as a regular working american i find it interesting that
If we tried to take all muslims and kick them out of the country the world would crap its pants

But if muslims butcher people LIVE on video as long as its a non muslim (hey its ok)

Islam is a LIE it is from the devil and we in america are sick and tired of hearing this bs
We should begin kicking muslims out of our country as we cannot trust them NONE of them.

(this video although sick just proves what we have always known about islam).

These muslims looked like a bunch of animals and should be treated as such.

Summary: The gruesome, publicized execution of a private American citizen, Nick Berg, purportedly in "revenge" for the Abu Ghraib prison abuses, should have convinced you by now that the quest for Arab sanction of American actions is a chimera. Not even your unjustified apology for the prison abuses has won you or this country the "hearts and minds" of the Arab Street. Whether the killers were "insurgents" or Al-Quada linked terrorists, is completely irrelevant.

http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?ID=3684

in all honesty, i think mr. berg, might have been testing the waters and fell in. the beheading of an american citizen is appalling and is the tipical mo for the muslim; however, he might have well have the star of david around his neck, then a passport marked from israel. i truely believe in his own way mr. berg was looking for something that would answer some questions he might have had about the israel/muslim issues. he should be remembered as an american that showed the world the brutallity of the muslim islamic world.

The fact that so many Arabs and muslims in the West appear to condemn the beheading and then add the justification tag of "But" or "However" really opens the door for wondering if Islam is just a perverted doctrine by a man that heard voices in his head that may have been Satan.
With all the excuses for savagery in Islam by
using "but" as the arguement,I think those Muslims will end up sliding all the way down to hell on their "Butts".

NICK Berg was beheaded for one reason ALONE.
BECAUSE HE WAS A JEW
Daniel Pearl was beheaded for one reason alone
BECAUSE HE WAS A JEW
Whilst the immoral journalists of the world try to find excuses in the abuse of prisoners, they act as dhimmmies for the isalmofascists and recruiting agents for Al qaeda who are laughing saying "we told you so".
OF course no one but the MURDERERS themselves will say it as Omar SHeik did for daniel in open court.
The liberal press are not only guilty of gross immorality in their coverage of ME events but things are now approaching the treasonable !
How Ironic that the same immoral reporting of Israeli events by journalists of the BBC france2 the guardian the independant, le monde et al is now being directed at fanning the the Flames of hatred towards the US.
The pirhanas will not let go until they have consumed GWB and the coalition.
Babies will be burnt Alive
Jews will be murdered in Islamic rituals
Women raped and murdered.

All this means NOTHING compared to harming of one hair on the head of an islamist thug killer who has attacked US soldiers with stolen AK47s.

What kind of world has this become ?
Stop buying these Newspapers
the Age
the Sydney morning herald.
hit them where it hurts most.
And another thing BERG was MURDERED not executed.
that's what you do to a serial killer.

Yes it's great that the iraqis will be playing as a team at the Olympics. Shame they do not play basketball.
I'm sure they will be a great bunch of guys a la zayed who posts on healingiraq.
you are right, We must focus on the good stories coming out of Iraq in defiance of the press that only tries to sweep them under the carpet in their efforts to discredit the alliance.
i'm praying that there will not be a repeat of Munich though.

Everyone bitches about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and waht to do with the Muslim scum but none ever offered any final solution

My final solution involves barbed wire,guard towers,crematorium and Zyklon B.Remember, bullets are expensive. Zyklon B is more effective and less costs incurred per head.

Since we already have the first two elements in Gaza and West Bank, all that needs to be done are crematoriums so that we can burn all these Muslim filth and convert them to compost to be used as fertilizer,Every Palestinian man,woman and child can be turned into useful by-products for a change.

MUSLIM FILTH MAKES GOOD COMPOST

I want to see the video which is Nick Berg held. It's great for Iraq. Thank for Al Qeada.

It was not very smart of him to go into Iraq with an Israeli stamp in his passport.

all afgan, and the dam telebeebs over there should get all there fingernails ripped off one by one . then salt poored on them. then lemon juice. then chop off an inch of them at a time startin with the fingers until they are screaming in pain. if you bastards get to do that to a us citizen then you fuckin camel riders should shave off your bitches mustaches and let us chop ther hold body into pieces.

yo Sheva I understand from your comment that you are a muslim, I worked this out as it shows hatred towards a westener and not a shred of disgust toward a totally disgusting murder, you are representative of your entire race.Also comments such as yours really proove that realistic sites such as this one, that bring to light what the warmongering tribes of psycopaths (that are the islamic extremists)are really all about, are 100% accurate.And don't give me any bullshit about 'Islam is about peace' and 'real muslims condemn this' because it just doesn't wash anymore you are all as bad , the ones that don't do terrorism are spectators that enjoy watching it, and certainly do squat to stop it you all hate americans, brits, jews and europeans and would like to see us all wiped off the face of the earth : well the feeling is mutual war-lovers!

If their are any muslims or muslim lovers logged on at the moment could you please tell me why you force your women to cover up their faces practically ban them from having opinions or indeed a life. I don't know how well informed you are about western culture but mot of us treat are women with respect or at least like equals rather than degrading them. There's no wonder your actions are so babaric when your culture is so prmitive.

Excuse me Chaya but we're at war with Iraq but if an iraqi is spotted walking around London or New York they are not immediately grabbed by allied troops and decapitated because he's from the country of our enemy. Shows how babaric you muslims really are eh?

Dear everyone who is giving shit to the Muslims, after what all the Americans put them through, do you people honestly think they would just sit there and let it happen? The Americans get away with everything just because they are the most powerful. The power got to everyones heads and they started pushing the limits in the jail cells. I think if a nation started to beat and rape the Americans Bush would get pretty pissed off. Not to mention, yes Berg's murder was unnecessary, they should of bombed a US shelter in Iraq. I believe that the innocent should not be part of this. Not to mention I believe Bush should die. He's a terrible president because ever since he became president there's been nothing but war. When it comes to war, he makes TERRIBLE decisions, puting his people in danger and not to mention me, a Hungarian living in Canada. So just because war is between an Arab country, why go hating on everyone? I have just one more word to say... prejudice.

Dear Sara~ Do you remember something called 911? Do you remember 3000+ lives snuffed out by the very scum who executed Berg? Do you remember the hundreds of Thousands in mass graves, thanks to Saddam? The Million+ Saddam killed in several wars?

A great many, even in Saddam's wars, were innocents. The people who killed Berg Cheer that kind of slaughter.

You need about a 1000 hours of history studies. I suggest you start with the islamic invasion of Europe in the first millenium AD. I just hope people wake up the things YOU ignore, before YOU end up blown to bits by the same people you are defending.

The thing that Really irks me, is people who hit-and-run. They make their Idiotic statements and don't stick around for rebuttal.

You want to speak of Prejudice, Sara? Just wait until Sharia is incorporated into Canadian law. Wait a moment- do you even KNOW what Sharia is? Keep reading the articles on this site. Oh wait, reading would TEACH you something.

Feh. Sorry about the rant, guys. Small minds and another bad night's sleep run together to irritate me.

Hey Sara...

I am praying for you and for the people (your parents)that produced such a hate filled barbaric child as youself.

It must have taken them years to supress your natural logic and compassion and replace them with lies and retotic...

It must be nice to see the world though a keyhole called Islam...Hopefully some day soon your eye will behold the bigger picture through on open intellectual door...Maybe then the concept of truth, love and justice will dawn in your heart.

Maybe.... But...Brain washing is hard to overcome

Dear Sara,

Threatening a sitting president is a felony. Enjoy your impending visit from the Secret Service.

Dear all

"In the Name of Allah most gracious most merciful"

"Fight in the cause of God those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for God loveth not transgressors. (The Noble Quran, 2:190)"

The killing of Mr.Berg is sad as it is tragic. As a Palestinian and a Muslim I find groups like Al-qaida in contradiction to my faith and the cause of the Muslim world. I also believe that the opinions expressed on this forum and website in general are parallel to that expressed by radical “Islam”. Radical “Christianity” is as much guilty of crimes against the Arab and Muslim world if not more so as groups like Al-Qaida. As a Muslim who believes in God and the end of days I believe only God can judge my fellow man.

I as a Palestinian Muslim represent the majority of Muslims whose opinions and thoughts are censored in western media and whose voice is muted in order to cover up the true nature of Islam. My father is a devout Muslim who has taught me what I believe is the true nature of Islam. History has proven that Islam can coexist among other faiths in peace and harmony. Palestine has a strong and integral Christian community who are as proud of their identity and history just as much as their Muslim counterparts. I am certain that many of the people who post their hate mongering Muslim hating ideology on this forum are as guilty as those who they believe are “evil”. To equate Israel’s terrorism against my people with the Jewish faith is as much a heresy as those who equate every crime committed by a Muslim to Islam.

Noble Verse 45:14 "Tell those who believe, to forgive those who do not look forward to the days of Allah: It is for Him to recompense (for good or ill) each people according to what they have earned."

The Torah Bible and Quran have passages which seem to condone violence and/or murder REMEMBER these passages can be found in ALL the books of the Abrahamic faiths and is not isolated to only the Quran. So before I receive posts quoting murder and violence in the Quran remember similar passages can be found in your OWN religious texts! To ignore this fact is to be ignorant to truth and blind to reality. I ask that all your radical thoughts be re-assessed because all this website has proven is that there are Christians and Jews who follow the same hate driven doctrines as the “terrorists” you believe you are fighting!!!!!!!!! Instead of hating Islam and Muslims maybe you should all try to understand the true face of my faith and my people who are no less human than you. We cry like you we feel pain like you we love like you and above all we hate like you when we believe that injustice has been committed against our people!!!!!!!!

"History has proven that Islam can coexist among other faiths in peace and harmony"

Wrong. (The only country that I know of that is fairly liberal is Turkey) And if you check your facts there is the dhimmi. To us this is not peace.

Islam never tried to co-exist at the gates at Vienna, violently trying to force its way in.
Issa, I am not hate driven, but we see many Muslims (not all mind you) speak out against violent Islamist fanatics.

While you claim to be Palestinian, there is really no 'Palestinians'. Just Arab refugees. I read accurate history with many references, so please do not try to claim that there was a country called 'Palestine'. Every night on TV I see the journalists camping with guess who? Yes, it is the 'Palestinians'. And when the kids are throwing rocks there is someone there with an AK47 (read my article on my web site) possibly shooting at Israelis. If Muslim extremists stopped their homicide bombings and killing innocent unarmed Israelis, maybe we would see some peace and quiet. Somehow I don't think the Muslims are going to back off, especially since their children are fed "Mein Kampf" in school. They are taught to hate the Jews.

Your kind always accuses us of 'hate mongering' It is a kind of hate when we see terrorists with machine guns shoot down a family DELIBERATLY.

And what about Lebanon Issa? It was a great nation until Arafat got in there and ruined it. It was so peaceful until then. Now Arafat is on your territory, and as you state you are a Palestinian I don't believe you anyway. There was no such thing as a Palestinian until 1967 when Israel took the West Bank from Jordan. Not Palestine! Palestine was the name of the region, like South East Asia is the name of the Islands of Phillipines, Indonesia, Singapore, Malaysia, Brunei etc.

"I as a Palestinian Muslim represent the majority of Muslims whose opinions and thoughts are censored in western media and whose voice is muted in order to cover up the true nature of Islam"
Why do you think the media 'censors' the 'true nature of Islam'? I am studying history and pretty much it has the true nature of Islam. We in the West know what goes on in the West Bank. In fact there are no Christian homicide bombers or terrorists although one quarter of the Arab population in the 'PA' areas is Christian. Muslim families and Islam in general are totally against anyone converting to Christianity.
Why?
And, if a 'Palestinian' arab refugee converts from Islam to Christianity, why is he or she often 'scared for their lives', knowing someone wants to kill them. What about women 'dishonouring' their families. And then women who kill their babies at birth cause they are girls (female). Why?
WHY is Islam so different to us and so violent, yet we are told it is peaceful!!!!!!????? and it coexists!!!! What a load a rubbish.

that is NOT speak out against violent Islamist fanatics

Hello Issa Zakariya Ismail:

Most muslims are regular people who want peace and harmony for themselves and their neighbors. I don't believe that being born a muslim somehow makes a person bad. We can agree on that.
What we need to look at is the current rise in radical islamic terrorism. Most terrorism in this world is currently parcticed in the name of Islam. Also, Islam sees the world divided into the Dar-al-Islam and the Dar-al-Harb. Islam wants to see a universal islamic caliphate ruling the world. You may not want this personally, but it is a part of your religion that makes trouble. The muslim world today is a failed imperial power, and feels humiliated. But the failure of the islamic world to modernize may well be due to some of the most basic islamic beliefs and dogmas.
I truly believe that most muslims are honorable and decent human beings. I also believe that it is their duty to reform islam. You need to stand up against islamic terrrorism and these crazy ideas of jihad.
The irrational crazy violent followers of Islamic fundamentalism, who speak in the name of Islam to the rest of the world, and who practice terror in the name of Islam, and in the name of the Prophet Muhammad, are destroying your religion. And it is up to you to reclaim Islam for the civilized world. Islam must undergo its own Reformation.
Otherwise, it will be truly terrible.
Best wishes

Mike H

geekpunk:

Your comments are true to your name. Grow up and stop talking trash. If you don't have anything constructive to say then keep your mouth shut. Your comments only inflame, they don't help or add any value.

Mike H

Isn't it funny how Berg's family was all upset saying he was wrongfully incarcerated. Therefore they blame the US Goveernment for his death because he missed his flight home due to being in jail.

Nick had a million chances before being arrested to go home. That is well known now.

Nick's password was found on Zacarias Moussaoui's laptop.
That prompted the investigation. It is not beyond Americans to commit treason. So the FBI in my opinion had the right to request that he remain incarcerated. He was released as soon as the FBI confirmed his innocence. He was NOT released because his family filed a law suit. The suit was filed the day after, so it did not have time to even be served.

Nick's brother is claiming in a 4 page email from his naive brother, that the US authorities were holding Nick. That is false, as MPs did visit Nick Berg to confirm he was being treated humanely. Nick probably mistaken this as being in US custody.

I just wish more of the people on the left will do more research instead of being lazy and fed by their left wing biased primetime media networks.

After just a few days of investigating Islam further, it is easy to see that sick religion for what it is.
Yes Koran has Sura's that are benevelent, and even spoke of Christians and Jews as friends.
Yes there are Muslims that are genuinely good people. However, Islam is a two sided devil. The good was only included to push the agenda of Islam, otherwise it would have gained the wide acceptance it enjoys today. Islam has a dark medieval and brutal side that no Muslim would ever admit.
Ask any Muslim about the Satanic Versus that was written by Muhhamad to appease one of his 12 wives, that allowed her to continue her worship of three gods. This was a direct contradiction of what Muhhamad has been preaching. (The Koran contradicts itself many times.) It is widely known that the Satanic Versus were covered up to maintain the imgae of Islam as a valid religion, and not the mumblings of a Egomaniac.
This brings me to my orginal point. An Indian author Rushdie, wrote a book titled The Satanic Versus. It is a satire story mainly, but one that bore the embarassment of Islam in it's title. Immediately before printing, it was banned from India. Iran put a million dollar "Fatwa" on his head. THIS IS BEFORE THEY EVEN READ THE BOOK.
Islam is a religion of hate, and prejudice, and ancient thinking. Many modern Arab countries still chop off hands for trivial crimes, and stone women for simply showing their faces in public.
WHEN WILL YOU LEFT WING LIBERALIST GET THIS, Islam is the enemy. Instead the left wing try to split the country in two, for their own political power.

Maybe like many muslims do, I should bury my newborn daughter in the sand in shame. Because, we are leaving a failed legacy of dealing with what True Evil is. ISLAM.

Rikki, I think Chaya is as far from a Muslim as one can get and was just being very realistic about where Jews can safely travel in the world. The answer certainly is not everywhere.

I and the public know
What all schoolchildren learn,
Those to whom evil is done
Do Evil in return.

W.H. AUDEN, "September 1, 1939"

"While you claim to be Palestinian, there is really no 'Palestinians'. Just Arab refugees. I read accurate history with many references, so please do not try to claim that there was a country called 'Palestine'"

The above is the biggest Zionist myth used in order to make legitimate the ongoing persecution of my people the PALESTINIANS!!! Palestine became a predominately Arab and Islamic country by the end of the seventh century [while the extended kingdoms of David and Solomon, on which the Zionists base their territorial demands, endured for only about 73 years!!! Also there is more Roman, Christian and Islamic character to ancient Palestine than there are Jewish].

Almost immediately thereafter its boundaries and its characteristics - including its name in Arabic, Filastin - became known to the entire Islamic world, as much for its fertility and beauty as for its religious significance and yet you deny that I exists as a Palestinian? how long are we going to believe this Zionist lie? I agree that Palestine was apart of a greater Arab nation (just as Scotland is part of Great Britain does this make the Scottish any less Scottish?) but the people of Palestine still regarded themselves as being PALESTINIAN! To claim that we were invented in 1967 is a historic fallacy and any self respecting historian will know this to be pure MYTH. And to those people who believe they know what is going on in Palestinian refugee camps I suggest you actually see the reality on the ground before you claim that “terrorism” lies on the side of the Palestinians. Since the creation of the state of “Israel” Palestinian resistance against Israel terrorist state (Israel was founded on Terrorism incitement and LIES) has been branded as terrorism. Justified resistance against Israel’s violence against the Palestinian (as a method of rule) becomes “terrorism”.

"Serfs they (the Jews) were in the lands of the Diaspora, and suddenly they find themselves in freedom [in Palestine]; and this change has awakened in them an inclination to despotism. They treat the Arabs with hostility and cruelty, deprive them of their rights, offend them without cause, and even boast of these deeds; and nobody among us opposes this despicable and dangerous inclination." Zionist writer Ahad Ha'am, quoted in Sami Hadawi, "Bitter Harvest."

P.S. My last comment is by far an in depth history of my country however i will be happy to answer ANY questions you have regarding the History and politics of Palestine via e-mail where i can explain to you our history dating back to the Canaanite civilization....

Issa Ismail:

You forgot to mention the fact that every one of those so-called "Palestinians" is, in fact, a citizen of one of the surrounding Arab states (regardless of the fact that those same Arab states have essentially disowned them).

I guess that fact didn't fit into your little "history."

I pray for this guy's soul. He was a human being and now he is dead. However, to the observer it does look like he was a callous opportunist who, it is said, supported the bombing of Iraq, which was an arrogant, illegal and extremely costly act both in dollar terms and also in terms of blood spilled. He then tried to go to the war-torn country to make a buck: now he is dead. As a Jew he should have known better. Of course, as a Jew he may have been comfortable with living amongst oppressed people whose civil and human rights are routinely violated (hello, the Palestinians)! Live by the sword, die by the sword. May his soul be at rest. And may we all learn from this. We owe that to him also. Noone can be free until EVERYONE is free you fascist right-wing bastards.

Michael Lerner:

"As a Jew he should have known better."

So, as long as the Jihadis confine their murderous behavior to Jews, it's okay?

If anyone's soul needs to be prayed for, I'd say it's yours.

Except for the fact that you've obviously sold yours.

Enough with the war already. The United States had no right going into Iraq. I find it disturbing how so many conservatives will villify the great President Bill Clinton for lying about a sexual encounter, yet praise George Bush-oblivious to the fact that he lied about weapons of mass destruction- for starting a war that was not justifiable. I do not agree with Islam; I think it is a hateful religion. I do, however, think that if a country chooses to have radical Islam within its borders and it does not affect the American way of life, then so be it. This crusade against terror is a convenient way for George W. Bush to enrich companies of friends back home in America. Killing innocent Americans at the cost of over $100 billion to the taxpayer is not only grounds for impeachment, it is grounds for banishment.

Enough with the war already. The United States had no right going into Iraq. I find it disturbing how so many conservatives will villify the great President Bill Clinton for lying about a sexual encounter, yet praise George Bush-oblivious to the fact that he lied about weapons of mass destruction- for starting a war that was not justifiable. I do not agree with Islam; I think it is a hateful religion. I do, however, think that if a country chooses to have radical Islam within its borders and it does not affect the American way of life, then so be it. This crusade against terror is a convenient way for George W. Bush to enrich companies of friends back home in America. Killing innocent Americans at the cost of over $100 billion to the taxpayer is not only grounds for impeachment, it is grounds for banishment.

Oh, PLEASE Tommy/Shirley. Could your trollness be any more obvious? At least put some effort into it.

Okay, Tommy...I'll take your troll-bait.

Just what "companies of friends back home" are being "enriched" as a result of the war?

Before you answer, keep in mind that Halliburton is actually LOSING money as a result of its operations in Iraq and Kuwait, so that would be a fairly stupid name to throw out.

Michael Lerner:
" Noone can be free until EVERYONE is free you fascist right-wing bastards."

Actually I'm an independent voter and so far have never voted Republican.

Have you ever considered that maybe some of your assumptions may be somewhat dated? This is not Vietnam.

What does 'freedom' mean? Could it be that freedom to an islamic fundamentist means something entirely different than what it means to you? Why do you assume that your brand of freedom is the one true version? Why do you assume that you have the moral high ground? What if you are mistaken? In the 1930's many well-meaning Western liberals, disgusted with the economic conditions of the Depression, visited the new 'workers paradise' of the Soviet Union. They received the state-sponsored tour of the new soviet-style Potemkin villages, were duly impressed by their carefully choreographed tour, and either didn't see, or did not want to see any evidence of Stalin's true agenda. My point is that liberals, and so-called progressives always assume that they have the high moral ground, when in reality, they may simply be blinded by their own ideological blinkers. It may feel good to call someone 'fascist', but that just cheapens the word. Same goes for 'racist', 'genocide', 'imperialist', and all the other pc buzz words.

There are several 'right-wing wing-nuts' on this site, and there are many more intelligent, sincere questioning individuals who are having a discussion. Most of us agree that the prime evil in this world at this moment is apocalyptic islamic terrorism. Maybe you disagree with this. If so, state your position and let's ta;l. You'll be a lot more convincing when you quit spewing the same trash talk that offends you.

Mike H

Hi everyone--
I thought I'd jump in and offer my opinion, which carries the same value as all of yours. I have to say that I lean toward agreeing with "Tommy" in that we had no business starting a war with Iraq. I think Bush's decision was based largely on the encouragement of others in his cabinet, such as Rumsfeld and Cheney. Remember, a good portion of those on Bush's cabinet were also on his dad's cabinet, which makes me wonder if part of the reason Saddam was targeted was because of the assassination attempt on the elder Bush. Let's not forget that back in the '80s, our own country helped overthrow the Iraqi gov't and place Saddam as leader. We've done some vile things in the name of power and "morality." Yet, somehow our nation holds the template for what is just. It frightens me that our president refers to the Iraqis as "evil do-ers" and "the Infidel!" Those terms come right out of the Bible and prove to me that Mr. Bush is using his fundamental Christian values as a barometer for measuring what is good and what is so-called 'evil.' Before you think I'm anti-Christian or a bible basher, let me explain that I am a second year seminarian working on my Masters in Divinity, which will make me a clergy person in a mainline Protestant (Christian) denomination. To expect other nations to follow our example in terms of gov't, or to judge their brand of religion as inferior and immoral is assuming that ours is right. It's right for our nation because it is what we know, just as a democratic gov't is what we know. But we have no business imposing it on anyone else. In terms of 9/11, it's a tragedy that we should learn from and make changes within our borders to ensure that nothing of that magnatude happens again. But to say "never forget" is a very big mistake. What that statement is really saying is 'keep grinding the axe.' I've worked with trauma victims for many years and the one thing we in the helping profession try to do is help them with letting go of the rage. Of course they won't forget! But to stay vengeful and full of hate is to stay focused on the trauma. It's not on the same magnitude as 9/11 but the concept is very much the same. My ethics prof. recently said, "You can't fight evil with evil, or hate with hate. No one ever wins." And that is what is happening with this war. There will be no winners, only increasing hate and bloodshed. And for what?

Leslie B.

Leslie:

"To expect other nations to follow our example in terms of gov't, or to judge their brand of religion as inferior and immoral is assuming that ours is right."

If you truly believe that there's nothing wrong with a religion that encourages its followers to slaughter or enslave everyone who chooses to follow a different faith, then you have no business becoming a minister.

Considering your rather faulty grasp of history, you should probably consider a different vocation.

I'd suggest you look into something in the fast-food industry.

intersting, everbody is a quite expert in islam, altough living in a 90% muslim populated Turkey, i see interesting facts here about islam that i have never seen before.

i dont believe in god, religion, a divine "power" or so. however, almost all the people i love are muslim. never seen one trying to bury a girl alive, a thief getting his hand/foot cut off, or a women stoned.

no one is forced to wear headscarf here. in fact, they are not allowed in highschools, in universities, in the parliement etc. wearing it.

in my university, almost half of my instructors are jewish. i havent seen any student trying to decapitate them, but as you said, may be we are waiting for the right time to strike.

nobody i know around here approves the suicide bombings on civilian targets. even we monsters have fathers, mothers, sons, doughters. sorry, no daughters.

American tourists are welcome here, mostly leaving turkey with memories of a good holiday. but wait, midnight express is not about a good holiday right?

and of course, kurdish issue, armenian issue, cyprus issue and so. it is hard to be monster, you have to deal with many issues.

all this stuff i can understand, and since tired of discussing them, i can accept.
but one of them really amazed me here.

vienna siege.

while barbar turks were trying to conquer vienna, were europe working on improving the methods for rising tulips or what. "age of conquest" is the term we use here. age of imperialism is also what we call the period after 300 years of vienna siege, when british, french, anzak and other forign powers laid siege on istanbul, and captured most of anatolia. but yet, we call it age of imperialism. not "unable to cooperate with other religions"

hate promotes hate. if you invade a country, there will be consequences. they should not be decapitating civilians or bombing civil targets or torturing and raping at will. but appereantly, they are. well i will not conclude or offer a solution, since i gave up caring long time ago, and even if i were to, some genius will come and say "aah, forget about it, just smoke'm". you can not force people to see truths if they even refuse to open their eyes.
so just keep them shut.
if you can not, consult your media.
it will help.

Serhat:

Turkey is a secular country, Thank God! You know how different Turkey is from Saudi Arabia. You know how different the practice of islam in Turkey must be from its practice in Iran, Saudi Arabia,
The siege of Constantinople that you refer to is really the Dardanelles Campaign by the Allies in WW1. Turkey was an ally of Germany-Austria-Hungary. Turkey defeated the Allies at Gallipoli. But the Allies won the war , the Ottoman Empire lost, the last Caliph went into exile and Kemal Attturk stepped onto the stage to lead the reform of Turkey by primarily military means.
Turkey is relatively free from islamic fundamentalism beecause Turkey was reformed by Attaturk, and has had a greater interaction with the West. Turkey is the only muslim country that actually has cordial relations with Israel and actually conducts military manoeuvres with Israel! Amazing!
Turkey is one role model for the Arab world as it seeks to modernize itself.
Best wishes,

Mike H

Mr. Berg suffered a horrific end. As an American Jew, his actions were similar to a Black carpetbagger or profiteer wandering freely about an all white southern enclave during its civil war and oppression from the North. To an Arab fighting for his beliefs and country against a vastly superior foreign occupation army, this was adding gross insult to injury. If not a profiteer, I think he was very deluded and enjoyed the thrill of living very dangerously or on the edge. Such adventurers often do meet such ends.

To Arabs, in general, the Jews (American and Israeli) are their greatest and most dangerous enemies. The main source of their discord and trouble with the West. A major cause of their worst humiliations as a people. The reason American Politicians always sides with Israel unconditionally on any issue of note.

We as Americans think that all the world shares our views including what people value. We think of death as the most horrible thing that can happen to a person. Why? Because we are raised to be materialists and hedonists in life (seeking material pleasure, overeating, sex, etc.) Therefore, the end of these pleasures (aka death) is the worst thing that can happen to a body.

This is not so to the muslim fundamentalist (or some Christian fundamentalists.) Death is not horrified or feared to the same extant. This life is meant to be sad ( it is a proving ground ), the after- life (aka heaven) is of far greater importance. To an Arab fundamentalist, the prison news of sodomy, nudity and gross humilation is worst then death.

Too much yankee spankee islam. We need more confidently democratic Americans leading the war against Islamist terrorists not anti-Islamic fanatics. Listen for a minute when Moslem correspondents reach out to touch and share the values of the English-Scotish enlightenment that lies at the heart of the USA and its closest allies. Of course there are different, legitimate ways of reading ancient scriptures ... that's why there are a zillion Christian varieties ... and a dozen or more Jewish (same % but miniscule faith). Of course there is a battle going on within the Islamic community - between various extreme factions and the big, silent majority - for the future of their faith, nations, families and oil and the bomb. Of course there are Moslem ethnics (such as Arabs who live in Israeli-controlled terriories of the former British mandate of Palestine previously controlled by Jordan and Egypt) that will use religion as part of their [right or wrong] battle ... same as the predominantly Irish Catholics continuing IRA urban terrorism (much funded much by USA citizens). I appeal for more focus on dividing the Islamist fanatics from their rapidly reducing "home bases" and leaving ideological debates to the angels.

I recognize that Issa Zakariya Ismail started out trying to present a better face of Islam, and it should be recognized. But I will condone neither the Falastin Arabs' attempt to write the Jews out of the history of the land, nor that of the Gush Emunim types who would write out the Arabic-speaking peoples.

Yet it is also true that there has been an appalling drop in the perecentage of Christian Falastin Arabs over the past several decades, and this is extremely troubling. Also, I would like to know why the Armenian and Catholic monks at the church of the Holy Sepulchre refused to allow the burial of the Muslim fighters killed there after seizing it as a point from which to fight the Israelis? Fear of an important Christian site being "claimed" by Muslims due to the presence of Muslim graves, perhaps?

Also, the name Falastin comes from the Latin "Palestina", not the other way around; and the Greek and Roman name comes from the Aegean Sea Peoples of the Bronze Age whom the Hebrews called Pelshtim (Phillistines in the English Bible)--not Arab migrants. And, if you honor David (Daud), Solomon (Suleiman), Elijah (Ilyas), and Jonah (Yunus) as prophets, you don't want to claim the Phillistines as your heritage. Let the Muslim Arabs stick to claiming Ishamel as their ancestor, and the Arab Christians to claiming Aram as their forefather instead.

Further, rather than claim the ancient Canaanites as ancestors, the Falastin Arabs need to lock up as insane whoever it was that told them to do so--for claiming to be Canaanite will bring down a divine curse even if all Israelis and Americans disappeared overnight.

I have to say, first I am Wiccan, NOT pagan, and believe in GOD as a divine powers. I was married to an american Muslim. His parents converted and raised him and his siblings to be "devout, peaceful" muslims. I never thought twice about his religion when I met him. Then came 9-11. I started to ask questions because I didn't really know too very much about Islam. I only thought it was peaceful. He brushed them off, never giving a direct answer, so I read the Qu'ran myself. It opened my eyes to the violence that they believe. I asked more questions which he could not explain away. I divorced him when he condoned what was going on, claiming America shouldn't have messed where it didn't belong". My God, he was even in our military! I don't understand how they could "be a peaceful" religion and condone violence. I guess as long as THEY can live in peace and harmony with each other its okay for THEM to get rid of all of us. Everyone has a right to their own religion, I know I have been looked down upon for mine, BUT as far as I have ever known, no Christian or Buddhist has ever tried to eradicat another religion..........