This is all part of the Islamic State’s treatment of these women as the sex slaves, the “captives of the right hand,” that men are allowed in the Qur’an (4:3, 4:24, 23:1-6, 33:50). They have no say in the matter, and if they refuse their fate, they are to be killed.
“ISIS beheads 150 females, including pregnant women, for refusing to marry terrorists,” Zee News, December 17, 2014 (thanks to Maler):
Baghdad: As the world along with Pakistan mourns the death of children killed in the dastardly carried out terrorist attack in an army-run school in Peshawar by Taliban, reports of more violence from another brutal terror group have emerged.
Islamic State militants have reportedly beheaded at least 150 women, some of them pregnant, for refusing to marry them.
Iraq’s Ministry of Human Rights, in a statement released, said that the women in the western Iraqi province of Al-Anbar were attacked by the Islamic State terrorists and were later buried in mass graves in Fallujah.
“At least 150 females, including pregnant women, were executed in Fallujah by a militant named Abu Anas Al-Libi after they refused to accept jihad marriage,” the statement said.
Last month, at least 50 men, women and children were executed by the IS members in a tribe massacre in the village of Ras al-Maa.
According to reports, the militants lined them up and shot them dead in public….
martinR says
It’s hard not to become numb from all the horrors occurring around the world, what will happen to us all? Our Governments just seem complicit.
Alex says
“Our governments just seem complicit”. This is the money quote. This is where half of the damage is done, i.e. by omission: the inexplicable silence of our governments and the pop media, and the feminist groups, and the lefty “human rights” groups… etc.
ManchesterLad says
I suspect our naive governments have borrowed so much from the Saudison special terms – on the understanding that they encourage the spread of multi-culturalism (ie Islam) – and if they go back on the agreement then the loans become due.
I expect also, government ministers are promised for-life consultancy fee payments for their cooperation.
martyB says
Daniel talks about The abomination of desolation set up in the holyplace of worship.Altars were never idols of wood or stone but flesh.
michael hits it Violence IS the Heart of Islam.Hagar’s son ishmael was given an inheritance but not where they are expecting ‘IT’ to be. An appeaser is one who hopes they are eaten by the crocodile last. Convert or die(fight?)
Necromongers?
eib says
Our governments are, by every measure of the evidence, complicit in every act of Muslim violence.
Rob Porter says
eib, they are. The cowardice and lack of moral outrage over the never-ending and appalling acts of Muslim cruelty – with accompanying determination to crush the evil – speaks volumes about the condition of contemporary Western morals. The Western media, too, is complicit. It is revealing that from day to day we need to go to Jihad Watch or Atlas Shrugs to find out about the Muslim savagery occurring. This is a circumstance that often reminds me of what is contained in Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn’s 1978 Harvard commence address:
“The Western world has lost its civic courage, both as a whole and separately, in each country, in each government, in each political party, and, of course, in the United Nations. A decline in courage may be the most striking feature that an outside observer notices in the West today. Such a decline in courage is particularly noticeable among the ruling and intellectual elites, causing an impression of a loss of courage by the entire society. There are many courageous individuals, but they have no determining influence on public life.
Political and intellectual functionaries exhibit this depression passivity and perplexity in their actions and in their statements, and even more so in their self-serving rationales as to how realistic, reasonable, and intellectually and even morally justified it is to base state policies on weakness and cowardice. And the decline in courage, at times attaining what could be termed a lack of manhood, is ironically emphasized by occasional outbursts and inflexibility on the part of those same functionaries when dealing with weak governments and with countries that lack support, or with doomed currents which clearly cannot offer resistance. But they get tongue-tied and paralyzed when they deal with powerful governments and threatening forces, with aggressors and international terrorists.
Must one point out that from ancient times a decline in courage has been considered the first symptom of the end?”
So, that is where we are at in the West. At least 150 women in Iraq get butchered by these Muslim savages and not even a whisper from cowardly Western leader appeasers – all hoping not to anger the barbarians. And to this savagery the mainstream Western media is silent. This morning I watched BBC North America, CNN, and CTV in Canada, and not a word of these appalling murders.
martinR says
Excellent reference!
It matches perfectly what is happening today, but then I suppose this is just a continuing trend of appeasement and ‘turning the other cheek’ in the name of being friendly and protecting trade agreements.
Bro. Nick Nicholas says
@ martinR – I know exactly what you mean – to me the deaths of so many so often becomes ‘mind numbing’
“A single death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic”
These words of monster Joseph Stalin show his clear understanding of the monstrosity that is statistics. He knew that statistics deliver the clear conscience of a numerical justification that avoids responsibility for “man’s inhumanity to man” @
ianangell.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/single-death.pdf
Just exactly as the Lord Jesus Christ personally told His disciples in Luke 17:1-2 [KJV]:
“It is impossible but that offences will come: but woe unto him, through whom they come! It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones.”
“And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.”
(Gen 6:5 [KJV])
“The wicked walk on every side, when the vilest men are exalted.”
(Ps 12:8 [KJV])
“When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice: but when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn.”
(Prov 29:2 [KJV])
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OldNorthState says
Solid observations, here, and solid, ever-validating Biblical references. Isn’t it interesting, if not “odd”, that the human mind and conscience seems so easily deterred of apparent comprehension, or even compassion, when it’s hazed with the camouflage of sheer numbers…
Bro. Nick Nicholas says
Thank you for being aware – very few are.
About the ‘Mind Numbing Statistics – Shameful – YES / ‘Odd’ – not really.
How many people have thought TODAY about the 57,500,000 MURDERED BABIES here in ‘Amerika’ since Roe v Wade in 1973! – that number is estimated to be exceeded sometime early TOMORROW morning!
Talk about ‘Mind Numbing’ – MORE THAN 1.3 BILLION MURDERED BABIES {aka the politically correct word ‘abortion’} worldwide since 1980 – with seldom a ‘news report’ written!
As a ‘Biblical CHRISTian’ this is just exactly as “thus saith the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity, whose name is Holy” inspired to be written in “the truth” of “the word of the LORD”, the Holy Bible nearly 4,000 years ago:
“And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.”
(Gen 6:5 [KJB])
It is my personal Biblical understanding that we are now living in the Biblically prophesied ‘end-of-the-end times’, and while there are Prophetic Warnings in the Holy Bible about the various ‘physical manifestations’ such as “wars and rumours of wars”, “famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places”, worldwide economic ‘woes’, and many others!
– YET there are many more warnings about the much greater ‘eternal dangers of spiritual deception, delusion and a falling away from’ “the truth” that “the Lord Jesus Christ”, all of the authors of the Epistles, and several of the Prophets in the Old Testament warned about in the Holy Bible!
A major indicator of this massive ‘spiritual deception’ and ‘falling away’ is specifically spoken of by the Apostle Paul in 2 Thessalonians Chapter 2 [KJB] – AND Personally by “the Lord Jesus Christ” in Luke 21:8 [KJB]:
“And he said, Take heed that ye be not deceived: for many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and the time draweth near: go ye not therefore after them”.
These are things that should make it increasingly clear to those “few in number”, truly “converted”, ‘Biblical CHRISTians’ that have “an heart to perceive”, “ears to hear”, and “eyes to see” the incredible dangers of the ‘spiritual deceptions, delusions and a falling away from’ “the truth” of “the word of the LORD” that is happening ever more rapidly – RIGHT NOW
– BUT – it seems that there are ever fewer and fewer that are even aware of – OR are willing to listen and learn about that which “Jesus the Christ” personally warned would occur – and they are all now happening ever more rapidly – RIGHT NOW:
“For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. Behold, I have told you before. Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.”
(Matt 24:24-26 [KJB]) – and how much more true will all these things be
– TOMORROW, AND THE DAY AFTER THAT, AND ……. !!!!!!
Only by the Wondrous Mercy and Grace of “the LORD JEHOVAH” can I say:
“And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.” (Luke 21:28 [KJB])
Can you?
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Jay Boo says
Bro. Nick Nicholas
Why must you use so many [KJV]: notations.
It gives an impression that you are being just a bit (prideful) of being a Christian and in proselytizing.
After all, the topic here was:
“Islamic State beheads 150 women, some pregnant, for refusing to marry jihad terrorists”
Michael Copeland says
“Violence is the heart of Islam”
Ayatollah Yazdi, adviser to Ahmadinejad.
Salah says
More from Ayatollah Yazdi:
“Raping male prisoners is not considered sodomy because it is not consensual.”
http://crossmuslims.blogspot.com/2010/04/rape-and-torture-viol-et-torture.html
Don McKellar says
Where is Naomi Wolf? Has anybody gotten a statement on from her on this? Is she still an admirer of Islam? And what about the rest of the feminists? Where are they? Are they marching on the streets? Are they calling out the Islamic supremacists on their university campuses? Are they demanding that we all start speaking honestly about Islam and its oppression of women?
Did you hear that? Crickets…
Alex says
Bull’s eye. Their hypocrisy is staggering.
Auckland says
Don, the difficulty here is that many feminists are no longer focused on the oppression of women but on the subjugation of men. But if those men are… non-western-looking, oppressed, poor, etc., etc., then they either COUNT as women, or are INVISIBLE to the dominant feminist narrative. These men are a reminder about how bad our own culture has become. But IF we look at what feminism used to be about (equality, champions for womens’ rights, etc.) at the very least feminists appear to have lost their way – and the worst feminists have become cowards of the highest order.
cs says
This will change.
Angemon says
Don McKellar posted:
“Where is Naomi Wolf? Has anybody gotten a statement on from her on this? Is she still an admirer of Islam? And what about the rest of the feminists? Where are they?”
Feminists have their hands full discussing really important issues, like how catcalls are no different than rape, or the horrific micro-agressions female college students suffer on a daily basis, like male teachers using a male pronoun to refer to a writer whose gender is not known:
ninetyninepct says
The feminists are silent, therefore their silence denotes approval. This is the same silence as everyday average muslims. No protests about the horrible violence of the various islamist terrorists, therefore we have no choice but to assume they approve.
Don’t tell us ISIS and the other murderous killers are not real muslims or not acting in the name of Islam, prove it to the world by stopping ISIS, stop imams from spouting hatred and supporting jihad. Call them out. Have them jailed or deported.Show us you want to be here or don’t dare complain when we retaliate, and not through the courts if you get my drift.
particolor says
Who People Smuggled the Barbarians onto the ARK ??
martinR says
If I was to believe the Bible story of Noah, then I can only think the barbarians were carried in Noah and his family, call it original sin or God given freedom of choice…
I feel it’s genetic, base human nature. We are programmed to fear ‘the different’ ‘the other’. It takes a very strong person to remain calm and passive in the face of overwhelming odds of hate and violence and the threat of being killed. It’s the reason we have survived to this point in time, by fighting for survival in a harsh world of predators, starvation, cold, disease. To go against the built in fight or flight
Whether it be God or evolution that gave us our DNA it seems to require the Ying & Yang prey/predator paradigm, Islam fits the predator model, to me the West seems like prey with a very big stick, but lacking in the self confidence to actually decide if this predator is truly friend or foe. We just flip flop back and forward.
I can’t decide if this should be described as cowardice or is it something higher calling us and inspiring us to leave behind our animal nature, and truly become children of God.
Frank says
And where is Karin Armstrong?
gravenimage says
Don McKeller wrote:
Where is Naomi Wolf? Has anybody gotten a statement on from her on this?
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She has, it seems, been conspicuously silent on the atrocities against women in the Islamic State.
But here are some of the insane things she has had to say about Islam and women’s rights in general:
“It is not that Islam suppresses sexuality, but that it embodies a strongly developed sense of its appropriate channelling — toward marriage…”
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2009/09/feminist-leader-naomi-wolf-howls-as-her-justifications-of-islamic-misogyny-are-exposed
Does she consider the attempted forced marriages of these women—and their savage beheading when they resisted—to be an “appropriate channelling — toward marriage”, as well?
What a suicidally clueless dhimmi tool.
Islamisdeath says
Every day yet more depravity. Islam is surely a tool of satan.
Feminists say nothing because they stupidly belief their leftist gods who say that will never happen here and besides its all G Bushs fault. That latter vindicates their lack of concern, in their own eyes anyway
Barook says
When is this going to stop? Who has the capacity to stop this carnage? Why isn’t the Muslim countries/world not stepping up to the plate to put an end to this rather than depending and/or waiting on the Western powers to do their job?
Jaladhi says
Muslims are cowards – they will do nothing to stop these genocides for fear of displeasing Mo/allah!!! ISIS is doing allah’s holy work who human human blood and flesh sacrificed to him. Disgusting!!
ECAW says
It’s only just started.
As to why Muslim countries aren’t putting an end to it, for one thing I suspect that Suadi Arabia and Jordan at least dare not attack IS because they would then find out how many of their own forces would side with the enemy.
Asma Marwan says
FYI, a web site that reports the oppression of women by Islam
http://www.bulletinoftheoppressionofwomen.com
voegelinian says
That looks like a good site — sort of a Jihad Watch with a special focus on the Islamic abuse of women.
ECAW says
Yes, feminists could have done so much to help their Muslim sisters but instead decided to turn their backs on them. It will be an everlasting shame on them.
ManchesterLad says
Yes, feminists could have done so much to help their Muslim sisters but instead decided to turn their backs on them. It will be an everlasting shame on them.
I think you’ll find the left don’t do shame.
voegelinian says
Sure they do shame — massively: and always one-sided (the White Male West must be eternally ashamed).
King Dave says
“This has absolutely nothing to do with Islam!” – World’s dumbest person
somehistory says
I feel sorrow for these women and their unborn children, but at least now, they are no longer suffering. The suffering of others is yet to come. Only the True God knows how many He will allow before He takes action to end it, but I pray not many, “if possible” as Christ said of Himself (Matt. 26:39) , not ANY more.
Jaladhi says
Where are all those human rights groups say nothing about ISIS genocides And our Democrat senators who are worried about water boarding of the terrorists and condemn CIA, the people who have kept them safe since 9/11. Yet Muslims are killing people all over the world and these hypocrites say nary a word. What disgusting bunch of people among us. Maybe they should just leave USA an live with ISIS and carry out beheadings of women and children.
ninetyninepct says
They accuse the CIA but say nothing about islamist terrorists, therefore they approve of ISIS and other islamist killer terrorists. Arrests and investigation are in order. Treason?
JAMES says
A day without a beheading is a day without fun.
Islam; a misunderstood, peaceful, nonviolent religion?
GAMAL SHEHATTA says
This is not Islam at all . We Muslims condemn these practices. Islam instructs people to fight only when they are defending theselves. ISIS is merely a group of terrorists supported by the Intelligence of several western countries ,specially U.S.A , for develish interests.
Western Canadian says
Don’t you ever get tired of lying to your victims and future victims about your filthy and degenerate mockery of a religion? Don’t bother answering, we know it would just be more lies. isis and similar vermin are the true face of islam. And you know it, just as well as the regulars on this site know it.
terry says
Gamal,
Please stop this sh*t and go talk to your brothers in ISIS, Boko Haram, Al Shabab, Ansar Al Sharia, Ansar Beit Al Maqdis, Pakistan’s Taliban, Afghanistan’s Taliban, the thousands of Salafis in Egypt, Sudan Jordan, who declared their loyalty to ISIS, those in Pakistan who killed 150 children and burned a teacher alive in front of them because they are learning the stuff of “Kuffar” and the “Haram”, Man Monis, the Imam who was reading the Quran day and night and trying to convert Australians to Islam, who was behind the stabbing of his wife and then burning her alive, because she didn’t want to put on the Hijab, those religious leaders who declared in Egypt, that Copts’ women are “Halal”, a subsequent wave of abduction of young Christian and Coptic women followed, Al Shabab who every time they want to commit a terrorist act in Kenya, they separate Muslims from innocent Christians who then are either beheaded or shot in the head etc., etc., etc.
I , personally, and most of those who comment on this site know the Quran and Islam, inside out, far more than you, seriously!
Those who really seek the truth, it’s there; all they have to do is to open their hearts, minds and sincerely, whole heartedly, search, then they will find it.
pumbar says
If the story wasn’t so sad I’d laugh in your face.
gravenimage says
What grotesque Taqiyya. As Terry notes, it is not just ISIS, but Boko Haram, and Al Qaida, and huge numbers of “ordinary” Muslims. Everything the Islamic State is doing is mainstream Islam, and all on the model of the loathsome “Prophet”.
The “Prophet” took sex slaves and captives, and raped such captives himself. He also forcibly married several of them, including poor Saffiya—and “consummated” that forced marriage the night after he had murdered her husband, father, and all her male relatives.
His savage companions also murdered a woman for continuing to lament her terrible losses.
So what is being done to these poor women in the Caliphate could not be more Islamic.
The only Muslims who have voiced any opposition to ISIS are either lying to the hopeful Infidels or are afraid the ISIS threatens them or their hold on power personally—in other words, that they see them as rivals. This is, of course, a far cry from considering them evil.
Bro. Nick Nicholas says
@ GAMAL SHEHATTA – “The truth” of “the word of the LORD” inspired by “the LORD JEHOVAH” warns us about these extremely evil, wicked and increasingly demonic ‘end-of-the-end times’ in which we are living – RIGHT NOW !
The Prophet Isaiah said in the Holy Bible 5:20-21 [KJB]:
“Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
Woe unto them that are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight!”
Starting in late June or early July 2014, there has been an exponential increase in ‘demonic spiritual deception and delusion’ specifically aimed at fundamental Mohammedans {aka Moslems}, the actual followers’ of ‘the false Satanic moon-god Allah’ and his lying prophet ‘for profit’ Mohammed resulting in the absolute barbarism, viscousness and sheer malevolency of evil – all in the name of their ‘peaceful religion’ – particularly in the Mid-East, which includes North Africa (Somalia / Western Sahara) – and now spreading to India and other countries.
My personal ‘Biblical understanding’ is that what is happening is that Satanic Ritual Blood Sacrifices are knowingly being made by the ‘fundamental followers’ of Mohammedanism – specifically the many Jihadist ‘terrorist groups’ such as – IS {aka ISIS-ISIL} / the Muslim Brotherhood / Hamas / Boko Haram / Al-Qaeda / Taliban / Al-Nusra / Al- Shabob / PFLP / ADF / IDO / Jamaat-ud-Dawa / & many others
– and it has already been spreading in Europe and North America by demonically possessed ‘lone wolf’ individual fundamental Mohammedans!
Think about how many of the those that are martyred is by beheading – in which large quantities of blood is spilled – men, women, boys, girls and BABIES – especially CHRISTians and JEWS!
The Lord Jesus Christ personally told His disciples in Luke 17:1-2 [KJV] – Warning that:
“It is impossible but that offences will come: but woe unto him, through whom they come! It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones.”
“And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.”
(Gen 6:5 [KJV])
“The wicked walk on every side, when the vilest men are exalted.”
(Ps 12:8 [KJV])
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BUT – to the MANY-MANY LOST people all around the world “the Lord God Almighty” offers the “free gift” of Biblical Salvation by true belief in “Jesus the Christ”!!!
FOR “The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish,
but that all should come to repentance.”
(2 Pet 3:9 || also 1 Tim 2:4 | Ezek 18:30-32 [KJV])
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Sam says
What a disgrace that our President can stay silent facing these evil acts! Don’t tell me that he is not kept informed on what is going on in the Islamic state of ALLAH obeying bastards.
duh_swami says
Al-Libi didn’t kill those women…Allah did it, Q 8:17. Allah expects 100% compliance…or else. Maybe it’s time to evict Allah before he kills more innocent people.
Marija says
Here is transcript of this Historic Keynote Address by Gordon Duff at the International Conference on Combating Terrorism and Religious Extremist Conference held in Damascus, Syria first week of December, 2014. Gaps are where his speech was translated to listeners.
Gordon Duff: Too many people have died for people to continue speaking in terms that are unclear and just not speaking the truth.
It’s time we simply said what we know, whether it’s classified information or not.
All of you have seen the results of what we’re saying.
What we’re saying will fit what has happened here and what facts you’ve been able to bring out…
Our hypothesis is based on solid information, solid research on the ground, using human signals intelligence from our extensive capabilities.
We don’t guess.
We know what we’re talking about here.
Their motivation is largely economic.
They’re a criminal organization but they are part of a worldwide criminal organization.
And they’re here in your territory, taking your things – your factories, your lives, your people – for the enrichment of a specific group of people who need to be held to account.
It’s almost as though it’s a police problem.
This is crime.
This terrorism you’re suffering is worldwide crime on a scale we have never seen before.
There has never been anything like this.
Gordon Duff: I appreciate your statements and I recognize the truth and honesty of what you were saying but I do believe there are areas of misunderstanding how the United States works politically.
And this is a problem, a tremendous problem in the Middle East and one of the things that’s driven us here is it’s very difficult to understand what has happened as far as Israeli control of American politics and I will, as succinctly as possible, I will explain this to you.
Gordon Duff: In 2005, the Supreme Court of the United States had a decision on a case called Citizens United.
The decision of the Supreme Court legalized unlimited corporate bribery.
This turned control of the Congress of the United States over to human traffickers, narcotics traffickers and in particular, the most powerful individual in the United States today is a gambling boss named Sheldon Adelson, an Israeli citizen who fled the US living in Macau.
He spent over one billion dollars in the last election and bought control of both Houses of Congress.
Now Senator John McCain, the father of al Nusra, the father of ISIS, will be running US legislative and military foreign policy.
Gordon Duff: American generals like General McInerny and General Paul Vallely, specialists in psychological warfare, helped organize Daish.
They have traveled in and out of your country here, Syria, over and over, as had Senator John McCain.
Meeting with al Qaeda – an organization created by the American, Saudi and Israeli Defense Forces and Intelligence Services.
Gordon Duff: Only a week ago, the US Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel, resigned.
Chuck Hagel was the individual that stopped the United States from bombing Syria over the false flag gas attacks near Aleppo.
Gordon Duff: It was our organization here that supplied the intelligence that stopped those attacks.
Gordon Duff: It’s our goal here, while we are here, to try to establish a method of communication that will allow Syria and other nations within the area to understand Israel’s control of the US, the control of the US by organized crime and how the US government is subservient to a worldwide criminal organization. http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/12/13/historic-speech-in-damascus-sends-shockwaves-around-the-world/
gravenimage says
What a load. The idea that Jihadists’ motives are primarily economic are false—they are primarily ideological. Muslim love looting and pillaging Infidels, but this is not their main motive.
And while many clueless dhimmis in the West have naïvely done a great deal to enable Islam, the idea that people like John McCain *created* al Qaida, al Nusra, and the Islamic State is utter crap.
This is mainstream Islam, and much predates our current crop of witless politicians in the West.
And notice his kicker—that along with Western military and politicians that Jihad was created by “Israeli Intelligence Services”—in other words, by the Jooooooooos.
Far from this stupidity “sending shockwaves” around the world, it is just more of the same antisemitic and West-hating bullsh*t.
pongidae rex says
This has the desired effect of creating masses of Islamic migrants, all headed to Western countries. Anyone who does not think this mass creation of refugees is calculated is naive. Western leaders do not comprehend the profound cynicism, nor the relentless patience, of Muslim strategic thinking. The willingness of Western nations to accept refugees is perceived as weakness, and weakness is always exploited in Islam. Always.
islamisdeath says
I totally agre. Imam Obama says nothing because he knows this is an excuse to import more of these flesh eating vermin to our countries. He is delighted!
particolor says
HEAR ! HEAR !!
Charli Main says
This is one of the most accurate and knowledgeable post I have read in a while.
You NEVER see any of these ” poor Muslim refugees” and ” poor Muslim asylum seekers” swarming into the mega rich Gulf States or the Muslim homeland of Saudi Arabia.
No, they are all swarming into the infidel countries of the ” West” and the first thing they do, is to start turning the country that has rehomed them into a copy of the Muslim shithole they ran away from. ie carrying out the specific instructions given to them in the Koran.
Unlike other immigrant communities, grateful for the chance of a new life in the “West” the only objective of Muslim ” immigrants” is to destroy the culture and society of the people that have taken them in.
MUSLIMS DON’T IMMIGRATE, MUSLIMS INVADE.
voegelinian says
The use of Islamic refugees (i.e., immigrants) is not merely as a testament to our weakness. They are actually performing functions for the 3-pronged Jihad (Demographic Jihad, Stealth Jihad, and Violent Jihad). All three prongs working in tandem are necessary to bring down a civilization as vast, sophisticated and complex as the West. In my estimation, Muslims won’t be able to succeed in their perennial desideratum — but even in failing to succeed, they will be able to wreak horrific casualties against us in the coming decades. They will be more able to do so, the longer the West stumbles pleasantly around in circles with its pants around its ankles and its privy member in its hand. Meanwhile, as pongidae rex reminds us, Muslims have patience, much more patience than we have. While it may seem on the surface that they are just gibbering baboons, slaves to the immediate gratification of rapine, it would be a serious mistake on our part to only focus on that — only on the stabbing, shooting, beheading, burning, rioting, exploding Muslims, and neglect to factor in the majority of Muslims who are ostensibly behaving relatively normally as they stream into our societies and burrow in as taxi cab drivers, store clerks, students, engineers, nurses, doctors, lawyers (“barristers” for the Limeys), politicians, policemen and women, airport baggage handlers, office clerks, actors/producers/directors/writers in films and television; and so forth.
But not to worry: as our Jihad Watch Softies tell us, the vast majority of Muslims in the West are somehow magically harmless (and magically delicious).
Charli Main says
“and neglect to factor in the majority of Muslims who are ostensibly behaving relatively normally as they stream into our societies and burrow in as taxi cab drivers, store clerks, students, engineers, nurses, doctors, lawyers (“barristers” for the Limeys), politicians, policemen and women, airport baggage handlers, office clerks, actors/producers/directors/writers in films and television; and so forth.”
Indeed, Voeg:
Western Dhimmis AKA Muslim arse kissers and rabid Muslim apologists appear to be totally ignorant of or deliberately ignore the fact that Muslims are trained, almost from birth, in the art of MURUNA.
MURUNA: Blending in with the enemy or surroundings to decieve Kaffirs.
voegelinian says
That’s a new one for me. I’ll have to look up “muruna”. Very interesting; thanks.
Angemon says
Aren’t you afraid that learning about stealth jihad will get in your “deride counter-jihadis” time?
gravenimage says
Charli and Voeg, here’s more on Muruna—sometimes spelled “Maruna”. It is a variant of “Darura”, but more elective, so to speak:
“Muruna
“Flexibility”.
Means blending in with the enemy or the surroundings…
Thus, Muslims may “forget” some of the commands in the Quran (or Sharia), as long as they are pursuing a better command. Muslims striving to advance Islam, therefore, can deviate from the Islamic laws if doing so will facilitate Islam in some way. At times, some Muslims practice Muruna in the same way a chameleon changes colours – to avoid detection. Muslims will sometimes shave off their beards, wear western clothing, or even drink alcohol to blend in with non-Muslims. (The 9/11 hijackers visited strip clubs and bars during their off-times while taking classes in the U.S. to fly aeroplanes into the World Trade Centre, the Pentagon, and the White House.)”
http://www.islam-watch.org/authors/165-jon-mc/1530-some-islamic-doctrines.html
We’ve all certainly noted this phenomenon.
Walid Shoebat also talks about Muruna here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9LorjF1ZF4
And more good stuff from PJ Media, here:
http://pjmedia.com/blog/muruna-violating-sharia-to-fool-the-west/
This last article is especially important because it clearly shows that the Sunni claim that they do not use Taqiyya because Taqiyya is a purely Shi’ite concept is false—this is all included in the concept of Muruna.
Oliver says
Why aren’t these “immigrants” and refugees from Iraq and Syria being welcocmed into fellow Muslim countires, like their “palestinian brothers and sisters” were when Israel was created (May 1947), isstead of being kept in camps and crowded areas like Israel has done with jews from around the world since May 1947?
( anyone with intelligence knows the Israel/Muslim set up is the exact opposite).
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As to Jordan and Saudi Arabia-there was-I think on JW- an item about ISIS support in Jordan. In S. A.- the supporters would probably jsut be executed-which, in my view, is probably a good idea.
Bridget Ames says
May their souls rest in peace. It would be a difficult choice to make but choosing death seems like it would be the better choice.
bobm says
apparently China is moving to ally with Iran to fight isis etc… what the HELL is everyone else doing flying around in the clouds.?
Wolfgang says
its OK Tony Abbott will fix it…….he has it all under control…..after all Isis is not Islam is it ? as he tells me…..
Wolfgang says
Abbott will be ” shirt fronting ” any malcontents…
particolor says
Is it a Bird ? Is it a Plane ?? No ! its The SPEEDO KID !!
Kevin Walker says
Where was Tessa Kum?? She didn’t offered to ride with these poor women. Bloody hypocrites.
terry says
It’s amazing to see to what degree of stupidity we arrived at, in the west!
The mere anticipation of an imaginary and unlikely backlash against Muslims, after multiple terrorist acts on western countries soil, in a short period of time, carried out by devout Muslims, based clearly on the teachings of the Quran and Sunnah, is strong enough to mobilise thousands of non Muslim westerners to show solidarity and deep empathy for Muslims.
Meanwhile, when thousands of innocent Christians, adults and children alike, in Iraq, Syria, Egypt, Sudan, Kenya, Nigeria, Ethiopia, Somalia, Pakistan, are overtly persecuted, killed, beheaded, imprisoned, displaced from their homes, their property and life savings seized, their wives, daughters, sisters, mothers raped or taken in as slaves, their churches systemically destroyed, I never hear about any “I’ll ride with you” or something similar campaign, in the west!
Really, It’s a messed up world!
profitsbeard says
These women had the misfortune not to be killed by Christians or Israelis or Hindus.
Then the world leftoid media machine would be up in arms crying THE HORROR, THE HORROR!
If Islam does it, though, you get ….crickets….
Arthur says
Apparently, marriage is not compulsory in the same way the conversion to Islam is not compulsory. You can always choose to die instead.
gravenimage says
Bitterly true, Arthur.
terry says
“You can always choose to die instead.”
Arthur, that’s a brilliant way to put it!
Carolyn says
Obviously in Islam culture women are property. However, they have God given free will and some choose to die instead of being dehumanized. God help them, and God help the barbarians who are killing these women. Thank God I live in the U.S. because as a woman, with my mouth I would not live one day in an Islamic ruled country. God knows what he is doing. He is in charge of the eternal fate of those barbarians, and their destination will be a very hot fire in hell.
gravenimage says
Islamic State beheads 150 women, some pregnant, for refusing to marry jihad terrorists
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Bloody barbarians. The Islamic State is the naked face of Islam.
I will keep these poor, brave women in my prayers.
duh_swami says
The true face of Islam keeps showing itself…Islam has a thin veil over pure fury, and often the veil slips and the filth becomes visible. Like in these mass killings of innocents. There are several titles for Allah, The Lord of Darkness, The Lord of Matter, the Lord of Evil, and the Lord of Ugly among others. Put those together in a pan, and you have ‘fecal soup’. FS is bad for your health, it’s a product of the sewer and should be returned there as soon as possible.
Joe Fabittes says
Where are the photos of this genocide? As others have quoted the words of Stalin that “a single death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic”, photos of these horrendous acts are sure to help move people to an understanding that each one of these deaths is a tragedy.
gravenimage says
Joe, the Islamic State is not a standard war zone, dangerous as they may be. Remember that the Islamic State has been beheading journalists. It’s not as though AP and the WSJ and AFP have journalists regularly stationed there.
One of the first things to go by the wayside has been the availability of photographic and video footage.
martinR says
Not having a television I can only watch news online. Can anyone else see if the BBC have reported this massacre?
Surely the BBC can’t so blatantly censor news regarding IS atrocities.
And also, is it absolutely known that it happened, if so few media sources carry it, can it really have happened?
(see what I did there?)
DiMu says
Radical Islam should be viewed as identical to the Totalitarian Ideologies of the 20th century – Nazism and Communism. It is not important WHAT they believe, it’s important that they wish to force their ideology on the world where it becomes the instrument of tyrannical oppression.
We are building up to a messier world war than WW2, because now the enemy is in our midst. We ought to be defeating them trough legislation outlawing the incitement to Radical Jihad- which would ban the Koran and put all the mams in danger of prosecution, and justify the closing down of ever single mosque – UNLESS, they remove the offensive verses. That would be a start!
Lioness says
And who is going to stop Islam? Imam Obama? He is busy preaching against Islamophobia.
voegelinian says
Virtually all Western leaders are protecting Islam (and perforce protecting Muslims) and preaching against Islamophobia. Not only that, but virtually the entire mental infrastructure of the West (news media, academe, entertainment media) is also protecting Islam and preaching against Islamophobia. And if all that is not bad enough, there are massive indications that most of the Ordinary People of the West are acquiescing in this not for negative reasons (any one or more, or all, of the Esdrujula Elves — Stupidity, Timidity, Placidity, Flaccidity, Tepidity, Torpidity) but rather for the positive reasons which the fashionable worldview of PC MC provides — chief among which is the ego-strokes of ethical narcissism in knowing with comfort that one is “not bigoted”.
Anne says
Yes, Voege, it’s the self stroking, moral superiority of finding ‘victims’ and defending them. The more vigorous the defence the more heroic the defender. The irony that Islam is a supremacist doctrine is lost on them.
This generation don’t value Freedom. They’ve never had to fight for it.
Free Speech says
Islamofauxbia?
Alexius Comnenus says
I am glad you among those real Americans who see the sad truth! The Isis cannot be separated by islam in no way! This is not part of any other so called religion other than islam.
The islam is doing this to the rest of the world since the its inception 7th century.
And America had become a harlot under musobama. This man will continue to destroy America. My question is ;how many years will be needed to bring America back.
HaHa says
Lol.. It was America that funded Isis and gave them weapons to fight in Syria and Iraq. It’s an American invention just like Osama Bin Laden and his team was. Oh! and that includes the Taliban too. Americans need to stop pointing fingers and start taking credit for what we started. Now we have to go clean up this mess. And no Islam is not to blame. War is what man does. Regardless of religion or race. It’s all business and unfortunately propaganda is a part of the game and no one does it better then the USA.
Erl william says
Germany under the Nazi government did not have the ideology that their captives male or female had to then in turn become Nazi’s or sex slaves while raping of women by soldiers no doubt would have taken place at times they would be court marshaled it was punishable as a crime. No women were forced as a policy to become sex slaves or marry German soldiers in occupied countries as say Ukraine though I am understood some developed relations with the local women as they were considered as liberators by the locals from the harsh Soviet Russian masters whom in about 1933 had over 4,000,000 stave to death. Certainly the jews in the once Soviet countries were rounded up and shot and buried in pits by the Germans. Often the killing in the Baltic Countries took place by the locals before the Germans arrived
Oliver says
Nazi Germany did make women field whores- basically sex slaves. Some were good looking Jewish women;l others were from the occupied countries.
One of my friends used to have a client, in his business, who was one of them. (She was blond hair; blue eyed, and svelte, as a young woman; was a field whore for Nazi soldiers).
One of the top Nazis (I forgot who, i read this in high school, decades ago)- when he was in Paris, after taking France, a subordinate said to him that there were no good looking women at that (particular time)-so he is supposed to said, bring me a good looking boy.
The difference between the Nazis and ISIS is probably in degrees of evil.
Jay Boo says
?????
Oliver,
What is the point: — of Erl William’s comment and your reply?
The vile butcher knife / slave trade religion of Islam fully supports the concept of sex slaves and beheadings.
Islam pretends to be an honorable religion.
ISLAM IS FILTH
Frank says
Ra&dical islam. This means there is also a non-radical islam. “No way, says” erdogan, turkisch president, “there is only one islam”. Draw your conclusion.
Free Speech says
Apparently, Erdogan needs to consult with the Holy Trinity of Islamoexplainers, Obama, Cameron and Abbot. They’ll set his dumb ass straight.
voegelinian says
Yes, “radical Islam” is not only redundant, it is part of the general PC MC Meme that is endangering our lives. One wonders why there are still people in the Counter-Jihad (and in order to be “in the Counter-Jihad” the minimum you need to do is post a generally anti-Islam comment — even one that apparently, and apparently anxiously, distinguishes a preposterous “radical Islam” from Islam straight no chaser — on a Counter-Jihad forum such as this one — but hey, we’re easy) such as “DiMu” earnestly communicating that redundancy. I mean hey, it’s not like we’re sitting here at 9:18 a.m. on September 11, 2001 (i.e., 15 minutes after the second plane hit); it’s nearly fifteen motherfreaking years later. Can’t we do better?
chanah says
There’s no such thing as radical islam, there is islam and that’s it
Cindy says
These people are so freaking sick!!!!! I can’t wait till Jesus comes and sets thr world straight. When HE puts an end to the muslim terror group that keep killing innocent women and even small children. They kill babies too. They are the sickest people I have ever seen. Who kills babies , or beheads children and then kicks the head around. Or letting 5 yr. old kids holding up the head of dead men?? This is gross and Ineeds to be put to a stop!!!!!!
frank says
Jesus setting the situation straight, while he had himself be slaughterd like a lamb (that’s how he is often referred to also). I don’t think so. I think western (christian) culture is heading for the same destiny, apoligizing and forgiving at the cross, while dying.
Wolfgang says
You really are in a league by yourself aren’t you ? top 17 ? very funny …….deportation ? get real !, won’t happen ! dream on.
How would you deport them eh ?……. fulminate !, you love big words huh ? so ok since when did God die and put you in charge ?.
I live in hope that one day you will come down from the smug aloofness and decide to treat posters on here who are supposed to be on the same side as you with some respect credit, but apparently not anytime soon.
Jay Boo says
Wolfgang did you notice that frank (with small ‘f’) can’t even use his own moniker and has copied one of another on this same thread?
He must be a troll.
He is more concerned with promoting an anti-Christian agenda than confronting Islamic atrocities. Also notice, that he made no effort to also mention the atrocities that Cindy listed.
If he is not a Muslim, rest assured that he will eagerly bow in sycophant subservience to Islam if given an opportunity to grovel.
chanah says
Shalom frank
JESUS /GOD, will have the last say
30 Therefore prophesy thou against them all these words, and say unto them, Jehovah will roar from on high, and utter his voice from his holy habitation; he will mightily roar against his fold; he will give a shout, as they that tread the grapes, against all the inhabitants of the earth.
31 A noise shall come even to the end of the earth; for Jehovah hath a controversy with the nations; he will enter into judgment with all flesh: as for the wicked, he will give them to the sword, saith Jehovah.
32 Thus saith Jehovah of hosts, Behold, evil shall go forth from nation to nation, and a great tempest shall be raised up from the uttermost parts of the earth.
33 And the slain of Jehovah shall be at that day from one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth: they shall not be lamented, neither gathered, nor buried; they shall be dung upon the face of the ground.
34 Wail, ye shepherds, and cry; and wallow in ashes, ye principal of the flock; for the days of your slaughter and of your dispersions are fully come, and ye shall fall like a goodly vessel.
35 And the shepherds shall have no way to flee, nor the principal of the flock to escape.
36 A voice of the cry of the shepherds, and the wailing of the principal of the flock! for Jehovah layeth waste their pasture.
Gary Snail says
Jehovah separated the Jews from the peoples of the middle east, because Jehovah detested the human sacrifice practices of the middle easterners. Jehovah gave the laws to Moses, in it human sacrifice is forbidden, and God only allowed animal sacrifice for the atonement for sins.
Jesus came as a self sacrifice to mankind, where he bore the sins of the world upon the cross. The curtain in the temple was torn bringing an end to animal sacrifice. Now to remember this sacrifice of Christ, Christians are to break bread and drink wine in remembrance as symbols of his body and blood.
Islam is the continuance of the middle eastern traditions. Human sacrifice for the atonement of sins. Human sacrifice for attaining special privileges in jallalah (72 virgins). Human sacrifices over the graves of jihadists, meaning the sacrificial will become his servants in jallalah. Capturing woman as sex slaves. Making the kafir a slave to the muslims. Eating the flesh of their enemies. Eating the flesh of those they have sacrificed to allah………..
These are all old pagan traditions of human sacrifice, butchery and slavery.
Christ came, and ended this. There is no need to kill another human being so you can get to heaven (or jallalah), or otherwise slaves/servants. There is no reason to eat the flesh of the sacrificial person…………
Christ is the fulfillment – no human sacrifice, and no eating flesh. Christ is the sacrifice, and bread and wine is consumed in remembrance of this !
stan says
Jesus is not coming
particolor says
Until next Wednesday !! He Missed His flight !!
Maher says
says who ?
I don’t believe that reporter .
ecosse1314 says
As the old saying goes when lost at sea ….”pray to God but row for shore”
Edward says
“Every day yet more depravity. Islam is surely a tool of satan.” – Islamisdeath says,
December 17, 2014 at 2:22 pm
“Allah is Satan”: is what The name Allah is derived from the Hebrew Chaldea word Halal which is the NAME OF SATAN in the scriptures in Isaiah 14.12, “How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer (HALAL), son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!” Please read this essay in its entirety @
http://biblocality.com/forums/showthread.php?909-Allah-is-Satan
Note: This essay has been somewhat prophetic for it seems, it has been posted since 06-02-2006, 01:44 PM
I have tried a google search to find a specific prayer to help end these wicked events that are now being exposed here at Jihad Watch. Perhaps, no one has ever thought that we, in these modern times
would witness such tragedies again….nothing happening like, say in the middle ages or as late as in the 1915 Ottoman Empire’s Armenian genocides.
The closest prayer to meet the intent of this prayer…..I have edited its wording to change the me or I to “we” for plurality sake. A prayer, in the hopes of changing the ultra wicked maligned mindsets of these savage perpetrators.
A Prayer to Defeat the Work of Satan
O Divine Eternal Father, in union with your Divine Son and the Holy Spirit, and through the Immaculate Heart of Mary, we beg You to destroy the Power of your greatest enemy – the evil spirits.
Cast them into the deepest recesses of hell and chain them there forever! Take possession of your Kingdom which You have created and which is rightfully yours.
Heavenly Father, give us the reign of the Sacred Heart of Jesus and the Immaculate Heart of Mary.
We repeat this prayer out of pure love for You with every beat of our hearts and with every breath we take.
Amen
Alexius Comnenus says
Amen Brother/Sister. Amen
no-god-is-good says
Oh Allah! protect me from your followers.
Crusader says
Allah is Satan and Mohammed his messenger.
Exorcism revisited:
VITO HALASAN says
The facts ALLAH didnt say in KORAN any words ” if somebody to refuse, they should be killed.” what is the basis why they killed them, They are not their wives but slaves, it is very clear now those ISIL are ignorant of their laws as provided by their leaders. ” EVERY ISIL MUST HAVE READ THE KORAN FIRST AFTER EXECUTING”…THOSE evil spirits overcome their soul…
gravenimage says
This is all perfectly Islamic. Pretending it is not is nothing but Taqiyya. And *of course* these women are slaves, not wives—they have refused to “marry” these Jihadists. That is the whole point.
And forced marriage is extremely common in Islam—in many parts of the Muslim world, it is the norm, and any woman or girl refusing, even Muslimahs, may be killed with impunity if they resist. This is, in fact, the most common reason for “Honor Killings”.
voegelinian says
These numbingly grotesque, frequent, and escalating atrocities perpetrated by Mohammedans in various parts of the world as the years stagger on after 911 elicit a variety of responses from Westerners.
Before we get to that, we may briefly point out that the vast and diverse category of Westerners may be subdivided into 1) those who more or less get the problem of Islam, and 2) those who apparently don’t get the problem of Islam. We may furthermore note, with beleaguered & bitter realism, that #1 apparently represents the vast majority.
For that vast majority who don’t get it, such Mohammedan atrocities du jour as this one, the effect & response is tediously and aggravatingly routine: The prevailing TMOE meme (that the only problem is a Tiny Minority of Extremists — not Islam nor the vast majority of Muslims — and that anyone who insists differently must be a “bigot”, a “hater” and a “racist”) is strengthened. With each fresh atrocity Muslims perpetrate, the West bends over backward to respect and whitewash Islam more, not less.
In that tiny and ill-organized nucleus of the West known informally as the “Counter-Jihad”, meanwhile – the Avis Rent-a-Car of the West (“We’re #2 so we try harder”) — there is more variety of response. While generally speaking variety is the spice of life, when one is trying to galvanize and organize a sociopolitical Movement about a protracted train wreck of a dire catastrophe — especially when our own Mainstream tends to be against us — such variety can be counter-productive (he said calmly, trying maturely to control his Lewis-Black-like aggravation & fury).
The variety of response in the Counter-Jihad to Mohammedan atrocities also subdivides along the fault line of PC MC: there are those in the Counter-Jihad who for all their bluster and braggadocio (or, as in the case of a Daniel Pipes, sober analysis), still retain enough residues of the PC MC virus to look at the problem in terms of the TMOE meme. The only difference between them and the mainstream PC MC is that for them the “MOE” (the Minority of Extremists) is larger – but it’s still a Minority, and it’s still “Extremists”, with the majority of Muslims deemed by them to be “ignorant of their own Islam” or “too afraid to speak up” etc. (i.e., Moderate Muslims under different, more palatable labels). Closely related to this, these Counter-Jihadists tend to fixate on Islam as the problem, rather than on the Muslims who put Islam into bloody (or, in the case of Stealth Jihad, deceitful) practice. These Counter-Jihadists who still retain residues of PC MC in their hearts and minds I term “asymptotics”. They seem to be the majority.
The Counter-Jihadists left over do not believe in any taxonomy of Muslims and are comfortable saying that all Muslims are the problem, without fretting anxiously (as their Counter-Jihadist colleagues apparently do) that this will somehow trigger their Inner Evil White Westerner to start twitching in the direction of rounding up Muslims, putting them in camps, and genociding them all.
After this main subdivision, there are more subdivisions – most of them among the asymptotics:
The conspiracy theorists (or the “Real-Problemers” as I have termed them, after their apparent belief that the “real problem” behind the problem of Islam is some Western Cabal of Evil Elites who are manipulating Muslims and cynically “radicalizing” them in order to further their own Evil Western Elitist ambitions for nefarious, Bond-villain-with-an-eyepatch-stroking-a-white-cat-in-his-lap-whilst-megalomaniacally-laughing power);
the Christian apocalypticists, who seem convinced that this latest outbreak of Mohammedan jihad will somehow be the last, presaging the Second Coming (even though Mohammedans have been jihading for 1,400 years with no eschatological End in sight) – often joined at the hip with a Christian Wilsonian hope that Muslims will convert to Christianity in numbers sufficient to ameliorate if not solve the problem their Islam is causing the world;
the Softies who advocate supposedly no-nonsense robust measures that – much like the analysis & advice of typical State Dept. “Counter-Terrorism Experts” — seem strangely out of synch with the horrific dimensions of the actual problem;
the Harder Softies who, in terms of their specific policy recommendations, seem even more robust (e.g., Robert Spencer), but whose robustness still seems ill-matched to the actual dimensions of the problem, apparently predicated upon a neo-Wilsonianist expectation that Muslims will reform in numbers sufficient to ameliorate if not solve the problem their Islam is causing the world;
Genocidal maniacs who want to kill all Muslims (or Muslims in general in some mass sense);
a more amorphous sub-demographic who seem content to pound their fists and beat their heads against the wall and fulminate about “damn Muzzies” (salted and peppered with jokes about pigs and bacon), sometimes boasting that Americans with guns will solve the problem, but who never seem to have any specific recommendations nor any sense of what exactly is the nature of the problem.
Then there’s the rest of us – all 17 of us – who realize the problem is of a sufficient magnitude and nature that nothing less than total deportation (and subsequent international quarantine) will suffice to address the dimensions of that nature and magnitude.
Oliver says
Mr. Voe,
i think ( first two or three paragraphs) you have the Numbers 1 & 2 reversed.
You have as 1- those who get the problem and 2- those who do not. That is fine. but you then say that the majority of people are in category 1–I think you mean the vast majority are the second group.
voegelinian says
yes Oliver thanks
voegelinian says
Woops — my #1 near the beginning should have been #2…
Jay Boo says
voegelinian
Some interesting insights.
I do not see how referring to Robert Spenser as one of the “Harder Softies ” would be part of the solution though.
What would be the voegelinian plan of action, I wonder?
gravenimage says
There is certainly a measure of good analysis in your post, Voeg—although, no surprise to you, I’m sure—I consider it rather too dismissive of Anti-Jihadists in general.
One point in particular, though—when has Robert Spencer *ever* said that he expects some sort of mass reform of Muslims? He has, in fact, constantly made if clear that any reform of Islam itself is virtually impossible, and you aren’t going to find any actual reform of Muslims without that.
Free Speech says
Death to Islam.
Crusader says
MESSAGE ALERT!: to all the dumb dumb dhimmis in the Demoncat party:
This is what a real “War on Womlen” looks like.
If only Obama hated Islamic crazies more than he hates the Republicans and America.
Jae M says
Rabid dogs have more of a conscience than these demon possessed soldiers. Just think of how horrific they are that women would die rather than having to marry them. Notice also how they pick the most defenseless of victims. Cowards. The more depraved they become, the more they expose the evil of the doctrines they uphold.
jo says
Pure BS
Bro. Nick Nicholas says
@ jo – For even more of the inhumane barbarism and atrocities of ‘ISIS’ –
ISIS “Sex Pamphlet” Approves Pedophilia, Sex Slavery | By Lea Speyer Dec 19, 2014 , 9:00 am
http://www.breakingisraelnews.com/26017/isis-sex-pamphlet-approves-pedophilia-sex-slavery/?utm_source=Breaking+Israel+News&utm_campaign=01eac3996a-BIN+Email&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_b6d3627f72-01eac3996a-86431625#DYPemu0vilDpgXwS.97
“The word of the LORD” warns us about these times in which we are living in Isaiah 5:20-21 [KJB]:
“Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil;
that put darkness for light, and light for darkness;
that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
Woe unto them that are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight!”
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gravenimage says
Jo wrote:
Pure BS.
………………………..
Another apologist who would have us believe that all the atrocities of the Islamic State—many bragged about by the Jihadists themselves, and committed on Islamic grounds—are just made up by “Islamophobes” to “make Islam look bad”.
The fact is—how inconvenient for Jo and other Muslim apologists—is that all these stories are covered by mainstream, reputable news sources.
BlueRaven says
Is there any reasn not to drop N-bomb on ISIS unless you are a sympahathiser to the Islamic State?
Thnk you Mr. ObaImama. I hope the history will judge you correctly.
Gordan Finch says
It is time to stop the lies about many Muslims and expose them for what they are, (religious fanatics) with an hatred of Kaffirs (whites) from the western world.
They are very good at pretending they like us and our way of live, but secretly they have a plan to create a Muslim World without ( Western Influence or Laws). By creating an Island of Muslims within an Island Country – County or State
Muslims have created this Island society in our midst, taking profit from us but giving nothing back- keeping profit and business amongst Muslims only. ( when did you last profit from a Muslim).
It is we,- Who allowed them into our country to enjoy the freedom and democracy to live amongst us peacefully.
Yet in return they kill and defile children and much worse,while ranting we are the enemy of Islam.
Then often we hear news that the Moderate Muslims denounce attacks by Muslim Fanatics. Yet it is these same officials from (the Mosques) claiming that they are peaceful followers of religion. Who state openly they (meaning Muslims) must take a Kaffirs life before death and must not give profit to Kaffirs. But instead create an island society from within, to take over control for Muslims?
These Muslims, wellcomed by us with open arms, are not a minority group in our midst. There are now huge numbers of illegals. You do not need concocted figures from Government- to realise millions live in our towns and cities illegally, committing crime on an unprecedented scale.
Bro. Nick Nicholas says
@ Gordan Finch – ‘Kafir’ is a word that is commonly used for all – whether we are Caucasian, Oriental, Black, American Indian, Latino, Indian, etc – who deny the false Satanic ‘moon-god Allah’ and his lying prophet ‘for profit’ Mohammed, my understanding primarily by those that are really fundamental (fanatic) followers of Mohammedanism, of which there are only a small percentage that truly are ‘fundamental’ in their demonic beliefs.
It is estimated that over 50% of the medical specialists in the South-Eastern US where I live are Muslims. My cardiologist of several years is a very personable, caring and competent moderate Muslim, and we have had a few cordial conversations about Christianity.
I am personally very fundamental in my ‘Biblical CHRISTian’ faith.
I have been praying for him and his Moslem family for several years – AND for the MANY-MANY “lost” folks everywhere in the world to accept the “free gift” of Biblical Salvation by true belief in “Jesus the Christ” – for it is written in “the word of the God” that:
“The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.”
(2 Pet 3:9 || also 1 Tim 2:4 | Ezek 18:30-32 [KJB])
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