If this is true, I believe there will be a special place in hell for those who did this; expiditing that process is completely understandable.

Posted by: witness at August 9, 2004 3:35 PM

And these are the fellows, who literally hundreds of millions of Muslims worldwide 'sympathize' with..."Oh I am shocked. This is not Islam...but, you must understand them..."

Res ipsa loquitur...

Posted by: JTF at August 9, 2004 3:40 PM

JTF
you understand them we will kill them!!!

Do you think this was the Iran's guy they grabed over the week-end?

JTF
you are a terrorist! we will get you too!

Yes the Iraqi people will win their FREEDOM from this evil if they want to convert they will not have their heads cut off they will beable to grow food for them selfs unlike the rest of the mulsum land!!!

America will drill for our own oil and use our grains to feed our cars and the mulsum land will starve!!!

God Bless the country who has Heros!!! Pitty the country who needs them?

This dis-track-tion will not work Iran? You FOLLOW YELLOW MEN UBL,ARAFAT!! yOU ARE CURSED YOU KILL THE IRAQI PEOPLE!!

Part of the American Tribe

God Bless the USA and her Fighting Forces and All who fight with her give them Wisdom,Strength and Courage to stay the course to Victory Amen

PS
Looks like reza has moved to a different time zone?

Posted by: Catherine at August 9, 2004 3:56 PM

Harsh words won't get these to their rightful place in eternity -- a clear line of sight will and then they can reason with God.

Posted by: witness at August 9, 2004 4:15 PM

Harsh words won't get these to their rightful place in eternity -- a clear line of sight will and then they can reason with God.

Posted by: witness at August 9, 2004 04:15 PM

Tell that to the man who head they cut off??
who cares about what happens to them when we kill them ?
I sure don't even think about them !!

Evil Pure Evil!
Ishaq:464
“The Jews were made to come down, and Allah’s Messenger imprisoned them. Then the Prophet went out into the marketplace of Medina (it is still its marketplace today), and he had trenches dug in it. He sent for the Jewish men and had them beheaded in those trenches. They were brought out to him in batches. They numbered 800 to 900 boys and men. As they were being taken in small groups to the Prophet, they said to one another, ‘What do you think will be done to us?’ Someone said, ‘Do you not understand. On each occasion do you not see that the summoner never stops? He does not discharge anyone. And that those who are taken away do not come back. By God, it is death!’ The affair continued until the Messenger of Allah had finished with them all.”

YES pure Evil they cut their heads off all?

Qur’an 59:14
“The Jews will not unite and fight against you except from behind walls. They hate themselves. You would think they were united, but their hearts are divided. That is because these [Jews] are a people devoid of sense. Like those who recently preceded them [the Meccans at Badr], they [the Jews who were just sent into the desert to die] have tasted the evil result of their conduct. And for them a grievous punishment.”

We need to let Israel Fight and Win that will take killing a lot of them but untill they cry uncle don't stop killing them and when the cry uncle kill a few more to make sure they are telling the truth because remember they think it is their duty to lie?

Look at sader how many times has he cried uncle to come back with his army ? what are we on now? Time to finish the Job?

Part of the American Tribe
God Bless the USA and All who Fight with her give them Strength and Courage to stay the course to Victory Amen

PS
So you see I don't care about your PC I have Always been a good looking Redneck who wears sh-t-kickers!!

Posted by: Catherine at August 9, 2004 4:40 PM

Yeah, they're so brave these rat arsed muhjadeen,wrapped up like Ninja Turtles so we can't see their faces.Jeez, what bloody Heroes!!
Wait till we get 'em and we will, they'll be peeing in their pants with fear that they will get
a rusty, blunt knife sawing through their own necks...

Posted by: Morgane at August 9, 2004 5:32 PM

I'm sure Mr.Hooper from CAIR will get out his rolodex and get card for responses to beheadings.
By now Muslims must be ashamed at their cowardise
to see another murder for Allah and they must tow the line from the local Imam that Islam is Peace.

Enough is enough,with 1.2 Billion Muslims outside the USA and .004 percent or the worlds Muslims in America,it's looking like the other Muslims are true followers of Islam and they are the misfits.
CAIR does have a point,just because 99.6 percent
of the worlds muslims don't condemn killing Jews and Christians,should justify blaming the other
.4 percent of the good Muslimsin American that only want the infidel pigs killed for Allah.

Any Mosque harbouring terrorists and any weapons
will be a fair target,when it's empty it's only a building,idolatry is puting god inside the bricks and cement. Some Mosques in my area are old churches and god wasn't in the bricks at that time,why is he there now,how did the Muslims squeeze Allah in there.

Posted by: ala-sux at August 9, 2004 5:51 PM

Catherine,

"Res ipsa loquitur" in Latin means 'the matter speaks for itself'. It is a legal term normally used for assigning uncontested blame in court. I am trying to point out that the views of hundreds of million of Muslims is morally horrifying.

Please think before you pull your gun...you may end up shooting someone that actually wants to help you.

Also, your vicious posts do absolutely nothing to futher this cause: if Jihad Watch is going to make progress in heightening awareness of people worldwide of the real threat of Islam, reason, care, argument, evidence, persuasion will be needed. I look at the anti-Jihad movement as a struggle to awaken the consciousness of millions before it is too late...before we become embroiled in the kind of violence you seem to look forward to.

So, Catherine, the next time you threaten to kill someone just think: your threat does nothing to help, in fact it hurts the cause you say you want to promote. If we end up fighting in the streets the stuggle of Jihad Watch has been lost, because the 'Watch' will be over..all that will be left is violence...what we need to win the struggle to avoid violence is careful thought, and arguments that will actually impact policy, not rhetoric that will do nothing but puff up small minds and egos.

I pity you, and wish you the best in your own attempt to make sense of things and help...but please, try some other method.

Posted by: JTF at August 9, 2004 6:01 PM

Catherine

I don't have much to say to those who did these things; but I can assure you they have a date with destiny and an hour for just recompense.

While justice includes mercy; it also includes punishment. They seem to have overlooked that detail.

A quickened pulse does not steady the aim.

Posted by: witness at August 9, 2004 6:20 PM

So, Catherine, the next time you threaten to kill someone just think: your threat does nothing to help, in fact it hurts the cause you say you want to promote. If we end up fighting in the streets the stuggle of Jihad Watch has been lost, because the 'Watch' will be over..all that will be left is violence...what we need to win the struggle to avoid violence is careful thought, and arguments that will actually impact policy, not rhetoric that will do nothing but puff up small minds and egos.

I pity you, and wish you the best in your own attempt to make sense of things and help...but please, try some other method.

Posted by: JTF at August 9, 2004 06:01 PM

Written like a true lib

I think that all the terrorist attacke since 1983 have proven that they call for our blood not to talk peace look at all the peace loving people who went over there to help them even doctors and yess they killed them You can live in your fantsy world but I live in the real world and Post many passages from thier book the quran and it is very plan where they get their hate maybe you should read it it will help your thinking?

I know you lib's want peace so do I but the real world is "Peace through Strengh"

Guess you never rode a horse or been hunting?

Well honey this is hunting season!!

Part of the American Tribe
God Bless the USA and her Fighting Forces and All who Fight with her give them Wisdom,Strength and Courage to stay the course to Victory Amen

PS

How many have you converted?

Bukhari:V6B60N473
“Every created soul has his place written for him either in Paradise or in the Hell Fire. His happy or miserable fate is predetermined for him.”
Bukhari:V6B60N473
“While we were in a funeral procession, Allah’s Apostle said, ‘Every created soul has his place written for him either in Paradise or in Hell. They have a happy or miserable fate predestined for them.’ A man said, ‘Apostle! Shall we depend upon what is written and give up doing deeds? For whoever is destined to be fortunate, will join the fortunate and whoever is destined to be miserable will go to Hell.’”

And yet they kill themselfs for what? they can not change their destiney? They are marked to the Fires of Hell?

Posted by: Catherine at August 9, 2004 6:49 PM

Catherine, we know you are on our side. What we can't figure is why you keep Attacking people who have posted here numerous times and are also clearly on our side. I don't know if either one of them is a 'lib' but they sure don't talk like them.

Posted by: Gary at August 9, 2004 8:43 PM

There is no punishment to severe for these Islamic-bastards.

UNLEASH THE DOGS OF WAR!!!

Posted by: Son of Infidel at August 10, 2004 12:45 AM

to punch someone in the face is a pretty personal statement-because they will fight back and you dont know how strong this individual is-if he will knock you out with a single blow-or if he will put you into a submission move and snap a limb----but these terrorists are not men-a man would not kill a defenseless being-tied up and defenseless-a man would not carve the head off of another man to hear him scream and gargle on his blood and then be sprayed with the burst of blood coming from his jugular-only a subhuman would do this-an animal-more primitive and barbaric in nature. These psychologists say "suicide bombers and jihadists are actually rational human beings who are quite educated"-thats horseshit-what educated man would follow a false prophet and kill himself with dreams of a fantasy world where he can bang out 50 virgins--catch them-and execute them on the white house lawn, like the japanese did to our downed pilots. these fucks need to be given a taste of their own medicine. and to all those islamists out there who are reading this--YOU ARE NOT WELCOME HERE- we despise you-and the next time i see an arab im gonna punch him in his stupid looking ugly face cos im sick of this shit. And i would kill you but....we have LAWS here

Posted by: resister at August 10, 2004 3:01 AM

Catherine,
You forgot to add Al Sadr to that list of yellow, chicken-shit, cowardly weasels.

Posted by: Rikki at August 10, 2004 7:00 AM

If this guy is the Iranian they 'napped over the weekend....
.... well ; one muslim less.

PS-Don't they love all their "muslim brothers"?

Posted by: Rikki at August 10, 2004 7:02 AM

TRUE STORY
In Pakistan a few years ago (2000 I think) a serial killing peadophile was arrested and tried for the deaths of over 100 children, that he'd also abused I believe ( long live the teachings of muhammed).The court was horrified to learn that the murder method was by bludgeoning them after the rapes, chopping them to pieces, and then dissolving their bodies in a vat of acid.
The evidence against him was overwhelming , and he was found guilty, and by Sharia law ( an eye for an eye kind of ideology for death sentences) he was sentenced to death , in exactly the same way he's killed his young victims ; as was his apprentice ( a teenage boy).

And now my point; the west is far to soft. We cannot keep catching these vile insects and wasting stupid amounts of time and money giving them fair trials, when they would give our people and even their own , no such fairness and absolutely no mercy. Nor can we expect them to embrace a western style democracy with open arms, but that's a different matter.
I am talking about the trial Saddam Hussein there should not be one , the piece of turd should be forced to select his own style of death from a list of a thousand painful ones and given a 2 hour time limit, whereupon if he's still not decided the most painful one will be selected for him automatically ( I say this because it would be hard to give him the eye for an eye treatment as he's killed thousands). The same goes for Osama when he's caught, and when they get Zarawqi , he should be decapitated live on the net for all to see.
Why we are pussy-footing around giving these scum-bags such foreign concepts as fairness and mercy I will never know.

Posted by: Rikki at August 10, 2004 7:17 AM

How many heads will get sawed off before the world understands that these savages cannot be reasoned with? And, to top it all off, the murderers hide their faces. Cowards! They mutiltate and terrorize, and the rest of the world sits by, horrified and frozen into inaction, except to cry foul.

Posted by: WatchfulEye at August 10, 2004 7:23 AM

Sad, but this really is not a new phenomenon at all.

Moslems have been doing this for centuries, and where as other races and religions have become more civilised they are stuck in their backwards barbarism.

Since WWII this sort of behaviour has been commonplace in Islamic wars. It occurred in Algeria in the 50s and 60s, happened to the Soviets in the 80s in Afghanistan and 90s in Chechnya, and happened to Serb and Croat civilians in Bosnia. There groups of Saudis and Iranians used to fly in to take part as though it was some sort of animal-hunt.

Yet of course the Left Wingers never mention it as they can’t admit that Moslems are nasty people or they might louse their dubious funding sources.

The beheading of Westerners will continue to happen until a government faces up to the fact that Islam is the problem and the majority of Moslems are far from the "peace loving peoples" that the media depict them as. I’m sick of being told that it’s "only rogue elements" that support Islamic Terror when it’s clear that the majority of Moslems seem to support it.

Posted by: tranmere_rover at August 10, 2004 9:09 AM

Tranmere Rover,
Great comments, and all which I agree with.
It's great to see another brit among us that isn't an conspiracy-loving, PC left-wing ponce like the Truth.
Maybe you ought to change your name to a more respectable footy team though huh(lol!lol!)
Rik
Liverpool FC

Posted by: Rikki at August 11, 2004 8:58 AM

Thanks Rikki,

I think there are a fair few Brits who think the same as us. It's just it's not politic to question the loyalty (or complete lack of) of "British Moslems". 800,000 people voted for the BNP last time round. Personally I wouldnt vote BNP, but if one of the more mainstream parties changed to a more anti-islamic stance, or is a British Pym Fortein emerged it would get my vote.

If there was a 9/11 in the UK then I think you would see a much more vocal expression of British people's true views about Islam. At the moment people are worried about being arrested for racism if they "insult" (ie tell the truth about) Moslems.
A lot of other people in the UK I've spoken to in private agree with me on the following points:-
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1) Islam isnt a particularly peaceful religion
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2) There are too many Moslems in the UK.
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3) A vast number Molsems have NOT (and dont seem to want to be) integrated into the UK. Unlike other immigrant groups who have successfully assimilated (eg Poles and Italians post WWII, Irish and more recently Latin Americans).
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4) As a result Islamic immigration to the UK should pause/stop until the war on terror is over.
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5) Islamic communities in the UK should be the focus of police attention/investigations.
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6) Vocal support for terrorism (like Abu Hamza) should be punished and/or ejected from this country.
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7) All Western Governments, despite the speeches and rhetoric, are not taking this problem seriously enough. Relations with Saudi Arabia should be cut and accommodation/asylum should NOT be given to Chechen etc terrorists.
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8) The "British" captives in Guantanamo who were caught in Afghanistan having traveled there to fight the coalition, they were not in Kabul for a nice holiday. Such an act borders on treason (William Joyce was shot for less in WWII); these individuals forfeited their rights of British protection when they chose such a path. Frankly they are lucky to still be alive as if the US had handed them over to the Northern Alliance they would almost certainly have been shot on site.

I wonder where all these lefties who complain about the 600 (out of 2 million) Moslems arrested since 9/11, were when far, far more Irish were arrested and detained in the 70s and 80s ?

Posted by: tranmere_rover at August 12, 2004 5:26 AM