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June 16, 2004

Suspected terrorist in FBI custody

"The real thing — a dangerous terrorist." Or another bungled arrest? Babar may have been trying to raise money for Al-Muhajiroun. From CNN, with thanks to Jeffrey Imm:

(CNN) -- The FBI has had in custody since April a Pakistani-American who is believed linked to al Qaeda and who allegedly participated in plots to attack Americans overseas, law enforcement sources said.

Mohammed Junaid Babar is cooperating with authorities, the sources said. He is being held as a material witness as part of an ongoing investigation, which means details of his case are under seal. ...

Babar, a naturalized American citizen, was arrested in Queens. The sources said he is believed to have been involved in a financing operation in the United States to send money to a group in London known to law enforcement as "al Muhajiroun," which includes Pakistani terrorists.

That group allegedly was plotting bombings and assassinations overseas. ...

Law enforcement sources said Babar "is the real thing -- a dangerous terrorist."

Posted by Robert at June 16, 2004 7:30 PM
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With all do respect to Jeffrey Imm;

The notion that our law enforcement is making bungled arrests simply does not hold water.

As I have stated before, the stakes are simply to high to ignore the slightest traces of evidence when it comes to the possible threats of terrorism against this country (USA). To do so would be highly irresponsible on the part of the investigators.

I would rather see these suspects at the least detained for further investigation whether there is sufficient evidence to litigate the case for prosecution or not.

Our law enforcment is keenly aware that not all detainees are going to be able to be prosecuted at all times given the high standards imposed by our legal system.

Posted by: Mackie at June 16, 2004 7:52 PM

Good Job
To the FBI
I mean how hard is it to find a needle in a haystak!!!


Now take him to a court that understands the law and will keep him or hope that he has an accident in Jail???


Part of the American Tribe
God Bless the USA and her Fighting Forces and All who fight with her give them Strength and courage to stay the course to Victory Amen

Posted by: Catherine at June 16, 2004 8:10 PM

Turned in by Celeste?

Posted by: Hugh at June 16, 2004 8:48 PM

My dear Mackie,

Jeffrey Imm had nothing to do with my remarks about bungled arrests. He just sent me the link. I take full responsibility for all remarks made in posts at this site -- obviously, that doesn't apply to reader comments.

Anyway, I agree with you that the stakes are too high to decline to follow any lead. They are also too high for the number of mistakes that are being made. See my December article "Witless for the Prosecution," linked above, for some examples.

Cordially
Robert Spencer

Posted by: Robert Spencer at June 16, 2004 9:10 PM

Dear Mr. Spencer:

I did read your article entitled "witless for the prosecution" The warrants in question came long before 9-11 in regards to Sami Al-Arian (1995). There may have possibly been a discard or termination date in effect in those days for the above said materials and warrants. Even though the clerk claims it was an accident or maybe not ?

I would like to believe that the kind of bungling you make reference to has been shored up.

In regards to the Yee case, this is one of those examples of where it is better to detain Captain Yee when there appears some evidence of indiscretions or improprieties on his part whether there is enough evidence to prosecute or not. It least he is on notice.

There is always the possibility that law enforcement may not prevail in these cases but better safe than sorry.

Posted by: Mackie at June 16, 2004 10:47 PM

Would this be further evidence that Pakistan can not and should not be trusted as friendly to the USA & the free world?

Posted by: onesandzeroes at June 17, 2004 2:31 PM

Gentlemen,
I still say,like a broken record, it's corruption, not the legal system..."the stakes are too high" for the former head of the FAA office in Boston("reassigned" quietly on 09/12)and the CEO of American Airlines (retired quietly, 09/12)to walk away from this unscathed, considering their alleged relationship and the pile of citations and security breaches that had grown on her desk that even her staff were going over her head to the National Headquarters to "narc" on her.The American people deserved to see and hear them before the 09/11 Commission more than Bush and Cheney, who, in my opinion, were bit players by comparison.

I haven't brushed up (recently) on the legal details of sedition, treason, and other laws dealing with these situations, and would appreciate any links.
In the meantime, let's remember that,"It's enemies, foreign and domestic, stupid" needs to be this year's campaign slogan - and if we have the death penalty, start using it.

Posted by: Phil at June 18, 2004 1:21 AM

"It's enemies, foreign and domestic, stupid"

I'd like that on a bumper sticker. Excellent point

Posted by: Bob Owens at June 18, 2004 10:43 AM

I'd like that on a bumper sticker. Excellent point

There you are, Mr. Spencer, another vote for an online gift shop!

Posted by: Phil at June 18, 2004 12:32 PM

Very good coverage of everything relating to Islamic beliefs and terrorists in particular. I, too am perturbed about the 'holy Qur'an' and murderous Mohammad.Out of all world religions, this one actually urges people to kill non-believers! History aside,countries like Iran forcibly converted to Islam, Eygpt etc list goes on and on...there is one fact linking 56 Muslim countries with violence and poverty even though many of them possess rich resources...and that same factor is their religion.Not only requiring
'the faithful' bums up five times a day[a posture one might have thought offensive to Allah] but even to the hand wiping the bottom after natural functions. The kids are brainwashed from day one and all of us know the position of women in this'gentle, tolerant, religion. Apart from their pernicious and often fanatical beliefs they are people just like we are.I propose a more positive
solution, they must be de-Islamised. Agree all terrorists must be stopped. At the same time, we should reason, argue, debate with moderate Muslims.After all, the threat of being killed if one leaves Islam must be terrifying to most as they have witnessed beheadings, amputations etc.
Also shows how insecure the Mercedes Benz Mullahs are.
Greetings from Down Under
Cassandra

Posted by: Cassandra at June 19, 2004 10:01 AM

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