who travel from Britain to Syria or Afghanistan and train for jihad simply must be admitted back into Britain. Yet when the jihadist imam Omar Bakri left Britain for Lebanon a few years ago, he wasn’t allowed back in — and May didn’t hesitate to ban Pamela Geller and me from the U.K. for opposing the same jihad that these “Britons” are now returning from Syria to spread. Britain is, in other words, quite mad.

“Terrorism is ‘no longer over there, it’s here,'” from ITV News, October 9 (thanks to Kenneth):

Terrorism is “no longer over there, it’s here” according to a security expert.

Dr Sally Leivesley told Daybreak terrorists were frequently fighting abroad in countries like Syria and Afghanistan, “learning the trade” and then returning to England.

Dr Leivesley was speaking after the head of the MI5, Andrew Parker, went on a blistering attack against Edward Snowden and the Guardian for exposing America and Britain’s mass-surveillance programme.

“It is quite interesting because he [Parker] talks about why we have to live without fear and it’s why he..tries to dull down the statements that he is making, because he is really telling us we have to expect this.

“But he is also saying that it is so unpredictable that they can’t tell if they are going to be successful against these attacks, because the whole of policing, is lifted off up the ground.

“It is no longer just the police on the street. It is really through the airwaves.”

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  1. says

    a powder kegs waiting to explode. The irony is that even when after these kegs have exploded, authorities would still refuse to link islam to violence – the D. Cameron style.

  2. says

    UK (and all Western countries) need to ask ‘what is the actual bill of policing, army, security) caused by having Islam in the world?’

    If we can calculate how much Islam is costing all of us, we can start a worldwide ‘Stop Islam’ program to eradicate Islam as a political philosophy.

    When governments calculated the cost of smoking and related cancers, they decided to HELP PEOPLE QUIT.

    We need government programs to help people quit this addictive, terroristic death cult.

  3. says

    When the jihadists come back in & start blowing things up & killing people, elitists like Theresa May should be in the dock right alongside the perps, answering the same charges for facilitating & aiding it to happen. That will get the politicians thinking about the results of their policies.

  4. says

    and the UK continues its march to submission…it forbids people who would educate the British people about the truths of ISLAM from entering the country….

  5. says

    It’s hard to really know anything on this subject.

    The distracted, hand wringing Brits seem now to be abjectly absorbed in political correctness, afraid of inciting a Muslim uprising if they use their customary pragmatic common sense of yore, i.e. during the Second World War, as they’ve been totally infiltrated by our common enemy, these Muslims.

    Responsible, sensible folks in Britain seem to be up against a stone wall of dithering and running around like recently decapitated chickens.

    The use of the word, “decapitated” when discussing Muslims versus civilization has taken on a literal meaning.

    We Americans aren’t immune to this, just look at the current all-sides-at-once approaches of this current “administration”.

    Division will lead to our being conquered by our Muslim enemy. Spades are indeed spades.

  6. says

    UK: Jihadists fighting in Syria and Afghanistan, “learning the trade” and returning to Britain
    ……………………………

    And this is not just happening in Britain. Somali Jihadists are returning to the United States, other Jihadists are returning back to the other parts of Dar-al-Harb that have given them asylum.

    The Tsarnaev brothers may well have learned to make bombs in Chechnya, and then brought those grim skills “home” to wreck havoc on the Boston Marathon.

  7. says

    My belief is that church men are supposed to be the front line against evil.
    Allah is obviously the devil pretending to be god.
    He includes amongst the 99 names of allah, his own character traits,(1)The most proud one,(2)The greatest deceiver,(3)The bringer of death.

    He is the same god of this world as we were up against with Hitler.

    We are in a war that is primarily spiritual.
    Christ has defeated satan already, but the many are in darkness, and under the spirit of death, even though Christ rose and when we die we just sleep until the resurrection.

    To the extent that we don’t GET this, we are also under the spirit of death.

    They say thay they will win because they love death more than we love life.
    Are they right?

    That puts us all on the spot. Do we have victory over the devil, in our own lives, and what about family and friends, and everyone that you know.

    Feminism was backed by the NWO elite,-and has been the vanguard of political correctness, and now that the nuclear family is all but destroyed,and the majority of men are subverted to one degree or another,the NWO elite are backing islam to do their dirty work,- because they worship the same “proud,deceiving,murdering” god as the muslims.

    Big crooks rip off little crooks.

    Islamics are just the worst dickheads ripping off weaker dickheads.

    There could never have been a break down of our defences and invasion, without men’s ongoing failing to rule well, and failure to identify with God rather than women.

    Now that the TROJAN horse of islam has released it’s soldiers inside our borders, what can we do?

    Time for some reflection on history and time to get right with the True GOD of TRUTH and Love, and be prepared to die for what you believe.

    Time to close ranks, live serious disciplined lives as though your life depends on it.
    Admonish and warn those around us who are son’s of satan, who are living in sin, reminding them that we are in a war and must be sober and vigilant.

    Discriminate against those who spread anti-Christ doctrine, otherwise you will be implicated in their wickedness.
    Don’t buy or sell to them. Don’t allow them over your threshold. Don’t rent your house to them, or rent from them. Don’t sell your house to them Don’t employ them.

    Feed them and cloth them and pay the benefits because we are implicated in allowing them in, and they are human beings, so we can pay.

    Find out what The BIBLE says and obey what GOD says about how to deal with your enemy.
    Love them and pray for them, but don’t aid and abet them in any way, and don’t be friends with people who do.

  8. says

    Well said.

    This is why I preach, over and over and over again, my sermon on Containment and Isolation of these malignant Muslims.

    We’re spinning our wheels in this appalling political correctness.

    We need to recognize publically that our Muslim enemy is using our hard won freedoms against us.

    We need to ignore these knee-jerk Muslim claims of “islamophobia”, “racism”, and “prejudice”, and literally press on with our public awareness of these threats against us in the West.

  9. says

    “The Tsarnaev brothers may well have learned to make bombs in Chechnya, and then brought those grim skills “home” to wreck havoc on the Boston Marathon.”

    Stop it now. Just stop it. You have no proof of that – that they MAY have. What we DO have proof of, is that they admitted to learning the pressure cooker bomb technique from the online magazine, “Inspire”.

    Don’t fall into the LL paradigm, where there is only ONE explanation for everything that is based upon rampant paranoia.

    Continue to think in this way, and the terrorists have won.

    Regards,

    DMD

  10. says

    PhilipJihadski wrote:

    [GI] “The Tsarnaev brothers may well have learned to make bombs in Chechnya, and then brought those grim skills “home” to wreck havoc on the Boston Marathon.”

    Stop it now. Just stop it. You have no proof of that – that they MAY have. What we DO have proof of, is that they admitted to learning the pressure cooker bomb technique from the online magazine, “Inspire”.

    Don’t fall into the LL paradigm, where there is only ONE explanation for everything that is based upon rampant paranoia.

    Continue to think in this way, and the terrorists have won.
    ………………………………..

    Philip, I have to say that I’m rather nonplussed by this.

    The Tsarnaev brothers had close familial links to the Jihad in Chechnya.

    They also decided to wage violent Jihad in Boston shortly after returning from Chechnya.

    And the idea that they may have garnered expertise from sources other than Inspire is not idle “paranoia””here’s what the FBI has to say, as covered by the Wall Street Journal:

    “The FBI’s bomb experts analyzed remnants of both bombs that exploded on April 15 near the marathon’s finish line, as well as additional explosive devices that authorities said were recovered after the encounter with the suspects early on April 19.

    Their early conclusion is that the bomb makers likely had additional training or expertise, in part because they deviated from two recipes in Inspire, according to a report prepared by the Terrorist Explosive Device Analytical Center and law-enforcement officials briefed on the investigation…”

    “FBI Says Devices Suggest Expertise”

    http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424127887324743704578447212196070792

    But I don’t believe the two are mutually exclusive”clearly, Muslims are learning Jihad skills from a variety of sources: engaging in fighting in global Jihad zones, from bomb-making sites on the internet (Jihadist and otherwise), and in some cases directly from their coreligionists down at the local Mosque.

    I believe that we need to keep an eye on *all* of these sources of Jihad in the civilized West.

    I certainly don’t believe that pious Muslims picking up terrorist skills while waging violent Jihad abroad is the *only* threat, but I do believe it to be a major one.

    And I have to admit I’m at a bit of a loss as to why a concern over Jihadists bringing the Jihad back to the civilized countries that gave them asylum would indicate that “the terrorists have won”.