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"In a certain sense, the West has become part of the global jihad, to spread jihad around the world." No kidding. From WND:
U.S. officials say Saudi Arabia has eliminated al-Qaida leadership at home but continues to fund the terrorist network abroad, reports Geostrategy-Direct, the global intelligence news service.Officials said Saudi Arabia has captured or killed many al-Qaida leaders over the last three months. Saudi security forces, with support from U.S. intelligence and law enforcement, raided al-Qaida strongholds in Buraida, Mecca, Jeddah and Riyadh, they said.
"Saudi Arabia is working hard to shut down the facilitators and financial supporters of terrorism, and they have captured or killed many first-tier leaders of the al-Qaida organization in Saudi Arabia," the White House said in a Sept. 11 statement. "Today, because Saudi Arabia has seen the danger and joined the war on terror, the American people are safer."...
But U.S. officials said Saudi Arabia has failed to stop financing to al-Qaida. Despite U.S. appeals, Saudi charities continue to relay funds to al-Qaida abroad, particularly in financing Arab operatives in Africa and Chechnya.
In September, the U.S. Treasury Department designated the U.S. and Comoros branches of the Al Haramain Foundation, a state-sponsored Saudi charity, as financiers of terrorism. The department also designated a director of Al Haramain in the United States, Suliman Al Buthe, as a financier and facilitator of terrorism.
So far, more than a dozen branches of Al Haramain have been listed as facilitators of terrorism. These include the former director of the foundation, Aqeel Abdul Aziz Al Aqil. Al Haramain has dismissed the U.S. designations.
Officials said the latest designation came after more than two years of cooperation between U.S. and Saudi officials investigating Al Haramain's financial activities. The FBI and other federal agencies have also investigated Al Haramain branches in the United States.
"The investigation shows direct links between the U.S. branch and Osama Bin Laden," the Treasury Department said. "In addition, the affidavit alleges the U.S. branch of AHF criminally violated tax laws and engaged in other money-laundering offenses."...
"The Saudis have been jolted by the al-Qaida threat," said Dore Gold, a senior Israeli government consultant and president of the Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs. "At the same time, they are ideologically committed to supporting jihad externally."...
Yehudit Barsky, an analyst with the American Jewish Committee, cited U.S. reports that Riyadh has pumped $70 billion in the propagation of Wahabi ideology around the world since the 1970s. Barsky said the Saudi goal was to bolster radical Muslims in their effort to turn the West into part of the Islamic world.
"In a certain sense, the West has become part of the global jihad, to spread jihad around the world," she said.
Posted by Robert at September 25, 2004 7:48 AM
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Where's kj?
Posted by: CGW
at September 25, 2004 9:41 AM
He didn't comment because the Bush administration is being on the ball with this stuff.
Posted by: Gary
at September 25, 2004 10:42 AM
is the USA in biblical prophecy?
http://www.mychristiansite.com/ministries/jmccutchan/index.html
Posted by: forrest shalom
at September 25, 2004 11:01 AM
to forrest shalom:
i am quite sensitive to the rules of the forum to keep the discussion on jihad, but i will depart temporarily to point out alternative answers to your query:
the USA is indeed in Bible prophecy -- it is the lamb-like beast in the second half of revelation 13
the 70 week prophecy deals with the first coming of Jesus Christ. (note that the Talmud has instructed that the time prophecies of Daniel are not to be calculated. this is one of the reasons why Judaism is able to maintain that Jesus Christ is not the Messiah.)
note: "going forth of the command to rebuild Jerusalem" was given in the fall of 457 b.c. by cyrus
69 weeks = 69 x 7 days = 483 prophetic years
this places time at fall of 27 b.c. (there was no year zero) when John the Baptist baptized Jesus and Jesus began his ministry
3 1/2 years later in the spring of 30 a.d., Jesus was crucified.
3 1/2 years later (end of 70 week prophecy) Stephen became first Christian martyr
Posted by: ted
at September 25, 2004 3:09 PM
correction:
"3 1/2 years later in the spring of 30 a.d., Jesus was crucified."
should read as follows:
"3 1/2 years later in the spring of 31 a.d., Jesus was crucified."
indeed, stephen was stoned in 34 a.d.
at September 25, 2004 3:11 PM
Abhor rotten House of Saud and believe I will see it tumble down during my lifetime. A report here and there shows Al Quaida is ALIVE AND WELL in the
Kingdom.
at September 25, 2004 4:47 PM
Anyone who believes anything the filthy, rotten, terrorist, muslim, bastard saudis say or the State Dept., deserves what they get.
saudi financed mosques here in the US are *centers* of muslim terrorism.
The testicle-less "intelligence" community and outright arabist State dept are the saudi government's boys (in every sense of the word) here in the U.S.
jihad is jihad is jihad.
arab is arab is arab.
muslim is muslim is muslim.
saudi is saudi is saudi.
islam is islam is islam.
at September 25, 2004 5:25 PM
Itai,
"jihad is jihad is jihad.
arab is arab is arab.
muslim is muslim is muslim.
saudi is saudi is saudi.
islam is islam is islam."
You got it right. Or, as Aristotle put it, "A is A." A thing is what it is, no more, no less. It has a specific nature, and it is defined and identified by the characteristics of its nature.
For example, as you so accurately point out, "Anyone who believes anything the filthy, rotten, terrorist, muslim, bastard saudis say or the State Dept., deserves what they get."
Robert for President
Hugh for State
at September 25, 2004 9:30 PM
Ted
You say: this places time at fall of 27 b.c. (there was no year zero) when John the Baptist baptized Jesus and Jesus began his ministry
Shouldn't that be 27 AD instead? Coz 3.5 yr later we end up in 31 AD directly.
Posted by: voletti
at September 25, 2004 11:42 PM
here is a strictly biblical study on the timing of
Israel's Messiah's first coming:
http://www.messiahnj.org/af-timetable.htm
and this most DEFINITELY has relevance to the subject of islamic jihad because it is Yeshua who is the only one capable of eliminating it and will do so at His second coming.
Unfortunately islam's allies in the west share its fate... including the usa: mystery babylon the great.
to escape this mess, receive Yeshua while you can or you might find yourself in the Great Tribulation.
1Th 5:9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ
Posted by: forrest shalom
at September 26, 2004 10:58 AM


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