Malaysia: Muslim group warns that men wearing silk is sign of the apocalypse

0220_batik-silk-afp_600_447_100Muhammad is depicted in Islamic tradition as saying that a sign of the apocalypse will be when “there will be peoples of my Community who will hold fornication, silk, wine, and musical instruments to be lawful ….” — ‘Umdat al-Salik r40.0

But note that they’re upset about men wearing silk — not, say, about jihad terrorism, or jihad/martyrdom suicide bombings, or the oppression of women, non-Muslims, gays, etc. that is institutionalized in Sharia. That’s all fine. Just don’t wear silk while you’re blowing yourself up in a crowd of Infidels or beating your wife.

“Silk batik ‘haram’, signals coming of the apocalypse, Muslim group warns,” by Shazwan Mustafa Kamal for the Malay Mail, February 20 (thanks to Jerk Chicken):

KUALA LUMPUR, Feb 20 — A Muslim consumer group warned today that the wearing of pure silk batik cloths is not only forbidden among Muslim men but is also a sign of Islam’s apocalypse, a prophetic revelation on the end of days.

The Muslim Consumers Association of Malaysia (PPIM) said many Muslims here are unaware of this fact, which it said is enshrined in several hadiths, also known as the collection of words and deeds of the Prophet Muhammad.

“Rasulullah SAW has said that Muslim men cannot wear silk and gold.

“Hadiths also state that one of the tanda kiamat (signs of the apocalypse) is when pure silk is being worn, and that there is no awareness about this,” PPIM activist Sheikh Abd Kareem S Khadaied told reporters at a press conference here.

Batik is a form of textile art often marketed as a national heritage in Muslim-majority Malaysia and Indonesia.

Government leaders and religious figures here commonly use batik, which comes in a variety of materials, including pure silk, rayon and cotton, for official functions.

But Sheikh Abd Kareem said pure silk cannot be the way to go for Muslim men and suggested that alternatives to the material be used instead.

He took aim at the Malaysian Handicraft Development Corporation, saying that it had not done anything to research on alternative materials besides pure silk to make batik, despite having enough funds to do so.

“In the current industry most of the silk batik worn by Muslim men is pure silk. Only about ten per cent is silk mixture,” he said.

When asked to explain how PPIM might make non-Muslims understand the reasoning behind the banning of pure silk for Muslim men, Sheikh Abd Kareem said it was unnecessary.

When the Prophet says it is forbidden, that means it is forbidden, we listen and abide by it.

“Logic is a (part of human) desire,” he added, saying that when it came to Islam one should not demand a reasoning or explanation on a matter.

But Sheikh pointed out that PPIM had no problems with batik cloths which used silk mixed with other materials such as linen and cotton as there was no hadith which forbade this.

He said he had brought the matter up with the National Fatwa Council and the Malaysian Islamic Department (Jakim) but they have yet to provide a solution on the matter.

“There has to be labelling done on each batik cloth for that people will know it is pure silk and therefore haram,” Sheikh said.

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Comments

  1. Fr. Basil says

    We know that fornication is accepted among mahometan males. It’s sometimes called sex with “what your right hands own,” or “temporary marriage.” The rest of the time it’s called “sexual jihad.”

  2. JamesonRocks says

    So, no problem… Just mix in a little cotton or linen in the garment and they’ll be good to go for their next “outing.”

  3. St. Michael Defend Us says

    Silk has different properties than cotton or linen. Cotton and linen and rayon require different dying procedures than silk. Silk is very pretty, too.

  4. PJG says

    If they can’t wear silk they can’t wear silk, whether it’s mixed with another fibre or not. Even someone completely opposed to logic (such as a Muslim) could surely comprehend that. If not, perhaps if they start to mix pork with chicken all is sweet. Or what about cocktails? Can’t you just see silk/cotton-wearing Muslim dudes drinking colourful cocktails with their pork and chicken dimsims?

    Islam is “flexible” as we are always told. Sometimes yes, sometines no.

  5. citycat says

    It is the end of days.

    This is the dusk of a dark dark night ahead.

    The world must combine its light.

    • PJG says

      “Immensely arguable whether “logic is part of desire”. Logic in fact can dictate that you do something you really don’t want to do, but you do it because it is logical.

      “Logic is desire” is Islamic thinking, not ours. Nobody here is up for a debate about that little droplet of brilliance from the Prophet. Logic is logic whether the Prophet likes it or not. If Muslims choose to ignore or discredit logic, it doesn’t make it go away.

  6. veggiedog says

    Mohammad sure had a lot to say. What a prophet, insightful as hell. Of course he was either a mad man, or other wrote what is attributed to him. Either way, there is much insanity in those writings that have caused so much for so many.

  7. duh_swami says

    Why silk? Silk is known among certain groups as a psychic insulator. Wearing it is similar to the tin foil hat idea, it protects you against unwanted, outside negative energy. Flannel is also supposed to have those protective qualities, but silk is better. That’s why ceremonial magicians wear silk clothing, including silk slippers in their rituals. It protects them from demon possession. In the case of Islam, it may shield the wearer from possession by the malevolent spirit of Allah.
    I’m not so sure that Mahound was sophisticated enough to understand this, but according to the occultists, banning silk leaves the shahada addict wide open for demon possession, especially during prayers. Is any of this valid? I don’t know, but occultists and mystics seem to think it is…

    • Jay Boo says

      Forgot to hit reply (comment below) beginning with …
      … If only Muhammad had been wearing silk when was ‘tricked’

    • dumbledoresarmy says

      Are you serious, or are you just funning (as you so often – brilliantly – do)?

      *Is* silk really seen by occultists – which ones? – as “protective”?? Care to quote chapter and verse of your source, if so?

      If that’s a real idea – and if it were current back then – it *would* put Mohammed’s banning of silk in a rather sinister light.

      Funny, too, that a bloke who had, supposedly, worked as a *merchant*, would want to ban the wearing of silk, which was one of *the* top-drawer trade items.

  8. Jay Boo says

    If only Muhammad had been wearing silk when was ‘tricked’ by Satan into reciting his Satanic Verses which became known as the the Quran.
    Muhammad conveniently set up a story about the Angel Gabriel as a go-between in order to pass off the blame in case he got caught in a lie.
    Classic Rules of lying 101.

  9. gravenimage says

    Malaysia: Muslim group warns that men wearing silk is sign of the apocalypse

    But note that they’re upset about men wearing silk — not, say, about jihad terrorism, or jihad/martyrdom suicide bombings, or the oppression of women, non-Muslims, gays, etc. that is institutionalized in Sharia. That’s all fine. Just don’t wear silk while you’re blowing yourself up in a crowd of Infidels or beating your wife.
    ……………………………..

    Yup—Muslim priorities in action. It is instructive to see what Muslims are really incensed about—like the idea that someone might publicly celebrate Valentine’s Day.

    More:

    “When the Prophet says it is forbidden, that means it is forbidden, we listen and abide by it.
    …………………………………

    And more than this, what the “Prophet” approved of and practiced is also an unquestioned model for Muslims for all time.

    And that means pedophilia, slavery and sex slavery, and the waging of violent Jihad against the Infidel.

    More:

    “Logic is a (part of human) desire,” he added, saying that when it came to Islam one should not demand a reasoning or explanation on a matter.
    …………………………………

    Well, that’s true enough. Reason has *nothing* to do with this—neither does logic. Pious Muslims consider logic nothing more than another “irrational” human desire, compared to unreasoning submission to Muhammed’s every vicious whim.

    God, I hate Islam.

  10. Jackson says

    Believing a virgin become pregnant or Noah built a ship to carry all the world’s animals isn’t any smarter