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Mrs. Brown, you've got a lovely daughter
A diary kept by the wife of Australian terror suspect Willie Brigitte reveals a great deal about her attitudes toward Islam, jihad and non-Muslims. It also shows she was unaware of her husband's activities.
Willie Brigitte was arrested in Australia and deported to France when Australian authorities say they uncovered a plot to launch a large scale terror attack in Australia. Documents related to the French investigation were released today. They claim that Pakistani architect Abu Hamza asked Brigitte to lodge "a specialist in explosives who was to come to Australia," Chechan "bomb specialist", Abu Salah, a commander-in-chief of a Lashkar-e-Taiba training camp in Faislabad.
Brigitte's lawyers deny this, although they do admit he tried to make his way to Afghanistan after Sept. 11 to fight with the Taliban. Although he failed to reach Afghanistan, he trained four months in a Lashkar-e-Taiba camp. As his lawyers point out, there is no law against going to Pakistan for terrorist training.
His wife is sure that he is just a victim of anti-muslim sentiment.
More on her attitudes in the article. Apparently her subconcious mind does not realize that jihad is primarily a spiritual struggle.
DIARIES kept by Melanie Brown before her arrest in Paris reveal the enormous anxiety she was feeling as the bride of Australia's most notorious terrorist suspect.French counter-intelligence agents working for anti-terror judge Jean-Louis Bruguiere, confiscated the memoirs as part of their investigation into Ms Brown and her involvement with Brigitte.
Seen by the Herald Sun, the diaries provide a telling insight into a woman who considers herself alienated from the community to which she once belonged.
Her world is divided in two: those who worship Allah and those who don't.
Non-believers are neither to be trusted nor associated with, unless it would benefit her new-found god.
Now known as Khadija, she lives, works and prays a short drive from where she grew up as Melanie Joyce Brown, popular student at Danebank Anglican School for Girls, at Hurstville, southern Sydney.
Yet while her surroundings are familiar, she considers herself a stranger to most everyday Australians, and persecuted for her adopted beliefs, dress and customs.
"How many times do we find written in the Quran (Koran) reminders and warnings not to take disbelievers as . . ." she wrote on January 5, before she left for Paris.
"Even if they are nice to you, remember they are not befriending you for the pleasure of Allah. They will only be seeking to gain something or in some way benefit themselves.
"Even if the pretense is merely because it makes them happy or they find you interesting, this is still gaining for other than the sake of Allah.
"Just be sure not to commit acts of disbelief."
Ms Brown's awareness of the cultural clash between her old life and new are reflected in a dramatic dream she had in Paris, in which she imagined she was waging a jihad against Australian troops in the Blue Mountains.
In the dream, the former transmissions specialist in the Australian Army plays a key role because of her military background and knowledge of Australian battle tactics.
She helps shoot down an Australian reconnaissance plane before infiltrating a military base town where she spies for the jihad while working in a local hotel.
Posted by Robert at March 24, 2004 8:43 AM
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Mrs. Brigitte's Diary: confiding her Muslim thoughts to that diary, she offers the perfectly orthodox Muslim doctrine of Al Wala wal Bara. One must love, and cleave to, all Muslims, to help them, to ally with them, no matter what. And, per contra, one must hate all non-Muslims, no matter how seemingly kind they may be (indeed, much is made about being wary of those Infidels precisely when they seem to be most kind and helpful). Do the American troops in Iraq realize that their "winning hearts and minds" will come to so little precisely to the extent that Islam is strong? Has anyone explained to them, before they depart, about the doctrine of Al Wala wal Bara, so that they will not suffer unduly (think of the demoralization that can come from constantly doing good, with all those schools, hospitals, roads, and free soccer balls, and yet being offered in return either fleeting, or no gratitude, or mistrust, and even murderous hostility -- which in no way, in the Muslim view, would be contradicted by the continued desire to have the Americans stay, in order to take advantage of Infidel largesse, and let the Americans get killed keeping the peace among the Muslims). Her diary entries are exactly what Muslims are taught. For more on this, see all the testimonies of ex-Muslims in Leaving Islam, or at the website www.secularislam.com, about the inculcated hatred for Infidels. That is NOT limited to Wahhabis alone; it is central to mainstream Islam. The sooner these melancholy realities are grasped, and thoroughly assimilated, the better for the Infidels, from Manila to Madrid, from Lagos to Lackawanna, from Peshawar to Paris.
And the immmortal first line from Peter Noone of Herman's Hermits, let it be said, has seldom been put to better use.
Posted by: Hugh at March 24, 2004 9:25 AMHUGH YOU SAID IT. I FOUND A WEB SIGHT THAT IS A MUSLIM WEB SIGHT HERE IS WHAT IT HAD ON IT.
In the Name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful
The Lord of Adam, Abraham, Moses, Jesus and the final Prophet, Muhammad
(Peace be with them all)
The American Muslim Association of North America, AMANA
Would like to comment on the movie “Passion of Christ”.
By delivering to you a two verses from the Qur’an:
And [for] their saying, "Indeed, we have killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah." But they did not kill, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was created to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him [the real Jesus], for certain. “Rather, Allah raised him to Himself. And ever is Allah Exalted in Might and Wise.” (al-Nisa’, 4:157 & 158)
IN THE PASSAGE ABOVE MOHAMAD TRIED TO DISCOUNT THE CRUCIFICTION AND SAY BUT ANAOTHER WAS CREATED TO RESEMBLE HIM. WELL GOD THEN WENT A VERY LONG WAY TO CREATE ANOTHER JESUS. THEN MOHAMMAD WANTED TO THROW DOUGHT ON TOP OF HIS STATEMENT SAYING THERE IS O CERAINT KNOWLED OR PROOF THAT IT HAPPENED EVERYON JUST ASSUMES THAT IT HAPPENED AND THEY DID NOT REALLY KILL JESUS HE JUST RAISED JESUS UP TO HIM. WELL LETS TALK ABOUT THIS. IF MOHAMAD WAS SUCH A GREAT PROFET THEN WHY DID NOT GOD RAISE HIM UP JUST LIKE HE ROSE JESUS. I WOULD SAY FROM THIS STATEMENT ALONE THAT SOME EVIL IS BEING PERPATRATED. IF I WERE READING THE KURAN AND CAME UPON THIS STATEMENT I WOULD SAY WHAT TYPE OF TRICORY IS BEFALLING ME.? THIS IS A BAD RELIGION THAT JUST IS NOTHING BUT TROUBLE FOR THE WHOLE WORLD. IN THE PARAGRAPH BELOW IT SAYS THAT IF YOU ARE NOT MUSSLIM THEN YOU ARE FORBIDEN OR IN OTHER WORDS EVENTUALLY THEY WILL GET RID OF YOU. I BELIEVE THAT IS WHY THEY WANT THE JEWS GONE FIRST. THERE ARE SO MANY CONFLCTS IN THIS RELIGION THAT THEY BELEIE IN THE FATHER OF MOSES BUT THEN WANT ALL JEWS DEAD. JUST EVIL. IF THEY BELIEVE IN THE OLD TESTIMENT THEN THEY WOULD ALSO BELIEVE THAT GOD SAID THE JEWS WOULD BE ON THE EARTH UNTIL THE END. SO WHY ARE THEY TRYING TO KILLL THEM? JUST AN EVIL RELIGION. MY THOUGHT ARE THAT THE DEVIL AFTER CHRIST WAS CRUCIFIED NEEDED A WAY TO COMBAT THE GOOD THAT WAS HAPPENING BY CHRISTS FOLLOWERS SO HE SWAYED MOHAMMED TO DO HIS EVIL BIDDING. THE DEVIL IS AT WORK TODAY, THREW THIS RELIGION. WITH INTOLERANCE AND HATREAD OF THE LIFE OF OTHERS.
(1)*(AYAH OF THE WEEK [Verse from the Qur'an])
Let there arise out of you a group of people inviting to all that is good (Islam), enjoining Al-Ma’ruf (i.e. Islamic Monotheism and all that Islam calls for) and forbidding Al-Munkar (polytheism and disbelief and all that Islam has forbidden). And it is they who are the successful. (Qur’an, Al-Imran 4:104)
hey pete stop yelling [caps = yelling]
Posted by: jimmytheclaw at March 24, 2004 1:00 PMLooking at her pic, where's a good thick Burka when you need one?
Posted by: D C Watson at March 24, 2004 1:08 PMHmm. Another Peter. Oh well, thats what comes of having a common name. Guess I'll have to distinguish myself by being the lower case one.
I thought the head scarf was to prevent mens lustful urges from being uncontrollable. I don't thnk the scarf is entirely nescessary for Mrs Brown.
1: Boy! Talk about your wierd sexual fantasies! This broad has some serious issues!
2: Peter, you're spamming. CUT IT OUT. Stop repeating yourself. Stop repeating yourself. Stop repeating yourself. Stop repeating yourself.
Sigh. Well, this goes to explain why Muslims don't mix with non Muslims - they have been taught to believe we are not to be trusted. If this is the mainline thinking, then how can there be any sort of rapprochment? It is sad that their own religion teaches them to be paranoid.
Posted by: paula at March 24, 2004 6:39 PMThis woman is so sad. To leave the way of life for the way of death. God willing she'll repent.
Posted by: Helen at March 25, 2004 3:53 AMALLAH IS THE WALI (PROTECTOR, GUARDIAN)OF THOSE WHO BELIEVE. HE BRINGS THEM OUT FROM DARKNESS INTO LIGHT. BUT AS FOR THOSE WHO DISBELIEVE, THEIR AULIYA (SUPPORTERS AND HELPERS)ARE TAGHUT (FALSE DEITIES AND FALSE LEADERS) THEY BRING THEM OUT FROM LIGHT INTO DARKNESS. (2:257)
VERILY THE RIGHT PATH HAS BECOME DISTINCT FROM THE WRONG PATH. WHOEVER DISBELIEVES IN TAGHUT AND BELIEVES IN ALLAH THEN HE HAS GRASPED THE MOST TRUSTWORTHY HANDHOLD THAT WILL NEVER BREAK. AND ALLAH IS ALL HEARER ALL KNOWER. (2:256)
tradition of prophet Muhammed salalalahu alihi wasalm "islam came as a stranger and will return as a stranger so give glad tiding to the strangers"(bukhari)
Islam is the dean(way of life) chosen by Allah and he will surely protect this dean from harm.
when Allah says not to befriend disbelievers than he has spoken the truth.
Muslim leaders have taken disbelievers as there friends thats why they are in the state they are in now.
Unfortunately Maria and Muslimah, the only ones who believe in this "truth" you embrace, are people who have accepted your faith and have ignored history. Personally, I could never accept Islam as a religion because the Qu'ran was written AFTER the Hebrew and Christian bibles. As it came after them, it has even less standing as "truth" because it borrowed from both of them and did it VERY poorly. Heck, Mohammad actually mixed up people from time periods that occurred a thousand years apart. How in the world can anyone with one eye and half sense not realize that?
While no doubt you are sincere in your beliefs, you are sincerely wrong. And, to those of us who see it, it is more than self evident.
Posted by: paula at March 25, 2004 6:37 AMI want to know when does Allah speaks to you? By email, by phone, do you hear voices?
When and how does Allah speak to you? Why does Allah speak to you and not to other people?
Isn't it about time, that we start confronting people about when Allah speaks to them? Part of the problem is that the "outside" world keeps allowing Moslems to sound and act as if they are normal, as if Allah were a real god. Allah is about delusions, and Moslems should be confronted on a massive scale that Allah is a delusion.
Logic can go a long way toward waking some of these "sick" people up. This is a problem of mass psychosis, not a problem of politics. Let us call this what it is.
Judy
Posted by: Judy at March 25, 2004 8:03 AMThere should be a panel convened about nonMoslem women who become Moslems.
I would guess, that such women have low-self esteem, are attracted to the attention they get from "being different," and identifying with the "victim" status of other Moslems, and during the dating or seduction process, become apart of the Stockholm Syndrome in the male Moslem's community and sphere of influence.
It is now time to seriously look at Islam as mass psychosis, and stop treating it as either a religious or a political entity.
A clear reading of the Koran, book by book indicates that the Koran is "hate speech" first against women, and secondly against all "nonMoslems."
There is nothing redeeming in the Koran that I can find, and I have been studying the Koran and the history of the Middle East since 1976.
No, the Koran should not be "banned," but should be studied in schools of psychology as "hate speech" and exercises in mass religious hysteria.
Judy
Posted by: Judy at March 25, 2004 8:11 AMThe line under the photo, "Mrs. Brown, you've got a lovely daughter," has sort of a hateful tone in it. Let me provide a simplistic analysis. Clearly, you don't mean she's lovely. So you're being sarcsatic. You've addressed the caption to her mother, to stress the 'shame' inherent in the entire affair. (indeed, her husband's involvement is shameful, but hers?) At once, this shames the daughter AND the mother. The caption oozes with snideness, an attitude that those more circumspective (or wiser) than yourself would deem below them. But, alas, the crowd wants to laugh, to guffaw--on with the show! Before you lambast me, let me continue. I followed the link to her diary, and found that, although she does seem confused, there's no reason to be snotty about her or to deride her. She's obviously struggling with her rather shaky view of religion. True, some of her interpretations are hateful, but I've never found that the sincere struggle with ideas is a thing to laugh at. There are many people in the world struggling with their faith in 'ideologies', who sense that they are not what they are cracked up to be. It's a difficult realization. Not enough people take the time to examine ANYTHING sincerely, so we don't need to deride such efforts. Her mistaken attitudes, common among converts preyed on by provincial muslims, make most of the Muslims I know groan. You chose only those quotes from the diary that illustrate her 'hatefulness', in order to add to your litany of evidence for your case: Islam is a religion of maniacal murderers. I am a "liberal Muslim" and can assure you that, despite the world's clamour for more "openminded" muslims, the world wants no part of liberal islam, or any islam. If you pray, you're a terrorist. If you wear a headscarf, you're a cowed victim. The only muslims the world (and you) wants are those who take their side in 'the war'. I am against all sorts of violence, yet even I feel the heat from these generalizations on a daily basis. Sarcasm reigns (Bah! give me a break, a liberal Muslim? HAH!), and boosts the prejudices of the masses. Why consider a thing carefully when we can be sarcastic? You contribute to the attitude with a sarcastic and triumphal caption. I know, though, that sarcastic triumphalism is a lot more effective in getting political points across to a mob than is a more circumstantial sensitivity. I live in a predominantly Jewish area, and many of my friends are Jews, yet when my wife and I go shopping we are constantly glared at by people who would not even want to talk to us, much less get to know us. They, too, have adopted their 'ideology', and have abandoned their sensitivity to a harsh judgmentalism that doesn't need to bother itself with the particulars of any case, or of any individuals (sort of like 'muslims' and 'non-muslims'). To me, it's amazing how this type of thinking can bloom in the minds of the enlightened, and in the minds of the downtrodden, to evolve into new forms of tyranny and hate.
Posted by: Mahmoud Albari at March 25, 2004 12:15 PMMy dear Albari,
I was a bit taken aback when I saw that caption myself. It was put up by a Jihad Watch staffer while I was out of town, but of course I take full responsibility. In any case, Ms. Brown's careful imbibing of hatred in the name of her religion in my view amply justifies being snide about her "loveliness": it is not a remark about her physical appearance.
In any case, I would be interested in your impressions of some other matters. Please see here:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/001279.php
Here is a man claiming to represent true Islam. How do you, as a "liberal Muslim," refute him on Islamic grounds?
I look forward to your reply.
Cordially
Robert Spencer
Hello Mahmoud.
You are correct. A lot of people do have negative attitudes to islam, but there are many different reasons for this. For some people it is simply the fear of the foreign, this is an immature view and should not be treated with respect.
Many of the people on this site however, there anxieties about islam are about three things.
1) the foundations of the religion. The quran and the hadith.
2)the history of islams behaviour to the rest of the world.
3)Islaam today. I'll just deal with this one on this post. Look at the news stories on this site. They are not isolated incidents, but demonstrate that a significant proportion of moslems are interested in spreading the faith by ANY means nescessary. Our greatest concerns are that these extremists are able to readily quote quran, hadith and islamic history to justify all their actions.
The question I feel I have to ask a "moderate muslim" is this;
What do you believe?
Do you believe Islam should be the universal religion?
Should islam be the basis of all government and law?
Do you believe that in such a future, I by not converting should live in Dhimmi status?
Do you believe that I should not be able to give evidence as your equal in a court of law?
If your natural sense of justice says no to the above, then you have to ask yourself how you can be muslim and reject this orthodoxy. If you say yes to these questions, I don't see much 'moderation.'
Mr. Albari,
I appreciate hearing from Muslims like you. It is due to more liberal Muslims that I have hope for the future of Islam. I would love to see a complete reformation of your religion that will allow for people of different beliefs to live side by side without fear of being killed by one another. It would also be wonderful to see Islam flourish once again, as it did during the time when Islamic people embraced the sciences and philosophies of others, during the time of its greatest achievements, before the anti-intellectual/fundamentalist strains of Islam took hold in about 1400.
Please understand that many of us (I believe) on this site do not have problems with you and your outlook. Our concern is that the fanatic side to your faith, which oftentimes expresses itself so quickly and with such virulence we can see our future written on the wall - and that future is grim indeed. I guess, in that respect, we have a common concern. Wishing you the best.
Posted by: paula at March 25, 2004 5:33 PMOne of the more important practical indicators that independent thought is impossible for Muslims is laid out in the first posting, above, where the absolute requirement to support other Muslims, no matter what they do, is made quite clear.
Until I see massive anti-terrorist demonstrations made up of Muslims, no Muslim can ever expect the respect of those upon whom so many of their fellows currently prey.
Self-esteem is the product of competence and independence. Neither is a quality of character promoted by Islam.
Most Muslims aren't Muslims because they are stupid, they are Muslims because they are afraid to be anything else, given the "threat matrix" they live under. Because they are under continuous threat, primarily "if you deviate you will be killed and burn in hell," most Muslims will forever be intellectually/emotionally imprisoned, with their only outlet being humiliation, rage, revenge, and all their other absurd battle cries.
These extreme emotions, coupled with blaming others, never taking responsibility for their own situation, and living the lives of professional victims, is their only means of expressing the enormous dysphoria produced by their repressive religion.
These excuses and emotions are not, and never will be, substitutes for self-esteem, and the only response to Islam will forever be contempt.
Posted by: cubed at March 26, 2004 8:52 AM


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