Muslims: Move them out, or pen them up.

Posted by: DCWatson at July 13, 2004 10:13 AM

You have to access this site to see these unbelievable photos...http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1170372/posts

Posted by: jawa at July 13, 2004 10:29 AM

From LGF. This is a good story about the situition with Blunkett in the UK. He wants special protections for our islamic friends.

LINK AVAILABLE AT LGF

A couple of years back, I mentioned the fatwa against Salman Rushdie and received a flurry of lively e-mails. It was Valentine's Day 1989, you'll recall, when the Ayatollah Khomeini issued his extraterritorial summary judgment on a British subject, and shortly thereafter large numbers of British Muslims were marching through English cities openly calling for Rushdie to be killed.

A reader in Bradford recalled asking a West Yorkshire officer on the street that day why the various "Muslim community leaders" weren't being arrested for incitement to murder. The officer said they'd been told to "play it cool". The calls for blood got more raucous. My correspondent asked his question again. The policeman told him to "F--- off, or I'll arrest you."

Isn't that pretty much how it's likely to go once David Blunkett's new protection for Islam is in place? If you're the "moderate" Imam Yusuf al-Qaradawi, you'll be invited to speak at the "Our Children Our Future" conference sponsored and funded by the Metropolitan Police and the Department for Work and Pensions. But, if you express concern about ol' Mullah Moderate, an Islamic lobby group will file an official complaint about you.

Indeed, after Sir John Stevens, Met commissioner and event co-sponsor, said he didn't want his officers on the same stage as the imam, the Muslim Association of Britain filed an official complaint about his comments. By the time you read this, Sir John might have already called for himself to be investigated by a Royal Commission and found guilty of systemic Islamophobia.

As for "Our Children Our Future", when it comes to children, the imam certainly has the future all mapped out: as he has said, "Israelis might have nuclear bombs but we have the children bomb and these human bombs must continue until liberation." Thank heaven for little girls, they blow up in the most delightful way.

If an Anglican Bishop were to commend a career as a suicide bomber to his Sunday school charges, you'd certainly hope to be free to question his judgment on the matter. Not that Anglican bishops ever say such things, of course. They're lost in anguished debate on whether they should just have celibate gay deans in long-term relationships or go for full-blown robustly active gay bishops, and all the thanks they get for their painful efforts to keep up with the times is wholesale public mockery of Christianity up and down the land - i.e. my old friend Alistair Beaton's satirical Iraq-war song, We're Sending You a Cluster Bomb From Jesus.

Meanwhile, Islam is the fastest-growing religion in the Western world, but Blunkett wants us to pretend that it's a wee delicate bloom which has to be sheltered from anything unpleasant. The other week, the governor of one of those Nigerian states that now lives under sharia called for the burning of all Christian churches within his jurisdiction. Every Friday, on state TV and radio throughout the Arab world and in mosques somewhat closer to home, the A-list imams call for the killing of Jews and infidels. Well, good luck to them. But, if they can dish it out so enthusiastically, couldn't they learn to take it just an eensy-teensy-weensy bit?

One of the reasons Arab nations are in the state they're in is because of the inability to discuss Islam honestly. I was in Amman for the Jordanian election last year and one of the things you notice is that, although the city does a reasonable impression of a modern dynamic capital and its press is, by the standards of the region, free-ish, its stunted political culture is subordinate to its religious culture. That's why, for example, Article 340 of the Jordanian Penal Code - which effectively licenses "honour killings" - always gets renewed when it comes up in parliament.

That's another reason the British Government should not be in the business of helping coercive lobby groups further stifle debate. Islam raises political questions that Judaism or Buddhism don't - the suggestion, for example, that Muslim women should be exempt from the requirement to be photographed on national identity cards. Without Blunkett's law, there'll be the odd crusty type from the shires huffing on BBC phone-ins that if Muslim women think it's insulting to be made to remove their hejab for ID cards, they should bloody well have thought about that before moving to Britain.

With Blunkett's law, we'll discuss such questions, if at all, between tightly imposed government constraints explicitly favouring one party to the dispute. I know which one of those options any self-respecting liberal democracy ought to prefer.

In The River War (1899), Winston Churchill's account of the Sudanese campaign, there's a memorable passage which I reproduce here while I'm still able to:

"How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property - either as a child, a wife, or a concubine - must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.

"Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the Queen: all know how to die. But the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytising faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science - the science against which it had vainly struggled - the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome."

Is that grossly offensive to Muslims? Almost certainly. Is it also a rather shrewd and pertinent analysis by one of Britain's most eminent leaders? I think so. If Blunkett bans the sentiments in that first sentence, the sentiments of the last will prove even more pertinent.

Previous story:

Posted by: Andrew at July 13, 2004 11:03 AM

The French police doubt the attack against the girl ever happened because witnesses have not come forward. They are studying video tapes, but can not prove anything.

2 things disturb me.

1) If it never happened (she did it herself), then how can a girl get on a train with torn clothes, swasticas painted on her, and badly razored hair and not one single person see her either enter the train or enter the station in this state. If one knows Paris, then one can see the difficulty in boarding a train in this state of dress.

2) It is probably easier for the French authorities to cover up the incident than to have to arrest and prosecute muslims in front of the world's attention.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3889549.stm

Posted by: oikonomakis at July 13, 2004 11:31 AM

Jawa,
Thanks for the link; I hope it sheds some light on what’s really going on in the world around us, especially to those who refuses to acknowledge the religious war that muslims has declared against us Christians and against the Jews.
I also hoe it enlightens Michael Moore and such people that have their heads so far up their a….

Posted by: Ramses XII at July 13, 2004 11:38 AM

Dick Clarke, warned about our internet vulnerabilities. 'bout time we listened.

Posted by: eneri at July 13, 2004 12:19 PM

@Jawa - thanks for the link too - I would like to get more sources - can you post them? - ThnX!

Posted by: FSoonKI at July 13, 2004 12:33 PM

Please, people, realize that Muslims aren't the problem. Let's support Khamenei in his exhortation to end terrorism.

This from the AP:

Ayatollah: U.S. Supports Iraq Insurgency

TEHRAN, Iran (AP) -- Iran's supreme leader on Tuesday accused U.S. and Israeli agents, not Muslims, of responsibility for the wave of beheadings and kidnappings in Iraq, the official Islamic Republic News Agency reported.

Ayatollah Ali Khamenei also described terrorism as a ``loathsome, horrible'' and said fighting it was ``of great importance.''

In comments made during a meeting with visiting Singaporean Prime Minister of Singapore Goh Chok Tong, Khamenei said: ``We seriously suspect the agents of the Americans and Israelis in conducting such horrendous terrorist acts and cannot believe the people who kidnap Philippines nationals, for instance, or behead U.S. nationals are Muslims.''

Posted by: Afrafaste at July 13, 2004 1:24 PM

Afrafaste,

Did he say this before or after he sent checks to Hamas and Hezbollah? As Iran is (I beleive) the largest state sponser of terrorism, I tend to feel he's full of shaheed, to say the least.

Do you really beleive the Jews control everything, everywhere? In issuing such a preposterous claim, do you realize how impotent and incompetent it makes Muslims by comparison? Not that Arafat wasn't already providing a wonderful example of that all by himself...

Does it throw any water on your claims when Zarqawi himself, personally claims to have beheaded Berg, or is he a Jew as well?

Posted by: Bob Owens at July 13, 2004 1:46 PM

Please Bob,

Look at my other posts....You have trouble
smelling sarcasm!

Posted by: Afrafaste at July 13, 2004 2:00 PM

Actually, I should remember "tones of voice" don't carry through postings.

Posted by: Afrafaste at July 13, 2004 2:02 PM

*lol* Not to worry, Afra, we all got a bit of flack on our intial shots at sarcasm.

Posted by: Gary at July 13, 2004 2:12 PM

Afrafaste,

Do you seriously even for a minute believe that we, as a civilized society would give credence to your remarks. Was it not the Iranian muslims who kidnapped the US embassy and killed people. Was it not the Iranian muslims who supported and financed the war in Lebanon and kidnapped and killed people in the 1980’s and early 1990's (remember Buckley). Was it and is it not the Iranian muslims who support and finance the jihadist against Israel. There are many more example that contradict the muslim lies, but, why trouble myself. Please, we want you to believe your own delusional misinterpretations, because this permeating ignorance will allow for a quicker defeat of your disease.

Posted by: oikonomakis at July 13, 2004 2:16 PM

Oiko, I think Afra was doing satire. I may be all wrong, but I think we're all on the same side here.

All the best.....

D.C.

Posted by: DCWatson at July 13, 2004 2:25 PM

Ooops.

Sorry Afra, but it sounded so much like the exact same words from Reza, Mahmoud, islam, and company, that it is sometimes hard to tell what is sincere and what isn't.

Posted by: Bob Owens at July 13, 2004 2:30 PM

Whne it comes to suspected "Islamobabble" I'm a firm beleiver in the concept of "reconnaissance by fire."

Carry on...

Posted by: Bob Owens at July 13, 2004 2:32 PM

If so Afrafaste OOOOPPSS with my humblest apologies but I support Bob's comment above with clusters,

Then to all muslim non satirists,

Do you seriously even for a minute believe that we, as a civilized society would give credence to your remarks. Was it not the Iranian muslims who kidnapped the US embassy and killed people. Was it not the Iranian muslims who supported and financed the war in Lebanon and kidnapped and killed people in the 1980’s and early 1990's (remember Buckley). Was it and is it not the Iranian muslims who support and finance the jihadist against Israel. There are many more example that contradict the muslim lies, but, why trouble myself. Please, we want you to believe your own delusional misinterpretations, because this permeating ignorance will allow for a quicker defeat of your disease.

Posted by: oikonomakis at July 13, 2004 2:39 PM

Saw on C-Span today a guy name of Matthew Simmons has to do with the Saudi Oil and he says they are running out? Has to do with the Hudson Instute ? Lecture was given on the 9/july .Could this be why they have started their jihad?

Guy turns himself in to Saudis from Iran? Was the claric who sat with UBL in the tape after 9/11 when they were bragging ?

This could be Why they are trying to take over Africa to keep the oil they are running out of but we can use the grains we grow to feed our cars and they will loose their dimmi TAX and they will starve?

The things we have they want but can never have? Because they live in slavery of their own making! Now the real ? is are we going to let them empose their slavery on Us I say Hell No! Saw a mulsum woman all in black with a baby while standing in line for a roller coster and asked her if she was hot? she did not say no said she was used to it well some women are used to their husbands betting them but we don't have to put up with that here in the USA like they do! Do not give in Free countrys to this crap get on that roller coster and fight to keep your Freedom yes it is scary but the other way is slow death and no short skirts in hot weather?

Lets keep our short skirts!!!

Part of the American Tribe
God Bless the USA and her Fighting Forces and All who Fight with her give them Strength and Courage to stay the course to Victory Amen

Posted by: Catherine at July 13, 2004 2:41 PM

Catherine, thank you for reminding me. Promised Reza a photo of myself in a mini dress. Knowing Reza, it would be wiser not to shave my legs.

Posted by: oikonomakis at July 13, 2004 2:49 PM

Mackie:

On another thread, you said:

"Actually there is one successful Islamic country that probably doesnt get the recognition it deserves and that is Turkey ( And why is that I wonder)?"

However, your post neglected to mention a very salient fact about Turkey: Islam is suppressed to within an inch of its life by the government.

Here is an excerpt from an open letter to Canada's Foreign Minister Bill Graham that I posted recently:

http://boston.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/21593

Why is it that in Turkey all the clerics are employees of the state? Why is it that in Turkey all religious schools are regulated by the state? Why is it that in Turkey the imams are even told by the state what to preach?

"Turkey's young governing party, with roots in political Islam, has confounded critics and some supporters alike by transforming the nation's 70,000 mosques into bully pulpits from which preachers advocate women's rights and other democratic reforms.

The government's Directorate of Religious Affairs, which dictates the all-important Friday sermons, has instructed the nation's imams to turn their spiritual guidance to the arena of human rights and ridding Turkey of unwanted vestiges of traditional society."

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0405090408may09,1,781, (“Turkey orders sermons on women’s rights”, Catherine Collins, Chicago Tribune, 9 May 2004, online edition)

Turkey is not a good example of a Muslim country that has made good because Islam is carefully controlled and regulated. If you can come up with a Muslim country that has done well that has not suppressed Islam, then I will be impressed.

Here are some quotations from Kemal Ataturk:

http://www.clubs.psu.edu/up/task/quotations.htm

" Now Turkey is far from being the scene of religious or shariah schemes. If there are any who desire such schemes they would be well advised to seek other stages for themselves." (1924)
" The Caliphate is nothing but a myth of the past having no place in modern times." (1924)
" The Turkish State is secular. Every individual reaching maturity is free in choosing his or her religion." (1930)
" The modern Turkish society, with its women and men being equal in every right, is a creation of recent years." (1937)
" Civilization is none other than culture itself." (1930)
" Only the Teachers and educators are the saviors of nations. A nation wanting of these cannot yet be called a nation. It may be called an ordinary mass but not a nation." (1925)
" Let us admit it: A nation which cares not for painting, a nation which builds no statues, a nation which does not meet the exigencies of science and technology deserves no place on the path towards development." (1923) "
"We do not accept a religion which ignores fine arts." (1926)
" I forgive them, because I have a heart. They do not forgive me because they have none." (1937)
" Full pleasure and happiness in life can be found only in working for the honor and happiness of future generations." (1937)

Source: Yilmaz OZ. 1982. Quotations from Mustafa Kemal Ataturk (translation). Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Republic of Turkey, on the occasion of Ataturk's Centenary.

Here is what Muslims have to say about Ataturk:

http://menj.tripod.com/Pejuang_Bangsa/ataturk.htm

Kemal Ataturk: Ghazi, Destroyer of Islam

"During the early days of Kemal's career, many of his followers were under the impression that he was a champion of Islam and that they were fighting the Christians. "Ghazi, Destroyer of Christians" was the name they gave him. Had they been aware of his real intentions, they would have called him "Ghazi, Destroyer of Islam." [1]

Thus were the words of Emil Lengyel, who commented on the personality of Mustapha Kemal Atarturk (1881-1938), the so-called founder of "modern Turkey". It is claimed that Kemal Ataturk is responsible for much of the development in Turkey and even today, he is revered by all Turks who hang his portrait in their shops and homes. In reality, Kemal Atartuk had actually turned the clock back and made Turkey the backward nation it currently is today.

Ataturk was responsible for the abolishment of the Caliphate and the gradual destruction of Islam and its traditions in Turkey. On March 3, 1924, Ataturk presented a Bill to the Assembly to oust the Caliphate permanently and establish the Turkish nation as a purely secular state. Consequently, he made the following significant changes which were gradually enacted during his rule:

1. The law of the unification (and secularization) of education of March 3, 1924

2. The Hat Law of November 25, 1925

3. The law on the closing down of dervish convents and mausoleums and the abolition of the office of keepers of tombs and the law on the abolition and prohibition of certain titles of November 30, 1925

4. The conduct of the act of (civil) marriage of February 17, 1926

5. The law concerning the adoption of international numerals of May 20, 1928

6. The law concerning the adoption and application, of (the Latin letters for) the Turkish alphabet (and the banning of the Arabic script) of November 1, 1928

7. The law on the abolition of titles and appellations such as Efendi, Bey or Pasha, of November 26, 1934

8. The law concerning the prohibition against the wearing of (indigenous) garments of December 3, 1934 [2]

These are the doctrines of Kemalism. It is clear from the laws that he had enacted that this man is without a doubt an absolute dictator-cum-tyrant of the so-called "modern" Turkey of his creation. Earl Balfour had once described Ataturk as "the most terrible of all the terrible Turks". Indeed, Ataturk had always in his mind the goal of abolishing Islam and the eventual Westernisation of his people. To Ataturk, Westernisation is akin to progress and development, and Islam is not part of this equation. This view is obviously a misguided one as the Islamic world has produced thinkers, philosophers and scientists in the likes of Ibn Sina (Avicenna), Ibn Khaldun, Ibn Rushd (Averroes) and various other individuals who were stauch Muslims adhering to the Qur'an and the Sunnah.

Ataturk had several times made frequent disparaging remarks about the religion of Islam and its traditions with words such as "Islam, this theology of an immoral Arab, is a dead thing." [3] Such blasphemy which he had uttered would have had costed him his life in an Islamic state, which is why this immoral bastard openly opposed and reviled Islam under the guise of "progress". Not to mention that this same individual was a known womaniser and an alcoholic who died of cirrhosis of the liver. This is attested to by all his biographers. One of his biographers, Andrew Mango, informs us that

"On the contrary, life around the Gazi, to use his honorific title, was fun, even when cirrhosis has set in although he did suffer from bouts of alcoholic depression which some friends thought were a result of not living up to his ideals. Living up to ideals is an option rarely open to alcoholics."[4]

Further, in his later years Ataturk lived in the Dolmabahçe Palace in Istanbul and breathed his last there on November 10th, 1938.[5] The strange thing was that Ataturk stayed in a building which was the main residence of the Ottomon sultans, in a city which was once the capital of the Ottoman empire (which he had earlier moved to Ankara). So we see that despite his constant reviling of the institution of the Caliphate, he ended up dying in a building that was built by the Ottomons, in a city that was once the capital of the Ottomons.

Going back to Ataturk's various enaction of laws to turn Turkey into a "secular state" that has remained prevalent 60 years after his death, Turkey has still remained backward and no significant development has been seen in Turkey since the implementation of such laws. Comparing with Malaysia, a nation that has declared Islam to be the official religion of the nation, Turkey has seen no achievements in the likes of the Proton and Perodua national car projects, Petronas Twin Towers or a Multimedia Super Corridor. Yet until today, those who openly insult or criticise Ataturk in Turkey are liable for punishment if they are caught (see footnote [5]).

It is thus clear that the secularisation of Turkey is, without a doubt, an obvious failure and Ataturk's dream of "modernising" his Turkey had instead turn it into a nightmare. The recent victory of the AK Party, a polical movement which has Islamist roots, is indeed evidence that the Turkish people are beginning to abandon the "modernisation" efforts a la Kemalism. Indeed, these ominous words repeated by the Sufi master Shaykh Muzaffar Ozak would clearly illustrate our point:

"I asked the late Shaykh Muzaffar [Ozak] (wd. 1986), the Sufi master of the Halveti-Jerrahi Order of Turkey, as to what happened after the almost complete destruction of the Sufi Orders in Turkey by Kamal Ataturk. He paused, smiled and said, 'You look upon it as destruction. We look upon it as slightly excessive grooming.' Then he continued, 'It is like chopping a grapevine to the ground. If he had chopped a little, the branches would have grown only a few meters away, but because he cut the whole grapevine to the ground, it will now grow all over the place. It is only a matter of time. Allah says in the Qur'an, 'They desire to put out the light of Allah with their mouths, and Allah will not consent save to Perfect His Light, though the unbelievers are averse.' (Qur`an 9:32)."[6]

Further discussions on the early life and history of Ataturk can be seen in Mustafa Kemal Ataturk: The Enemy of Islam.

MENJ

Posted by: Mentat at July 13, 2004 3:00 PM

Posted by: Andrew at July 13, 2004 11:03 AM
Meanwhile, Islam is the fastest-growing religion in the Western world, but Blunkett wants us to pretend that it's a wee delicate bloom which has to be sheltered from anything unpleasant. The other week, the governor of one of those Nigerian states that now lives under sharia called for the burning of all Christian churches within his jurisdiction. Every Friday, on state TV and radio throughout the Arab world and in mosques somewhat closer to home, the A-list imams call for the killing of Jews and infidels. Well, good luck to them. But, if they can dish it out so enthusiastically, couldn't they learn to take it just an eensy-teensy-weensy bit?

So let me get this right you are saying we get to play cowboys and mulsums?

The libs in this country will even learn to shoot when this starts happening you don't Know Americans at All?

Getting close to squerril season A good old boy got a few up on the border on of Canada last week?

Part of the American Tribe
God Bless the USA and her Fighting Forces and All who Fight with her give them Strength and courage to stay the course to Victory Amen

Posted by: Catherine at July 13, 2004 3:10 PM

mentat

Could this be why the EU will not let Turkey Join because they can not be trusted??

Part of the American Tribe
God Bless the USA and her Fighting Forces and all who Fight her give them strength and courage to stay the course to Victory Amen

PS I am sure Ark. is not the only state they have infotrated?

Court: E-mail Services May Track Your Messages
NewsMax.com Wires
Thursday, July 1, 2004
BOSTON – In an online eavesdropping case with potentially profound implications, a federal appeals court ruled it was acceptable for a company that offered e-mail service to surreptitiously track its subscribers' messages.

Guess the Terrorist missed this one?

Posted by: Catherine at July 13, 2004 3:43 PM

A comment on Mentat's lengthy post above....
I read enough to get the gist and nod my head a few times; essentially claiming Turkey to be secular rather than a Muslim state...and claiming that a Muslim democracy can't exist.

I agree, but this post refers back to recent observations regarding the lack of democracies in the mid-east which was a REGIONAL observation.
The Arabs conquered lands from Egypt thru Iran (caliphate) and the Turks later took it all over
(Empire) and that's the history from mid 600's to
the end of WWI. (Other lands such as Philippines and Indonesia went Islamic by peaceful conversion by Arab traders). A question that arises: when you dissolve a 1250 year old empire into countries; what kind of countries are you going to get? There's no nationalistic feeling per se....a feeling for empire on the global scale (and it's gone, now) and a tribal feeling on the local level. (eg: Saddam is of the Tikrit tribe, it's his main source of loyalty...it's even where he hid).

The only countries that could be created naturally were ones that were dominated by tribal leaders; this precluded democracies.

And look what would happen if we lost "our" tribal leaders....A democracy headed by uneducated fundamentalist Muslims....yuk. It's not so bad for me, my car weighs only 3000 lbs, is a stickshift and can be pushed easily so I don't need oil, I'm thinking of you other people
out there. (Believe me, I'm only thinking of you).

We need to teach the mainstream person in the Mid-East math and science; that develops the brain and they'll start thinking of other things besides Islam and form democracies naturally.

Where am I going with this post? I have to pack.

My mom's been having trouble with intermittent bleeding from her small intestines. So once in a while, doctors have her swallow a microscopic camera that shows where the lesions are that need to be burned (i.e. sealed). This camera was invented in the Mid-East and the country wasn't Muslim.
Shalom.

Posted by: Afrafaste at July 13, 2004 3:54 PM

Good post on Turkey Mentat. Very informative.

I am with Afrafaste on the need for the people of the ME to get educated, and not just an education in islamic studies. Any nation that develops a culture of learning and working does well, without fail. This is one of the reasons the Jewish people have done well as a group; they put great emphasis on learning and working. (And savings and investing). Saudi Arabia missed a historic opportunity in the 1970’s when oil prices sky rocketed. They had the cash to pay for a huge education program and “upgrade” their culture so to speak. What did they do instead? They put the entire population on welfare and funded islamic schools by the hundreds. They blew all their money of beer and pizza, metaphorically speaking. Now they and we are paying the price.

“Your grandchildren will be math wizards and will subtract islam from their lives.”

Posted by: Sheik canuck at July 13, 2004 7:59 PM

Some of them due get a modern education, in the West. It seems to magnify thier despair over the backwardness of their home countries and when they go back, they join the jihad. It's not the peasant arab farmers that threaten the West, its the educated, middle to upper economic class angry young men who need to be dealt with, and without prejudice as the United States Marine Corps is designed to do.

Posted by: Hulegu Khan at July 13, 2004 9:43 PM

"We need to teach the mainstream person in the Mid-East math and science; that develops the brain and they'll start thinking of other things besides Islam and form democracies naturally."

Or will they instead follow Mahathir's plan, and build weapon systems for the jihad?

Posted by: Doctor Phibes at July 13, 2004 9:53 PM

Can someone please tell me what the hell Michael Moore's trying to point out I won't even read a review of it because I know it will piss me off. I refuse to watch his garbage movie, but I know it's something along the lines of claiming that 9/11 was a US conspiracy. Does the fucking idiot realise that while comming up with such dross and exploiting his own country and government with such LIES he is giving the enemy even more help duping the public into thinking "muslims are peaceful/islam is a religion of peace" and creating an even bigger smokescreen some dimwits are bound to fall for it ;and then there's the liberals.I have never wanted to pummel a man as much as I do Michael Moore right now.God as if our forces in Iraq and Afghanistan aren't already under enough pressure, now this shit!!! This frigging unfunny little geek deserves to be tortured and executed , he's just as bad as Osama Bin Liner,
Maybe he should take a look at the photos on the exellent link JAWA posted for us (THANKS JAWA ABSOLUTELY STUNNING MY FRIEND) , take a look at how dedicated muslims are to eradicating all other religions , and lets face it they hate Americans and Brits as much as jews. I wouldn't watch Fahrenshite 9/11 if my life depended on it .Oh well at least we can take comfort in the knowledge that his cruddy, useless, trash , is set to be the biggest big-screen flop of 2004.Tough luck you sad, sad, little baboon!!!

The photo of the tragic SGT. Maayan Na'im is heart-breaking she is really beautiful.There are so many reasons to despise islam (HAWK!!!SPIT!!!).

Posted by: Rikki at July 14, 2004 11:34 AM

Hmmm. KeithJoy, I know, has the luxury of a job (which I Can't have while immigrating, thanks to Canada's rules). So we know why he disappears.

But I notice Midnight has disappeared. Why? She (he?) can't be off to do the serious work of Jihad, otherwise we'd never hear from her again. Save for the pic of another bomber being scraped off the sidewalk.

Anyway. I almost forgot to take out a pacK of pork ribs for dinner. Now that it is raining and cooler, I can stand to make a hot meal for my soon-to-be wife.

Midnight, I leave you a standing invitation to dinner. I make a very good barbeque glaze for my pork ribs.

Posted by: Gary at July 14, 2004 1:22 PM