Another inexpert “expert.”
“We need to think about the reintegration of a number of people involved in these terrorist activities, but after the rehabilitation process.”
Rehabilitation process? When has that ever worked? In reality, deradicalization programs, upon which the West has placed so much hope, have long been an obvious failure. Such programs are based on the premise that the true teachings of Islam are peaceful, and so all that needs to be done is show the jihadis how they’re misunderstanding the Qur’an and overlooking its teachings of peace, and all will be well. But since the Qur’an and Sunnah are full of commands to make war against and subjugate unbelievers, the idea that jihadis can be “deradicalized” by reference to them is just a myth told to Infidel authorities to lull them into complacency.
Deradicalization programs have been implemented elsewhere, notably in Indonesia and Saudi Arabia. Let’s look at how they fared. From the Jihad Watch archives:
Gitmo prisoner reveals: Saudi “deradicalization program” is really a jihad training program
11 ex-Gitmo prisoners flee the Saudi “rehabilitation program” and join up with terrorist groups
Jaw-dropper: 25 former Gitmo detainees “return to militancy” despite Saudi rehab program!
Flight 253 jihadist wasn’t cured by Saudi anti-jihad art therapy
Former Guantanamo detainee now top al-Qaeda ideologue — “He was transferred to Saudi Arabia in 2006 where he was placed in a national rehabilitation project.”
Indonesian government admits that its jihadist rehab program is a failure
Malaysia: Muslim cleric active in deradicalization program promotes hatred of non-Muslims
France’s only jihadi “deradicalization” center is closing — it was voluntary, and it was empty
Voronkov continued: “…and these two processes are very difficult but very important in order to achieve the final goal to exclude terrorism from the international agenda.”
Good luck with that, tovarisch, but when the “international community” refuses even to acknowledge the motivating ideology behind jihad terrorism, you aren’t likely to accomplish it.
“UN Official Calls for Reintegration of Daesh Family Members Into Society,” Sputnik News, December 15, 2018 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):
MOSCOW (Sputnik) – Vladimir Voronkov, the head of the UN Office of Counter-Terrorism, called on the international community on 15 December to solve the issue of reintegration of relatives of the members of the Daesh* terrorist group into society.
“We need to think about the reintegration of a number of people involved in these terrorist activities, but after the rehabilitation process, and these two processes are very difficult but very important in order to achieve the final goal to exclude terrorism from the international agenda,” Voronkov stated at the Doha Forum 2018 in Qatar, adding that it was necessary to show that there was a way forward for those people….
Voronkov revealed that his office was preparing a handbook on the best practices in the counterterrorism field.…
Singh The Sikh says
‘Great’ idea from the UN. While at it, let’s also rehabilitate and reintegrate murderers and serial killers back into society. Let’s not forget paedophiles.
Why stop with just the Muslim terrorists?
b.a. freeman says
+1, Singh!
and BTW, aren’t the folks in *both* groups U name the same people?
😀
Battle says
Four of every five mosques are not pacifist.
Dave Huff says
And the fifth one is questionable….
Anjuli Pandavar says
Mr Voronkov,
Just a few questions for clarification, please.
Which society, exactly, do you have in mind? Pakistan, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Yemen, Qatar, Sudan. If you mean these, then yes, no problem. We understand and agree. They should feel pretty much at home there. It would just help if you spelt that out, else some highly-unsuitable societies, such as, say, Canada or France, might make the mistake of welcoming them there. I’m sure you will appreciate just how upsetting it will be to those countries’ Muslim communities, all well-integrated, to end up with such unsavoury characters in their midst. It wouldn’t be fair, now, would it?
Westman says
Voronkov: “Get my new book, ‘How To Make Muslim jihadis Love Kafirs’, soon on sale at the UN bookshop.”
The only way these jihadis will be “rehabilitated” is through communist-style “re-education” camps where they either conform or never leave. And that is beyond the stomach of the cry-baby, “let’s save them even if it kills us and give them a Quran, halal food, and anything they demand”, UN/liberal crowd.
A wolf will calmly eat offered food before moving on to attack the offerer. One wonders why so many blockheads rise to important positions in governments and the UN?
Terry Gain says
Wonder? It’s a prerequisite.
sidney penny says
rehabilitation in China.
They have great programs
Terry Gain says
I am all in favour of this on two conditions.
1. The attempted reintegration should occur in areas controlled by ISIS.
2. The reintegration must be led by experts in this field including Vladimir Voronkov, Justin Trudeau, Theresa May and hopefully Barack and Michelle Obama and Hillary Clinton.
Sam says
+1
Mike Vee says
What event has caused so many cultures to believe in suicide? History is replete with documented cultures being destroyed by those who they welcomed into their midst. Send them back to the hell hole from which they came. Charity begins at home.
Walter Sieruk says
The very idea of having any kind of successful “rehabilitation” program for the jihadist of ISIS is outright folly. This is because those violent, dangerous and deadly ISIS/jihadists are so thoroughly indoctrinated , brainwashed and ingrained in the jihad –mindset of violence and killing that they cannot be helped , straightened out and turned in “peaceful men.”
As the philosopher Immanuel Kant had written “Out of the crooked timber of humanity no straight thing can be made.” Likewise, the ancient Greek playwright, Aristophanes, wrote “Even the wisest of the wise can never make a crab walk straight.”
gravenimage says
UN counterterror top dog calls for “rehabilitation” of ISIS jihadis and their “reintegration” into Western societies
……………………….
Suicidal insanity. This has *never* worked.
Vladimir Voronkov also gives the lie to the idea that all Russians are hard-headed when it comes to Jihad terrorism, and never engage in appeasement of Islam.
Ernie says
Mr. Voronkov is giving this advice , “reintegration” into WESTERN COUNTRIES , BECAUSE HE WANTS THE WEST DESTROYED . Is that so hard to understand ? HE IS A RUSSIAN , and Russian politics are quite hostile against The Western World these days ( again ) . The globalists U.N. has the same agenda : Destroy the Western World .
gravenimage says
That might be part of it–certainly, christianblood who posts here has said many times that he wants to see Muslims conquer the West.
Sam says
I really feel like I am in another planet when I hear these Islam enablers.
When I wonder in the world of history nations brought their enemies home to rehabilitate them?
somehistory says
The U.N. is nothing more than an I.N. or M.N. org.
Full of islamic nations and nothing more than a group of moslim nations trying to rule the earth with their evil. …”united” in their goals. Very few non moslim nations and many of those allowing moslims to take over their decision making.
It is no surprise that this “top dog”…wouldn’t a moslim appreciate being called that…would be in favor of allowing known terrorists by the thousands to re-enter their home countries…esp western countries… in order to carry on their objectives.
Jayell says
“UN counterterror top dog calls for “rehabilitation” of ISIS jihadis and their “reintegration” into Western societies”…..
‘Re-integrated’ into Western societies? They weren’t integrated in the first place! Take a running jump, mate!
Dave Huff says
How does one rehabilitate a shark?
Jihadi’s only purpose in life is to spread Islam.
They and Islam are a pestilence…..
Karen says
Pull its teeth. ?
Karen says
Some years ago there was a prison hospital that had a rehab program for serial killers. They had rap sessions where everyone could get their concerns out in an open, sharing, and nonjudgmental environment. Sounds logical! Problem was, the relapse rate increased after rehab. Turns out the participants just got new ideas for the next murder from all the rehab sessions. In other words, the rehab reinforced their impulses.
Does rehab make sense? Probably not. At the very least we need to know what we’re doing, versus throwing money at some cobbled up “rehab” program big on good intentions.
Typical leftist logic; if spending a trillion zillion dollars rehabs just one ISIS killer, it’s all worthwhile.
traci94 says
Let’s begin the reintegration process in his household…
sidney penny says
Just ask the best inexpert expert from Australia Anne Aly who made it to the Australian Federal Parliament based on her excellent academic work and got invited to the White House because her deradicalization programs were so so so good.
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/11/australia-muslims-outraged-demand-apology-over-pms-calling-out-radical-violent-islam-after-jihad-attack
Labor MP and counter-terrorism expert Anne Aly warned politicians against using language “that is going to divide the community”.
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/09/australia-muslim-prof-claims-she-got-hate-mail-after-her-deceptions-exposed
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/08/australia-muslim-university-research-explains-that-theres-nothing-islamic-about-beheading-women-have-equal-rights-in-islam
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/03/australia-muslim-mp-wants-to-make-offending-muslims-a-criminal-offense
sidney penny says
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/10/malaysia-muslim-cleric-active-in-deradicalization-program-promotes-hatred-of-non-muslims
MMM Moderate Modern Malaysia
Phil Copson says
Anyone working for the UN dollar – (which means riyal) – is there to enable it’s mass-migration programme into the West. Vorodkar will been put in that job because he does what he’s told, not because he does what he should, or is even capable of doing it.
(Neil KInnock, the useless ex-leader of Britain’s Labour Party, was put in charge of investigating corruption in the EU on the same basis – because he could be relied upon to be incapable of doing it, plus he was up to his greedy neck in the EU’s institutional corruption himself, with his entire family on the pay-roll.)
Receiving a lot of money for babbling whilst actually achieving less than nothing is a politician’s idea of a good day’s work – look at May and her cronies.
Frederick King says
The USMC has the only working program. Kill them all, let allah sort them out. Easy.
D3F1ANT says
As long as these “Western societies” are in Europe, I’m OK with this folly.
b.a. freeman says
i’m not OK with it, D3F1ANT, because innocent people will *DIE*. they’re not leftists, and informed people are not in the majority, but they should not have to die because of traitors. leftist traitors are destroying virtually all republics everywhere, and it’s as if small children who have never heard of war are running these nations. this is all because the hard left has controlled the education systems of EVERY SINGLE REPUBLIC for decades. we weren’t watching our children, and the left taught them to be commissars and brownshirts. now the process is too far advanced to reverse before the end comes, so the smart patriot will put aside shelf-stable food and water, along with weapons (keep them legal; the left destroys the republic by flouting the law, so patriots should respect the law, not break it. civil war is coming soon enough).
in 100 years, the world will almost certainly be as unrecognizable to us as the world of ancient egypt is to us today. we need to ensure that civilization wins the coming civil wars, and that freedom lives on. sadly, f***ing liars from the left will have destroyed the republic we love, but i pray that other republics built upon her ashes will learn from her hard-learned lessons and teach their children how to be free. leftism and islam should both be illegal, and anybody accepting either should, at that time, be imprisoned for life with no chance of parole, because neither putrid mind disease has a cure other than the healing touch of God.
gravenimage says
The idea that what happens in Europe has no effect on the rest of the West is entirely mistaken.
b.a. freeman says
i don’t know for certain if this guy is a traitor or just a deluded fool, but due to his age and his nation of origin, i would guess that he’s a commie, which means he *wants* republics to waste resources trying to “rehabilitate” pious muslims. it continues to baffle me how people who are paid to spend time developing that kind of program … DON’T look at the religion which can supposedly cure the terrorists’ “confusion.” if one doesn’t know *how* the religion can cure it, then how can one use it to cure the mistaken outlook? f***ing magic? does the course syllabus have a pretty picture on the front and a blank interior?
more than likely, people like mr. voronkov are striving mightily to destroy the republics of the world; unfortunately, the majority of them are RUNNING THE F***ING GOVERNMENTS of said republics. those who fill subordinate positions in government hierarchies are probably just deluded nominal leftists; they probably believe that the higher-ups know what they’re doing, and that all will be well once said higher-ups are allowed to carry their programs to fruition. they have been indoctrinated, and don’t know how to think critically; they carry out the programs, but are hardly complicit or bearing of any blame. the *leaders* of such groups, OTOH, although they have a very slight chance of also being deluded, are the ones SIGNING THE CHECKS and are the ones upon whom ultimate responsibility falls for implementing the programs; i seriously doubt that they have no culpability. these are the traitors, and because they already have blood on their hands, they need to be tried for enabling mass murder. that won’t happen in the current political climate, but i hope that folks are paying attention and taking names; these people – the hard-core leftist traitors – need to be put on trial for mass murder once the civil wars are over. the crime of enabling the destruction of civilization, and allowing, if not encouraging, the deaths of thousands of innocents (soon to be millions, once iran gets the bomb) *MUST* be punished.