Robert, Hizb-ut-Tahrir (as you well know) has a branch in the UK. Would today's bombers be an offshoot of the same movement, or a group with a coincidentally similar name?

Even by Reuters standards, that's a lot of scare quotes. What is the matter with these writers?

Perhaps it is possible to get official statements from these "news agencies" regarding the way they "report". They should be on the record why they use such "quotes" and their "policies" on same. Numerous blogs now surpass the "main stream" agencies in their news analysis and we have the "right" to know.

On CNN this morning they used the word 'terrorist.' I love the phrase, "the war on terror," as if it's a 'war on air,' or a 'war on water.' When are they going to finally say what it is: a war against Islamic terrorism!

Chaya said;
"When are they going to finally say what it is: a war against Islamic terrorism!"

Unfortunately the war on terror did not start soon after 9/11, we in England have been fighting American funded Irish terrorism for decades. Even now you can walk into certain bars in Boston and New York and see collecton tins for the "Prisoners Families" and not a Muslim in sight. As far as i know NORAID is still a thriving "charity" in the USA, btw quote marks are intended to suggest mild sarcasm.

wes:

"American funded Irish terrorism for decades."

Then by your definition, since there are no doubt elements in England supporting Islamic terrorism,
England is funding Islamic terrorism.

Am I right?

Uzbekistan is another area where muslims have a strong hold and it is supposed to be one of many such places in central Asia ,from which the basis of a new kaliphate will arise.
Other areas in the region are supposed to join in ,such as Azerbaijan,Kirkizstan,Turkmenistan,Kazakstan,Chechenya,etc.
It is not a coincidence that the president`s name is "Islam"....that says it all.
All these small states are part of a master plan,put togheter by Osama Bin Laden and his acolytes.A fundamentalist regime in all these countries,will facilitate their union with a regenerated-taliban-ruled Afghanistan,and together with fundamentalist-reoriented Turkey,will become the core of the new kaliphate.
The rest of the Middle East,Far East and South-East Asia should follow,and then....all hell will break lose for us,the few infidels left to be conquered by the demons of the crescent moon.
If America will allow this to happen,we will all have to commit suicide to save us from the worst nightmare known to human kind.

so the uzbek dictator is fine as long as he's keeping them there moslems down......
and allowing US airbases to fight the war on terror

Mark M
It is a good point but no you are not right, the reason i say this is because the people supporting Islamic Terrorism in England are not ethnically English , nor are they assimilated into mainstream English life. The American funds for Irish terrorism, however, were donated by Americans who were ethnically American and participated fully in your way of life and political dynasties.

My main point was not to tar an entire people by the actions of relatively few individuals, i doubt if many Americans know of or care about Irish terrorism but its effects are remembered here. Would you have been supportive of us if we had marched into Dublin as an action on the war on our terror. I doubt it but remember more people have died in the UK as a result of Irish terrorism than died in the awful attacks on the twin towers, it may not have been in the glare of publicity but dead is still dead.

I think what i am trying to say is that a war on terrorism is a good thing but please don't distinguish between Muslim and Irish terrorism, many of the Irish terrorists went for training in the middle east but the silence was deafening from across the water.

Wes,
Let's not confuse the issues. If Americans of Irish descent collect money for "prisoners" or even for the IRA terrorists you can be sure that they do not intend to destroy Great Britain and annihilate her people nor, for that matter, convert the British to catholicism.
Instead just consider what the mohammadans do: they collect and even finance murderous terrorists for the destruction of the West and its values, including democracy, as we know it. In addition, they want to convert all the "infidels" to an intolerant and racist religion by whatever means. At the end of the day, it is one of the most important tenets of the Quran that the infidels must be converted to Islam by force or killed if they refuse conversion.

Wes,

At what point does one become ethnically American, or ethnically English? After the 1st generation,
2nd, 3rd, ...? See what I mean? In my mind, if Irish-Americans living here are natualized citizens, then they are American. I may not like it. Especially if their loyalties to Ireland are greater than their loyalties to America, but they are American nonetheless. The same for Muslims living in England. How can you second guess one's loyalties or their degree of assimilation? If we could read people's minds to determine where their heart is, we would be able to deport those with unpatriotic motives forthwith. I think at best it is a hazy distinction at best that you are trying to draw.

Therefore, if you say America funds Irish terrorism, we can also say that England funds Islamic terrorism.