This man has been arrested sixteen times for preaching sedition, terror, and hatred, and then let go. He openly advocates the overthrow of the British government and the establishment of a Muslim state, contrary to British law.

What is happening here? How is it that this Muslim hate-monger has been able to successfully flaunt the British hate-speech law when others who have made much less radical pronuncements that have cost them their careers and their freedom.

Have the British become dhimmis already? Perhaps the British people haven't capitulated, but it seems that the government and the press are on bended knee to these people. Where has proud Britannia gone?

Islam at its best... what are they going to do? Attack London.

What an impressive way to win hearts and minds to Islam.

Kill, kill, kill - that's the gospel of Islam.

YahwehU Akbar

So What.In the UK we've had the IRA and worse in WWII.Stop publishing this unbalanced alarmist drivel.There are plenty of cranks out there who regularly threaten to do horrific things.Believe me,they are not all Muslims,in fact some are native Britons,whilst others come from,yes even the US and Israel.Now what a surprise that must be to your columnists.

Why isn't he locked up? If he says he knows several groups are planning attacks, what he knows should be extracted from him.
My only hope is that our security services are playing an intelligent long game. That his liberty will be a candle to draw out other seditious men to his side. And more importantly, that we need the public to see what these people believe, so that in the long term, all of islam is rejected, because only then will freedom of conscience be safe.

We're onto you, you phony high priest. Islam is pieces of dead human bodies-- not peace. No amount of sacrificial killing of human beings will prove that there is an allah. Or that the koran is just a book and nothing more. (Yeah, we know islam is a dressed-up human sacrifice cult). Killing IS the religion (or whatever you want to call it) called 'islam'. Nothing therefore will ever legitimize islam--or the practice of human sacrifice it has so carefully concealed. Europe, wise up or you'll get blown up.

All of these people and their supporters should be either deported or better yet jailed with no possibility of parole.

Smitty, Islam is perpetrating terror world wide. It is mandated to do so in the Qur'an and the hadith. Read the Qur'an man, read the hadith! Learn about the enemy.

The Dutch newspaper NRC Handelsblad reports that in the period between September 11, 2001 and April 15, 2004, Islamic terrorists have killed at least 7,085 people and wounded 10,132 in 393 attacks around the world.

I doubt that any homegrown terror group can match the deeds of Islam.

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Hundreds of Islamic terror attacks against innocents around the world by the followers of the "Religion of Pieces," the 7th century Islamic death cult that Muhammad developed, abrogating peaceful verses with violent ones, to further his Islamic empire.

If the attacks in the Sudan, etc. were included then the figure would rise to several million.

Abrogation: http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/002.qmt.html#002.106

002.106
YUSUFALI: None of Our revelations do We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, but We substitute something better or similar: Knowest thou not that Allah Hath power over all things?
PICKTHAL: Nothing of our revelation (even a single verse) do we abrogate or cause be forgotten, but we bring (in place) one better or the like thereof. Knowest thou not that Allah is Able to do all things?
SHAKIR: Whatever communications We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, We bring one better than it or like it. Do you not know that Allah has power over all things?

There are 114 Sura (Chapters) in the Qur'an and internal evidence dates some 90 of them. Sura (Chapter) number 5 was revealed as the last, #114 in Mecca. The whole of the this last Sura #5 is misanthropic, violent, and hateful against all peoples including other Muslims:

(5:33) “The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides…”

(5:38) “As to the thief, male or female, cut off his or her hands” (Still practised today in Saudi Arabia)

(5:51) “O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for friends. . . http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/005.qmt.html#005.051

(5:73) “They do blaspheme who say: Allah is one of three in a Trinity”. . .http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/005.qmt.html#005.073

Someone needs to just put this guy in the crosshairs and get it over with. Where's 007.

the answer to the question is targeted assassinations.

We need Austin Powers....Baby

Has anybody spotted the story of the 10-minute shoot-out in a UN Police-post in Mitrovica, Kosovo?

Reportedly, Jordanian officers broke into taunting and insulting their US colleagues over Iraq, then drew their pistols and gunned down 2 American policewomen. One of the murderers was killed immediately in the exchange they opened, 11 persons, in total, were wounded; 4 Jordanians've been arrested.

Does this incident bode well for the notion of UN Envoy to Iraq, Laqtar Brahimi, to replace Coalition forces after 31st June with UN "peace-keepers", drawn predominantly from the armies of the Arab League?

Indeed, does it bode well for the future of the severely compromised, co-opted, corrupted UN itself?

Bakri needs to go the way of Rantisi
but the british are too weak to deal with him.
You cannot put guys like in Jail.

Can't they suspend certain laws and civil liberties for a day or two?

This guy sounds like, when as a child, he used to run around the school yard with a note taped to his back...that read "KICK ME!"

Strangely Lilith I have read the Koran and I do agree with you that there are violent passages in it.But there are surprisingly violent passages in the Bible too.
What does this mean to someone not blinded by ancient religious texts of questionable origin.
It simply means that currently Muslim clerics overseeing backward communities are still trying have their cake and eat it in a world that has moved on.
At the same time extremist Muslims, disaffected by what they see as todays (American) imperialism,are attracted to resist this colonisation of their countries which they perceive to have a better (Islamic) system.They felt the same way about the British,so this isn't just anti Americanism it is anti Imperialism.
What has changed is that the means of delivery of terror has become so much easier in our modern world which makes the colonialists more vulnerable.
We have had Muslim communities living peacefully in the UK for more than 100 years now but there is a need for the Muslim moderates to speak out and identify the culprits.There are signs that this is happening in the UK,although I am sure that many will just dismiss my statement as propagating Muslim propaganda.
What happens elsewhere in the world is another matter so we must be vigilant to foil terrorist intruders as well as those in our midst.Recent events suggest that we are succeeding but obviously it is impossible to guarantee that an attack will not succeed.

The reason OBM is not in jail is because they have not found anything to charge him with yet. It's that simple. The authorities know where he lives and if they really did think he was a terrorist, they could have locked him up along with the other people they imprisoned in Belmarsh in 2001 or 2002. He is a foreign national and they could do this if they wanted.

He is also not a "Holy Man" of any sort, in fact he is not even a religious scholar. His following entirely consists of ill-educated youths who preach in the street where the mosque authorities have no control over them. His organisation now preaches "Salafism" i.e. Wahhabism explicitly, which it didn't a few years ago; this ideology is rejected by the vast majority of mosques in the UK.

smitty

“But there are surprisingly violent passages in the Bible too.”

Indeed there are, primarily in the old testament. However, the problem remains that Islam is fundamentally violent, as uniquely it was founded by an unrepentant, violent warlord, a glorified Attila the Hun. The fact that Islam is the only major religion that advocates death for anyone wanting to leave it should be a big clue to those who bother to look.

“At the same time extremist Muslims, disaffected by what they see as todays (American) imperialism,are attracted to resist this colonisation of their countries which they perceive to have a better (Islamic) system”

Who’s colonizing who? I would say the vast migration into western countries by muslims who have little or no intention of integrating and adopting western values is most definitely colonisation and imperialism. If you bothered to take the blinkers off, you would notice the slow and steady Islamification of Europe. It might not be as dramatic as the shifting tides of the Balkans, but it’s certainly happening. It’s being done by little things like veiled threats against statues of boars in parks, or of de facto no go areas being set up in cities (if you’re a women, try walking around a muslim ghetto in France or else where in Europe uncovered).

As for the muslim community being peaceful, in small numbers they may well be. However as their numbers grow, so does the demands, threats and intimidation. I cannot think of one historic or current precedent where Islam has grown without subjugating the native culture. And there is no reason to believe things are going to be different in Europe if action isn’t taken to prevent it.

You seem to buy into the whole Islamic victim hood mentality. Don’t you even find it just a little bit odd that Islam is currently fighting wars against Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, Christians, Atheists and others?

He added: "We don't make a distinction between civilians and non-civilians, innocents and non-innocents. Only between Muslims and unbelievers. And the life of an unbeliever has no value. It has no sanctity."
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If this isn't hate speech, what is?

It seems to me that UK doesnt need "targeted killings", just enforcement of their hate speech laws. Even _against_ muslims.

Yes Northerner,but do you see Western Muslims fighting Western Jews,Hindus,Christians and others.Most of the violence in the West comes from disaffected Muslim radicals who do not form the mass of Western Muslims.In my particular area there are a good interfaith links which help to reduce incidents of ethnic tension and violence.
You say that because Muslim communities tend to remain separated from the rest of the community they are colonising us.I assume you mean that you feel threatened by their presence and find their culture alien and based upon your perception of ancient historical precedent and the behaviour of Muslim communities in backward countries feel you will be overun by those in the UK. Well it is often said that the more enterprising individuals emigrate from their homeland and there is ample evidence to suggest that this is true of Muslims as well as other immigrants in the case of the UK.After all we have had established Muslim communities in the UK since 1900.
As to Muslim sensibilities one wouldn't offer a strict Jew roast pork for dinner either,so if Muslims wish to follow custom in their locality then what is wrong in that provided they do not break UK laws.
It may be true that women cannot walk in safety in French Muslim communities but I am not aware that non Muslim women wearing modest dress in UK Muslim areas are at risk.I see plenty of women in European dress in places like Turkey which is secular but Muslim.
No I don't buy into the victimised Muslim mentality you think I do.The Muslim community does need to police itself better and speak out against Muslims who break our laws.Maybe you haven't seen the document issued by the Muslim Council of Britain concerning terrorism.It is worth a read even if one doesn't think it possible that Muslims could be anything other than violent.

Smitty,

Where is this ample evidence that the UK is importing the crème de la crème of the Islamic world? You have a very high degree of faith in the UK immigration screening process if you think only the best and brightest are being allowed through. In fact the situation is they probably haven’t a clue who they are letting in. The reality is the UK, like other European countries, have signed away and effectively lost control over its own borders in the 1980s.

You say there has been muslims in the UK since 1900. So what. There’s been Hindus, Sikhs and Parsis in the UK for just as long. Unlike muslims they don’t demand endless special privileges, exemptions or find offence in the indigenous culture. Instead they just go about their business and become part of British life.

Are all muslims violent? No of course not. But of the non-violent ones, far too many are at best indifferent to western values. Far too many justify/excuse or ignore the actions of their violent co-religionists. Far too many gloss over the extremism of their own religion.

As for Turkey. Yes it is secular, but it is kept that way by the might of the military. It is in effect secular at gun point. Remove that element from Turkish politics, and the clerics would be taking over like a shot.

No matter how you want to dress it up, Islam is incompatible with modern western thought. You may want to believe muslims living in the west have or will shortly all become westernized, but all the gloating and cheering from Europe’s Islamic street
after 9/11, the lack of any popular demonstration of opposition to terrorism, even the Salman Rushdie affair shows otherwise.

In my opinion, our British intelligence is leaving these guys alone (or so it may look on the surface) for a purpose. Abu Hamza & Omri Bakri are like magnets to all the other jihadists out there, so it serves surveillance purposes better to just leave them be, in order to draw all the other 'lice out of the woodwork'. Rest assured our MI5/6 will be monitoring them 24-7.

"but the british are too weak to deal with him."
No David, we are not.In todays J.W. articles alone, the Brits have foiled 2 potential terrorist plots. Our intelligence services are no pushovers. If they or our government are being quiet about something, it will be for a reason.