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July 11, 2004

Saudis Facing Return of Radicals

The chickens are coming home to roost. From the Washington Post, with thanks to Jeffrey Imm:

RIYADH, Saudi Arabia -- An increasing number of Saudis who crossed the border into Iraq to fight the U.S.-led military occupation are returning home to plot attacks against the Saudi government and Western targets in the desert kingdom, according to Western counterterrorism officials and Saudis with ties to militant groups. The Iraq veterans are serving as fresh recruits for an underground network in Saudi Arabia that, until recently, was led by an older generation of fighters that had trained in Afghanistan and was closely connected to al Qaeda and its founder, Saudi native Osama bin Laden. Many of those leaders have been killed or captured in recent months by Saudi security forces.

Today, the proclaimed new chief of the primary militant group in the kingdom is Saleh Awfi, 33, a Saudi who journeyed north last year to join Ansar al-Islam, an Islamic radical group in Iraq that the U.S. government has branded as a terrorist organization. Awfi stayed for a few months, barely surviving U.S. aerial bombardment, before deciding to return and take up arms in his home country, according to a former Saudi radical who met with Awfi last year.

Other Saudis are returning after spending time in newly established training camps across the Red Sea in remote parts of Sudan where central government influence is weak, said a European intelligence official whose government is advising Saudi officials on their domestic terrorist threat.

For years, the religiously conservative Saudi royal family considered itself immune to attacks from Islamic extremists, but since May 2003, armed insurgents have shaken the government with a series of bombings and shootings resulting in more than 80 deaths.

Posted by Robert at July 11, 2004 7:09 AM
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Can't say I'm sorry to hear this. The whole rotten
house of Saud and corrupt regime needs to brought down,damn the oil. Also keeps the mujahideen busy so Iraq and Afghanistan get a chance of being democracies and less of our soldiers getting killed.

Posted by: Morgane [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 11, 2004 8:45 AM

The fox is returning to the henhouse.....

Posted by: DCWatson [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 11, 2004 1:27 PM

Strangely though, despite the fact that we are constantly told that the terrorists want to attack the Saudi royal family, this hasn't happened. There are thousands of members of the Saudi Royal family - not a single one of them or any of their business concerns have been attacked. If the extremists wanted to kill Saudi royals it wouldn't be difficult. It's only "infidel" foreigners and the odd saudi policeman who have been murdered. Something tells me the House Of Saud are being left alone because they're still financing the Islamofascists.

Posted by: Son Of Albion [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 11, 2004 1:36 PM

Well, we see, I won´t cry for the fall of the Saud family, they´re rubbish, and the problem of petroleum, isn´t important because there are other places. Greetings

Posted by: Franze [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 11, 2004 3:12 PM

I pray that all the saudis royals and other islamic powers should crack, crumble and fall! in Jesus name (amen).
JESUS IS LORD, NO CONTROVERSY!

Posted by: Dase [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 11, 2004 5:53 PM

The Rashidi tribe has been waiting for nearly 80 years to have their revenge on the Bani Sa'ud. The ultimate jihadie honeypot would be a conflict over who will control the two holy cities of Mecca and Yathrib (Medina). If it breaks out, the United States just by coincidence happens to have all the military power necessary and prepositioned in the theatre to secure the oil production in the northeast corner of the kingdom. So the jihadies can suicide bomb themselves to oblivion in the Hejaz while the United States puts up a fence around the oil fields to hold in "trust" for the Saudi/Rashidi Arabian people until they sort out their tribal thing.

Like it or not, left wing or right wing, maintaining stability of the world's energy supplies is a global imperative. Upon this stability depends the success of the market reforms of the former Soviet states and the epic market economy experiment in China. The ex-Soviet bloc reforms depend on Middle Eastern oil because the economies that are providing the foreign direct investment (FDI) to the former Soviet bloc depend on it. If they go down, so does the FDI and then the market reforms in the former Soviet bloc will fail. The Chinese depend on it because of their massive energy imports.

If either of these falters, civil war could break out in regions of the world where both sides of the conflict would possess nuclear and biological weapons. In addition to concern for the use of those weapons by the belligerents themselves, control and accountability of the weapons would be completely lost and the prospect of some of those weapons ending up in the hands of jihadists for use against the non-muslim world is a near certainty.

Posted by: Hulegu Khan [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 11, 2004 8:17 PM

Does anyone have info on what percentage of US and euro oil supplies are actually saudi originated ?
in other words is it such a big deal?

Posted by: chevalier de st george [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 11, 2004 8:39 PM

Think of the world's oil supply as being a large swimming pool. Pipelines from all of the world's producing nations run into this pool. Assuming demand remains constant, the world price of oil is determined by the amount of oil in the pool so it doesn't matter which pipelines are filling it up.

The technical term for such a commodity is that it is "fungible". Another fungible commodity that is familiar to most people is gold. If you have any gold jewelry look at it closely. Is it from South Africa? Colorado? Papua New Guinea? What would happen to the global gold price if South African production was suddenly halted?

So if any production is taken offline, anywhere on the planet, the level of the pool, and therefore the global price, is affected. Saudi Arabia produces about 12% of the world's total. The Gulf nations together produce about 27% of the world's supply.

So yes, any instability in the Saudi oil supplies is a big deal, a very big deal indeed.

Posted by: Hulegu Khan [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 11, 2004 9:34 PM

As new energy technologies become closer to reality, the " oil weapon window of opportunity " is closing for the Muslim fanatics. I think that in part is fueling the desperation and hence present world jihad as well.

The funny think about the Suadi government is that they have steadfast denied that any militants were crossing into Iraq. The lying Islamic conspirators are apparently going down in the quick sand of their own lies.

To hell with them all. Let them kill each other off.

Nostrodamus

Posted by: Nostrodamus [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 11, 2004 11:33 PM

st. george,

10% of US oil supplies, and 22% of euro oil comes from Saudi. The remainder is sold to China, Japan, Korea, and yes Israel.

Posted by: oikonomakis [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 11, 2004 11:49 PM

Hulequ Khan,
you are so right.
And oil is not going to be replaced anytime soon, despite our best efforts.
Saudi oil is critical to the world into the indefinite future.
Rashidi fighting Bani Sa'ud is ok, providing the U.S. + allies secure Saudi oil.
And i think the U.S. is prepared for exactly that possibility, a major, unspoken, reason for the iraq expedition, which gives U.S. lots of firepower close to Saudi.
If Bush could tell the americans the full list of reasons for going into iraq, he'd be reelected in a second.

Posted by: dby [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 12, 2004 1:16 AM

Yes, if you sow the wind, you will reap the whirlwind. This seems to be what is happening to the house of Saud. The Saudi terrorists must be smelling blood in the water, like all sharks do, and are heading home for the feast. (sad, really...) However, we should not be surprised to see in the next few years that a civil war breaks out in Saudi Arabia.

Should that occur, will the area then become Rashidi Arabia?? Hmmm

Posted by: paula [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 12, 2004 6:59 AM


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