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March 23, 2004

Indonesia: Detainees 'planned to attack enemies of Islam'

The Spanish model in action in Southeast Asia? Pre-election jihad in Indonesia. From AFP, with thanks to Nicolei:

A group of Indonesian Muslim extremists who were arrested after a blast at a bomb-making factory had wanted to use the explosives to fight enemies of Islam, police said yesterday.

The detainees said the bombs were made to defend themselves against, and to battle, 'people who are against the religion', according to Jakarta police chief Makbul Padmanegara.

He said one of the suspects, Oman Rahman, lived in the house south of Jakarta where a bomb went off accidentally on Sunday.

No one was hurt in the blast, which locals said could be heard up to 1km away.

In a letter, Oman had cautioned his relatives in West Java not to visit 'dangerous' shopping malls, said Inspector-General Padmanegara.

He had also urged them not to take part in this year's general election, which he called an 'act that runs against the religion'.

The disclosure fuelled fears of blasts during the current campaign for the April 5 poll.

Insp-Gen Padmanegara said that nine suspects, including several on a wanted list, would be charged under an anti-terror law.

He told reporters that 'the men were...practising mixing chemicals' in the house before the explosion.

Police found 10 tubes meant to be filled with an explosive mixture of chemicals, he said. Only one had been filled and it was the one which exploded.

Parts of a detonator, bags of potassium chlorate and sulphur as well as VCDs on the struggle in Afghanistan were also discovered.

Posted by Robert at March 23, 2004 5:12 AM
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According to the Barnabas Fund in Great Britain, run by an Anglican minister who is a convert from Islam, more than 2,300 churches in Indonesia were destroyed in 2003 alone. Others put the toll at 4,000 churches. Obviously these are not huge structures, but village churches, for the millions of Christians -- ethnic Chinese and others -- who live in fearful enclaves among a Muslim sea.There has been one Jihad after another in Indonesia since the Dutch left. In the 1960s, more than half-a-million ethnic Chinese were murdered; the offical reason was that they were "Communists"; this was nonsense. The real reason was that they were Christian or Confucian -- i.e. NOT Muslims. In more recent times, the Jihad against non-Muslims explains the 200,000 Catholic East Timorese (1/3 of all East Timorese) who were killed; the tens of thousands of Christians in the Moluccas who have been killed, and others, here and there in the archipelago of Muslim hate. Islam came to Indonesia not through outright conquest, but through Muslim, especially Hadrami (i.e. from the Hadramaut, in south Arabia) traders. Through da'wa, they turned what had been Hindu and Buddhist lands into largely Muslim ones; Christians had a chance during the time of the Dutch, but now, again under Muslim rule, the final extirpation of Christians, and the continued assaults on the Hindus, as well as on the remaining Confucian or Christian Chiinese, continues in front of our eyes. But no one writes about it; not a single major story has appeared in the major press or on television. John Simpson, the anti-American and anti-Israel World Affairs editor of the BBC (see his introduction to one of those conspiracy-theory books on the U.S.S. Liberty, and see his constant sneers directed at all things American in his recent story of "his" reporting on the two Iraq wars) will NEVER cover this story as it should be. Muslim attacks on Christians in norhtern Nigeria, and on the Christians of Kosovo by Muslim mobs are everywhere described primly, and inaccurately, as "communal violence." It is as if the world media had decided it could not face up to the world-wide aggression of Islam, and so had decided to become, instead, the explainer-away, or outright denier, of the world-wide Jihad, and the true sources of bloodshed, now involving attacks on Protestants, now on Catholics, now on Orthodox Christians, now on Jews, now on Hindus, now on Buddhists, now on those deemed to be "freethinkers" (the Masonic Lodge in Istanbul) -- in short, on absolutely everyone who, in the classic Muslim texts, in the Qur'an and hadith, in the work of Islamic jurisconsults, are of course to be attacked. Inattention to this, and the mental flailing about to find any other conceivable source fo for this aggreession and murderousness, has led to increasinbly implausible and ludicrous observations. The answer is staring everyone in the face: the ideology of Jihad-conquest of non-Muslim lands, and then the subsequent imposition of a status of dhimmi on those non-Muslims whose lands have been conquered, by qital (combat), by economic means (boycotts, bribery), by da'wa (conversation from within) and by demography (outbreeding the Infidels). That is what is happening, and all the Euro-Arab Dialogues in the world, all the cravenness displayed by the members of the Islamintern, from Romano Prodi and Javier Solana and Chris Patten, to the lowest forms of anti-American and anti-Israel life (the Fisks, Galloways, Pilgers, Saids, et al), not to mention the open agents of Islam,such as the putatively charming and clearly sinister Tariq Ramadan, now receiving his paycheck from the 501(c)(3) coffers of the Joan Kroc Institute at the University of Notre Dame (!), who claim outright that there is no such thing as Judeo-Christian civilization, that it is merely a distorted branch of Islam (which, bien entendu, is responsible, according to this view, for the Renaissance and so much else in Western civilization).

How long does it take, not everyone, but enough people to look at the evidence of their senses and understand what is happening all around them, from Lackawanna to Lagos, from Paris to Peshawar, from Manila to Madrid? A year? A decade? Or will it only happen when European countries, through the criminal negligence of their own elites, wake up to find themselves with a hostile, indigestible, and threatening Muslim population that even now, though proportionately it is much smaller in America, Canada, and Australia, lays open claim to all of those places in the Bilad al-kufr as future territory of Islam? We can begin to talk about it now, and prepare the mental ground for the severe actions that will have to be taken, including the kind of expulsions that the Czechs, quite justifiably, engaged in in 1946 of 3 million Sudeten Germans (similar mass expulsions took place in Poland and elsewhere -- a total of 12 million ethnic Germans were expelled) in order to end, once and for all, the internal German threat to Czech security. It will come to that with Muslims in the Bilad al-kufr, unless -- magically -- there is some way to permanently change the ideology of Islam. But since all Muslims must be literalists, and there is no tradition of being able to "interpret" away the Jihad that is central in Qur'an and hadith, this problem is not for today, or tomorrow, but forever.

Posted by: Hugh at March 23, 2004 8:29 AM

According to the Barnabas Fund in Great Britain, run by an Anglican minister who is a convert from Islam, more than 2,300 churches in Indonesia were destroyed in 2003 alone. Others put the toll at 4,000 churches. Obviously these are not huge structures, but village churches, for the millions of Christians -- ethnic Chinese and others -- who live in fearful enclaves among a Muslim sea.There has been one Jihad after another in Indonesia since the Dutch left. In the 1960s, more than half-a-million ethnic Chinese were murdered; the offical reason was that they were "Communists"; this was nonsense. The real reason was that they were Christian or Confucian -- i.e. NOT Muslims. In more recent times, the Jihad against non-Muslims explains the 200,000 Catholic East Timorese (1/3 of all East Timorese) who were killed; the tens of thousands of Christians in the Moluccas who have been killed, and others, here and there in the archipelago of Muslim hate. Islam came to Indonesia not through outright conquest, but through Muslim, especially Hadrami (i.e. from the Hadramaut, in south Arabia) traders. Through da'wa, they turned what had been Hindu and Buddhist lands into largely Muslim ones; Christians had a chance during the time of the Dutch, but now, again under Muslim rule, the final extirpation of Christians, and the continued assaults on the Hindus, as well as on the remaining Confucian or Christian Chiinese, continues in front of our eyes. But no one writes about it; not a single major story has appeared in the major press or on television. John Simpson, the anti-American and anti-Israel World Affairs editor of the BBC (see his introduction to one of those conspiracy-theory books on the U.S.S. Liberty, and see his constant sneers directed at all things American in his recent story of "his" reporting on the two Iraq wars) will NEVER cover this story as it should be. Muslim attacks on Christians in norhtern Nigeria, and on the Christians of Kosovo by Muslim mobs are everywhere described primly, and inaccurately, as "communal violence." It is as if the world media had decided it could not face up to the world-wide aggression of Islam, and so had decided to become, instead, the explainer-away, or outright denier, of the world-wide Jihad, and the true sources of bloodshed, now involving attacks on Protestants, now on Catholics, now on Orthodox Christians, now on Jews, now on Hindus, now on Buddhists, now on those deemed to be "freethinkers" (the Masonic Lodge in Istanbul) -- in short, on absolutely everyone who, in the classic Muslim texts, in the Qur'an and hadith, in the work of Islamic jurisconsults, are of course to be attacked. Inattention to this, and the mental flailing about to find any other conceivable source fo for this aggreession and murderousness, has led to increasinbly implausible and ludicrous observations. The answer is staring everyone in the face: the ideology of Jihad-conquest of non-Muslim lands, and then the subsequent imposition of a status of dhimmi on those non-Muslims whose lands have been conquered, by qital (combat), by economic means (boycotts, bribery), by da'wa (conversation from within) and by demography (outbreeding the Infidels). That is what is happening, and all the Euro-Arab Dialogues in the world, all the cravenness displayed by the members of the Islamintern, from Romano Prodi and Javier Solana and Chris Patten, to the lowest forms of anti-American and anti-Israel life (the Fisks, Galloways, Pilgers, Saids, et al), not to mention the open agents of Islam,such as the putatively charming and clearly sinister Tariq Ramadan, now receiving his paycheck from the 501(c)(3) coffers of the Joan Kroc Institute at the University of Notre Dame (!), who claim outright that there is no such thing as Judeo-Christian civilization, that it is merely a distorted branch of Islam (which, bien entendu, is responsible, according to this view, for the Renaissance and so much else in Western civilization).

How long does it take, not everyone, but enough people to look at the evidence of their senses and understand what is happening all around them, from Lackawanna to Lagos, from Paris to Peshawar, from Manila to Madrid? A year? A decade? Or will it only happen when European countries, through the criminal negligence of their own elites, wake up to find themselves with a hostile, indigestible, and threatening Muslim population that even now, though proportionately it is much smaller in America, Canada, and Australia, lays open claim to all of those places in the Bilad al-kufr as future territory of Islam? We can begin to talk about it now, and prepare the mental ground for the severe actions that will have to be taken, including the kind of expulsions that the Czechs, quite justifiably, engaged in in 1946 of 3 million Sudeten Germans (similar mass expulsions took place in Poland and elsewhere -- a total of 12 million ethnic Germans were expelled) in order to end, once and for all, the internal German threat to Czech security. It will come to that with Muslims in the Bilad al-kufr, unless -- magically -- there is some way to permanently change the ideology of Islam. But since all Muslims must be literalists, and there is no tradition of being able to "interpret" away the Jihad that is central in Qur'an and hadith, this problem is not for today, or tomorrow, but forever.

Posted by: Hugh at March 23, 2004 8:29 AM

hugh
an excellent post worthy of Andrew Sullivan.
And do not forget the slaughter of hundredsof thousands of christians on the african continent itself almost totally ignored or reported as "militancy" by the western press.
The cynical politically motivated intervention of Clinton in Kosovo resulted in the indictment of Milosevitch who guilty as he surely is , was of course only the non islamist side of the story.
The huge ethnic cleansings of the serbs by islamist SS troups under Himmler during WW2 in the most horrific fashion has largely been swept under the carpet and it is the serbs who have been portayed as the sole aggressors. THe vilification of the serbs by the Nazis has been upheld by the western press simply because it was a conflict with Islam.
John Simpson, as fine a journalist as he might be has some blood on his hands in this respect.
And how all these galloways, pilgers et al ,have also gotten blood on their hands. They have the right to commit suicide but they will be killing others with their lies and deceits too ! they are also terrorists.
Now that we know of the Iraqi corruption of the UN and other polis fromm European countries, I ask - How many Journalists have received money regularly from Jihadists or even "Charities" in the Arab world? Surely they must be getting paid to put over their distortions. It's difficult to imagine that people of inteligence could hold such opinions.
I'm as angry as you are and putting pen to paper
is no longer enough.

Posted by: David at March 23, 2004 3:53 PM

Hugh-Once again a thorough and impassioned revelation of how our media has failed to inform us. I question whether their negligence due to stupidity or collusion. In any case, they are traitors to the West, or perhaps closet Muslims?

Posted by: epg at March 23, 2004 5:14 PM

Hugh, excellent post, lots of great info. I too wonder how long it will take all people before they realize that Islam has declared war on the world. It's rather like awakening from a deep sleep to find you're being swallowed by a large python. Will we kill the beast before it makes a meal of us, or just go back to sleep? The problem as I see it is not radical Islam or "moderate" Islam, but Islam itself. There is somethig fundamentally wrong with a religion that preaches hate and murder and does not tolerate other religions. I admit I'm a radical. I think we should nuke Mecca and Medina, destroy all mosques and wipe out this cult before they wipe us out. I see it as a matter of national and personal survival. But like I said, I'm a radical.

Posted by: Hal at March 23, 2004 8:17 PM

It is apparent from what is happening to countries like Indonesia today that Islamic countries are not being run of their own accord. Not only is Indonesia the scene of something horrifically murderous beyond comprehension it is also supposed to have democratized...ha ha ha. But instead of democracy under an elected government it has- in the words of Indonesians themselves- been turned into a state presided over by 27 REGIONAL DICTATORS. 27 NEW REGIONAL SUHARTOS NO LESS!!!! One wasn't enough!!!!Legislation has been rendered meaningless, as al-Qaeda wipes out its rainforest dipterocarps under the guise of "illegal" logging. What's wrong with this picture? Some religious political organization operating out of the Middle East (we think) wields the actual political power in the muslim countries, under the veil of something we do not as yet asociate with it. One thing is 100%certain muslim countries will NEVER be democratic ( since democracies tend to empower human beings to defend themselves against phony high priests from turning them into human sacrifices... which is the essence of islam). And the operative word in this case is NEVER. Perhaps such an organization would be a junta set up by the Muslim Brotherhood. Or the Saudi ministry of religion. Or the ISI. Or Osama bin Laden. We'll find out soon enough who and what it is.
p.s.--when al-Qaeda finishes off what little is left of Indonesia's forests what we are seeing there now will barely rate as a preview, when it disintegrates into an uninhabitable wasteland and resulting starvation. Islam is pieces.

Posted by: astrapia at March 24, 2004 5:24 PM

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