Of course any time wanted posters come out, there are literally dozens if not hundreds of sightings. Some facial types just happen to occur more than others, some don't. (I've been told I look like Steven King.)

I wouldn't be surprised if this is Not the only occurence the FBI has gotten since the pictures came out. But 5 hours for a response? Some states' security peoples are very busy due to Election-year events but I hardly think Colorado is one of them.

Keithjoy! Welcome back. Was wondering where you got to.

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"...the FBI has no reason to believe any of the seven are in Colorado..."
Of COURSE the have reason to believe it - Samuel Mac called and told them he SAW two of them, or two guys who looked like two of them.
If I had any confidence in the FBI these days I might conclude that what they were implying is that they DO have reason to believe the seven are someplace else instead, but even if they do, I doubt that is the reason for the poor response from the Denver office. Probably the office really was very busy - maybe taking lots of calls from people reporting seeing guys that looked like those terrorists.

Ok, you guys might all think I'm nuts, but here goes ...

I saw El Shukri Jumah two years ago on a flight. He was acting extremely oddly in the gate area and, as luck would have it, he turned up seated next to my family! I reported him to the flight crew and they kept an eye on him during the flight. I called the local FBI office the next day but since this was before the Patriot Act was passed the agent I spoke with, although interested, said that unless I had actually SEEN the guy do something illegal (like light his shoe, I suppose) the FBI couldn't do anything. I've noticed the guy's picture on the news since then but when the Justice Department publicized the most recent photos they included several additional shots that made me sure. When I contacted the local FBI office two days ago (thinking that the guy had probably used an alias to travel and that they could at least track other travel in the subsequent two-year period using that same alias) the person I spoke with - I can't believe she was an agent, she was so incompetent - didn't know which "most wanted " list I was talking about (I had to tell her to look it up on fbi.gov.), could NOT take the correct spelling of the guys name (I had to go over it about twelve times) and was totally dismissive of my story.

Does anyone there at the agency remember the varied intel foulups that let Atta and others ultimately carry out 9-11?
I'm sure the agency was getting lots of calls about these guys, if they looked like the two that are wanted! It's a shame the manager couldn't call the state troopers on those suspects...just imagine the agency response if some "local yokel" troopers catch two of them, they are in fact those wanted persons, and then it comes out that the agency wasn't interested, and hadn't even called back yet.
("Sorry special agent mookie, them state boyz jus' took 'em to the lockup 4 hours ago. You wanna got talk to 'em now?")

AND WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BELIEVE THAT OUR GOVERNMENT IS SERIOUS ABOUT THE 'WAR ON TERROR'!!??

GIVE ME A BREAK!

Some of this sounds a bit like the NIH (Not Invented Here) syndrome - "If WE didn't come up with the leads, it's probably not important."

jay

How can we see on the evening news in any city any town a girl get kidnapped behind a car wash,a young woman who was abducted at a mall,and we get red light tickets in the mail because we were caught on camera. Do you think Denny's would have a surveilance camera trained on the register at all times?The surrounding ten blocks probably have camera's pointing at various angles.Hmmmm it should not take a rocket scientist to put this to rest quickly.

Have you all ever taken a good look at the pictures of these guys and noticed how DEAD most of their eyes look? They're like a bunch of zombie "Undead."

Given their philosophy, they are all "Dead Men Walking" anyway.

A return to some Old West standbys are required at this time:

1. Placement of Wanted Posters in all publicly accessible buildings. Very easy to accomplish since most printers now are color inkjets or better. A simple request from the FBI for businesses to cooperate with such a policy would be very effective.

2. Encourage average citizens to arm themselves. 37 states have implemented concealed carry laws without adverse effects. Time now for the remaining states to step into the present. When the stakes are high--a single successful terror attack could kill thousands--the response must be proportionally aggressive.

If this Denny's manager had a gun in his office and had made a citizen's arrest, we would be interrogating these people now. We are long overdue for a return of arming citizens to form the militia. The founding fathers were not idiots. This is the easy way to multiply the effectiveness of our police and military in this age of sleeper cells and national manhunts.

I HAD A VERY SIMILAR EXPERIENCE CALLING THE FBI. WHEN I SAID THE NAME OF THE WANTED TERRORIST, THE AGENT SAID SHE DIDN'T KNOW THAT NAME, I TOLD HER IT IS ONE OF THE 7 IN THE POSTER. AH!

Sounds like, don't call us we'll call you from the FBI.
Like they did when offered Osama on a plate by the Sudan government.
But they'll have to do something one daY to keep their phoney-baloney jobs.

"Have you all ever taken a good look at the pictures of these guys and noticed how DEAD most of their eyes look? They're like a bunch of zombie "Undead.""

Yep, that's how brainwashed people look like alright.

Yes, it is frustrating. But think about it: after such an alert, there would undoubtedly be thousands of calls to the FBI with a limited number of agents to follow up on them. It is understandable that an agent can't call back immediately.

In WWII, the domestic front's most basic line of defense was the Civil Defense warden. It is clear to me that we need some similar defense posture at home now, if not with a formal structure, at least with an acknowledgement by Washington and local officials of what can be done, including appropriate citizen's arrests in cases like this.

Hey guys, I hate to break it to you, but the initials F.B.I. stand for something more true than the Federal Bureau of Investigation. The truth is the initials really should read: Famous But Incompetent.

It doesn't surprise me at all that this guy couldn't raise any interest in the Denver office. It just goes without saying.

I hope that someone forwards this story to that Famous But Incompentent agency. This is very disturbing.

However, one more point. The waitress pointed out that the "customers" were "demanding, rude, and obnoxious." Guess what, that's the kind of treatment that we will expect for ourselves "if they get in" here. Let's make sure that they don't.

There is such a thing as Citizens Arrest. Buying a pair of handcuffs would help in carrying out such an arrest.

Just slap the cuffs on and say " You are under citizens arrest for terrorist activities, you have the right to remain silent, anything you say can and will be held against you in a court of law, you have the right to an attorney, if you cannot afford one the state will appoint one for you. "

Then hold them until the cops gets there. You could save thousands of lives.

Wesley

Stop calling the FBI. Instead call your local law enforcement agency. They will send officers out, try to identify the subjects and if it looks like they are who you think they are, then the FBI will get off there butts. Seriously do call your local police because they have the manpower to respond more rapidly then the bureau.

Wesley:

There is such a thing as Citizens Arrest.

Only if the "citizen" making the arrest actually WITNESSES the person being arrested in the commission of a crime.

Being rude at Denny's isn't a crime. Neither is looking like someone whose picture was posted on a website.

Buying a pair of handcuffs would help in carrying out such an arrest.

And if you're wrong about the person's identity, they'll help make sure that YOU land in jail, instead.

Just slap the cuffs on and say " You are under citizens arrest for terrorist activities, you have the right to remain silent, anything you say can and will be held against you in a court of law, you have the right to an attorney, if you cannot afford one the state will appoint one for you. "

There is no need for someone making a citizen's arrest to advise the subject of his rights. The police will do that when they relieve you of his custody.

Don't get me wrong here. I'm all for people paying attention to their surroundings, and reporting questionable people or activities to the authorities, but I really hope nobody reading this thread follows your advice.

Before you folks go assembling a posse, I'd really suggest that you do a little research into the applicable laws. It could save you a whole lot of legal trouble.

"Two wanted Al-Qaeda men eating at Denny's? Naaah..." are Arab not Iranian. We, Iranians, love democracy, progress, equality and separation of governmet and religion. A renaissance is going on in Iran, namly many Iranians leaving Islam that has caused us misery, human lives and destruction of our culture, identity and country. We have nothing in common with Arabs but many things with the civilized world.

Hmmm. I used to work at a background profiling company for employees. There were several ex-FBI guys there. All clones - they even looked like each other - and the most unimaginative, by-the-book people I have ever met. And boring. What does this mean? We have uncreative martinets looking for terrorists. They don't collect information that doesn't fit in to their hypothesis.

Remember the rapist that was captured by the bounty-hunter in Mexico? The FBI ignored reports placing him there, they thought he was in Fuji or Tahiti. Got lots of leads, but didn't "Fit" their idea. Sure enough, a lone bounty hunter grabs him.

My friend's Uncle used to work as a NYPD detective. You know how the FBI "Catches" all these famous crooks? They let the PD accumulate lots of evidence, and just when they're ready to arrest, the Feds come in and take over. They sometimes give an honorable mention to the police that did 99% of the work, while the agents who did nothing get all the credit.

Van,

You hit the nail on the head. Most people don't know that about the omi-prescent FBI. LOL