And thus the jihadists and their backers are triumphat knowing that Spain is returning to Islam and that they actually can intimidate a whole nation with the price of a few bags of fertilizer, a few other components, and a cell phone. A very large victory, cheaply bought can only encourage more of the same.

Now we must look forward for to a renewed push by the jihadists in other countries. Knowing that it worked once, why shouldn't this tactic work again. Some would rather accept dhimmitude than death, even in the United States.

Al-Qaeda timed its victory perfectly to coincide with the elections in Spain. A lack of common sense might make one believe that the Spanish bought safety by their capituation, and similarly, only the very foolish would believe that Al-Qaeda won't try the same tactic before the November elelction, hoping that the American electorate is as easily frightened as were the Spanish that now are lulled into a false sense of security.

Going the same route as France. During the olympics they had fireworks banned, because everytime a rocket went off the French army surrendered.

The Spaniard vote has already born deadly fruit, with the kidnappings and executions in Iraq. The Spaniards have told the Jihadis that europeans will run away from death, and so in turn more death is offered.

It has never occurred to many Europeans that islam is a dressed-up human sacrifice cult. In short killing IS the religion. Killing feeds and pleases Allah (the great, merciful snicker-snack) who is believed to be God by muslims but in fact is not the Judeo-Christian God, only the Arabian moon-god. No matter how many human beings (believer or not) are murdered by this cleric and his demented ilk he will NEVER IN A BILLION TRILLION YEARS have any physical proof that this being named Allah actually exists. For this reason islam's attempts at legitimization of murder can never be legitimate--or sane. Islam is a cult (even if a billion followers claim otherwise). NOT a religion. Since it is designed to legalize murder and execute ( pardon the pun) it en masse, non-muslims have all the legitimacy they could ever want in order to prevent muslims like this cleric from carrying out their desires to legalize and perform human sacrifices upon non-muslims (that is turn them into burnt offerings for Allah's satisfaction thereby purifying the earth and winning its blessings). Even if that means engaging in combat as non-muslims now are in Iraq. Conflict is not terrorism. Thosze claiming otherwise do not know what they are talking about.

how ironic it is that it was the spanish socialists in the 1930s that declared "it is better to die on our feet than live on our knees"

Is it just me .. does anyone else think Zapatero looks a bit odd. Can't quite put my finger on it.

we - He looks like a Spanish Mr. Bean.
And the sharply peaked "gaybrows" above his eyes might be a little disconcerting.

It didn't work in 1939 and will not not. Wake up! Their only goal is to KILL ALL that do not belive as they do. There is no room for any anything else. A religion of peace my ass.

Islam IS a cult.

You can't blame them completely, these people have been brought up on welfare state pablum for years and their leaders never tried to really explain and lead them during the war. It was done with minimal consent and understanding.

The Europeans, in their denial and delusion, generally affected by their French-pioneered post-modernist and post-structuralist "philosophies", have become arch-revisionist in their approach to history and one item they burn to "rectify" is the poor reputation that appeasement's gained since Munich, 1938.

They prefer appeasement to be perceived as perfectly correct in principle, but, alas, somehow faulty in its execution on that particular occasion - re-validating it as a proper Machtspolitikal approach for the future.

Of course, they keenly look forward to the next opportunity they'll be extended by international circumstances to apply it: to wit, selling Israel down the river to genocidal totalitarianism, in the identical way that they "sacrificed" democratic Czechoslovakia at Munich, seeking (in vain, as they were so surprised to find) to buy peace from a pack of supremely implacable aggressors, expansionists and war-mongers.

Naturally, this'll fail badly, however much the myopic, suicidal Europeans pretend to have forever preserved their eco-cultural utopia - ultimately, with hell to pay.

Afraid that they'll be unable to compete, the Europeans oppose America's proposed planetary globalization, preferring an order closer to that in George Orwell's "1984".

He projected an arrangement of 3 great hyper-powers: "Eastasia" (mainly China, Japan and Korea), "Oceania" (North America, Australia, the Pacific Islands and Britain) and "Eurasia" - continental Europe and Russia.

The Europeans heavily favour the establishment of the latter, with an exclusive, sealed sphere of influence over Africa, the Middle East, Central Asia and much of India, where neither the Americans and their allies and associates, nor the Chinese, Japanese, etc, will be able to intrude.

Their cheerful siding with and appeasement of the Islamo-fascists today could be their means to fan a catastrophic clash between the Arabs/Moslems and America, to sap them both in preparation for the time when the Europeans are eventually ready to take over the former and to confront the latter, rendered too weak by the toll incurred by fighting back Islamo-fascism, to halt them and advance the US vision of a united, co-operative, planetary civilization of freedom....

Once again, we are going to bail out the Zeropeans, because they never seem to learn...and yeah, Zapatero looks like a doofus.

Como no se inglés poco puedo comentar de vuestros mensajes, pero si sabéis español podréis comentar los mios ;-)

Un Saludo.

I'm spanish, and you can guess how I feel like shit right now. Zapatero (aka 'the joker') is a fool, you should just listen to him. He's selling everything for power. Socialists don't really give a damn about troops in Iraq and what not, they're just riding a wave, of what people want. And that's a big flaw, people are stupid, you give them what they need, independently of if it's what they need. But it gives them votes, power and money. They're hope is to eventually control society, and they're not doing a bad job for now, just look at how well their media, PRISA group (SER, El Pais, Canal+...) did.

i feel for you, alex. one side of my family is white russian and always felt a great sadness about what the communists were doing to their motherland.

interesting projections on orwell, h.g.

the thought crossed my mind that spain has now become a laboratory. the planet will be able to watch its struggle within as it copes with competing political philosophies that seek to either stabilize it or destroy it. (venezuela is another such laboratory.)

aznar is a great man with much understanding and quite probably the best thing that has happened to spain in many years. i'd bet dollars for doughnuts that zapatero (admittedly, i think there is something odd about him, too) will dismantle aznar's progress in very short shrift. oh well, sow the wind, reap the whirlwind.

Spain a test lab? Wait a sec, how 'bout the spanish civil war 0f 36-39, where there was a conflict between fascists and comunists, where nazis an d commies tested there weapons and tactics, where nobody from outside gave a damn, eventually leaving us in a half century of a fascist dictatorship, tolerated because of it's anti-comunism, where life was worse than what it was in saddam's Iraq?

People don't give a shit about Spain, never have, and never will. Even with Aznar, only a few people even knew we were part of the coalition.

To Alex:
In Irak they have been living worse than in Spain with franco.

You are only a "rojo de mierda"

Bye.