anybody know what is being done about jihad here in the usa by our government, i live in calif. and the bourders are pretty much still open. the churches in this country are also pretty much turning their heads from the muslim threat, any thoughts.
mike @ michaellindabeebe@sbcglobal.net

I don't understand how terrorists can pull off more dangerous attacks after 9/11, when they are under intense scrutiny, than before 9/11 when they had intact organizations and more freedom to operate.

Let's face it, until 9/11 terorists could come and go as they wished. Known suspects boarded planes, cross borders, communicated. With all that freedom to operate, the worst they could do was sneak some box cutters onto airplanes (yes, bad enough). It seems to me if they could have gone nuclear they would have then.

Am I now reading between the lines to words like 'Iran' and 'Pakistan'?

If God forbid a nuke is used by some Muslim terrorist group in the US, it will be the beginning of the end of Islam in the US. I for one will target groups like CAIR, WAMY and other fronts which claim to be "civil rights" groups. The terrorist are here among us, driving cabs, working at supermarkets, cutting your lawn,, they are here and need to be dealt with severely. When in the hell is this country going to wake up. Stop the PC bullshit and take the gloves off, drive them out this country once and for all

'Iran' Give us liberty or we give you death

Luigi,
You have not been keep-en up on current events the Dem.'s don't want law enforcement to do any thing to the Mulsums because that is their cash cow! Get your head out of the sand what are you doing? Are you out their spy-en on your neigbor or even know what they talk about when you are not around? This is a big Country and we do not have enough law-men to be everywhere nor do we want that we the American tribe have to help. Our for-fathers said so in the constuion Know your Neigbors ask people if that is your bag if you see one alone be part of the Tribe. Tell your freinds to do the same, and Remember a gun in hand is worth two cops on the phone that is the American way that is what our grand-Parents did and we are cut from the same cloth.
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Market sell-ing off Remember before 9/11 and the sall off in air-line stocks well hope some one is looking today. The Money where it is selling and i8f it is Muslum or China we know they are in it up to their necks if the China-es whant us to pay the deat we will do what the mixicians did! sorry no denaro
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Keep your Eyes open

Catherine,

Don't be clueless and believe only what you're told by the right. In past elections, the Moslem-American vote and funding has ALWAYS gone to the GOP. The Saudi Ambassador's nickname is "Bandar Bush" not "Bandar Kerry". It was your guy George who posed for family pictures with terrorist fund-raiser Sami al-Arian in Tampa as thanks for delivering the Arab vote in Florida. It was Rove who brought al-Arian's son (nicknamed "big guy" by Bush) to the White House as a thank you.

If you're going to talk about cash cows, follow the money not the propaganda.

For those of you who don't know the difference, what they're talking about is NOT a nuclear device like an A Bomb. What they're talking about is a radiological device. That doesn't need weapons grade uranium or plutonium. It just needs some radioactive waste from a hospital or industrial plant. That doesn't need sophisticated machining or engineering, it just needs a way to glue powdered waste to the outside of a firecracker. The goal isn't a nuclear explosion, the goal is nuclear contamination, areas of cities nobody can enter for decades and lots of people dying of cancer in a few years.

A point that has been made on other sites is that terrorists could leave out the bomb part of the dirty bomb and just spread finely powdered material in a building or just glue the material to a wall at a place where a lot of people are passing by.

Nowadays I hope police are doing a routine check with radiation sensors whenever a bomb has been set of. It is done very quickly if they have the right equipment.

I am surprised terrorists havent tried spreading radioactive materials so far. There are a LOT of radioactive sources in the world used for legitimate purposes. In large parts of the world controls are very lax, like it was in USA until recently.

http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/CalgarySun/News/2004/05/09/453103.html
"Airport security plants fake explosives in wrong suitcase"

"MONTREAL -- An airport security exercise went the way of a movie farce after TNT was planted in the luggage of an unwitting passenger instead of the bags of a security agent."

[snip]

"The passenger and his baggage were also able to leave the airport without security detecting the explosives."

Check your suitcase!

Mike Pitcures so did Clinton!
pol ant-cair show-es that only 3% muslums voted for the GOP in 2000 guess you are not keep-ing up on current events.

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If a dirty bomb is detonated in a western city I suppose it's only fair that a dirty bomb be detonated in Mecca.

Hey guys,

Check this out.
Scroll down and click on "the spreading of Islam" (Left hand side)
Fast forward (If you don't want to watch all the jihadi propaganda twaddle) in to about 3mins 50 seconds-ish, to the start of a segment on where/how Islam has spread across parts of the world.
Unbelievable.
(Well...not really)

Regards,
kc

Mike once again you have watched to many movies and got it mixed up with real life. A shower will get rid of the cantamanet and your life might be shortened by a few years clean up will be a pain in the ass, but will be done. Yor hollywood got the Xeon spill wrong too! hollywood got Washinton Mt. Hellen wrong too!
try not to scare informed people it does not work

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God Bless the USA and her Fighting Forces and All who Fifgt with her give them Strength and Courage to stay the course to Victory Amen

Lemon

Why dont you detonate it in mecca, for then not only "radical muslims" could be termed terrorists, but also americans. Is that what you people think of, an eye for an eye, as in the law of the jungle, or a solution to the whole crisis. Ask yourselves that question. If they did kill 3000 americans, should you go over and kill a million? Is that what Jesus christ told you?

thanks

Why are we waiting for a dirty bomb to go off, we need to drop some of the low level nukes we have available and take this fight to where it belongs which is wear ever moslums are, Yes I am an American Infidel.

tarek,
What do you mean If? You Ain't go-ing to take away booz short skirts or any thing else Away from the American people! We love our freedom!
We are Win-ing!!!!
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God Bless the USA and All who Fight with her give Them Strength and Courage to stay the Course to Victory Amen

Catherine

You are missing my point that i mentioned earlier millions of times. WE DONT WANT THE OCCUPATION OF THE WEST, WE WANT PEACEFUL COEXISTENCE. Keep your short skirts, keep your porn magazines, keep your alcohol. I am indifferent. I want to survive in peace. I am sure many people have the same thoughts in their heads.

Terrorism sucks, so ok i did mention that. Fight it on low profile. Dont kill thousands of civilians. I am sure the CIA could plant an agent in any radical muslim groups, and destroy them from the inside. I do agree that the muslim world is passive about the condemnation of these groups, but NOBODY, as in no government, supported them. Cant you leave us alone?

thanks

Strategic nuclear bombing of the dar el-Islam ought to take a graduated approach.

When faced with the necessity to "Groznify" an Iraqi city, the option of a mini-nuke (to serve as example to all other recalcitrants) should be favoured as an alternative.

When the time comes to neutralize Iran's clandestine atomic weapons program, nukes'll be invaluable.

Should things go even worse regionally and the poison in Iraq contaminate Egypt, old-fashioned dirty bombs should be dropped on the Aswan Dam, delivering the mother of all Nile floods and seeding the banks of the River with isotopes, kissing goodbye to 10,000 years of habitation there, for the next 20 millennia.

If the Arabs and Moslems grow excessively fired up and inflict serious reversals on the US and its Allies, then, by all means, launch a cruise-missile smack into the black stone of the Qaaba in Mecca and one into the Grand Mosque of Medina, vapourizing both.

This is bound to get the rabid Arabs and Moslems' attention, making them pause, scratch their heads, and realistically ponder whether they're following the right track by pursuing the planetary Jihad, or if, possibly, their thrust - and all that underpins it - could be sorely mistaken (since Allah's wrought no miracles to spare their vital sites).

Causing them to question what they superstitiously hold to be pre-ordained (their triumph in every corner of the Earth) will spell the beginning of their defeat - their self-induced darkness will start to dissolve as soon as they admit even a modicum of light to shine into their atavism.

The moral justification for the mega-deaths is elementary: they commenced this existential war (if things do actually brew up into such a conflict, as feared); the tally of casualties caused would nonetheless be smaller in quantity if their arch-genocidal, global Jihad would be left unsatisfactorily challenged, to ravage the world unhindered, plunging it into a brutal Dark Age in perpetuity (as they daily plot to be its "predestined" fate).

Indeed, it's a cold calculus, based purely upon the greatest good for the biggest number - but then, that's Machtspolitik (the salient principle when forced into the law of the jungle by an implacable antagonist) for you.

Tarek:

I'm delighted to see the moderation evinced in your posting re peaceful co-existence!

However, I lived in Missouri and must follow the local motto: "Show Me". This means that WORDS, frankly, are not enough - "by their WORKS shall ye know them", to quote the Bible: "talk's cheap". (For instance, your "habibi" Yasir Arafat's MOUTHINGS of peace fill volumes, but his DEEDS fill cemeteries.)

How about some much-needed, preliminary confidence-building on the Arab and Moslem behalf, commencing with the prompt recognition of Israel by every Arab League and Organization of Islamic Conference's member, leading to a viable 2-State solution for the new, non-terrorist "Palestine", next to the Jewish State?

Possibly it could kick off with honest Arab compliance with the initial step of the Mideast Quartet's "Roadmap", the obvious sine-qua-non for any peace, the immediate, total dismantling of the "Palestinian" terror apparatus, eh?

(Israel would naturally reciprocate straight away in peace-making by its withdrawal from Gaza, as the brave, visionary Mr Sharon's pledged to do, despite the opposition of his Party.)

Returning to the topic of nukes, pray, gentle reader, understand that I'm not speaking of their indiscriminate or promiscuous use: only when necessary, and then, just selectively, a carefully measured application.

Nevertheless, I must echo the words of Barry Goldwater, Republican presidential candidate in 1964: "Extremism in the defence of liberty is no vice".

Additionally, I do reflect on those of the late Dr Edward Teller (Father of the H-Bomb), who saw the period when America possessed the monopoly of nuclear arms, from 1945 till 1949, as a "golden window of opportunity", which - if it hadn't been squandered by the folly of politicians, the media, academics, churches, etc ("- Round up the usual suspects!") - would have totally negated the advent of 40+ wasted years of Cold War.

The USA is again in this position of '45 - '49: it has nukes, but its mortal enemy, so far, does not - well, definitely not sufficient to constitute any strategic, "war-fighting capability", though they could wreak some horrific, but ultimately limited, damage (if they manage to get hold of Pakistan's atomic armoury of 35 to 50 medium- and intermediate-range nuclear-tipped missiles).

When discussing War, it's hard not to employ clichés, language that goes back to Homeric times and earlier, but, truly, "there's no substitute for victory".

Any warm and fuzzy "moral bonus" that blocks the victory of the US, its Allies and associates in the death-struggle that this conflict's verging upon will be very temporary, coming at the price of the survival of civilization itself. Not worth it, even counting the human and ecological harm which, unfortunately, will be the collateral cost. That could be alleviated, painfully, but eventually; defeat would be permanent.

Invidious, grim choices - but to demur now would be tantamount to ushering in a future of eternal ruin, on every level.

Well said, HG!

tarek,
When your people stop killing Jews and All other People of different Faith's we will think about get-ting Along ,but so far we have not been able to trust you that is a shame. Found some thing in your book the qur'an 5:32 says: "on that account we ordained for the Children of Israel that if anyone slew a person unless it be in retaliation for murder or spreding mischief in the land it will be as if he slew all mankind" and if anyone saved a life it would be as if he saved all mankind"

Tarek if you believe this why are the mulsums not happy about save-ing the iraqi people from the burcher from baggdad?
What happens when arabs who attack women and baby Jews, and those who morn! Is this not against your Laws.
What will happen when Israel finily puts a few cluster bombs in that crowd of morners? As your law calls for. Will you say it it was just as your law says to do?
This hit-ting and cry-ing ain't going to work any-more! We see your peice! We want Peace, but not the kind you offer!

Sewage plant bombed dumped sewage into the river in Wa. State last night. Are you working to stop your people to help stop these kind of things? All I hear from you is a lot of wien-ing that may work in france but not in America.

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God Bless the USA and All who Fight with her give Them Strength and Courage to stay the Course to Victory Amen

Catherine:

Where did you hear about a sewage plant being bombed? I can't find the story.

Tarek,

I never said I was Christian. I was simply pointing out that people who sit around talking about committing atrocities shouldn't be surprised if it comes back to bite them if they take the next step in committing atrocities.If a dirty bomb is exploded in a western city no one should believe that a dirty bomb can't be exploded in the middle east. A dirty bomb could be cleaned up with difficulty and great expense in the US or Europe. Muslims in the middle east could never recover from a dirty bomb on their soil. That's food for thought that moderate Muslims should think about as they again and again fail to PUBLlCLY condemn terrorists.While Muslims have no problem marching worldwide to protest a head scraf ban in France. Only in Morroco have I seen Muslims marching against terrorism.

Cgw, Last night Late on the hour news fox had some vid feed and today there was a plastic factory all showed before hearings then feed cut and something about china an nukes an trouble on the wire could not catch that one