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Masked Palestinian militants, members of the Popular Resistance Committees, pray with their Rocket Propelled Grenade launchers in the southern Gaza Strip refugee camp of Rafah, during a rally supporting the attack in which a 34-year-old Israeli settler and her four children were killed(AFP)
While the U.S. wrings it hands over the abuse of Iraqi prisoners, Palestinian jihadis go for extra points in a recent terror attack. From the Jersusalem Post:
Early Sunday evening at least three Palestinian terrorists opened fire shooting at several hundred mourners gathered at the site where Tali Hatuel and her four daughters were gunned down and murdered on the Kissufim crossing a week ago.No one was wounded in the attack. Several residents were treated for shock. IDF forces spotted three terrorists, a tank fired a shell hitting two and the third was hit by light weapons.
Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades claimed responsibility for the attack.
Eran Shterenberg spokesman for the Gaza Coast Regional Council said several terrorists approached the road and opened fire. Soldiers and armed residents returned fire as women, babies and children lay on the ground and crouched near parked cars seeking cover from the gunfire. A bulletproof bus drove up to the site and women and children boarded it as residents armed with weapons stood watch.
Posted by Robert at May 9, 2004 4:48 PM
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Thank You God! Maybe a time for a little whop as--?
The American Tribe
God Bless the USA and all who Fight with her give them Strength and Courage to stay the Course to Victory Amen
Posted by: Catherine at May 9, 2004 5:39 PMSadly this is not the first time "Palestinians" have fired on mourners. It seems nothing is sacred or too low for the "Palestinians".
Posted by: Lily at May 9, 2004 5:58 PMDoes anyone know the background of the victims? The children were certainly innocents. And the mother - was she a poor Jewish immigrant forced into a settlement for economic reasons or a Jewish fundamentalist? I'm sorry, but there are some definite moral issues with Israeli settlers that this forum fails to address. A large number of the Israeli settlers are not that different from fundamentalist Muslims who lay claim to parts of Spain. Until people accept that religious texts written more than a thousands years ago are nothing more than mythos, we're in for some crazy times.
Posted by: Jeff at May 9, 2004 5:59 PMmore of allah's faithful. I know the answer.
stop all support of Isreal. as sosn as the arabs know this they will attack and Isreal will wipe them off the face of the earth
Posted by: dog at May 9, 2004 6:47 PM"The children were certainly innocents."
Don't speak so soon, Jeff. I agree with you, but I have heard Muslims, even relatively "moderate" Westerners, support the Palestinians' attacks on children; Israel requires mandatory military service for young people who reach the age of majority.
Therefore, even a nursing infant is another "Zionazi" in training. Funny that they should hold that view of the Jews, given that they're (Palestinians) better known for ruthless exploitation of children.
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Posted by: Ananda at May 9, 2004 7:04 PMSo Jeff, I sincerely hope you're not making the argument that the mother deserved to be murdered. Even if she had been "guilty" of being a fundamentalist Jew, does that mean she got what she deserved?
The bigger moral issue, by far, is that of Palestinian "governance," if that is indeed the word for it. Any culture that celebrates those sorts of attacks is without doubt beyond any sort of reasoned dialogue and, therefore, logic would dictate that one either a) build a strong defense, such as the Israeli partition, or b) destroy the culture that inculcates its young to believe that those sorts of atrocities are pleasing to God.
The bottom line is that only democratic reform will allow for realistic peace prospects. Democracies don't go to war with each other; they debate each other to death.
Whatever moral issues there may be regarding Jewish settlements in Gaza, they certainly don't warrant a death penalty, especially as those settlements are destined to be removed in any case. Those attacks make sense only if viewed through the prism of the "Israel is illegitimate" fever swamp that is the current Arab middle east.
Posted by: Doug at May 9, 2004 9:13 PMAnd yet America is called on the carpet because of a few abuses of prisoners by a handful of soldiers.
And a great nation who respects the rights of all religions apologizes to the arab world only because we hold ourselves to a higher standard of religious beliefs even though we are beguiled as infidels by the arrogance of a religion who believes they are above all others because of the teachings of the Quran.
And through all these disgusting abominable murderous crimes that are continuosly being committed by radical muslim thugs, who kill women and children and then they are embraced as somekind of heroes for their brave and monsterous acts.
Where is the individual heart and soul of these people who even send their own children to commit suicide. How can they have such dark hearts and souls?
Ishmael father of the Arab people and son of Abraham, where did you venture that you would lead your people into such a morass of mans inhumanity to man?
Posted by: Mackie at May 9, 2004 9:17 PM"Deal with the issues causing hate and terrorism will disappear......"
Fine idea, but I have no plans to tell my wife to start wearing a burqa, nor do I intend to ever revere mohammed, nor will I ever live under sharia.
After all, isn't complete surrender to islam the only way to make the hate disappear?
Posted by: Doug at May 9, 2004 9:40 PMSo where's the outrage at this new low by the Arabs? I think they have opened the gates for Israel to fire on the next terrorist funeral. Let it be so.
Posted by: Helen at May 9, 2004 11:50 PMIs this the event where the Palestinian (men) were dressed as women? I know there were two Palestinian cross dressers killed by Israeli Forces. I was out yesterday and only caught the tail end of the story.
To Hard Truth, the Arabs can hate me all they want, they can also kiss my American made ass. We owe them nothing, and their opinion doesn't matter to me. They've proven, not as a whole people, but many of them are nothing but a load of lying, sneaking, hypocrites. So, to hell with them.
It's time this country bands together to kill off this fungus. Instead of hurling interpretations of why this war is on, we need to remember that.....the war is on, and it's us against them. I will not kiss Arabian ass.....and I think many will agree. That's not how this nation was founded, and it's not how I plan to go out.
Posted by: DCWatson at May 10, 2004 7:14 AMIt is indeed a different world after 9/11 but most of the people in this country have put up their flags and follow the principles of spain. If we do what they want they will leave us alone. If this country dosen't wake up we will have the great decision maker as out next president. he will fit right in with that great unamerican socity called the UN. we need to wake up this contury to the fact that those murdering thugs want to kill us and take this country from us and our great "leaders" are going to allow this to happen in the interest of "PC" take the gloves off of the military and do what needs to be done.
Posted by: dog at May 10, 2004 8:25 AMIf, in a classroom, some children were making life miserable for the other children, would the teacher take the victims out? No!! The bullies would be taken out! Why should Jews have to leave their homes, farms, factories, etc??? In many cases, these factories and farms provide work for 'palestinians.' In my small city, Arabs go freely into shops and coffee houses. Nobody looks twice at them (well, maybe, some people look); but they are treated no differently than Jews when being checked before going into the supermarket. So, if Arabs can live among Jews here in Israel, why can't Jews live among Arabs? I'll tell you why - ANTI-SEMITISM! JEW HATRED! Their children are being raised no differently than the children of Nazis were raised. The so-called 'occupation' is a red herring. There really is no 'occupation' at the moment. They are free to manage their own affairs - if only they would. But instead of governing themselves in a normal way, hoodlums roam the streets of cities in the PA making life hell for the residents. There is no law. There is no order. Children don't play basketball or soccer. They run after the jihadists with their weapons and are used as shields. Is this the way to raise children to be normal adults??? When we Jews were restricted to ghettos we made sure to educate our children - there were classes in all kinds of subects: reading, math, music, and Torah. etc. In short, they were protected. The PA should be brought to the Hague World Court on charges of child abuse, among other charges!
Posted by: Chaya Eitan at May 10, 2004 9:00 AM??? Will we allow this to Happen when the Mexicans start attack-ing our pubs because they think the whole west coast is Part of Mexico. Well when thy fire rockets at those in San-Deago will the American People just walk into the Sea? I think not! We will kick But- ! Now we need to get our State Department's Head out of their ass-- and see the Truth! Israel was attcked and won the land. Their People are being Killed let them fight their war, and the whole World will be better off for it! They will have to bring out the Big guns. The Dem.'s have been playing with them for years play-ing both sides of the fence. Mostly lean-ing for the oil side well this will back fire on us all. When Israel has had enough and nukes the whole middle east you can for-get oil and the EU well it will cut the life span of them by a-lot. These Muslums are spread-ing the seed of hate and must reform or be killed no other Answer. Harden your hearts and for-give yourselfs for what we have to do! Remember Japan had 2nukes dropped and people still live on that Island!!
Part of the American Tribe
Posted by: Catherine at May 10, 2004 9:01 AMI don't think the fence jumpers/swimmers want to start attacking our pubs......that's holy ground and they will be demolished......Actually, they're tresspassing, the illegal ones, so shouldn't the be prosecuted?
Posted by: DCWatson at May 10, 2004 9:16 AMJeff,
You are sick, disgusting MORON. The Israeli's living in THAT PART OF ISRAEL are NOT MILITANTS.
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHEN YOU'VE HEARD OF ISRAELIS BLOWING UP AND SHOOTING CHILDREN and PREGNANT WOMEN.
I have only ONE WISH FOR YOU: I will PRAY that you or YOUR FAMILY be treated as the Israeli's have by these MONSTERS. Who knows? The next terror strike against America could blow to bits YOU AND YOUR FAMILY.
You are sick, hypocrital DISGUSTING excuse for a HUMAN BEING. I need to coin a new term for the likes of YOU>
LM
DCW,
You have not been keep-en up on currant events they are shooting at our border portrol all the time they are run-ing arabs and other Mulsums into this country they are vote-ing in spanish in America they get welfare and live in Mexico by have-ing a p.o.box at Mail-box-ect. their are more Mexicians in Jail than Americans don't think they are in Jail for steal-ing Bread get your head out of the sand!
Part of the American Tribe
Posted by: Catherine at May 10, 2004 10:06 AMHi Catherine, I'm on your side. I'd like to blast every one of the illegals trying to enter our country right off the fence.
However, it appears that through other agencies, they're still thinking of giving these slugs amnesty. I'm quite up on the Border Patrol being shot at. For some reason or another, there is a sympathetic view of illegals by the leftys in this country, not to mention the Americans that marry them.
As far as I'm concerned, if they jump on welfare, (which shouldn't ever happen) then we are paying for them, and should have a say with regard to their fate. I know what I'd suggest.
Amnesty is a horrible idea. They broke our law to get in here, they should be punished, and then sent back to the hellhole they came from.
Posted by: DCWatson at May 10, 2004 1:58 PMCatherine, by the way......With regard to there being more mexicans in our jails than Americans, you're slightly miscalculated. Of all inmates in American prisons, roughly 30% are illegal aliens.
A staggering number indeed. And lastly, I kinda like you, I bet you have fire in your eyes over this whole Illegal and Muslim mess. That being said, my head isn't in the sand. UMMMMMKAY?
Posted by: DCWatson at May 10, 2004 2:17 PMI FIND ALL THE COMMENTS POSTED VERY INTERESTING. ILLEGALS GET KICKED OUT, NO MORE WELFARE NO MORE AID TO MEXICO, AND THE ONLY WAY TO DO IT IS STOP PAYING TAXES FOR THIS. I KNOW IT'S A PIE IN THE SKY IDEA, BUT THE ONLY THING POLITICANS UNDERSTAND IS MONEY.
ISLAM AND MUSLEMS, AND THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A RADICAL MUSLEM, THEY ARE FOLLOWING THE TRUE TEACHINGS OF THE ONE AND ONLY (DRUM ROLL PLEASE) MUHAMMUD. KEEP A WATCHFUL EYE ON THEM AS THERE GOAL IS A TOTAL WORLD DEVOTED TO ISLAM AND THE NEAR GREAT ALLAH HIMSELF.
WE ARE IN VERY DANGEROUS TIMES AND I AM SO RELEAVED TO SEE OTHERS WHO KNOW WHAT THE TRUTH OF THIS ISLAM REALLY IS, NOW LET'S SPREAD THE WORD.
I do like to mention how many times the Israeli military did shoot at palestinian prayers at the al Aqsa mosque. I think Robert did forget to mention the number, and i think the Palestinians just wanted revenge.
thanks
Posted by: Tarek at May 10, 2004 5:09 PMWHy yes, Tarek. I am sure we would all like some numbers. What numbers do you have? Backed up by a little evidence of course. The bottom line is that PLO dirtbags hide in mosques and behind children to fire their weapons.
Posted by: shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh at May 10, 2004 8:55 PMKeithjoy:
Jihad Watch is not the proper forum for the kind of foul language you are spewing out. If you can`t be civil, and objective in sharing your opinions and comments, then this is not the right place for you.
If you persist ,I will ask Robert Spencer to remove you from this website.
Thanks
Posted by: Mackie at May 10, 2004 9:57 PMtarek,
Robert did not For-get most of those death's you count is the pali-arabs blow-ing them selfs up. Because the love Death you have not taught them well life is sweet and we love it. If you want Death we can help you we would like to live in peace but we are not French we won't lay down.
Part of the American Tribe
God Bless the USA and her Fighting Forces and All who Fight with her give Them Strength and Courage to stay the Course to Victory against the evil set upon Us Amen
If the Palestinians would simply nomad themselves to Jordan, there will be less peoblems. This conflict isn't about land or boundries, it's about the arabs wanting Israel's demise. Plain and simple.
Giving up land is not going to solve any of this. All Palestinians should remove themselves from the Gaza Strip and West Bank immediately.
Catherine
No, i dont mean the ones that blow themselves out, but the number of times the Israeli army preached the Aqsa amosque and killed tens of people. That was even before the Intifada, and although both are wrong, and i do not support any murder of prayers, but these facts have been blackened in the american media.
thanks
Posted by: Tarek at May 12, 2004 11:15 AMWatson
Give me one justification for the palestinians to "remove" themselves from the gaza strip and the west bank? Wasnt that land theirs before 1967? Where would they go? Arab countries will not allow them in.
Israel has to leave the west bank and the gaza strip, with some military free zones, in order to get their security.
thanks
Posted by: Tarek at May 12, 2004 11:18 AMShhhhhhhhhh
Actually i could mention some numbers, but as you people dont like aljazeera so why bother? I would like to mention that Israeli soldiers during their excursions into palestine take cover it women and children, although they have choppers and air support and even tanks. Why do you object when the palestinians do that. It is inhuman FOR BOTH SIDES. I would like to mention that what started the intifada in the first place was ariel sharon preaching the Aqsa Mosque. Cant you see that Israel is as into it as palestinians are?
thanks
Posted by: Tarek at May 12, 2004 11:23 AM

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