Germany: Criminal Muslims given shorter sentences due to “culture”

islam-prison-britain-gangsApparently, Muslims cannot help it as much as non-Muslims can, if they rape or kill — and so they must be given more lenient sentences than non-Muslims receive. In effect, the German courts thus follow the Sharia, which also regards it is a mitigating factor if Muslims hurt people in order to observe and apply the Sharia. Via 10news.dk, translated by Sandra from Bild (pay wall):

Jolin’s murderer got a lenient sentence because of his religion

Berlin – The German-Afghan Isa S. (24) murdered his pregnant ex-girlfriend Jolin († 22), because she did not want to abort his child. The sentence: lifelong — but with greater possibility for parole, against the prosecutor’s wish.

Judge Rolf Vogel justifies his decision: “Because of the cultural and religious background”.

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  1. umbra says

    The cultural handicap advantage. Available only for whiners with murderous inclinations.

  2. RichardTheLionheart says

    I see this two ways, one is that atleast they are admitting its due to their religion that they behave like savages. Which brings hope they will soon grow intollerant of their outlandish behaviour. The other darker side is we are becomming dhimmis from the top down in europe. I see it only ending in violent conflict which we simply do not need…

    • Defcon 4 says

      “…violent conflict which we simply do not need…” Those who aren’t willing to fight for their liberties and freedoms deserve neither.

  3. Mohammed's pink swastika says

    It seems to me that if there’s a class of people who are more prone to commit crime, that the sentences for these crimes should be longer rather than shorter to prove a point that religious and cultural practices do not usurp the authority of law.
    I guess that’s the point, though. That cultural and religious practices do usurp the authority of law.

  4. Reality Check says

    When I was in the Gulf, an unknown Muslim animal reached for my hair and touched it. I yelled at him in extreme anger and he stepped back saying: “Sorry, didn’t know your culture did not allow it.” Of course he knew it was inappropriate EVEN in my culture but he played the fool to get away with it – and he did it because he knew I didn’t have a family with me to kill him on the spot. They are animals, most of them, and violence is the only reaction they respect – the reason they emigrate to the West (apart from welfare) is women. Here, women are not locked in their homes and they can finally pursue and assault women with impunity – which, sadly, our governments, in their infinite democratic cowardice, allow them to do with no serious response at all.

    • says

      You got that 100% correct, since muslim/arab men are cowards by their very nature, they need countries that allow them to act like barbarians.

      • xyz says

        All true.. why do u guys vote for the lawmakers who promote mislims in ur country. Why cant u guys organise rallies in ur countries to highlight how islam is ruining ur country. We in muslim countries go through hardships daily cause we are christian. they rape and murder our families if we dont convert.
        this will be the same in the western world if u guys dont stand up and shove them out
        they claim alot of liberties based on religion.. and yet your law makers n government instead of taking us as refugees take more jihadis to ruin ur country as well. I hope u guys do something before its too late and Islam takes over the west.

        • dumbledoresarmy says

          Mate, I hear you.

          Where are you from? – Egypt, Pakistan, Syria…? Or..?

          I’m Australian. I would like *all* our refugee / asylum seeker places to be reserved specifically for people like you – Copts from Egypt, Syrian and Iraqi Christians (Mandeans can come too), non-Muslims from Pakistan and Malaysia and Indonesia. But *no* Muslims, no matter what sob stories they spin.

          We’re trying. I support Barnabas Fund.

          In Australia there is now Q Society.

          Before anything can happen, more of our own people – especially our political and religious leaders – have to be *woken up*. And that, alas, takes time.

          Please, pray like blazes that those of us who are trying to warn our fellow citizens and our leaders will *get through*. Pray for the unmasking of muslim lies.

    • Mikko says

      Are you saying the only way Muslim men get Western women is rape? No. Very many Western women consider Muslim men to be quite masculine and assertive and these qualities they find attractive. Heck, even the women of the heavily prosecuted minorities in the Muslim world forsake their families to marry Muslim men.

      Many Muslim men are swimming in western women. They know that the pickings can be quite easy in the West. So, along with getting money, better education, jobs, opportunities, they get White women as a package deal. If they make some of these women convert and have their children, they strike a blow for Islam. Some Muslim men only have fun with these women who they consider not fit for marriage or having a family with. It varies!

  5. Ameer says

    Obviously not a practicing muslim, what’s the guy doing going out with a girl?

    Cant wait for more of your second rate drivel Nicolai Sennels.

    • gravenimage says

      Ameer wrote:

      Obviously not a practicing muslim, what’s the guy doing going out with a girl?
      ………………………………….

      What *absolute crap*. This is *very, very* common, where Muslim men in the West have sex with Infidel girls and women, usually treating them like crap.

      And why? Because they are essentially treating them as “possessions of the right hand”, i.e., sex slaves.

      More:

      Cant wait for more of your second rate drivel Nicolai Sennels.
      ………………………………….

      Sennels is quite right to raise the alarm here. But pious Mohammedans like Ameer don’t want Infidels like Sennels and Spencer to dare notice the Islamic threat—and, especially, not to dare speak openly about it.

  6. squeezethejuice says

    The Western countries are hypocrites. They complain about criminality of Muslims yet refuse to apply the law code that is proven the best in preventing future criminal behaviour, that is Sharia Law.

    • islamisdeath says

      Sharia is savage and barbaric. We are not. Our laws work for normal human beings. If we sentence one of your criminals to a strict sentence the whole lot of you get out in the street and whine, and scream, and burn, and kill, and destroy! You scream discrimination oh boohooo why cant I do whatever I choose I am a muslim boohoo hooo!

      You are not like us you are pure savages!

      You enjoy murder and rape and thieving and criminality in general to a man!

      • JAMES says

        when you bend your laws to accommodate other peoples laws
        soon those other people will bend you to their laws..

      • DVult says

        If they go out in the street and riot then send in the riot squad and crack some skulls and make some arrests. Then hand down severe punishment to those arrested (if they are proven guilty of course).

      • Kalliope says

        Now, now let’s be charitable.
        Muslims are just emulating their perfect man, Muḥammad.
        Of course, when you thoroughly examine Muḥammad’s actions, the conclusion is either Muḥammad was either: 1) suffering from demonic-possession, or 2) suffering from insanity.

        I prefer to be generous and say Muḥammad’s insanity was result of his demonic possession. Because no sane and decent person would bestow the spiritual filthiness that is ʾIslām upon the world and say it came from God without being possessed.

        A Bewitched Prophet?
        http://answering-islam.org/Authors/Wood/bewitched_prophet.htm

        Šarīʿah Law. Oppressing mankind ever since a demon assaulted and possessed Muḥammad in that cave in 610 AD.

    • gravenimage says

      The repulsive “squeezethejuice” (squeeze the Jews) wrote:

      The Western countries are hypocrites. They complain about criminality of Muslims yet refuse to apply the law code that is proven the best in preventing future criminal behaviour, that is Sharia Law.
      …………………………………..

      “Squeeze the Jews” hopes that we believe that barbaric Shari’ah is a “strict” criminal code, due to its savagery in matters such as caning for drinking alcohol and amputation for petty theft, but this is only part of the story.

      The fact is that Islamic “values” are very, very different from those of civilized people.

      In reality, every place that has Shari’ah law—far from being orderly and peaceful—is a bloody, chaotic sh*thole, rife with violence. Just look at places like Afghanistan, Yemen, and Somalia.

      And why not? Isa S. could murder a victim like Jolin with complete impunity under Shari’ah law—she was a woman and an Infidel and her actions, regardless of their intent, would have inconvenienced her Muslim killer.

      In fact, *all sorts* of horrors are legal or winked at under Shari’ah—false accusations of “blasphemy”; robbing, abuse and slaughter of Infidels; “Honor Killings”; rape and gang rape.

      It is women, children, Infidels, “other sect” Muslims, tribal minorities, the poor, the weak, and the unpopular who suffer most under unequal Shari’ah law.

      In most cases, Shari’ah represents a virtual blank check for majority-sect Muslim males.

      Under Shari’ah, Jolin would still be dead—and her killer Isa S.—unless he proved unpopular with the powers that be for some reason—would likely be free and already trolling for his next victims.

      Even hobbled by the insanity of “political correctness”, Western law is *far, far* superior to the barbarism of Shari’ah.

      And how like a pious Muslim, when confronted with the brutality of his coreligionists, to tell civilized Infidels that our only problem is that we haven’t embraced *even more* Islamic barbarism. *Ugh*.

  7. Marylou says

    When these savages are granted admission to civilized countries – if they must be allowed in at all – why aren’t they given a written summary of the laws of that country stating that they are not allowed to kill, rape, steal, blow things up, etc., and that doing so will subject them to prosecution, imprisonment, and/or deportation, with no second chance or appeal, and made to sign a statement that they fully understand and agree? Seems to me that this would put an end to such frivolous nonsense.

    • Defcon 4 says

      Why wouldn’t they just lie? After all, their holey prophet encouraged his followers to lie. Do you really think the scuzzlums don’t realize what constitutes a crime and what doesn’t in the Western countries in which they parasitically squat?

  8. gravenimage says

    Germany: Criminal Muslims given shorter sentences due to “culture”

    Apparently, Muslims cannot help it as much as non-Muslims can, if they rape or kill — and so they must be given more lenient sentences than non-Muslims receive.
    ………………………………………

    What *utter insanity*—yet judges in other Western nations have come to the same conclusion, like the dhimmi in New Jersey who decided being Muslim was a ‘mitigating factor” in marital rape.

    This is, actually, considerably *worse* than refusing to see that Muslims are more violent than Westerners (which is also depressingly common)—instead, it enables and rewards barbarous values.

    The truth is that with this acknowledgment of Muslim violence, we should be questioning the admission of so many Muslims into the West, or at least scrutinizing what they are taught in the Mosque and the Madrassa, *not* giving them more lenient legal penalties, so that they can be out all the sooner to victimize others again.

    It is also an affirmation from the West that we *accept* Muslim savagery as normative, and are willing to live with that—or die with it, as the case may be…

    More:

    In effect, the German courts thus follow the Sharia, which also regards it is a mitigating factor if Muslims hurt people in order to observe and apply the Sharia.
    ………………………………………

    *Yes*. Whether this is their intent or not, this is *exactly* what this establishes. And where do we go from here? Is it that big a step to go from lessened penalties to decriminalization to *lauding* such savagery? Not necessarily…

    More:

    Jolin’s murderer got a lenient sentence because of his religion

    Berlin – The German-Afghan Isa S. (24) murdered his pregnant ex-girlfriend Jolin († 22), because she did not want to abort his child. The sentence: lifelong — but with greater possibility for parole, against the prosecutor’s wish.

    Judge Rolf Vogel justifies his decision: “Because of the cultural and religious background”.
    ………………………………………

    I had to read that twice—so this isn’t some sort of claim that this Mohammedan murderer had “values” against abortion—instead, he *wanted* her to get rid of the child.

    So the only “culture” the murderer can claim here is that of *controlling and brutalizing women*—just what Germany or any Western nation needs. *Ugh*.

  9. PJG says

    A newspaper item which shocked me many years ago said that an Indonesian man who had killed his ex-girlfriend’s new lover was to get a reduced sentence because he would be bound to suffer “racism” in jail.
    One wonders how many similar incidents of court favouritism to Muslims goes unreported.

  10. No Fear says

    1. By giving muslim immigrants leneint sentences judges are saying that they want a lesser standard of behviour in their own country, since Islam is the eventual result of lack of resistance to Islam.

    2. Do white converts to Islam get lenient sentences as well? If so then why don’t all white criminals instantly convert to Islam when put in front of the judiciary so they get a lenient sentence?

  11. Carmen Sporidis says

    this is by a long shot not the end of this history, the German public was outraged and condemt the judge. There will be a second term in court system.

    • Defcon 4 says

      Um, right here in the USA, in Pennsylvania, a muslime ape on the bench dismissed all charges against a fellow muslime ape for strangling an atheist, publicly, with witnesses at a parade because the atheist dared to impersonate the holeiest pedophile and Jew hating psychopath in pisslam This DESPITE the fact the muslime ape admitted to strangling the atheist. The judge cited “insufficient evidence” in his “decision”.

      When there is no justice, justice must be obtained extra-judicially.

      • gravenimage says

        Defcon 4 wrote:

        Um, right here in the USA, in Pennsylvania, a muslime ape on the bench dismissed all charges against a fellow muslime ape for strangling an atheist
        ……………………….

        Actually, Defcon 4, the judge in this case was also a dhimmi tool, just like this idiot judge in Germany, and not a fellow Muslim.

        The Pennsylvania judge made a statement about how the atheist victim would himself be punished in the Muslim world, which seemed to imply that the judge was Muslim himself, but he was not.

        Instead, he was just another useful idiot—these fools are as dangerous as Mohammedans themselves in their own way.

  12. FatherJon says

    It’s happening everywhere. Only a matter of time before we’re all fronting Sharia magistrates.
    FJ

    • Defcon 4 says

      @FatherJon

      You’re right. Once muslime apes subvert and infiltrate our law enforcement and judiciaries to a sufficient degree they will be enforcing Sharia law in fact, if not name. Where will the sanctimonious advocates for passive resistance to islam0nazism be going for redress of islamic wrongs when the system is run by islam0nazi apes?

  13. Hoekom Jy My Haat says

    What about the cultural, civil and religious norms of the victim? Or of Germany? These moslem criminals, rapists and terrorists are LIVING in Germany, are they not? Then it is THEY who should be subject to German traditions and norms, and not German citizens who are hurt, raped and murdered by them subject to moslem norms. Verdempte moslems.

  14. Stop islam, save humanity says

    This German judge is yet more proof that liberalism/leftism is mostly a mental disorder.