Stop the insanity. The Saudis will not only spare his life; it won't be long before he has a highway or a park named after him, he is glorified in a tv biography, and goes on speaking tours across the kingdom calling for the annihilation of Christians and Jews.

The Saudis are a bunch of fkg scumbags. Why the heck the United States calls these people friends and allies defies human comprehension.

The United States should have spent a 100 Billion Dollars on alternative energy instead of going into Iraq and cut the Saudis and every Muslim country that produces oil off the United States money teat.

The Saudis take US money and spread it all over the world to fund hatred of the United States and everything it stands for. This situation is like Black Americans funding the KKK.

You Americans are out of your minds to put up with this insane situation.

Posted by: Mentat at July 13, 2004 3:17 PM

You nailed it, Mentat. I suspect that is Exactly what this is for: protection of these scum.

Posted by: Gary at July 13, 2004 3:21 PM

Did they say they would not kill these terrorist or just not cut their heads off? Now how could this guy have been in Iran and is UBL there We know his son and wifes are!! That will give the USA reason to drop a few MOABs on Iran because they are harboring UBL and that the Bush doc. says we can play cowboys we Know how to sit on the bulls not like the spanish who just get gored and run away?

We will not live in Fear we will win this war now how many have to die is up to the mulsums?

Part of the American Tribe
God Bless the USA and her Fighting Forces and All who Fight with her give them Strength and Courage to stay the course to Victory Amen

Jawa thanks for the link loved the USMC F--K More!!

Posted by: Catherine at July 13, 2004 3:54 PM

Reza;
The armies of the mighty Muhajideen are crumbling before your eyes.
They are surrendering en-mass to the victorious armies of the infidels.(pbut)
Repent now and embrace the "Great Satan"(swt)
The out come is guaranteed.

"Your grandchildren will be Disney World tour guides"

YahwehU Akbar.

Posted by: kc England at July 13, 2004 4:06 PM

It's need for oil, Mentat.

I could have thrown up when Bush met Abdullah at his ranch feeding him steak and ice cream....seething a kid in its mothers' milk!

We need the oil....but we don't need to be polite about it. We need to develop these hybrid cars better....get off oil dependence...educate the uneducated....and all that. simple...so...so...simple.

Posted by: Afrafaste at July 13, 2004 4:18 PM

Afrafaste:

You are weird or perhaps it is because English is not your first language. My whole point was that the US should stop using Saudi oil. And it is a relatively simple matter. The alternatives to oil are out there; they just cost more. The only reason we continue to use oil is that it is/was cheap.

Posted by: Mentat at July 13, 2004 4:53 PM

Mentat....

US gets most oil I think from Venezuela, but world availability is interelated among all oil producing countries. So even indirectly, we'd still be dependent on Saudi Arabia supplying Europe so that Venezuela doesn't have to and can supply us. (The US had best conserve its supplies until the sh*t really hits the fan)

What are the alternatives to oil for lubrication and motor fuel? I don't think the alternatives
are out there yet, though they're starting to be developed (hybrid cars). Still a long road to go.

Posted by: Afrafaste at July 13, 2004 5:02 PM

Bush has praised this development, but why bother? This is a trivial event. Saudi princes and princelings are indifferent to those whose attacks are aimed at Infidels, and concerned only with attacks on themselves. Meanwhile, every mosque in Rome, London, and Paris, and in the United States, and all over the world (not least, nota bene, in Niger), funded by Saudi money and subject to Saudi influence, makes those already malevolently inclined, as Islam insists, toward non-Muslims, to take an even more hostile attitude and perhaps helps to push them to action. Without Saudi money, there would have been no madrasas churning out a million graduates fit only for the Jihad; there would certainly have been no Taliban, or Taliban regime, without Saudi money, Saudi diplomatic recognition, Saudi support directly and through Pakistan. This will not change, and it cannot change. The belief-system of Islam is at the center of Saudi life. This has to be clearly understood; it is impossible for the Saudis to abandon their support for the Jihad, their contempt for non-Muslims. How can they, really? It would mean to turn their back on the center of their existence, on what gives their lives meaning, on what they are convinced defines them and their "civilisation." Expect nothing else, and you will already be far more sensible in your policy recommendations than many, in the corridors of power and think-tank offices, show any signs of being.

Posted by: Hugh at July 13, 2004 8:32 PM

Of course he 'surrendered', there's a luxury apartment in Riyadh waiting for him, complete with Pakistani slaves.

Posted by: Doctor Phibes at July 13, 2004 9:19 PM

Saudi Prince Nayif’s expressed his “disappointment" yesterday, that a negligible quantity of "militants" has taken advantage of the Government’s amnesty-period, announcing that it won’t be extended, sounding grave....

On the Arabian Peninsula, through the late 1920s, following the House of Saud’s expansion - by the sword - across the dunes, gaining diplomatic recognition and membership of the League of Nations, there was soaring internal resentment at the Kingdom’s foot-dragging, sporadic bids at tardy, sub-minimal modernization. This came from the numerous bands of arch-xenophobic, ultra-Wahabist, Jihadi warriors who’d been gleefully marauding about on the Saudis’ behalf up until then, seeking to carry their “Holy War” through all the dar el-Islam and then far beyond.

The proposed introduction of Radio in 1928 is reputed to have been “the straw that broke the camel’s back”: the Wahabi clerical establishment (who’d already been sharing power with the Sauds for approximately 180 years) - on hearing the “devil-box” emit the sound of Koranic prayers - grudgingly accepted the alien intrusion, reluctantly siding on its adoption with the King - who gave them full control over the medium (which they retain till today).

But the Jihadi fighters, the “Ikhwan” (the “Brotherhood” the “Company”), objected vehemently, calling it a betrayal, declaring the Government corrupt and apostate. Furious, outraged, in their pure and zealous, rank Islamic fundamentalism, they rose up in arms against the Monarchy.

From the British - in the nick of time - the Sauds procured a handful of machine-guns, a couple of light field-artillery pieces, a few cars (Rolls Royces customized for desert motoring) and a plane and pilot, plus several shadowy “consultants”, who combined these elements with Bani-Saud tribesmen (and some mercenaries) and crushed the Ikhwan’s rebellion in the next months.

In the late 1970s, hundreds of Islamist fanatics, “spiritual” descendants of the Ikhwan, striving to overthrow the Saudis’ rule and to impose their perfect Sharia State, seized the Grand Mosque of Mecca and had to be hunted down and killed, to the last, in its precincts - by commando-squads of the French Special Service (procured in secret - the House of Saud could never admit to its own people, and to the Umma, that it’s unable to deal with these terrorists itself).

In the form of el-Qaeda, a similar phenomenon’s gripping Saudi Arabia today and Riyad must know, from experience, what it has to do to cope with the challenge. It’s well aware, in addition, that at least in the near term, the Sauds will receive external support, since (especially at this unstable, geopolitical juncture) the alternative to their oppressive, feudal rule is a much worse prospect than the continuation of the House - for all of its brutality, malevolence and deceit.

There may be a further option to the maintenance of the Monarchy or sheer chaos or a Jihadi terror-state there - if circumstances arrive to merit it, the oil-bearing, Persian Gulf Province of Hasa could be detached from the country by the West and made a Protectorate, leaving the rest to its gruesome fate. However, a strong caveat: this approach would concomitantly necessitate the tightest of containment of the turmoil there, to the sands of Saudi Arabia alone, keeping it from consuming the region (a tinder-box at this stage). This’d be an immense undertaking indeed.

Osama witnessed the Ayatollah Khomeini topple the Shah of Iran, he participated in the ouster of the Soviets from Afghanistan; he’s thoroughly convinced of his personal “destiny” - to return to Saudi Arabia as its Mighty Hero, the Sauds’ heads in the dust, in a lake of their blood.

Like the Ikhwan, bin-Laden’s dreams are of world conquest, in the name of the same regressive, totalitarian cult of blood and violence as it had adored, plunging the globe back into the Dark Ages - this time, forever - using any means available, without any compunction, never sleeping. He’s feverishly at work to advance his plots everywhere, but particularly within the Kingdom (in order to capture its obscene wealth) and in Pakistan (to take possession of its 50-odd nukes).

Posted by: HGII at July 13, 2004 10:05 PM

Surrender, nothing. The jihadists are heading back into Saudi, this guy is there as Osama's proxy. Sure he's sick and all, but remember that Osama has help from his relatives and the Saudi government itself. Looks like D-Day is drawing nigh for the Dark Kingdom.

Posted by: caribsea at July 14, 2004 1:32 AM

I heard somewhere that his name in Arabic means Sheikh Dangly Legs.......

Posted by: DCWatson at July 14, 2004 5:56 PM