This just proves they are losing...."move along nothing to see here...disregard the MUSLIMS praising allah as they saw peoples heads off...disregard MUSLIMS shooting children in the back...you non muslims did not see any of this, clearly the Jews have cast a spell on you so that you THINK muslims are committing crimes CLEARLY agaisnt islam"....I dont think it is herbs that they are smoking in those giant pipes....this guy is too late to pull the burka over our eyes

Posted by: USAgirl at September 28, 2004 10:29 AM

OH REALLY?

INTOLERANCE:

Qur’an 9:71 “O Prophet, strive hard [fighting] against the unbelievers and the Hypocrites, and be harsh with them. Their abode is Hell, an evil refuge indeed.”
Qur’an 8:59 “The infidels should not think that they can get away from us. Prepare against them whatever arms and weaponry you can muster so that you may terrorize them.”
Qur’an 4:168 “Those who reject [Islamic] Faith, Allah will not forgive them nor guide them to any path except the way to Hell, to dwell therein forever. And this to Allah is easy.”
Qur’an 4:114 “He who disobeys the Apostle after guidance has been revealed will burn in Hell.”
Ishaq:344 “We smote them and they scattered. The impious met death. They became fuel for Hell. All who aren’t Muslims must go there. It will consume them while the Stoker [Allah] increases the heat. They had called Allah’s Apostle a liar. They claimed, ‘You are nothing but a sorcerer.’ So Allah destroyed them.”
Qur’an 33:60 “Truly, if the Hypocrites stir up sedition, if the agitators in the City do not desist, We shall urge you to go against them and set you over them. They shall have a curse on them. Whenever they are found, they shall be seized and slain without mercy—a fierce slaughter—murdered, a horrible murdering.”
Qur’an 33:64 “Verily Allah has cursed the Unbelievers [whom he defines as Christians in the 5th surah] and has prepared for them a Blazing Fire to dwell in forever. No protector will they find, nor savior. That Day their faces will be turned upside down in the Fire. They will say: ‘Woe to us! We should have obeyed Allah and obeyed the Messenger!’ ‘Our Lord! Give them double torment and curse them with a very great Curse!’”
Qur’an 5:10 “Those who reject, disbelieve and deny Our signs, proofs and verses will be companions of Hell-Fire.”
Qur’an 88:1 “Has the narration reached you of the overwhelming (calamity)? Some faces (all disbelievers, Jews and Christians) that Day, will be humiliated, downcast, scorched by the burning fire, while they are made to drink from a boiling hot spring.”
Bukhari:V1B11N617 “I would order someone to collect firewood and another to lead prayer. Then I would burn the houses of men who did not present themselves at the compulsory prayer and prostration.”
Bukhari:V1B11N626 “The Prophet said, ‘No prayer is harder for the hypocrites than the Fajr. If they knew the reward they would come to (the mosque) even if they had to crawl. Certainly I decided to order a man to lead the prayer and then take a flame to burn all those who had not left their houses for the prayer, burning them alive inside their homes.’”
Bukhari:V4B52N260 “The Prophet said, ‘If a Muslim discards his religion, kill him.’”
Qur’an 5:51 “Believers, take not Jews and Christians for your friends.”
Qur’an 74:31 “We have appointed nineteen angels to be the wardens of the Hell Fire. We made a stumbling-block for those who disbelieve and We have fixed their number as a trial for unbelievers in order that the People of the Book may arrive with certainty, and that no doubts may be left for the People of the Book, those in whose hearts is a disease.”
Bukhari:V4B54N487 “The Prophet said, ‘The Hell Fire is 69 times hotter than ordinary worldly fires.’ So someone said, ‘Allah’s Apostle, wouldn’t this ordinary fire have been sufficient to torture the unbelievers?’”
Qur’an 72:15 “The disbelievers are the firewood of hell.”
Qur’an 72:17 “If any turns away from the reminder of his Lord (the Qur’an), He will thrust him into an ever growing torment, and cause for him a severe penalty.”
Qur’an 72:25 “Whoever disobeys the Lord and His Messenger then there is for him the fire of Hell where they shall abide forever.”
Qur’an 88:21 “You are not a warden over them; except for those who turn away and disbelieve, in which case, he will be punished with the severest punishment. Verily to Us they will return.”
Qur’an 90:19 “But those who reject Our Signs, Proofs, and Verses, they are the unhappy Companions of the Left Hand. Fire will be their awning, vaulting over them.”
Qur’an 95:4 “We have indeed created man in the best molds. Then do We abase him, reducing him to be the lowest of the low, except such as believe.”
Tabari VIII:130 “The Messenger said, ‘Two religions cannot coexist in the Arabian Peninsula.’ Umar investigated the matter, then sent to the Jews, saying: ‘Allah has given permission for you to be expelled.”
Qur’an 2:64 “But you [Jews] went back on your word and were lost losers. So become apes, despised and hated. We made an example out of you.”
Qur’an 66:9 “O Prophet! Strive hard against the unbelieving Infidels and the Hypocrites; be severe against them. Their abode is Hell, an evil resort.”
Qur’an 60:1 “Believers, take not my enemies and yours as allies, offering them love, even though they have rejected the truth that has come to you, and have driven out the Prophet and you because you believe in Allah! If you have come out to struggle [fight jihad] in My Cause, and to seek My Pleasure, (take them not as friends), holding secret converse of love with them: for I am aware of all you conceal. And any of you that does this has strayed from the Straight Path. If they were to get the better of you, they would be your foes, and stretch forth their hands and their tongues against you with evil (designs).”
Qur’an 60:5 “We reject you. Hostility and hate have come between us forever, unless you believe in Allah only.’”
Qur’an 48:13 “If any believe not in Allah and His Messenger, We have prepared a Blazing Fire for them!”
Qur’an 48:28 “It is He Who has sent His Messenger with guidance and the Religion of Truth (Islam), that he may make it superior to every other religion, exalting it over them. Allah is a sufficient Witness. Muhammad is the Prophet of Allah. Those who are with him are severe with Infidel unbelievers.”
Qur’an 47:3 “Those who disbelieve follow vanities, while those who believe follow truth from their Lord: Thus does Allah coin for men their similitudes [resemblances] as a lesson. Whoever denies faith [in Islam and Muhammad], his work is of no account, and in the hereafter he shall be one of the losers.”
Qur’an 9:2 “You cannot weaken Allah or escape. Allah will disgrace the unbelievers and put those who reject Him to shame.”
Qur’an 9:4 “You cannot escape Allah, weaken or frustrate Him. And proclaim a grievous penalty of a painful doom to those who reject [Islamic] Faith.”
Qur’an 9:17 “The disbelievers have no right to visit the mosques of Allah while bearing witness against their own souls to infidelity. These it is whose doings are in vain, and in the fire shall they abide. Only he shall visit the mosques of Allah who believes in Allah and the latter day, and keeps up devotional obligations, pays the zakat, and fears none but Allah.”
Qur’an 9:28 “Believers, truly the pagan disbelievers are unclean.”
Qur’an 9:30 “The Jews call Uzair (Ezra) the son of Allah, and the Christians say that the Messiah is the son of Allah. That is their saying from their mouths; they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah’s (Himself) fights against them, cursing them, damning and destroying them. How perverse are they!”
Qur’an 9:33 “He has sent His Messenger (Muhammad) with guidance and the Religion of Truth (Islam) to make it superior over all religions, even though the disbelievers detest (it).”
Qur’an 9:63 “Know they not that for those who oppose Allah and His Messenger is the Fire of Hell wherein they shall dwell? That is the supreme disgrace.”
Qur’an 9:66 “Make no excuses: you have rejected Faith after you had accepted it. If We pardon some of you, We will punish others amongst you, for they are disbelievers.”
Qur’an 9:113 “It is not fitting for the Prophet and those who believe, that they should pray for the forgiveness for disbelievers, even though they be close relatives, after it is clear to them that they are the inmates of the Flaming Hell Fire.”
Qur’an 5:78 “Curses were pronounced on the unbelievers, the Children of Israel who rejected Islam, by the tongues of David and of Jesus because they disobeyed and rebelled.” Qur’an 5:80 “You see many of them allying themselves with the Unbelievers [other translations read: “Infidels”]. Vile indeed are their souls. Allah’s wrath is on them, and in torment will they abide.”
Qur’an 5:82 “You will find the Jews and disbelievers [defined as Christians in 5:73] the most vehement in hatred for the Muslims.”
Qur’an 5:86 “Those who reject Islam and are disbelievers, denying our Signs and Revelations —they shall be the owners of the Hell Fire.”
Tabari IX:78 “No polytheist shall come near the Holy Mosque, and no one shall circumambulate Allah’s House naked.”
Ishaq:246 “Hypocrites used to assemble in the mosque and listen to the stories of the Muslims and laugh and scoff at their religion. So Muhammad ordered that they should be ejected. They were thrown out with great violence. Abu went to Amr, took his foot and dragged him out of the mosque. Another Muslim slapped a man’s face while dragging him forcefully, knocking him down. One was pulled violently by his hair. ‘Don’t come near the Apostle’s mosque again, for you are unclean.’ The first hundred verses of the Cow surah came down in reference to these Jewish rabbis and Hypocrites.”
Ishaq:262 “Some Muslims remained friends with the Jews, so Allah sent down a Qur’an forbidding them to take Jews as friends. From their mouths hatred has already shown itself and what they conceal is worse.”
Qur’an 5:51 “Believers, take not Jews and Christians for your friends. They are but friends and protectors to each other.”
Ishaq:245 “The Apostle used to say, ‘Their religion will never march with ours.’”
Bukhari:V4B52N288 “Expel disbelievers from the Arabian Peninsula.’”
Qur’an 2:191 “Slay them wherever you find and catch them, and drive them out from where they have turned you out; for persecution and oppression are worse than slaughter.”
Qur’an 33:25 “Allah drove the disbelievers back...and helped the believers in battle.... He terrorized the People of the Book so that you killed some and made many captive.”
Tabari IX:167 “Muhammad waged war against the false prophets [slitting his own wrists would have done nicely] by sending messengers with instructions to get rid of them by artful contrivance [plot or machination].”
Bukhari:V5B59N727 “When Allah’s Apostle became seriously sick, he started covering his face with a woolen sheet. When he felt short of breath, he removed it, and said, ‘That is so! Allah’s curse be on Jews and Christians.’”
Qur’an 21:98 “Verily you (disbelieving Infidels), and the gods that you worship besides Allah, are the fuel for Hell, faggots for the fire! Certainly you will enter it! Had their (idols) been (real) alihah (gods), they would have kept them out of Hell. Therein, sobbing will be your lot. Breathing with deep sighs, roaring. You will hear nothing but wailing and groaning.”
Qur’an 18:103 “Say: ‘Shall we inform you of who will be the greatest losers? …Those who reject my Revelations… Hell is their reward, because they rejected Islam, and took My proofs, verses, and lessons, and those of My Messengers by way of jest in mockery.’”
Qur’an 52:9 “On the Day when heaven will heave in dreadful shaking, trembling, and mountains will fly hither and thither, woe to those who reject [me], that play in shallow trifles and sport in vain discourses. That Day they will be pushed down by force, thrust with a horrible thrust into the Fire of Hell. Unable to resist, they shall be driven to the fire with violence.”
Qur’an 40:10 “Lo, those who disbelieve will be informed by proclamation: ‘Verily Allah’s abhorrence is more terrible than your aversion to yourselves. Allah’s hatred of you is terrible, seeing that you were called to the Faith [of submission] and you refused.’”
Qur’an 40:35 “Those who dispute the Signs and Verses of Allah without any authority, grievous and odious, hateful and disgusting, is it in the sight of Allah and the Believers.’”
Ishaq:185 “Adam reviewed the spirits of his offspring. The infidels excited his disgust. I saw men with lips like camels. In their hands were pieces of fire like stones which they thrust into their mouths. They came out their posteriors.”
Qur’an 20:48 “Verily it has been revealed to us that the Penalty of Doom awaits those who reject and deny.”
Qur’an 20:100 “Whoever turns from it, he shall bear a burden on the Day of Doom. Grievous evil will the load on them. We shall gather the Mujrimun (disbeliever) blue or blind-eyed with thirst.... My Lord will blast them and scatter them as dust.”
Qur’an 21:06 “Not one of the populations which We destroyed believed: will these believe? ...So we saved whom We pleased, and We destroyed the disbelievers.”
Qur’an 21:10 “Verily, We have sent down for you a Book in which is your reminder. Have you then no sense? How many towns have We utterly destroyed because of their wrongs, exchanging them for other people? When they (felt) Our Torment, behold, they (began to) fly. Fly not, but return to that which emasculated you so that you may be interrogated. They cried: ‘Woe to us!’ Their crying did not cease till We mowed them down as ashes silent and quenched.”
Qur’an 21:98 “Verily you (unbelievers), and that which you worship besides Allah, are faggots for the Hell Fire! And come to it you will! There, sobbing and groaning will be your lot.”
Qur’an 46:20 “On that Day the unbelievers will be placed before the Fire: ‘You squandered your good things in this life and you sought comfort from them, but today shall you be rewarded with a penalty of humiliation.’”
Qur’an 59:4 “If any one resists Allah, verily Allah is severe in Punishment, stern in reprisal.”
Ishaq:249 “Fear Hell, whose fuel is men and stones prepared for the infidels.’”
Qur’an 2:39 “Those who reject and deny Our Signs will be inmates of the Hell Fire and will abide there forever.”
Qur’an 2:99 “We have sent down to you Manifest Signs; and none reject them but those who are perverse.”
Qur’an 2:71 “The semblance of the infidels is one who shouts to one who cannot hear. They are deaf, dumb, and blind. They make no sense.”
Qur’an 2:174 “Those who conceal Allah’s revelations in the [Bible] Scripture Book, and thus make a miserable profit thereby [selling it to Muhammad], swallow Fire into themselves; Allah will not address them. Grievous will be their doom.” Qur’an 2:175 “They are the ones who bartered away guidance for error and Torment in place of Forgiveness. Ah, what boldness (they show) for the Fire! (Their doom is) because Allah sent down the Book in truth but those who seek causes of dispute in the Book are in a schism of great opposition.”
Qur’an 2:256 “There is no compulsion in religion.” Qur’an 4:90 “If they turn back from Islam, becoming renegades, seize them and kill them wherever you find them.”
Bukhari:V5B59N572 “O Muslims, take not My enemies as friends, offering them kindness when they reject Allah, the Prophet Muhammad, and his Qur’an. And whoever does that, then indeed he has gone (far) astray. You have come out to fight in My Cause, seeking My acceptance so do not be friendly with them, even in secret.” [60:1]
Qur’an 8:12 “I will terrorize the unbelievers. Therefore smite them on their necks and every joint and incapacitate them. Strike off their heads and cut off each of their fingers and toes.” Qur’an 8:13 “This because they rejected Allah and defied His Messenger. If anyone opposes Allah and His Messenger, Allah shall be severe in punishment. That is the torment: ‘So taste the punishment. For those infidels who resist there is the torment of Hell.’”
Qur’an 8:20 “Those who do not obey are the worst of beasts, the vilest of animals in the sight of Allah. They are deaf and dumb. Those who do not understand are senseless.”
Qur’an 8:36 “The unbelievers spend their wealth to hinder (man) from the Way of Allah, and so will they continue to spend; but in the end they will have intense regrets and sighs. It will become an anguish for them, then they will be subdued. The unbelievers shall be driven into hell in order that Allah may distinguish the bad from the good and separate them. Allah wants to heap the wicked one over the other and cast them into Hell. They are the losers.”
Qur’an 8:39 “So fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief [non-Muslims]) and all submit to the religion of Allah alone (in the whole world).”
Qur’an 8:40 “If people are obstinate, and refuse to surrender, know Allah is your Supporter.”
Qur’an 8:50 “If you could have seen the infidels when the angels drew away their souls, striking their faces and smiting their backs. The angels said: ‘Taste the penalty of the blazing Fire.’”
Qur’an 8:52 “They denied and rejected the revelations of Allah, and Allah destroyed them, punishing them for their crimes: for Allah is strict, severe in punishment.”
Ishaq:231 “Muslims are one ummah (community) to the exclusion of all men. Believers are friends of one another to the exclusion of all outsiders.”
Ishaq:363 “Say to those who do not believe you: ‘You will be vanquished and gathered into Hell, an evil resting place.’”
Qur’an 61:7 “Who does greater wrong than one who invents falsehood against Allah, even as he is being summoned to Submission? And Allah guides not the disbelievers. Their intention is to extinguish Allah’s Light (by blowing) with their mouths: But Allah will complete His Light, even though the Unbelievers detest (it). It is He Who has sent His Messenger with Guidance and the Religion of Truth (Islam), that he may make it conquer all religion, even though the disbelievers hate (it).”
Qur’an 2:104 “To those who don’t submit there is a grievous punishment.”
Qur’an 3:4 “As a guidance to mankind, He sent down the criterion (to judge between right and wrong). Truly, for those who deny the proofs and signs of Allah, the torture will be severe; Allah is powerful, the Lord of Retribution.”
Qur’an 3:10 “As for those who deny [Islam], neither their wealth nor their children will help them in the least against Allah. They shall be faggots for the fire of Hell.”
Qur’an 3:11 “The punishment of Allah is severe. So tell the unbelieving infidels: ‘You will surely be vanquished, seized by Allah, and driven to Hell. How bad a preparation.’”
Qur’an 3:26 “You [Allah] exalt whom You please and debase and humiliate whom You will. Those who believe should not take unbelievers as their friends…guard yourselves from them.… Allah commands you to beware of Him.”
Qur’an 3:32 “Say: ‘Obey Allah and His Messenger;’ If they refuse, remember Allah does not like unbelieving infidels.”
Qur’an 3:55 “Allah said, ‘Jesus, I will take you and raise you to Myself and rid you of the infidels (who have forged the lie that you are My son).… Those who are infidels will surely receive severe torment both in this world and the next; and none will they have as a savior for them.”
Qur’an 3:61 “If anyone disputes with you about Jesus being divine, flee them and pray that Allah will curse them.”
Qur’an 3:62 “This is the true account, the true narrative, the true explanation: There is no Ilah (God) except Allah; and Allah—He is the Mighty. And if they turn away, then lo! Allah is aware of the corrupters, the mischief-makers. Say: ‘People of the Book, come to common terms as an agreement between us and you: That we all shall worship none but Allah.’”
Qur’an 3:84 “Say (Muhammad): ‘We believe in Allah and that which is revealed to us and that which was revealed unto Abraham and Ishmael and Isaac and Jacob and the tribes [of Israel], and in (the Books) given to Moses, Jesus, and the prophets, from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and unto Him we have surrendered, bowing our will (in Islam).’”
Qur’an 3:85 “If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (Surrender), never will it be accepted of him; and in the Hereafter He will be in the ranks of those who are losers.” Qur’an 3:87 “Of such, the reward is the curse of Allah, of His angels, and of all men, all together. Their penalty of doom will not be lightened.”
Qur’an 3:118 “Believers! Take not into your intimacy those outside your religion (pagans, Jews, and Christians). They will not fail to corrupt you. They only desire your ruin. Rank hatred has already appeared from their mouths. What their hearts conceal is far worse. When they are alone, they bite off the very tips of their fingers at you in their rage. Say unto them: ‘Perish in your rage.’”
Qur’an 3:141 “This is so that Allah may test the faithful and destroy the unbelieving infidels.” [Another translation:] “Allah’s object is to purge those that are true in Faith and blight the disbelievers. This is so that Allah may test the faithful and destroy the unbelieving infidels.”
Qur’an 3:150 “Soon We shall strike terror into the hearts of the Infidels, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority: their abode will be in the Fire!”
Qur’an 33:8 “He has prepared for the Unbelievers a grievous Penalty.”
Qur’an 33:58 “And those who annoy or malign Muslims bear (on themselves) a crime of calumny and a glaring sin.”
Qur’an 24:39 “For those who disbelieve, their deeds are like a mirage in the desert. There is no water for the thirsty. He only finds Allah, who will pay him his due in Hell.”
Qur’an 23:40 “Soon they will regret. Torment and an awful cry will overtake them. We have made such men rubbish, like rotting plants. So away with the people.”
Qur’an 24:57 “Never think that the unbelievers can escape in the land. Their abode is Fire!”
Qur’an 4:12 “Those who disobey Allah and His Messenger and transgress His limits will be admitted to a Fire, to abide therein: And they shall have a humiliating punishment.”

LET THEIR BOOK DO THE TALKING???

Part of the American Tribe
Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
GOD BLESS THE USA AND HER FIGHTING FORCES AND ALL WHO FIGHT WITH HER GIVE THEM STRENGTH,WISDOM AND COURAGE TO DEFEAT THE ISLAMIC TERRORIST AND ALL WHO SUPPORT THEM OPEN THE EYES OF THE WORLD TO THEIR THREAT AMEN

Posted by: Catherine at September 28, 2004 10:47 AM

We must cease associating Islam with violence ...

And if we don't ...? Is he threatening to saw our heads off?

Posted by: Hulegu Khan at September 28, 2004 10:59 AM

Ex-Muslims from Malaysia:

http://www.murtadd.org/

http://www.murtadd.org/forum/index.php

News from Malaysia:

http://www.apostatesofislam.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=661

http://malaysianews.net/

http://www.nst.com.my/

http://www.thestar.com.my/

http://www.malaysiakini.com/

http://www.bernama.com/

http://www.asiaobserver.com/Malaysia-news.htm

Posted by: Ali Dashti at September 28, 2004 11:02 AM

Hey Abdullah,

...as the Good Book says (the REAL one):

"You will know a tree by its fruit..."

'nuff said?

Posted by: Pelayo at September 28, 2004 11:04 AM

OK...

(sarcasm)

Posted by: hindu at September 28, 2004 11:08 AM

Hulegu Khan wrote:
"And if we don't ...? Is he threatening to saw our heads off?"

You beat me to the punchline. Of course, mine was that he would threatend jihad on us.

Posted by: Shadow of Locust at September 28, 2004 11:11 AM

Just a follow up....when does Allah permit Christians to declare jihad on Muslims? It seems to me Christians are oppressed more by Muslims than vice versa.

Posted by: Shadow of Locust at September 28, 2004 11:13 AM

"the increasing tendency to attribute linkages between international terrorism and Islam. "The time has arrived for us to debunk, once and for all, the theory that there is a clash of civilisations,"he told the 59th session of the United Nations General Assembly here on Monday.

There were two Japanese ambassador's in Washington trying to negotiate a treaty with the US when Pearl Harbor was attacked.

Apparently the same ploys are being used by this prime minister from Malaysia.

Mr. prime minister why is Islam writing these things on rockets?
During a military parade last week, Iran showed off its range of ballistic missiles draped in banners vowing to "crush America" and "wipe Israel off the map".

Iran is under Islamic rule. Is it not?

Posted by: Prophet2004 at September 28, 2004 11:20 AM

Wherever you go on this planet, Muslims are fighting. They are fighting Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, and even other Muslims. So what else should we link it to? I want to say peace, but that's far-fetched. They feel threatened. But they brought this upon themselves. They're going to self-destuct, it's just a matter of time. For them and the other 5 billion people, peace is their death.

Posted by: hindu at September 28, 2004 11:23 AM

when does Allah permit Christians to declare jihad on Muslims...

Isnt this like asking if the tooth fairy would like us to chew sugary gum....neither the tooth fairy or allah are real so it really doesnt matter what either of them would allow....

The only thing opressing muslims is islam.

Posted by: USAgirl at September 28, 2004 11:25 AM

Wherever you go on this planet, Muslims are fighting. They are fighting Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, and even other Muslims.

Samuel P. Huntington said it best:

The interactions between civilizations vary greatly in the extent to which they are likely to be characterized by violence. Economic competition clearly predominates between the American and European subcivilizations of the West and between both of them and Japan. On the Eurasian continent, however, the proliferation of ethnic conflict, epitomized at the extreme in "ethnic cleansing," has not been totally random. It has been most frequent and most violent between groups belonging to different civilizations. In Eurasia the great historic fault lines between civilizations are once more aflame. This is particularly true along the boundaries of the crescent-shaped Islamic bloc of nations from the bulge of Africa to central Asia. Violence also occurs between Muslims, on the one hand, and Orthodox Serbs in the Balkans, Jews in Israel, Hindus in India, Buddhists in Burma and Catholics in the Philippines. Islam has bloody borders.

Posted by: Hulegu Khan at September 28, 2004 11:35 AM

Test, having trouble signing in

Posted by: Carolyn2 at September 28, 2004 11:39 AM

mo did evil, spoke evil, justified evil, ordered evil.
mo "is" islam.

We, who speak the truth about mo, are the greatest danger that institutional islam faces - what if mo followers start to question their blind submission to the mo tyranny ?
We are thus seen, correctly, as the enemy of islam.

( I offer a new grammatical suggestion: that islam, mo and derivatives should not be capitalized, even at the beginning of a sentance ).

Posted by: dby at September 28, 2004 11:42 AM

sentence, sentence, sentence.

Posted by: dby at September 28, 2004 11:44 AM

Does Badawi expect the entire non-Muslim world to ignore everything that is now happening? Does he expect it to continue to ignore what is contained, and cannot be hidden, in Qur'an and hadith and sira? Does he really believe that there is no connection between the canonical texts, in a world where minds are raised on those texts -- raised so completely that every phrase, every conversation, every writing, alludes to, or is limited by, the texts of Islam? Where does he think Muslims acquire their dislike, or hatred, of Infidels? Out of the sky? What does he think explains the 1350 years of conquest, and then of subjugation through the institution we in the West now call dhimmitude, if not from the texts of Islam?

Can someone who continues to misinform, who wishes that the non-Muslim world will find everything under the sun to blame for Muslim behavior (and not only terrorism) and Muslim attitudes except Islam, ask us to trust him about anything? It is not enough not to be a terrorist. It is not nearly enough. Anyone who participates, willfully or out of ignorance, in further misleading the already self-deluded world of non-Muslims, is of course furthering the Jihad. And it is not terrorism alone, but the Jihad to spread Islam through all means, including Da'wa, that is the threat to the way of life, to the wellbeing, to the sanity, to the entire civilization, of non-Muslims. In refusing to tell the truth about Islam, in denying or ignoring its teachings, in further misleading us about Islam, Badawi works on behalf of Isla as a Jihadi, and should be understood, and treated as such -- warily, and with the mistrust he deserves.

Meanwhile, he and all those now engaged in making similar remarks, that look more ridiculous with each Beslan, each Bamiyan Buddha, each World Trade Center, each Ma'alot, each beheading, each kidnapping, might ask himself just how long he thinks Western companies are going to continue to put factories in Malaysia, when cheaper, better, and above all non-Muslim, sources of labor now are wide-open for business -- and what non-Muslm executives want any longer to risk their lives, or their livelihoods, in Muslim countries, or want to support those who do not wish them, or their Western customers (who may start boycotting goods made in Malaysia after the next act of mass terrorism), well.

And finally, he should ask himself what the "Bumiputra" system is all about, in its grotesque attempt to force entrepreneurial Chinese and Indians (the two secrets, along with natural resources, to the supposed economic success attributed to "Malaysia") to support Malay Muslims -- only because they are Muslims, and have some kind of divine right to economic support from non-Muslims. In what way does the "Bumiputra" system differ from the jizya?

Posted by: Hugh at September 28, 2004 11:47 AM

LET THEIR BOOK DO THE TALKING? AS WELL AS THE ACTS WE HAVE SEEN THAT MATCH THEIR BOOK??

Bukhari:V4B53N374 “The Prophet said, ‘I give to the Quraysh so that they will desire Islam, for they are nearer to their life of Ignorance and it is not strong in their hearts.’”

Qur’an 9:29 “Fight against those People of the Book [Christians and Jews] who do not follow what Allah and His Messenge acknowledge as the true religion (Islam), nor accept Our law, until they pay the Jizyah tribute tax in submission.”

Tabari VIII:122/Ishaq:515 “Abi Huqayq held the treasure of the Nadir. He was brought to Allah’s Messenger, and he questioned him. But Huqayq denied knowing where it was. So the Prophet questioned other Jews. One said, ‘I have seen Kinanah walk around a ruin.’ Muhammad had Kinanah brought to him and said, ‘Do you know that if we find it, I shall kill you.’ ‘Yes,’ Kinanah answered. The Prophet commanded that the ruin should be dug up. Some treasure was extracted. Then Muhammad asked Kinanah for the rest. He refused to surrender it; so Allah’s Messenger gave orders concerning him to Zubayr, saying, ‘Torture him until you root out and extract what he has. So Zubayr kindled a fire on Kinanah’s chest, twirling it with his firestick until Kinanah was near death. Then the Messenger gave him to Maslamah, who beheaded him.”

Tabari VIII:142 “Whoever prays our prayer and turns to our Qiblah is a Muslim. Incumbent on whoever refuses is the payment of the jizyah tax.”

Qur’an 9:57 “Some slander you, blaming you (of partiality) in the matter of (the distribution of) the offerings [stolen spoils]. If they are given part of these, they are pleased, but if not they are indignant and enraged!”

OIL FOR FOOD? FRENCH?

Tabari IX:128 “When the Prophet married Aisha she very young and not yet ready for consummation.”
Bukhari:V9B87N139-40 “Allah’s Apostle told Aisha, ‘You were shown to me twice in my dreams [a.k.a. sexual fantasies]. I beheld a man or angel carrying you in a silken cloth. He said to me, “She is yours, so uncover her.” And behold, it was you. I would then say to myself, “If this is from Allah, then it must happen.”’”
Tabari IX:131 “My mother came to me while I was being swung on a swing between two branches and got me down. My nurse wiped my face with some water and started leading me. When I was at the door she stopped so I could catch my breath. I was then brought in while the Messenger was sitting on a bed in our house. My mother made me sit on his lap. Then the men and women got up and left. The Prophet consummated his marriage with me in my house when I was nine years old.”

YES RAPE CHILDREN LIKE IN RUSSIA THIS IS WHAT THEIR LEADER TOLD THEM TO DO??

Tabari IX:137 “Allah granted Rayhanah of the [Jewish] Qurayza to His Messenger as booty [but only after she had been forced to watch him decapitate her father and brother, seen her mother hauled off to be raped, and her sisters sold into slavery].”

SUCH A NICE GUY?

Bukhari:V4B52N211 “I participated in a Ghazwa [raid] with the Prophet. I said, ‘Apostle, I am a bridegroom.’ He asked me whether I had married a virgin or matron. I answered, ‘A matron.’ He said, ‘Why not a virgin who would have played with you? Then you could have played with her.’ ‘Apostle! My father was martyred and I have some young sisters, so I felt it not proper that I should marry a young girl as young as them.’”

ONCE WAS SAID UNTILL THE ARABS LOVE THEIR CHILDREN MORE THAN THEY HATE THE JEWS THERE WILL BE NO PEACE? DO YOU THINK SHE MENT THIS KINK OF LOVE RAPE YOUR CHILDREN? REMEMBER THIS IS WHAT THEY BELIEVE AND WORSHIP THIS IS WHY THEY SUPPORT MBLA FROM SUPPORT FROM THE ACLU?

Bukhari:V4B52N143 “The Prophet told an Ansar, ‘Choose one of your slave boys to serve me in my expedition to Khaybar.’ So, he chose me, even though I was just nearing puberty. I served Muhammad when he stopped to rest. I heard him saying repeatedly, ‘Allah! I seek refuge with you from distress and sorrow, from helplessness and laziness, from miserliness and cowardice, from being heavily in debt and from being overcome by men.’”

YES THIS MEANS SEX WITH BOYS??

Qur’an 76:19 “And round them shall serve immortal boys of perpetual freshness, never altering in age. If you saw them, you would think they were scattered pearls.”

Qur’an 37:19 “They will say, ‘Woe to us! This is the Day of Doom.’ Assemble the wrong-doers and their wives and the things they worshipped besides Allah, then lead them to the fierce flaming fires of Hell.”

YES THE WANT US DEAD AND WILL USE NUKES IF THEY GET THEM?

Tabari VIII:130 “The Messenger said during his final illness, ‘Two religions cannot coexist in the Arabian Peninsula.’ Umar investigated the matter, then sent to the Jews, saying: ‘Allah has given permission for you to be expelled; for I have received word that the Prophet said that two religions cannot coexist in Arabia.”

SO YOU SEE DINIUS ROSS IS A FOOL!!

Ishaq:245 “Do you love Jews and their religion, you liver-hearted ass, and not Muhammad? Their religion will never march with ours…. Jews make false professions about Islam. So Allah sent down: ‘Satan wishes to lead them astray.”

NOW WHAT IS THIS ABOUT SATAN AND THE ROCKgod??

Qur’an 5:13 “But because of their breach of their covenant We cursed the Jews, and made their hearts grow hard. They change the words from their (right) places [the illiterate prophet pronounced] and forget and abandon a good part of the message that was sent them. Nor will you cease to find deceit in them. And because of their breaking their covenant We have cursed them. They altered words from their context and they neglected a portion of the message they were reminded of.”

COULD HE HAVE BEEN PISSED BECAUSE OF THE HOLDERS OF GODS WORDS IN THE 10 LAWS SAID HE COULD NOT HAVE SEX WITH CHILDREN? OR OTHER LAWS HE BROKE??LIEING AND ALL?

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PS
Itailian Women set FREE? WOW KING ADUBLLA CARRY'S WEIGHT WITH THE TERRORIST?

Posted by: Catherine at September 28, 2004 11:50 AM

dby:

For quite awhile now I have refused to capitalize any nouns associated with islam, except in a direct quote from an article or article's title, or when referring to a person's name.

No noun associated with islam is a "proper" one in any way. Nothing about the satanic cult deserves any measure of respect or dignity, especially from us.

Posted by: CGW at September 28, 2004 12:07 PM

What can you expect Badawi to say in a predominantly Muslim society? Him telling the truth is a one-way ticket to hell. If you were him, would you say otherwise?

To fight islam and the terrorism it inspires, we need the strongest secular nation, America, to start the ball rolling before the other secular nations can take their own domestic action against islam.

Otherwise, we will just create more domestic problems for ourselves and achieve nothing.

Posted by: callistos at September 28, 2004 12:23 PM

BTW, the Bumiputra System in Malaysia was not an invention of Badawi nor Mahathir, it came into existance when Malaysia gotten their independence from the British.

Posted by: callistos at September 28, 2004 12:30 PM

Abdullah must have missed the August 21 Hikmat al-Jihad grenade attack on
Bangladeshi opposition leader Sheikh Hasin. This is an excerpt from Maneeza Hossain's Op/Ed piece in yesterday's WSJ:

Islamists vs. Democracy
Wall Street Journal ^ | September 27, 2004 | MANEEZA HOSSAIN

...Bangladesh has a reputation for moderate Islam, for democracy, and for promoting the rights of women. Indeed, women lead both major political parties, the governing Bangladesh National Party of prime minister Khaleda Zia and the opposition Awami League. Mainstream parties accept that they can only assume power through elections. Bangladesh is home to the Grameen Bank, cited as a model of development for the way that it empowers poor women through small scale loans, or "micro-credit."

But the Islamist current, once marginal, appears to be growing. In 1998, when Osama bin Laden declared "Jihad Against Jews and Crusaders," few took notice that one of his co-signatories was Fazlur Rahman, "emir" of the Jihad Movement in Bangladesh. Nobody in Bangladesh seemed to know who he was. Indeed, the general feeling was that Bangladeshi Islamists, while sometimes noisy, lacked a constituency. Yet today, with the return of migrant workers from Saudi Arabia, they may have found one. The Saudi government has decided to reduce religious militancy among its own young men by pushing a "Saudi-ization" of the workplace, cutting back on foreign employees in favor of Saudis. Returning Bangladeshi workers are not only jobless, but have also been exposed to the intolerant Wahhabism that dominates Saudi Arabia.

The violence and Islamist assertiveness has shocked many Bangladeshis who have come to take their democracy for granted, and to assume that their compatriots could not possibly be misled by extremism. The danger now is that Bangladesh, a country the U.S. had long assumed would always be in the camp of the moderates, has been targeted for conquest by Islamists.

Posted by: Mike at September 28, 2004 12:34 PM

Islamists do not need the help of the western world to give them a bad name; they are doing a rather excellent job of that on their own without any help from us.

Posted by: abad at September 28, 2004 12:45 PM

Mike
You know what they say about [assum] will make an ass out of you and me!

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Posted by: Catherine at September 28, 2004 12:56 PM

Stop linking Islam with terrorism. And while we're at it, we'll stop linking:

green with grass, blue with sky, rubber with tires, bark with trees, concrete with sidewalks, dirt with trails, bullets with guns, ladders with roofs, rain with gutters, fish with oceans, bears with woods, frogs with ponds, keyboards with computers, Teresa Heinz Kerry's face with Catcher's mits, and toilet paper with making true, flushable little Islamic Jihadis.......

Posted by: DCWatson at September 28, 2004 1:34 PM

Malaysia Arrests Key Figure in Nuclear Trafficking
NewsMax.com Wires
Friday, May 28, 2004
KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia – A Sri Lankan businessman accused of brokering black market deals for nuclear technology was arrested Friday in Malaysia, government officials said.

pinch squezze!!!

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PS
Gary this is why you are having a memory?

PSS
Two big dimonds stold in France seams the guard walked away?

Posted by: Catherine at September 28, 2004 2:01 PM

Badawi is using the typical taqiyya and kitman strategy. Tell the West a lie often enough and it will be believed.

Does he imagine that we can't see what is going on and can't put two and two together? The pattern is too obvious to miss. Buddhists are not committing these atrocious acts and beheadings in the name of God are the acts of Muslims, not Christians or Jews as Chrisitans or Jews that would perform such acts in the name of God would be condemned. In fact any beheading by a Christian or Jew for any reason would draw condemnation. Yet Islam praises Muslims that behave so.

Badawi also assumes that Westerners have no interest in reading the Koran, suri, and ahadith, and thus couldn't possibly be aware of and understand the tenets of Islam that demand that from time-to-time violent jihad be made against the infidel. Those that have read and studied understand that he is prevaricating.

Posted by: epg at September 28, 2004 5:14 PM

CGW:

Neither do capitalise any noun associated with islam. In any sentence with reference to God, Jesus, Krishna, Buddha, will be capitalised as a token of respect to those who hold their faith to the above. As for allah, mohammed and all the rest of the murderous crew of gang rapists, brigands and child molesters, it would be most inappropriate to show any respect for them or those who believe in them. Hells bells, to show any kind of respect, even of the grammatical sort to muslim fiends, would be most inconsiderate to the hundreds of millions of people massacred by muslims through history, and to the relatives of those who have been beheaded recently.

In pursuit of this policy, I have taken to ADD such changes to my Word 2000.

Posted by: DP111 at September 28, 2004 6:09 PM

DC Watson,
Hows about :

Stop linking Hitler to WW2,

Stop linking Stalin to communism,

Stop linking peadophiles to child abuse,

Stop linking Posh Spice to David Beckham,

Stop linking Talkleft.com to gibbering liberal skunks.......

(I could go on all day).

Posted by: Rikki at September 29, 2004 7:28 AM