And the Bastard gets life in prison on Our nickel. KeithJoy, aren't you Proud of that? The Blind Sheik is socked away- but he was still able to send messages to his scum followers, thru the Leftist lawyer who worked for him. (and there is no 'if' about it, KeithJoy- she was Proud of doing it! Funny how we always hear an 'if it happened' when a leftist does it, but 'it Most Certainly happened' if someone infers that a 'conservative' did it).

I hope it is beginning to bother people that there are so Many muslim schools in the Washington area.

Posted by: Gary at October 3, 2004 7:50 AM

I hope that just one reporter realises that the biggest story of his/her life would be to attempt to interview leaders from every mosque in their city of residence. All they need to know is 3 or 4 well thought out questions that reveal where their goals reside, and what they see in the future for Islam in the U.S.

No violence, just darn good reporting.

Moose

Posted by: Moose at October 3, 2004 8:27 AM

Excellent suggestion, Mosse.

But that presumes big media is so inclined in the first place. Else what is obvious to us here at JW ought not be so difficult to infer from easily available public (and in some cases like child rapes and forced circumcision, pubic) evidence.

Yeah, I too am not enamoured to have this bastard soakup US oxygen any longer. Put these bastards in jail and nail them paedophiles and let the other inmates take care of him!

Posted by: voletti at October 3, 2004 8:39 AM

Gary -

It bothers ME that there are ANY musl!m schools ANYWHERE in the entire planet, let alone here in the USA.

I believe in our constitution, and the freedoms it protects.

Recent history reveals that the !slamic conspiracy is repleat with political/social tumult in Eurab!a and Canada.

"The American Constitution is being utilized and manipulated by Musl!ms to gain a foothold in AMERICAN society without actually making any attempts to respect AMERICAN citizens and culture."

"-!slam is a political ideology disguised as a religion. Politics drives the religious aspect of !slam, and religion drives the political aspect".

Identifying !slam as a political ideology should be basis enough to close all educational institutions that perpetuate the indoctrination of hate (anti-western values/antisemitism) upon innocent children.

As a political ideology, has !slam ever been challenged legally to determine that it deserved the US legal/monetary(tax) protections for religous entities?

As a political ideology, !slam SHOULD BE CONSIDERED a Criminal Conspiracy.

As regards to Ali Al-Timimi:

Once convicted of any terror related crime, the convicted felon's material possessions and property should be confiscated and sold with proceeds funding prosecution efforts. Citizenship & residency status should be revoked. All protections under our constitution must cease to benefit those convicted of terror related crimes preventing the manipulations and distorted application of our laws.

The US has declared war on terror ~ WE should fight this beast in every arena at our disposal!

Posted by: justamomof4 at October 3, 2004 8:51 AM

It seems that Mr. Al-Timimi has comitted perjury in his citizenship oath as he obviously has not give up his allegiance to "other powers and principalities." He should be stripped of his citizenship, if that hasn't already occured, and returned to his country of origin. If they won't take him back, throw him back in jail!

Posted by: epg at October 3, 2004 10:19 AM

Still don't understand why the US government has no trouble letting these muslim deathworshippers into the States yet British citizens are excluded from the green card lottery. I know of dozens of decent hard-working British men and women who have tried to live in the States and have been treated as common criminals and deported with no notice because their visas weren't somehow in order. But everyday I read here and on other sites how muslim "radicals" are settling in America with no hinderence, even becoming US citizens, although it's obvious that they hate America and everything it stands for. Bizarre isn't it that those who love America are treated like scum yet those who hate it are treated with kid gloves.

Posted by: Son Of Albion at October 3, 2004 10:27 AM

We need a new constitutional amendment,
No Islam or Moslems in America!
We would fight for these peoples right to practice and or believe what they want. Yet their goal is take away every freedom we have. ALL MOSLEMS want Sharia law it doesn’t matter if they are moderate or liberal.
Its damn ironic that its our freedom that lets the spew their garbage about us and against us.
We can make a case that their here to take over by force, very unconstitutional !

No Islam, Know Peace

Al Qaeda for Kerry!

Posted by: Bar at October 3, 2004 2:40 PM

The time has come for some measures to be adapted in the U.S.
I offer these suggestions.

1..An immediate moratorium on muslim immigration into the U.S.
2..Document and establish a finger print data base on every muslim immigrant currently in the country.
3..Place anti american task force observers in every muslim mosque in the country.
4..have anti american task force observers review all teaching materials / curriculum utilized in muslim schools.
5..Construction of mosques must comply with and conform to U.S architectural standards.
6..Abolish the wearing on any traditional Islamic / muslim apparel in public.
7..Immediately deport anyone failing to comply with provisions 2 through 7.

This I believe would be a good start.

Posted by: krkrjak at October 3, 2004 3:36 PM

Too many people like John Kerry just don't get it,9/11/01 may one day be looked back on as the begining of the end to modern decmocracy's
based on pre-9/11 standards.
Michael Moore is another one living in a fantasy world or peace and love,just wait until it's his plane that's hijacked,he'll be in a fetal position in the washroom praying for the Airforce and Army to save his lard-ass butt.
Since his FRNHT-911 made Arabs and Muslims appear as savages and bloodthirsty thugs,he'll be the first one on the flight to get beheaded.
Three years ago I put an effort to understand Islam and see why Muslims felt slighted by the actions of non-Muslims,whell it backfired,I have read far too many verses declaring that Muslims must slay the infidels for the glory of Allah and a Islamic World ruled under Shariah-Law.
The passive,filtered view of Islam in the West is a ruse to lull us to sleep while believing it's all about peace and tolerance. CAIR tries to speak for all Muslims in the USA,but when a idiot like this one praises the Shuttle deaths
as Allah's will for the enemy,Mr.Hooper scans his rolidex for the correct posting that Islam forbids this behaviour and no "True" Muslims would say this type of comment.
Oh,but Mr.Hooper,a Muslim did say it,and Muslims have been beheading innocent humans and Muslims slaughtered thousands on 9/11/01 and would have killed more if the 26,000 workers didn't flee the WTC after the first plane hit.

Mr.Hooper ,you only speak for a fraction of the some 0.0008 percent of the worlds Muslims that live in America,and since your petition against terrorism only netted so far less than
700,000 Muslims out of your professed 5 Million on your side,I'd say that YOUR version of Islam is wrong and the 99.9992 percent that you don't speak for have a different Quran with Peace and Tolerance based on killing any enemies and subjegating the rest.

NO ISLAM - KNOW PEACE

Posted by: ala-sux at October 3, 2004 4:04 PM

Oh yeah, another 'moderate Muslim!'Sure makes you wonder what a 'radical Muslim' would say and do...

Posted by: Morgane at October 3, 2004 4:20 PM

You have very good suggestions Krkrjak,however I remember making similar suggestions to a live talk-show and I was branded a "racist". This was after 9-11.

Posted by: Ummagumma at October 3, 2004 5:16 PM

justamomof4,

You said, "As a political ideology, has Islam ever been challenged legally to determine that it deserved the US legal/monetary(tax) protections for religous entities?"

This might be the way to start chipping away at the welcome to the enemy extended by our governments (Yes, Clinton included).

Do we have a lawyer here that could advise? I could research this, but a kegal opinion from an expert would be preferable.

Posted by: unicorns62000 at October 3, 2004 6:26 PM

Ummagumma...
Yes it's understandable that any one even thinking such a thought would be called a racist. That's one of the defenses they and the extreme radical left use to quell the voices of those of us attempting to sound the alarm. The radical extremest left wing of the democratic party,the MSM, and the academic intellectual elitist look down their noses at the "little people" and think we're all a bunch of inferior sub human specimens incapable of formulating a worthy thought.They think that they and only they are capable of knowing what's right for the "little people". Their attitude toward the president is such as it is because they consider him to be one of the "little people" and it's been grating on them ever since he was elected.That's why they're pulling out all the stops for Kerry. They really believe that EMPTY SUIT is one of their own.I'm not certain at this point how the election will go. I of course hope Bush will prevail as he understands the dangers we and the rest of the world face from this onslought by the Islamic radical movement which continues to gain momentum.And I don't see the EMPTY SUIT Kerry having the capacity to deal with it effectively as he is much too much the appeaser.It's going to be a sad day if he is victorious next month, but regardless of whoever wins the election, those of us who see the real and present danger need to continue to sound the alarm no matter what we're called.The battle has only just begun but in the end we will emerge the victors because ultimately the combined voices of the right cause will drown out those of the appeasers and apologists.

Posted by: krkrjak at October 3, 2004 9:32 PM

Posted by: Ummagumma
I was branded a "racist"

That is the classical left response. I think that’s their code word for your right.

Remind them next time that Moslem is not a race. :)

Posted by: Bar at October 3, 2004 11:10 PM

Yes, Bar, Moslem is not a race, to most people who think of race in the traditional sense - caucasoid, mongoloid, negroid, etc. But many in the left have conveniently redefined "race" to be just about any group of people, hence this includes Moslems as a "race" in their brand new world. I've had this sort of discussion in another forum, with a particularly self-righteous, loud-mouthed left wingnut claiming that criticizing Muslims was definitely racism because of his trendy definition of race. I believe he pointed out the definition on dictionary.com which lists:

"A group of people united or classified together on the basis of common history, nationality, or geographic distribution: the German race."

and

"Humans considered as a group."

A bit of a stretch, but they'll use anything to basically shut down free speech, because free speech to the PeeCee far left is speech only allowed and approved by them. Anything else is racism, bigotry, prejudice, etc., etc., etc. You just can't criticize their bum buddies, the people who would loyally and continually vote for their left wingnut parties, the people who share their same hatred of Christianity and the Joos, and who share their lust for thought & speech control and totalitarianism.

Posted by: feralee at October 4, 2004 3:22 AM