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December 9, 2003

Saudi official: embassy Islamic centers not closing

According to a statement from the Saudi Press Agency (courtesy IMRA), the Islamic Centers in Saudi embassies are not closing down — contrary to a Washington Post report. The Saudi Minister of Islamic Affairs, Endowments, Call and Guidance, Sheikh Saleh Bin Abdulaziz Bin Mohammed Al Al-Sheikh, "replying to a question on the Washington Post newspaper's report on the Kingdom's closure of religious cultural centers in its embassies, he noted that this news item is incorrect, adding that the centers are working and they are part of the Kingdom's message."

These Islamic centers have been discovered to be hotbeds of Islamic extremism. The one in Washington's embassy openly espoused violence. According to a statement on its website, "the Muslims are Required to Raise the Banner of Jihad in Order to Make the Word of Allah Supreme in this World. . . . The Muslims are required to raise the banner of Jihad in order to make the Word of Allah supreme in this world, to remove all forms of injustice and oppression, and to defend the Muslims. If Muslims do not take up the sword, the evil tyrants of this earth will be able to continue oppressing the weak and [the] helpless…"

Sheikh Saleh also "pointed out that the eighth session of the Executive Council of Endowments and Islamic Affairs Ministers due to start here on Wednesday will focus on significant topics topped by terrorism and occupation of parts of the Arab and Muslim World. In an arrival press statement here today, he said that it is improper to attribute terrorism to Islam and other divine religions since Islam's emblem is peace, indicating that all religions lay stress on mercy, peace and amicability. He affirmed that divine messages have nothing to do with any call for terrorism, extremism and violence, stressing that Islam calls for moderation."

Great. I trust then that he will he renounce the theology of jihad as explained by a man who has served as Chief Justice of Saudi Arabia, Sheikh ‘Abdullah bin Muhammad bin Humaid. I quote him in Onward Muslim Soldiers. He says that for Muslims, fighting (with weapons, that is) is "obligatory" against "all those who worship others along with Allah." In the Muslim view that includes Christians and Jews (cf. Sura 9:30: "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah, and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah. That is their saying with their mouths. They imitate the saying of those who disbelieved of old. Allah (Himself) fighteth against them. How perverse are they!"). It also, of course, includes virtually everyone else. Sheikh 'Abdullah cites three chapters of the Qur'an in support of this view: suras 2, 3, and 9. What will Sheikh Saleh say to him?

Posted by Robert at December 9, 2003 5:22 PM
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(cf. Sura 9:30: "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah, and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah. That is their saying with their mouths. They imitate the saying of those who disbelieved of old. Allah (Himself) fighteth against them. How perverse are they!").

When will people realise what these verses mean.
You know, we try to put some good spin on them, try to equate them with our ethics or spiritual ideals; justice, truth, love, freedom(even of the soul), but these verses mean what they say.
And yes, Ezra and the Messiah are not the sons of Allah, they are sons of God(Truth).
And yes 'Allah' does fight with the 'sons' of God.
Because 'Allah' represents hate, division, oppression, death.
And the 'God' Christ represents(and other 'sons' of God who aspire to these ideals) is one of love and progress and truth.
(and whether you believe in "God" or not, we all realise there are ideals we strive toward to do what is right, to find truth, and these are higher than us, though ethereal)
"Allah" doesnt want us to find truth, because then we know he is a lie...or we realise Islam's ideology is a lie.
(A no brainer really, once you pay attention)
Anyway, sorry for the preaching ;-) but what I'm trying to say is that what Allah says in this verse and throughout the Quran is true...it tells you right there in this verse what Allah (Or Islams ideology) is about.
And I for one totally reject it...and I hope for more muslims to see the Truth, and I hope for more non-muslims to accept that what these verses say are true..they are telling us flat out about Islam and what it wants for the world, what it wants as the highest truth.
We have a big problem accepting the truth, we all do in so many ways, I do alot of times thats for sure, I didn't want to believe Islam is what it says..but this time, we gotta face the truth, or it will kill us eventually.
All of us.
Muslim or no.
So to speak the truth, saves us all.
(And it us up to us, the citizens of free countries, because politicians cant tell the truth lol or make things better, w/o us)
Thanks for Jihad Watch, and Dhimmi Watch, it's a wonderful resource.

(Love to Tina, my friend, lost to Islam)

Posted by: TS at December 9, 2003 7:24 PM

They can not all believe what they say to be true. Some must realize, must know that they are just trying to manipulate people. Power, thru the encitment of fear. They fear unity. Peace. They are too stupid to embrace.

The quaran insites towards violence. In the absence of EVERYTHING, all that is left is hatred. The desire to destroy all that is beautiful. Because if you can not have it...No one should.

Thank the haters...

Posted by: Indy craze at December 11, 2003 1:29 AM

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