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Smiling at the massacre
From Reuters:
The United States vowed on Wednesday to stay the course in Iraq after three American contractors were killed in an ambush and their bodies dragged through the streets of Falluja in an incident reminiscent of the grisly fate of U.S. soldiers attacked in Somalia in 1993.Four contractors to the U.S.-led Coalition Provisional Authority that has run Iraq since last year' U.S.-led invasion to oust Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein were attacked by guerrillas on a main road in the town, 32 miles (50 km) west of Baghdad.
A crowd of Iraqis then set the vehicles ablaze, hurled stones into the burning wreckage and dragged the charred and mutilated bodies through the streets of the town, a center of resistance to the U.S.-led occupation.
Television film of a similar incident in Somalia sickened Americans over the U.S. mission there and was a factor in the decision to pull U.S. forces from the African state.
In a separate incident on Wednesday, five U.S. soldiers died when a roadside bomb was detonated near their convoy west of Baghdad.
"These are horrific attacks by people who are trying to prevent democracy from moving forward, but democracy is taking root," said White House spokesman Scott McClellan, saying the United States would stick to a June 30 deadline to hand over power in Iraq to some sort of transitional Iraqi government.
"We mourn the loss of life and there is an important effort that is well under way in Iraq to provide the Iraqi people freedom and democracy and we will not turn back from that effort," McClellan said.
A U.S. official in Washington who did not wish to be named said that three of the four contractors were U.S. citizens.
Television pictures showed one incinerated body being kicked and stamped on by a member of the jubilant crowd, while others dragged a blackened body down the road by its feet.
As one body lay burning on the ground, an Iraqi came and doused it with petrol, sending flames soaring. At least two bodies were tied to cars and pulled through the streets, witnesses said.
The treatment of the four -- who appear to have been among the many civilian security contractors operating in Iraq, according to one U.S. official -- revived memories of the brutal treatment of U.S. soldiers in Somalia in 1993.
Somali militia fighters ambushed U.S. Army Rangers and special forces troops in bloody street battles on Oct. 3, 1993, that left 18 Americans dead. Some of their corpses were dragged through the dusty streets of Mogadishu by jubilant mobs.
President Bill Clinton later withdrew U.S. forces, who had originally been sent to Somalia on a humanitarian mission.
Posted by Robert at March 31, 2004 5:22 PM
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the scene can be watched by going to the assoc. press website. very horrific, enough to make me sick to my stomach, furious, and saddened all at the same time. my thoughts and prayers are with the families of the brave people who lost their lives so brutally today. there's no way we can pull out of Falluja and if anything, these people need to understand consequences of their actions. if they would just cooperate they might just begin to understand our real intentions. their minds and thoughts are so painfully distorted, they cannot begin to understand what we, as Americans, stand for. we must not pull out. it would not help either side to do so.
Posted by: misty at March 31, 2004 5:49 PMfalluja needs to remain occupied and under marshall law for a long time. i say, throw a media blackout over the whole triangle, send in shiite or kurdish police forces, and search for these scumbags (perpetrators and revelers) house to house. these people do not respect kindness, they see our humanity as a weakness and are in contempt of it.
Posted by: frendlydude2k at March 31, 2004 9:22 PM"murder for good footage" and how is that different then watching cnn/foxnews and hearing the reports indicate that b-52's have departed from england for the beginning of "shock and awe" and then a couple hours later like clockwork we turn on cnn and there live in downtown baghdad we watch as bombs and cruise missles fall on the city....
Posted by: joseph at March 31, 2004 9:40 PM
no we should encircle the city then we should string up every male on every telephone pole in fallujah. then we should shoot all the child bearing woman and throw them in a massive pit. so that the people of fallujah just end there.... oh wait thats what you would do im sorry
I saw a photo of what happened in Iraq today, it is very sad. Unfortunately, I believe the only way to stop such a thing is to do what the Russians did to the Germans at the end of WWII. they lost over four hundred and fifty thousand men when they went into Berlin in 1945, but they cleaned up the whole Nazi problem. This problem definitely is not going to be solved by staging a "Love In."
Posted by: paula at March 31, 2004 10:22 PMJoseph,this was your only post,so far that i agree with.
We should do just that.
For every american soldier killed in Iraq,we should execute one thousand iraqis.
For the five american soldiers killed today,we should execute five thousand iraqis.
In less than a week our casualties would come down to zero.
These savages only respect brute force.
They citizens of Fallujah do not deserve to live in the 21st century. As Saddam's goon squads, the only thing they understand is brute force. Surround the city, take out 4 square kilometers where the Americans were murdered, take out the bridges where they were hung, and take out the city hall. Then start walking the 155's howitzer's in slowly. Last, turn the site where Fallujah used to be into a giant pig farm.
Posted by: Hal at April 1, 2004 6:05 AMyou do know that if any of these plans where carried out that the entire population minus maybe the kurds would completely turn against the us forces and do a mass rebellion that would completely force the americans out of iraq.
Posted by: joseph at April 1, 2004 6:40 AMI cannot condone (nor does international law) collective punishment. Whether it would work is another matter...
For once, though, I agree with a point made by joseph: "the entire population minus maybe the kurds would completely turn against the us forces..." Well, the US forces will be out of Iraq on June 30- so is this really a relevant strategic issue?
BUT- assume the correctness of the LLL rant that this was war-for-oil. Who controls the largest Iraqi oil fields? Of course, the Kurds.
Posted by: Earl at April 1, 2004 7:27 AMI disagree Joseph. The people of Fallujah are Saddam's bigest supporters. Most of them earned their living by working for the Ba'ath party and doing Saddam's dirty work for him. The rest of the Iraqis hate them because they were the secret police, the torturers, the executioners for Saddam. Now that he and his regime are gone, so is the major source of income and power for these people. You notice that these attacks aren't being carried on anywhere else in Iraq.
Posted by: Hal at April 1, 2004 10:48 AMFALLUJA:
What we do now is:
1. turn all the water off
2. turn all their electricity off
3. close access to all roads
4. separate all the men, from the women and children, put the later into encampments
5. slowly starve the men into submission and find out who did it, and use loud rap music for 24 hours a day, with bright lights, with nauseous and noxious so they vomit on themselves, and psychotropic inhalants so they have hallucinations, strip them naked
6. issue identification cards to all men, women and children, and finger print all of the above
7. blow up all mosques and religious sights, including the city hall and grave yards
8. hang the men who did it publicly, then drag their bodies through the street and let the pigs eat their bodies after three days, two days past the time Moslems bury the dead
9. jail the leaders of Al Qaeda, with a warning that there will be no public meetings, no Koran readings, no prayers, for the rest of the year...it is over
10. leave the Kurds or Turks in charge after we leave
Have I forgotten anything?
Posted by: Judy at April 1, 2004 3:00 PMHmmm. . . No, Judy, that about does it.
Posted by: cubed at April 1, 2004 6:54 PMThere are about four women that are posting on this message board,Judy,Helen,Lili and myself.
I apoligize if i left out anyone,by mistake.
For some reason,it looks like we are even more radical than the men .
And the reason probably is that if the islamic cancer will overcome our country,we will be the first to suffer and we will suffer the most.
We will be the ones to be first enslaved,raped,veilled in stupid burqas,incarcerated in our own homes,banned from schools,universities and any other form of education,unable to drive or to vote,and sold like camels.
We would rather die than live under the shari`a.
Judy,i salute you.
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