Is the following true of islam?
· The Fascist ideology in mohammed’s teachings. The fundamentalism.
· The Intolerance towards other religions.
· The dishonesty.
· The danger inherent in the undemocratic structure of blindly following orders.
· The danger inherent in the psychological control they have of their members due to the to tell the innermost details of their souls to their spiritual leaders.
· The aggressive and manipulative way in which they try to catch new members.
· The evil character of the founder.
· The fact that they do not reveal their true goals and keep a lot of material secret from the public.
· The smug thinking of belonging to an elite.
· Nationalism and super-patriotism with a sense of historic mission;
· Aggressive militarism even to the extent of glorifying war as good for the national or individual spirit;
· Authoritarian reliance on a leader or elite not constitutionally responsible to an electorate;
· Cult of personality around a charismatic leader;
· Reaction against the values of Modernism, usually with emotional attacks against both liberalism and communism;
· Exhortations for the homogeneous masses of common folk to join voluntarily in a heroic mission - often metaphysical and romanticized in character;
· Dehumanization and scapegoating of the enemy - seeing the enemy as an inferior or subhuman force, perhaps involved in a conspiracy that justifies eradicating them;
· The self image of belonging to a superior form of social organisation beyond socialism, capitalism and democracy;
· Elements of national socialist ideological roots, for example, ostensible support for the industrial working class or farmers; but ultimately, the forging of an alliance with an elite sector of society.
· Abandonment of any consistent ideology in a drive for state power.

Every single word is true, BUT substitute Escriva for mohammed in the first sentence and you have the most fundamental and prevalent conviction about Opus Dei. But I have never heard any comments from Opus Dei advocating the murder and annihilation of contradicting cultures and religions, only islam has come forth with genocidal tendencies. So, my question is WHY?

Posted by: oikonomakis at July 11, 2004 7:40 PM

I saw a report on the Fox news ticker about this.This is an act of such barbarism it's hard to imagine anyone could be so cruel to a young girl.Yet this type of mutilation is acceptable in the name of Islam.

Posted by: Roxane at July 11, 2004 7:58 PM

There are many things that baffle me about these demonic jihadists. One is that they seem to have no idea of honor or courage in their exercise of combat against weaker or helpless individuals. Was there ever, in the distant past, any nobility in their notion of war?

What they did to this little girl seems typical, not the contrary.

Posted by: Will at July 11, 2004 8:02 PM

Alarming the lack of news coverage on outrages by jihadists in the indian subcontinent.
Even the Indian media seem guilty of BBC subterfuges on these matters.
Anyone know why?

Posted by: chevalier de st george at July 11, 2004 8:33 PM

This is happening all the time in Kashmir and Indonesia. Word Jihadist equates with savage thug
devoid of any moral principles who deserves to be
exterminated by whatever means necessary. And how brave is your Muslim warrior! Too cowardly to fight against armed soldiers, he seeks out little children, women and unarmed peaceful men to mutilate and kill. As for this young girl, what of her future? Can you imagine the excruciating agony of her severed young flesh, terror of her screams, a hellish nightmare that will haunt her traumatised mind forever? Yesterday she was
happy, with a young girl's bright dreams, now she has been left with nothing.The bastards! May they be killed themselves but slowly...a quick death is too good for them.

Posted by: Morgane at July 11, 2004 9:25 PM

The cutting off of tongues, fingers, feet, and so on was a specialty of the Taliban as well. It would sometimes kidnap small children, hold them for ransom, then if the parents could not raise the money, mail a toe, or a finger, and threatening to mail back the head -- in one case, the kidnap victim was 3 years old -- unless the parents, often not very well-off themselves -- came up with what, for them, would be huge sums.

Surely we are entitled to judge a civilisation, or a belief-system, by the behavior of those who claim to represent its ideal system, reduced to its original purity, pruned of all modern excesses and excrescences. And what is the judgment we shall, in this case, render?

Posted by: Hugh at July 11, 2004 9:46 PM

Such acts of wickedness are only deserving of the severest punishment in hell, and none of them warrant any understanding or mercy. One day these monsters will have to answer to Christ for their sins against the human race.

Posted by: abad at July 11, 2004 10:46 PM

How do you know that this incident even happened? If it did, how do you know that Muslims were involved? All that appears in this short dispatch is a statement attributed to the police force of the Hindu occupiers of the Muslim land of Kashmir. Is it not true that many such reports turn out to be nothing but rumors and lies?

Even if the report were true, there is no description of the alleged crimes committed by the young woman. Suppose she were responsible for the deaths of many innocent people. Would she not then deserve punishment?

This whole thing smells of anti-Muslim propaganda.

Allahu akbar

Posted by: Reza at July 11, 2004 11:30 PM

reza, you muslim wannabe,

islam iteslf is anit-muslim propaganda

Posted by: oikonomakis at July 11, 2004 11:44 PM

islam itself is anti-muslim propaganda

(sorry for the typo)

Posted by: oikonomakis at July 11, 2004 11:45 PM

'Denying Terrorism in Islam is Kufr Akbar'

http://www.muhajiroun.com/

These people say it themselves: terrorism is how they Want to spread islam.

Does anyone on the Left want to contradict what islamic people themselves say?

Posted by: Gary at July 12, 2004 12:07 AM

My Indian friends at work ( Ironically the ones taking the jobs of Americans thanks to corporate lobbyists ) will be quite angry when I forward this report to them.

The only group more upset about the radical Islamists than Americans and Israelites are the Indians.

I like my Indian friends. I just wish they would stay in India.

Posted by: Peachy Carnahan at July 12, 2004 12:20 AM

Reza
Even someone as bigoted and ignorant as yourself must have heard of the TALIBAN.They are not only active in Afghanistan where they bomb women and children for having voting papers : they have been terrorising people in Kashmir for decades.
Mutilation, rape, stonings and burnings are all part of 'The let's serve Allah routine.' With your views you ought to leave your comfortable, secure enviroment in the West and join them. You sound admirably suited to be a gangster's Moll.

Posted by: Morgane at July 12, 2004 1:20 AM

With so many third world victims of the barbarism of Muslims, a fund needs to be started by true Americans to bring these victims over for plastic surgery adn rehab.
This would expose the vileness of islamic Jihad to the general public and educate pepole to the appalling dangers of the "peaceful religion".

interesting how the left would view such acts of humanitarian aid ?

the victims must come to the US as any treatment on their own soil would realise xero press coverage.

perhaps a "sponsor a victim of islamic barbarity" campaign ?

Posted by: chevalier de st george at July 12, 2004 1:27 AM

Reza;
Why the surprise??
Why the attempt at denial??
These barbaric terrorists were simply fulfilling the command from "most - merciful" allah;

Sura 4:47;
"O you who have been given the Scripture (Jews and Christians)! Believe in what We have revealed (to Muhammad SAW) confirming what is (already) with you, before We efface faces (by making them like the back of necks; without nose, mouth, eyes, etc.) and turn them hindwards, or curse them as We cursed the Sabbath­ breakers. And the Commandment of Allâh is always executed"

The only part they erred in was the fact that as a Hindu this girl wasn't one of the "Ahl - Al - Kitab"

The Demonic-ness of your 'religion' Reza, is continually being exposed. Islam will soon be rejected and millions will leave its ranks and embrace Christ.

"YahwehU - Akbar"

Regards,

kc

Posted by: kc England at July 12, 2004 5:39 AM

Is anyone really that shocked about this!!!
The actions of the peadophile worshppers, who condone the execution of violated women.
Anti-muslim propaganda my rectum!!!
The only thing on this page that stinks e-reza is your bullshit!!!

Posted by: Rikki at July 12, 2004 7:37 AM

KC,
You seem to be pretty clued up about the bible, wasn't it predicted that someday satans minions would come back to reek havoc in the world?
I see alot of simularities between muslims and followers of the demon king!!!

Posted by: Rikki at July 12, 2004 7:41 AM

Peachy Carnahan,
I've always thought of India as our "great sleeping giant friend", with a population of almost a billion, nuclear weapons, big-time beef with Pakistan over Kashmir(the worlds only official islamic nuclear power)they are the perfect ally. I sometimes long for the days when India was part of the british empire.

Posted by: Rikki at July 12, 2004 7:49 AM

This whole thing smells of anti-Muslim propaganda.

Allahu akbar

Posted by: Reza at July 11, 2004 11:30 PM

No, Raisin, what you're smelling is your upper lip. Your comments warrant a beating with a spiked ball bat. Wish you were here.

And Raisin wonders why many millions and millions of civilized people want these primates penned up, or vanquished.

For hating pork, they certainly fall under the category of pigs. Islam: Not to be believed, not to be trusted. Sneaks, liars, racists.

Posted by: DCWatson at July 12, 2004 8:56 AM

Even though you can't access it anymore, I'll still point out that Reza identifies herself in her email address as "rezareza666". Puts her comments in perspective, doesn't it?

Posted by: CGW at July 12, 2004 9:20 AM

I truly hate jihadists; but I also know that these atrocities can occur anywhere in any culture. Remember the Getti (sp) kidnapping? IMO, the difference is in the west these abominations are looked at and treated as against the norm. In many parts of the world they are the norm.

I may be wrong, but it seems to me that everytime some Muslem is shot in self-defense by anyone, the UN and others beat their collective chests in horror. But let a pregnant woman and her children be murdered in cold blood, a young girl disfigured, an entire group raped and murdered (as long as they are non-Muslem) and the silence is deafening.

Posted by: eneri at July 12, 2004 10:34 AM

US INDIA military co operation

As the link below shows, the freeworld is forming an alliance against these beasts.

http://www.outlookindia.com/full.asp?fodname=20040712&fname=Indo+Us&sid=1

We do not have the same sqeamishness as the west in dealing with this scum

http://in.news.yahoo.com/040712/43/2ewpm.html

Their prophhet was to dumb to realise (common sense to everyone else)that if you regard all others as your enemy the all the others will team up against you.
USA/UK/Israel/India/china/Russia.
The dumb beasts don't stand a chance, they don't even grow enough food for themselves.
WE WILL WIN.

Posted by: apostate_islam at July 12, 2004 10:35 AM

Mohammed was not a prophet. Allah is not a God. Mohammed was a drunkard child molester who imagined, during one of his drunken stupors that he was assigned to be the annt-Christ.

He was a self-appointed prophet, when in truth, he was nothing more than a hut-dwelling thug that somehow managed to dupe those even dumber than him to follow all of these imaginary commands.

Imagine how proud he must be, knowing that after 1400 years, his followers are at an amazing 62% illiteracy rate. Religion of peace? Cult of ignorance.

The world is laughing at Islam, the machete blood cult. No true God commands death to non-believers. Non-believers will simply not be permitted to enter the Gates of Heaven.

To call Muslims the hillbillies of the world would be a horrible insult to true hillbillies.

Posted by: DCWatson at July 12, 2004 11:08 AM

Apostate islam,
Loving your comment, one that is heart-warming to the core. Even though the allied collaboration which you spoke of was obviously on the cards it's still nice to see it comming together
Islamogeddon is nigh!!!

Posted by: Rikki at July 12, 2004 11:09 AM

Correction: Anti-Christ

Posted by: DCWatson at July 12, 2004 11:16 AM

DC~ Oh, I dunno. Ant-christ might be the Diminutive of Anti-christ....

(bad pun, sorry!)

According to that article, India has a pretty decent airforce. I shall be curious to see how the other countries fare on this.

Posted by: Gary at July 12, 2004 11:37 AM

"This whole thing smells of anti-Muslim propaganda."

You can't even lie good, RezaSatanAhriman666.

Posted by: abad at July 12, 2004 12:14 PM

"I'll still point out that Reza identifies herself in her email address as "rezareza666". Puts her comments in perspective, doesn't it?"

Reza is actually a common male Iranian name (kind of like John) but as far as I'm concerned this Reza666 is more of a girl than anything else, if you know what I mean.

Posted by: abad at July 12, 2004 12:16 PM

Abad,
Reza debate:
Male? female?transexual?
She's really more of a bitch!!!

Posted by: Rikki at July 12, 2004 12:29 PM

abad:

Although she uses the male name Reza, this Reza reveals herself to be a woman by her linguistic style and key elements of content.

Posted by: CGW at July 12, 2004 12:31 PM

Or maybe his/her secret is that he/she is ,in fact, a hermaphrodite!!!
How does most merciful Allah view muslims with both pieces of machinary Reza???

Posted by: Rikki at July 12, 2004 12:32 PM

Well if reza is a woman this forum would be the only way she is able to spout off opinions...lord knows she wouldnt be having any personal opinions at home or it would be a swift backhand across head for her....additoinally does her man (otherwise known as "master") know she is online...communicating with *gasp* MEN?

Posted by: USAgirl at July 12, 2004 12:56 PM

Gary, the pun was fine......Raisin, be it a male or a female, is certainly a needle stick in society's caboose.

Actually, aren't worms both sexes?

Posted by: DCWatson at July 12, 2004 1:14 PM

"wasn't it predicted that someday satans minions would come back to reek havoc in the world?"
Posted by: Rikki at July 12, 2004 07:41 AM

Yes Rikki it does, In the form of the Antichrist and his followers.

Jesus warned us;
John 16:2
"in fact, a time is coming when anyone who kills you will think he is offering a service to God."

Although I believe the Antichrist to be an actual person,(Who I don't believe will come out of Islam) the Bible teaches there will be a 'prevailing spirit' of Antichrist so-to-speak, which Islam fits perfectly.

1 John 2:22
"Who is the liar? It is the man who denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a man is the antichrist–he denies the Father and the Son."

Some characteristics of the Antichrist fulfilled in Islam; (In my opinion!)

*He will not regard the God of his fathers
Daniel 11:37

*He will have no regard for women
Daniel 11:37

*He will exalt and magnify himself above every god and will say unheard-of things against the God of gods.
Daniel 11:36

*He will attack the mightiest fortresses with the help of a foreign god and will greatly honor those who acknowledge him.
Daniel 11:39

* He will extend his power over many countries; Egypt will not escape. He will gain control of the treasures of gold and silver and all the riches of Egypt, with the Libyans and Nubians in submission.
Daniel 11:42-43

*He will also invade the 'Beautiful Land' (Israel).
Daniel 11:41

Regards my fellow Brit,
KC

Posted by: kc England at July 12, 2004 2:08 PM

Oh, by the way, here's the good news;

"Yet he will come to his end, and no one will help him."
Daniel 11:45

Regards again,
KC

Posted by: kc England at July 12, 2004 2:18 PM

On behalf of the American Pork Council, please refrain from calling Muslims "pigs."

It offends innocent swine to be painted with the brush of "Muslim."

While pigs do occasionally eat things they shouldn't, they rarely, if ever, mate with juveniles of their species.

Thank you.

Posted by: Bob Owens at July 12, 2004 2:33 PM

Bob Owens:

"While pigs do occasionally eat things they shouldn't, they rarely, if ever, mate with juveniles of their species."

But how do they feel about goats and camels? :-)

Posted by: CGW at July 12, 2004 3:41 PM

CGW~ Well, they don't have hands, so I have to guess they do it very carefully....

Posted by: Gary at July 12, 2004 4:03 PM

Gary, that was BAD... *chuckles*

Posted by: Bob Owens at July 12, 2004 4:28 PM

Alright. Unlike Muslims, who never apologize for anything, let alone admit that they're wrong, I'll officially apologize for calling Muslims pigs.

By the way, the apology is to the pigs.

Posted by: DCWatson at July 12, 2004 4:36 PM

Lastly, regarding the ones that mutilated this poor little girl, no punishment would be too severe for them. Instead of being ashamed, they're proud.

Posted by: DCWatson at July 12, 2004 4:38 PM

pride, Den?
I wonder what each individual who participated in this really thinks inside of himself.

Posted by: Afrafaste at July 12, 2004 5:06 PM

I don't know who Den is, but the ones who did this must be proud. They probably held her severed body parts in the air and yelled allahu akbar

Posted by: DCWatson at July 12, 2004 5:53 PM

I hope that the mutilation of this poor little girl is avenged tenfold. If Muslims were humans they would cry in shame for what the cowardly animal-like followers of their false dirty prophet have done.

Posted by: Islam Hater at July 12, 2004 6:18 PM

Hello Reza,

Don't take the attacks too personally. We know you lie, but you can't help yourself as this characteristic has been ingrained in you since early childhood. It is probably something you learned at your mother’s knee, starting with when she told you that she knew who your father was.

Who knows? Perhaps for you it isn’t a lie. If you really believe what you post on this and other sites, then you are not a liar. Technically that makes you a psychopath.

Society can afford to keep small numbers of people such as yourself for study in a controlled environment where they can’t hurt others.

But where there are people who share your delusions numbering in the hundreds of millions, it is time to rethink our position on genocide.

“The villainy you teach me I will execute, and it shall go hard but I will better the instruction.”

Cheerio,

Daniel

Posted by: Daniel Dravot at July 12, 2004 9:02 PM

You know, everytime I hear about - or see film clippings of - Muslims mutilating and/or beheading people more worthy than themselves (I know that last part goes without saying), I can't help but think of the Star Wars movies and the Sand People on Tatoine; the ones who are all bandaged up and sporting their rifes while stupidly making proud noises whenever they hit something. I have to wonder if George Lucas didn't base his idea for those characters on the Arabs - if you think about it, it kind of fits.

Posted by: paula at July 12, 2004 11:19 PM

More like the Fremen in `Dune`.
Anyway the moderates would say this would be all right. Heck, if Michael More was there he probably would have sharpened the knife-for better effect.

Posted by: hutchrun at July 13, 2004 7:27 AM

It's actually pretty sad that this forum has turned to bashing Reza instead of addressing the situation. Many people are so blindly against Islam they do not ask important questions. What did this gurl do to deserve the attack? Perhaps like in Vietnam, children such as her are guerilla warriors. Which sub-group if Islam is claiming responsibility? Because, just like Christianity, Islam has many different forms of belief, you wouldn't blame Catholics for something the Methodists did, would you? Have any suspects been identified at all? And before we call Muslims evil, lets think about what American soldiers did to prisoners in Iraq. And I was looking over the list of characteristics for the anti-christ, looks like George Bush fits most of those criteria as well. One last thing for you haters to comment on: take a look at Hinduism and its caste system, and how they beat and maim their own people who fall into the lowest level in India. These "militants" could have been Indians, but its hard to say because the entire article is 3 SENTENCES long. The only fact it states is the condition of the gurl, much more info is needed to make any educated judgement.

Posted by: MidniteZebra at July 13, 2004 12:02 PM

Midnight~ Reza is a useful tool. She spouts the nonsense that they (islamofascists) want the West to swallow, while they go about setting up their Terror campaigns world-wide.

If you read back you will see most of the 'attacks' on Reza are well-reasoned Refutations of what she is saying, with a great deal of information to back them up.

Also: Did the Methodists do something we should know about?

And why would we blame another denomination if it was clearly a Methodist?

Islamofascists terrorists come mostly from Wahhabi- but you can Bet they also come from Every Other 'Denomination' of islam.

Posted by: Gary at July 13, 2004 12:22 PM

And seeing as you have already determined us to be 'haters,' I am guessing reasoning with you will also be a Lost cause.

Posted by: Gary at July 13, 2004 12:23 PM

typical, typical. you pick out the one subjective thing i say and you pick on that rather than address the issue.

Islamofascists terrorists come mostly from Wahhabi- but you can Bet they also come from Every Other 'Denomination' of islam.

-Gary

Perhaps i dont want to bet, maybe i want proof before we start decided how these people should die and whatever else. you cant codemn people over a bet. what shall i bet about you? but enuff of this, lets talk about the real issues i brought up.

and your point about "blaming methodists" is exactly my point. you wouldnt blame an entire religion for the acts of a few of its members, so why do it here?

Posted by: MidniteZebra at July 13, 2004 12:30 PM

Indeed, Raisin is definately a tool. The answer to the question "what did this girl do to deserve this?", is Nothing. No one deserves this, except radical Muslims and their supporters.

By the way......it's far more than a few acts of Islamic members that make the world look at Islam as nothing more than a machete swinging death cult. It's the idiotic excuses made by Muslims, and the fact that they never admit to wrong doing. They justify their actions in their warped, tiny brains, pushing the blame for their many shortcomings on everyone else.

Pigs like Raisin make references of our grandchildren all being Muslim, and the implementation of sharia law. Neither of which will ever happen in the U.S.

Idiotic Islam makes up for less than 1% of the population, so they're taking over nothing. Surely they will die in the streets here, like they have since we've made way into the maniacal Middle East. Muslim immigrants are rude, demanding, arrogant, and most of all, too stupid to be any of previously listed three attitudes. They've pissed off the whites and the blacks, and will surely endure more beatings, or worse.

The Qur'an is not a peaceful book, and this forum is well aware of its satanic contents. Therefore, we're not fooled, and it pisses Muslims off that we're willing to tell the world about the Islamic agenda. Unfortunately for the Muzzies, we don't give a damn if they're pissed off. In fact, we welcome it.

Truthfully, I wake up every morning thinking about how I can upset Muslims in some way. It's payback for the way they behave, and refuse to adapt to our culture. I'll inconvenience them in any manner I can. The best way, however, to piss the Muzzies off is to simply tell as many people possible the truth about this cult. Islam is a plaque, and will be demolished.

It is not a religion, it is a cult. Mohammed was not a prophet, he was a rapist and murderer, not to mention a pathological liar. Allah is a stone, Little Mo's pet rock.......A figment of Mohammed's psychotic imagination. The dislike for Islam is not blind, it's justified. Deception will not work here.

Posted by: DCWatson at July 13, 2004 1:36 PM

Thank you DC.

Midnight~ I am not even sure what point you are trying to make. All you did was go in a Circle.

Back later, guys. This Catholic is off on wedding errands- which do NOT involve strapping on a bomb in the name of my God. (Midnight should do a google on MEMRI and look at some arabic tv shows before she comments here again).

Posted by: Gary at July 13, 2004 2:18 PM

DCWatson, lets clear up some things.

The answer to the question "what did this girl do to deserve this?", is Nothing. No one deserves this, except radical Muslims and their supporters.

Explain to me what they have done to deserve it, and show me your proof that the gulr committed no offense.

By the way......it's far more than a few acts of Islamic members that make the world look at Islam as nothing more than a machete swinging death cult.

Could you explain the Christian Crusades of the middle ages to me, and show how this is not the work of a "machete swinging death cult."

They justify their actions in their warped, tiny brains...

Explain how you came to the conclusion they have such brains, i want scienitific data.

Pigs like Raisin make references of our grandchildren all being Muslim, and the implementation of sharia law. Neither of which will ever happen in the U.S.

Perhaps not, but bad things happen here too... have you seen cnn.com and read the article about suspending the election this year. That is fascism, if anything is.

Idiotic Islam makes up for less than 1% of the population.

Unfortunately you are wrong. Islam is the second largest religion in the world, and it has over 1 billion followers. This is closer to 16% of the population. Perhaps you meant in this country, again you are wrong, there are more Muslims in this country than Jews.

The Qur'an is not a peaceful book, and this forum is well aware of its satanic contents.

I suppose you would say the Bible is a peaceful book. But have you read the Qur'an? What I have read of it makes no reference to Satanic practices.

Truthfully, I wake up every morning thinking about how I can upset Muslims in some way. It's payback for the way they behave, and refuse to adapt to our culture.

First I must say anyone who wakes up wanting to piss people off has some emotional trouble they need help with, but why should they adapt our culture? Is our violent, pornographic, and consumeristic American culture the right one? I do not want to adapt to your culture, and I'm from America, so why should they? Do you have a problem with Mexicans not "adapting" our culture? And btw, I think you mean adOpt, o not a.

It is not a religion, it is a cult.

As is Christianity, Buddhism, Hinduism... check your definition of cult, and you'll find many things to be cults... so this isn't actually an insult.

So, my question, DCWatson, is where has your hate come from? American media propaganda? Movies? Video Games? It cant come from knowing the truth, because you don't know it. If you want to dislike Islam, go ahead, just don't lie about it. And before you throw stones from your Christian house, remember it's made of glass too. Wait, didn't Jesus say that? Isn't that weird...

Posted by: MidniteZebra at July 13, 2004 2:40 PM

Zebra-Offense or not, a 14 year old child does not deserve to have body parts cut from her person. Only Islamic animals think like that.

Christian Crusades: A direct result of Muslim aggression. Islam was born in war and grew the same way. Since 624 A.D., Islam has been involced in excess of 200 mid-scale to full scale wars.

What have Muslims done to deserve it? Answer: crawl out of your cave and watch the news. Any news, they all show these barbaric Muslim cut-throats beheading people that are bound and weaponless.

They come to America, they need to respect American culture, and American law. There is no sharia here. If I went to an Arab nation, how much luck would I have getting a ham and cheese sandwich and a beer? Huh? What?

Islam is a joke, with a 62% worldwide illiteracy rate, 97% among Muslim women because their insecure, inadequate male partners know that if educated, Muslim women would dominate them. And if you wish to accuse me of lying about Islam, I obtained this information from an Islamic statistics site.

Qur'an 4:34-admonish them, leave them alone in their beds, and beat them? Wife beaters.....

So much for the "religion of peace", eh.

About Christianity, I haven't seen anyone's head whacked off by a Christian lately. Sorry, but the Muslims are causing the problems, it is what it is, so deal with it. F-Islam.

Posted by: DCWatson at July 13, 2004 2:53 PM

Idiotic Islam makes up for less than 1% of the population.

Unfortunately you are wrong. Islam is the second largest religion in the world, and it has over 1 billion followers.

Posted by: MidniteZebra at July 13, 2004 02:40 PM

Muslims are less than 1% of the American population......And, the billion or 1.2 billion, like most Islamic boasts, is over estimated by some 400 million.

Zebra, you sound like a true blue lib with your fascism remark regarding the election. Let me guess......athiest liberal? Muslim apologist? what? Anyone that comes to America should become familiar with, and respectful of, American culture. We're paying the taxes here, not the immigrants.

Zebra, stop hugging your a tree and let the breeze take you back into reality. By the way. In America, we speak English, not spanish, arabic, swahili, or french.......This is the part of respecting our culture. Immigrants need to get off their fat lazy asses and learn our language.

My grandfather came from Italy to the U.S., he learned English, became a U.S. citizen, fought in WWII for the U.S. and retired as a Post Officer. That's a good example of how it should be done.

Immigrants today are disrespectful of America. They should shut their mouths, and act right. This is why we live in such disarray, because foreigners come to this country thinking that we're in THEIR way. Wake up slap ass.

Posted by: DCWatson at July 13, 2004 3:11 PM

Midnight, please read some several hundred History books before you come back here?

Like most of us here have done?

The moment you brought up the Crusades you were lost.

And I DARE you to go to MEMRI and watch the tapes of arabic tv shows there. You want to see hate? Go there. Or look in a mirror. There may be serious Anger here but there is No hate.

You should also maybe find out what People are posting here. We aren't all WASPs like you would like to believe. In fact most of us aren't.

Posted by: Gary at July 13, 2004 3:30 PM

She ran. *sighs*

Posted by: Gary at July 13, 2004 3:44 PM

Guys, guys . . .

Can't you tell that MidniteZebra is a MUSLIM? Don't you recognize the rhetoric by now? Look for key words and phrases that all the muslims here use - they're in there. How about "stop telling lies about islam"? The adjectives used to describe American culture? Sheesh. You guys should be better at spotting them by now! :-)

Posted by: CGW at July 13, 2004 4:34 PM

Oh, yeah, and I forgot the key indicator : WHO ELSE would blame the young victim? WHO ELSE refuses to acknowledge muslim culpability, EVER?

If even you guys can't spot 'em, what's the average infidel to do?

Posted by: CGW at July 13, 2004 4:37 PM

I refuse to argue with drones. Email me when you grow your own opinions. I don't want to hear the propaganda vomiting from your mouths. Farewell.

Posted by: MidniteZebra at July 13, 2004 5:48 PM

That's it.....run off like twinkie and raisin

Posted by: DCWatson at July 13, 2004 6:12 PM

Told ya.

Posted by: CGW at July 13, 2004 9:58 PM

It's a new day, so let's start over. How about we actually look at the article. First, we MUST IGNORE Robert Spencer's commentary. The article mentions nothing about Islam or Jihad. All it states is a gurl was abducted by militants for suspected involvement with Indian soldiers. It details her injuries, and claims "rebels" have done this before. So, the article says militant rebels are responsible, not Muslim Jihadists. I do not see these words in the ACTUAL ARTICLE. THis is what I meant by growing your own opinion, Robert Spencer said they were jihadists in his commentary, so how hard is it to repeat this? Perhaps you should, as I said, formulate your own opinion based on the text in the article, not by what Robert Spencer thinks is going on, not by what I think is going on. The only reason I added my first comment was because the forum was no longer addressing what happened near Kashmir, instead people were bashing someone nicknamed Reza for sharing her/his opinion. Why would anyone do that? It's okay to disagree with someone, but why call them names, and insult them? Name calling and insults are not strong arguements. Now you have turned you attention to bashing me. When all I did was post my opinion, I shouldn't have called anyone a "hater" it just seemed that people were angry at Reza for sharing an opinion, then you did the same thing to me. Is that the American way? If you disagree with them insult them and blow them up? Then say God bless America? God does not bless the violent attacker, God blesses the relucatant defender. And please do not say America was defending herself against "terrorism" by attacking Afganistan and Iraq. Now lets straighten some things out.

Zebra, you sound like a true blue lib. (DCWatson)

athiest liberal? Muslim apologist? (DCWatson)

Zebra, stop hugging your a tree and let the breeze take you back into reality. (DCWatson)

Can't you tell that MidniteZebra is a MUSLIM? (CGW)

I am not any of these, I am a human, just like the rest of you. Why resort to stereotyping and name calling? Why not address the issues I brought up? This is how I treat you, I copy and paste your comments and refute them. Why can't you do that?

Zebra-Offense or not, a 14 year old child does not deserve to have body parts cut from her person. Only Islamic animals think like that.
(DCWatson)

Could you explain the actions of U.S. soldiers in Vietnam? Americans tortured, raped and killed young gurls in that country.

Christian Crusades: A direct result of Muslim aggression. Islam was born in war and grew the same way. Since 624 A.D., Islam has been involced in excess of 200 mid-scale to full scale wars.
(DCWatson)

How many wars has Christianity been involved in since before the current era?

Any news, they all show these barbaric Muslim cut-throats beheading people that are bound and weaponless. (DCWatson)

I don't watch television, it rots the brain. I do keep up with the news though, and I see American soldiers torturing people in prison. I see the bloody remains of children after a U.S. air-raid.

Islam is a joke, with a 62% worldwide illiteracy rate, 97% among Muslim women because their insecure, inadequate male partners know that if educated, Muslim women would dominate them. And if you wish to accuse me of lying about Islam, I obtained this information from an Islamic statistics site. (DCWatson)

This may be true, but it doesn't mean the people are stupid. The Qur'an is an oral tradition, Muslims memorize it. And I agree the Muslim world is sexist, but so is the Christian world. Why doesn't anyone point out the violence to women in the bible? Or the fact that in North Carolina it is still legal to beat one's wife on the steps of the court-house? And who made the stats, an American?

Qur'an 4:34-admonish them, leave them alone in their beds, and beat them? Wife beaters.....

I just read the 4th book of the Quran, this passage does not exist. The Qur'an states:
"As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them (first), (Next), refuse to share their beds, (And last) beat them (lightly);" (http://web.umr.edu/~msaumr/Quran/4.html)
But this point is moot because there are many wife beaters in America.

I can go on and on, because you only spout irrelavant facts or lies. Now, instead of bashing me, ADDRESS THE ISSUES.

Posted by: MidniteZebra at July 14, 2004 10:48 AM

We have been. when do you plan to read the copious answers? And a few hundred history books while you are at it?

By the way, that invitation to a pork-rib dinner still stands.

Posted by: Gary at July 14, 2004 1:55 PM

Guys:

Don't be fooled. MidniteZebra is a poser. Analyze carefully.

Posted by: CGW at July 14, 2004 2:34 PM

Yes, but the Invitation stills stands. I'll even slaughter a pig fresh for Reza, while she waits in the next room.

Posted by: Gary at July 14, 2004 3:08 PM