It's a start...

I was encouraged with the suggestion I heard this AM on Fox News that we search all American Mosques and some Islamists homes and find out exactly what is going on in them...Like what is stored in the broom closets? I had this thought on September 12, 2001...

If the Mosques are honest and above board they should not resist and if they are not willing to be open and tranparent then they should be suspect...

I think if this were asked of Christian Churches they would not mind at all:) In fact most Pastors would be happy to get new people into the building, if only for an inspection!

Typical NazIslam crap... read these parts again:

"According to court records, Alddin pleaded guilty to battery charges against his wife..."

"In one of the cases, a North County nonprofit organization that helps local Muslims sent a letter to the judge on the defendant's behalf, the court records show."

Yep, that's the religion that promotes the rights of women, alright. They help women, as long as the women are fighting for the right to be MORE oppressed (wear the black tent, wear the veil, live under Sharia, etc.) But when a Muslim woman seeks help from prosecution BY muslims.... you know the rest.

Susan, I think you have an idea there. Ask all the churches, no matter the denomination, to support the effort by openly inviting inspection.

The leaders of the mosques would either have to say 'come on in' or would drop into the usual cries of racism, hostility, whatever. Or try to make it conditional.

In any case just the task of reaching and convincing our own churches would be huge- and I for one don't expect the mosques to comply. But we can try!

Wake up people. They need to be gone, all of them. They are not here to work and have a better life. They are here to destroy from within. This sick muslim thing should not happen in our country. They are the only people to do the things they do. They have ruined every country they have been allowed to get a foothold.American women why do you marry these vile creatures ?

Yeah, Cindy! Tell it like it is, no beating around the bush. Clean these despicable 'citizens' out of here, I'm tired of supporting them with my tax dollars.

The US Constition protects churches from undue interference by the state. A mosque is NOT a church.

If Christian churches have to avoid mixing politics with religion in order to keep their tax exampt status, maybe mosques should be held to the same standard.

But, let's not hold our breath waiting..........

Sorry, Peggy. You are DEAD wrong. A mosque is a church of the Islamic faith.

Whle I agree that something needs to be done about terrorists in our midst, I'll be damned if I'll gut my Constitution to do so.

I agree Mr. Owens, but I also agree to some extent with Peggy. We cannot permit Sharia law to trump our consitutional law, as appears to be happening in Canada.

sorry bob owens. a mosque is not a church. a mosque is a building where world terrorists gain footing with the hope of world domination. are you that dim witted?

Megan,

Sweetheart, if you want to start comparing brainpans, you better bone-up first.

Regardless of your own bigoted personal beliefs, the federal government, all state governments, and all local governments, recognize mosques as houses of worship under or laws. The last time I checked, we are not beholden to the laws of the United States of Megan. I suggest you read some constitutional law before you ignorantly opine again.

Opviews,

Sharia law will not be allowed to trump US constitutional provisions, any more than the laws of the other religions practiced in this country are allowed to exist autonomously.

In fact, with Islam under such public and governmental scrutiny in the United States right now, it is probably the last religion capable of covertly forcing its views upon the populace.

Bob Owens:

I appreciate your position but am not quite so sanguine. We have laws against discrimination based on race, sex, religion, etc. and yet discrimination is OFFICIAL US governmental policy for certain government contracts and the explicit or implicit and a policy tacitly approved (Michigan Law School case) by the Supreme Court for admission to our colleges and universities.

You One Ugly Mother F@&*r!!

Bob,
I have one quick question and not enought time to look it up, wouldn't a mosque loose it's protection status if it is used for political purposes, more so than religious?
Seems like I read something along those lines, but to be honest, I can't remember where and in relation to what.
I know you'll have the answer.
Thanks

Is that the best you can do, Mullah Mo? *laughs* Muslims had to turn to the sword to conquer, because apparently they didn't have the mental faculties to conquer otherwise!

Technically yes, Susan. It's some addendum to the IRS tax code I believe, passed in the 1960's. However, it's rarely enforced.

Thanks,nomorejihad

I knew there was something, but just couldn't remember. I will look that up later today.

Well Well Well, a mosque got raided in the USA, Yippy, I would hope every single mosque in the US is being watched day in and day out. everyone who goes in and out needs to be photographed and entered into a data base. Its sad that in a country that has freedom of religon it has come to this. I hope all you muslim americans out there are happy at what your muslim brothers and sisters are doing to your so called holy places and your own FREEDOM. Look at Iraq, A muslim kills a christian or a jew and its justice for what we have done to them, if a christian or jew kills a muslim regardless if they are extreme or not all the muslim world crys out that its wrong. Hell muslims kill muslims everyday, Why, because thats just what they do. The time is here all you true Americans, If you are going to die in a terror attack would you like to die as a patriot or just another american who didnt stand up for his or her country because they were afraid. dont fear death, they dont. Bring death to your enemies and show them why we are what we are, AMERICANS

Opposite of the dogged Islamic determination of Reza and Mahmoud, we have another sort of “true believer,” in this case modeled by DeathToTheJihad.

These folks are more than willing to toss the Constitution and the Bill of Rights into the ashbin of history to allay their fears.

Freedom of Religion?
Sure, if we approve of the religion.

Due Process? Probable Cause?
It just gets in the way of putting the bad people in jail.

Repeal of Prohibition?
Actually, we kind of like that one…

America was founded on the idea of certain unalienable rights. Sometimes we seem to forget what that word means.

These comfortable cowards are willing to scrap the rights of others by stalking them and having them tracked, imprisoned without cause, and held without merit. Isn’t that hypocritical in the Land of the Free and Home of the Brave? You show no bravery saying such things, just the kind of ignorance and fear that spawned those we are fighting.

You don’t believe in the ideas this country is founded on if you can parrot such rot. You don’t understand it, or you do not have convictions. Anyone who would torch the Constitution is a moral coward, and no less worthy of condemnation than those you decree as evil.

You may be what you are. But you, and others like you, are certainly not my idea of Americans.

BOB,
no one said anything about stalking anyone, now what i said was i think all MOSQUES should be watched in this country. Now i also said i think everyone going in and out of those mosques should be photographed and documented. The same way there are now cameras on some streets in the US watching for crimes taking place. I surly didnt say anything about imprisionment, that whould just be wrong. God willing one of these bastards will be seen going into one of these "holy places" jerehiah 20:12

We (the USA) need a World War 2 mindset. What ever it takes to gain peace and security. Let's get the job done. No more "911" with God's help and a strong President. God Help Us All!

thank you Don, some people like bob just dont understand that its time to get the job done and save this country for all its worth, even if it includes doing things that have never been done before to protect it. Im willing to die for this country and I hope all you other true Americans are.
Jeremiah 20:12

We need to close the borders, and keep these kinds of people out.

Right on, Don.

Notwithstanding the ongoing combat in Iraq, Afghanistan and elsewhere, this is merely the Sitzkrieg in the “War on Terror”. In the bitter struggle to counter Islamo-fascism, the major havoc hasn’t even kicked off to date. Whether people want to admit it or not, the West, its Allies and associates are in a state of WAR - formally undeclared, but on the heels of serial, dastardly sneak-attacks by a lying and fanatical antagonist (like Imperial Japan’s in 1941).

Sure, it’s a truism, but whoever prevails in the contemporary fighting in Iraq will dominate the region for decades. If Islamo-fascism’s not broken in Iraq, it’s a lot more - not less - likely that, down the line, nukes will be required, as the battle expands and escalates, to gain the essential, Western victory in the “War on Terror” - or else, eventually, they WILL be used by the enemy.

Initially, they may be dropped by the US to serve as an EXAMPLE, someplace apt - while time remains to apply such a measure. But after that alternative lapses (once the dar el-Islam, beyond Pakistan, procures them), nuclear weapons could casually become used as a sledge-hammer.

Or, with luck, they might be harnessed as a deterrent - provided that the Islamo-fascists CAN be deterred. This is far from a certainty: they don’t necessarily view “Mutual Assured Destruction” in the way that the Soviets and the Americans did during the Cold War. Hopefully, one dose of “aversion therapy” should straighten them out, but if more are needed, they ought to be available.

The optimum, single target-set - and the strategic priority - for setting an Example (as above) ought to be the Iranian nuclear-armaments plants; the schedule for blasting them should be for TONIGHT. If this stratagem functions as projected, then no more nukes should be necessary.

(Two A-Bombs were called for in Japan in 1945: four stood ready, with at least a further half-dozen being rapidly assembled. Washington didn’t know how many it could take for Japan to surrender and was morally prepared to let off these ten - and more - in order to defeat it.)

The message’ll be conveyed that resistance is futile. It would demonstrate that, at length, the US now concretely acknowledges that it’s been thrust into an Existential conflict, war to the death, like WWII. Alas, it’s kill or be killed; the Islamo-fascists - who, don’t forget, spawned this clash - are the ones promising a war of “conversion or annihilation” (hardly their first), not the West.

The earlier the rabid Arabs’ and Moslems’ megacidal plots are neutralized, then the lower this confrontation’s final death-toll will amount to. It’d be absurd to rob the Coalition of munitions which probably could - if used opportunely, and in time - stop, cold, this mortal adversary from acquiring atomic devices of its own. - Because once it’s got them, all bets will be off.

The alternative to the West winning - decisively - in these imminent hostilities is too horrible to dwell on. It’s cardinal duty is to defend itself from visceral enemies who are pledged to its total and perpetual eradication, who won’t halt their crazed onslaughts till they’ve vanquished the West, or their mentality’s changed round 180 degrees, or they’re dead.

To Bob why is it a must that the mosques of Muslim be watched all the time. how can you be so sure that only Muslims are terrorists? how do you even know 100% that Muslims are the ones that are commiting horrible acts like 9-11? maybe its just an act by the governemt in order to make it look like Muslims did it and then bring them down in society. if the mosques are going to be watched and everyone going in and out of them being photographed and documented then I say if you think you are an American than you are wrong. America stands for human rights and freedom, not to be watched everyday because the media says that Muslims are bad when you the listener isnt even sure that all you hear is true u just abosorb it like a mindless spong. if Mosques are going to be moitered then churches and synagogues and all other places of worship should be monitered as well.

Sorry my comment was to DEATHTOJIHAD

I am agreeing with Emily 100%. How can you be so sure that Muslims are the only ones that are commiting these horrible acts. You people are so biased, me as a Christian American do not beleive that the Muslims are terrorists because that is the TRUTH. All of you are believing is what the media is showing, you dont see what is happening in the real world. How are you so sure that the media is 100% true? It is not!Hundereds and hundered of innocent people are being killed in Palestine day after day. The Americans are killing them with their weapons and all the Palestinians have are rocks to defend themselves with. And you still think that the Muslims are the terrorists! Today me myself witnessed a man cursing at innocent Muslim girls during school time while they were having lunch. The man was passing by in his car and he tells them: "You mother fu*kin terrorists! You bit**es." What did these girls do to him? Can you still tell me that the MUSLIMS are the terrorists? Yes I am an American and I love my country very much, but that doesnt mean that I cant see the truth.

Cindy,
Do u read peoples minds??? You said "They are here to destroy from within" You are one numskulled person. Jews and Americans killed thousands and thousands of Muslims in their countries and you're saying that the Muslims started? How would the Muslims have started if they have no weapons?? The Americans are the ones who went in Iraq and started a war because they wanted their "oil".Could you tell me one country the Muslims ruined? And do not say America because America is ruining itself.

You have been an innocent man all your life and have always been on the right side of the law. One day, a police officer walks up to your house while you are watching a movie with your kids and demands that your house be searched...
Thats exactly what you are suggesting; you want the innocent Muslims to be searched. You stated that the Muslims don't want their mosques searched? Obviously, the innocent man, knowing that he has done nothing wrong, would not want a bunch of men marching into his house and searching through his private belongings. Open your eyes, the Muslims are being tortured everyday, they are cursed at, their rights are being taken away (as you may know the scarf is banned in France). After all this, how can you still say the Muslims are the terorist? Innocent until proven guilty!

I agree with you Jessica. cindy maybe these American women marry these "vile creatures" because they see the good in them, just because they are Muslims or arabs does not mean they are bad. you are just ignorant, would you like it if some discriminated your whole race or religion based on one thing that is most likely NOT true...i dont think so. So i suggest before you say anything retarted that you think about it and then decide whether its right or wrong based in any moral or ethical code. you are wrong they did not ruin any country they set foot in. take spain for example.... Spain reached its golden age under Muslim rule for hundreds of years before you judge anything get your history and facts straight.

Would anyone like to respond or are you afraid to admit we are right?