Um, what's the translation of "ibadah"? The only thing the word brings to my mind is something the character Latka Gravis used to say on Taxi.

Posted by: Robert Crawford at October 18, 2004 9:43 AM

Dear Robert,

"Ibadah" is an act of worship, obedience, and submission to Allah. So Mahathir is saying that if you're a Muslim, you must vote Kerry, and not to do so would be tantamount to an act of apostasy.

Cordially
Robert Spencer

Posted by: jihadwatch at October 18, 2004 9:49 AM

In the past four years, during the Presidency of George W. Bush, the Muslims and their countries have suffered oppression and humiliation as never before in the history of Islam.

Posted by: Hulegu Khan at October 18, 2004 12:22 PM

Oppression and Humiliation?

Now they know how we felt on 9/11/01.

American Muslims: What 1.8 million registered voters? Go ahead and vote for Kerry. I'd imagine I know why you'd rather have him and Gomer in the White House than Bush.

All the more reason to vote for "W"

Posted by: DCWatson at October 18, 2004 12:54 PM

Why do Muslims world wide feel that there is no action what-so-ever to be taken against terrorists? No reason to be held accountable. That actually going after terrorists is "oppressing and humiliating the Muslim people?"

Muslims always have an excuse for why innocent men, women and children are raped, enslaved or slaughtered, beheaded viciously for the Umah. There's always a justification. And it's not only very revealing but frightening how Muslims overwhelmingly support John Kerry.

George Bush fights back and says, we will hunt you down and you'll be brought to justice.(one way ticket to paradise)

John Kerry says, let's talk - tell us what we've done wrong to deserve this and how can we make it right."

Posted by: Kemaste at October 18, 2004 2:57 PM

Folks:

Here is another Muslim voice that does not speak in terms of Taqiyya but speaks confidently about the actions of Muhammad and does not seek to dissimulate his pure hatred of the polytheists and infidels. I particularly like this amazing candour:

"Sir, Why do the government clerics ignore the killing of the prisoners during the time of the Prophet? Six hundred to 700 prisoners were killed in the raid on the Qurayza tribe. Why do they conceal this? Why do they hide the fact that the Prophet gave the order to assassinate some poets – To assassinate! Not in military operations, but rather by individual assassination. Why did he order the assassination of K'ab Ibn Ashraf, the Jew, leader of Khaybar? And then he ordered the assassination of the leader who successive him. As a result, the Jews became fearful and terrified.

Read the full transcript at this address or below:

http://www.memritv.org/Transcript.asp?P1=292

Or watch the video:

http://www.memritv.org/#


10/17/2004 Clip No. 292

Egyptian Labor Party Leader: We Should Bomb LA; Killing Hostages is Permitted

The following are excerpts from an interview with Egyptian Labor Party head Magdi Ahmad Hussein:

Magdi Ahamd Hussein: The violence is currently directed at the occupation. This is legitimate violence. This is Jihad against occupiers. Ninety-nine percent of the violent operations target the foreign occupation of the Arab and Islamic nation. Therefore, they are not included in the conflict with the [Arab] rulers. From the strategic perspective, the vast majority of operations are proper. As for Taba, as I've said, the entire Egyptian nation demands that tourists be banned from entering Egypt. It is inconceivable that Egypt has become a resort for the Israeli army. The Israeli army kills in Palestine in the morning and then comes to relax and gamble in Taba. Abominations that are forbidden in Israel, such as gambling, are allowed in Egypt. But the main issue is that Egypt has become a resort for the Zionist army.

As for the hostages you spoke of, they are not hostages, sir, but prisoners. According to Islamic law, hostages can be redeemed, set free, or killed. When you are weak - you kill. The prisoners in Iraq, sir – 99% of the cases are proper, according to Islamic law. All those who were killed were agents and partners of the occupation. Seventy-five percent of the hostages were released in exchange for political gains. So how come some voices in the Islamic movement and official clerics tell us that killing prisoners is un-Islamic? No, both the Koran and the Prophet's biography permit the killing of prisoners. This exists in our Islamic law and in the laws of all nations.

Second, the war effort is not restricted to those who actually carry weapons. The war effort includes transporting supplies. Aren't supply lines part of military activity? The Haliburton Company and its efforts to steal the Iraqi oil – aren't they part of the war effort, whose goal is to steal Iraq's resources? The war effort isn't simply carrying weapons. An Iraqi interpreter working for an American soldier – isn't this part of the war effort? Undoubtedly, all those killed, as far as we know, were non-civilians.

We are witnessing a stroke of genius. Because they are weak and cannot defeat the occupation right away, they have used this weapon of prisoners - not "hostages." The Italian women were released and we demand the release of the French journalists. No one demands they be killed. But as for those who work for American companies and those who came to exploit Iraqi resources, they are part of the American plan and aren't innocent civilians.

Fifty years ago, even before the American army arrived in Iraq, Sheik Shaltout said, "Anyone working in the enemies' military camps and factories is one of them. He's an enemy and he may be killed." This is what Sheik Shaltout, the great imam and Sheik of Al-Azhar in the mid-20th century, said. Whoever allies himself with the infidels and polytheists becomes one of them.

The American casualties reach 47,000 dead and wounded, according to the American Veterans Association. 20% of the American forces were hurt, but the media only reports the Iraqi and Arab casualties. I've seen a film of the so-called "Monotheism and the Jihad," which is believed to be the organization of Abu Mus'ab Al-Zarqawi. In the film, I saw that they neutralized a bomb because an Iraqi woman passed by the tank. Out of concern for one Iraqi woman's life they neutralized a bomb and this appears in a film on the Internet and anyone can watch it. I'm not claiming that there are no mistakes. There are different opinions among the Iraqi resistance. But if you want to have an opinion, you should be with them, not us, sitting in air-conditioned rooms and telling them to do this that. The mujahid should be there, and the cleric should be there, like Ibn Taymiyya, who set out with the mujahideen to the front lines. But we want to issue fatwas telling them not to do this or that, not to attack so and so. It's like us telling Hamas: "don’t attack buses lest an Israeli child be killed." Do you have another means?

When the Americans bomb [in Iraq] they say they are looking for Abu Mus'ab and the casualties were killed by accident. The Americans have the right to kill civilians accidentally, while the Qassam rockets and the [suicide] martyrs should target only adults, men and women working in the Israeli army, and should tell the children to get off the bus. We are the weak ones. They make demands on us that don't exist in international law.

There must be reciprocity. If your city is being bombed… Those who bomb Falluja cannot prevent me from bombing Los Angeles. Why Falluja? Why do we always feel inferior to them? What is the meaning of this inferiority complex? If we had missiles we should have bombed Los Angeles or any other city until they stopped bombing Falluja, Samarra, and Ramadi.

Sir, Why do the government clerics ignore the killing of the prisoners during the time of the Prophet? Six hundred to 700 prisoners were killed in the raid on the Qurayza tribe. Why do they conceal this? Why do they hide the fact that the Prophet gave the order to assassinate some poets – To assassinate! Not in military operations, but rather by individual assassination. Why did he order the assassination of K'ab Ibn Ashraf, the Jew, leader of Khaybar? And then he ordered the assassination of the leader who successive him. As a result, the Jews became fearful and terrified.





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Posted by: Admiral Don Juan at October 18, 2004 3:05 PM

Another great article by Al Sina.

Why we should all vote for Bush and why the Islamist want Kerry in office.
www.faithfreedom.com

The Armageddon

By Ali Sina

In my previous article, Understanding the Muslim Mind, I spoke of the great danger that awaits us all. I talked about atomic bombs being detonated in various American and European cities in one day, killing and disabling millions of people and crippling the entire western world.

One reader was cynical. Sarcastically he wrote:

“I dunno, talking about Armageddon seems to detract from the point...but, if the terrorists get an atomic bomb -- what do you think the target would be? New York ? …The white house? "

I wonder why? Why should talking about Armageddon detract us from the point? Is that an outlandish idea? Have you any doubt that this is what the terrorists want? Do you doubt they may be able to get the bombs? What are the chances of them getting those bombs? North Korea is hungry and is desperate for money. Why do you think they developed the atomic bomb in the first place? No one is threatening them! So it isn’t really for self defense! They made them to sell them. It is just like any other product. The South Koreans sell Hyundai cars, the North Koreans can’t do that, but they can sell atomic bombs; something few people can or would.

Who do you think might be interested to buy them? Is it possible that the Islamic terrorists might be interested? Do you think they might not be able to afford it? Perhaps you think they would not do such thing because it's too cruel? They are not after all that bad! They would not want to hurt the children, would they? Or may be you think they would not do such thing because they might be afraid of retaliation?

Oh! Come on! Let us pull our heads out of the sand. Is the pill of reality too bitter to swallow?

Question: Which cities would be targeted?
ANSWER: All the port cities! Dozens of cargo ships will duck along the major ports in America and Europe and while President Kerry’s inspectors, line up those containers to be inspected, they will go off all at the same time. The whole cities will go up in smoke and hundreds of millions will incinerate or will be mutilated. Thanks to the radiations the land becomes inhabitable for a thousand years. On the same day, several cargo planes from "friendly" Islamic countries, including the Islamic Republic of Iran that thanks to the new president's "reaching out to Muslims" policies will have established relationships with America, will land on American soils carrying atomic bombs and they too will hit the cities inland.

This friend asks whether the White House would be targeted. The answer is no! The entire city of Washington will be targeted. The A-bomb does not just destroy a building. It destroys an entire city.

Am I a lunatic prophet of doom?

May be I am!

But why should anyone care about me? The point is that could you guarantee that what I say is impossible or even improbable? What are the chances of this happening? 1%, 0.1% or only 0.01%? Are you going to take that chance? No dear, the chance of this happening is very high. It is extremely high. If nothing is done and if the terrorists are not destroyed everywhere, this Armageddon will happen almost certainly! There is a will and there is a means. It is now just the matter of time. You give them time, like Senator Kerry who says “we will go after them if they attack us” and they will have all the time to get hold of their coveted bombs. They will hit you so hard that you can’t even rise to fight back. How you fight them anyway? Now that you are still whole, you can't eradicate them. How can you do that when a quarter of Americans are dead and your country and most of he western world is reduced to ashes?

Unlike what Sen. Kerry says, Al Qaida is not the issue at all. Al Qaida is just one terrorist group. There are tens or hundreds of terrorist groups and millions of Islamic terrorists, ready, willing and able to strike at anytime. They do not act under one command. Each one acts independently and in fact they vie with each other for the honor of killing the greatest number of infidels. The Iranian rulers would happily provide the terrorists with what they need. They ARE the terrorists and they will have their own atomic bombs very soon. It is pointless to fight Al Qaida, we have to fight Islamic Terrorism. It is a mistake to focus on just one Osama when there are millions more Osamas ready to take his place.

Islamic Terrorism must be fought multilaterally. All axes of evil are part of this terror network. This war will end only when all the elements of terror are destroyed and Iran is a major player.

This is not a time to blink. This is not a time to take our eyes off the ball. A lot is at stake. Our very existence is at stake. The future of mankind is at stake. Who knows; may be the old prophets of Israel were up to something. May be Nostradamus could see the future after all. Whether these guys were hallucinating or were really seeing something is not the point. The point is that we are in the threshold of an Armageddon. I am no prophet but I can see clearly where we are heading. It is just the matter of putting the pieces of the puzzle together and the picture emerges crystal clear.

This is plain and simple! You don’t have to be a political scientist to understand why CAIR (Council of American Islamic Relations), the pro Mullah Iranian Islamists, the Arab-American Muslims, the French, and every enemy of America down to Yaser Arafat supports Senator Kerry’s presidency.

I do not blame those Americans who have wool over their eyes and still think Islam is a religion of peace. But I can’t understand how anyone who knows Islam is a danger to the world could cast his or her vote along with the enemies of America.

Another reader of this site wrote saying that the fact that the Islamists and the Iranian terrorists are supporting Kerry does not mean Kerry is better for their cause. “I could argue” he said, “is smart to get the enemy to pay for their demise. We'll see.”

I am very familiar with this kind of reasoning. It is called denial. Remember, I debate with Muslims a lot. No my dear, the Islamists are not stupid. They know what they are doing and who is better for their cause. If you think otherwise then you are the gullible. And I am afraid by the time you open your eyes and see, it will be too late.

I have never been involved in American elections, never sided with any candidate; it is not my business to intervene in American politics. I am not an American. But this time there is so much at stake. The fate of all mankind is at stake. I can’t remain silent. I see the danger. I hear the Senator and his gang and what I hear scares me a lot. The Senator may have better internal policies for Americans, he may be able to reduce the cost of the medicine or allow stem cell research and even create more jobs (I sincerely doubt this one), but one thing is certain and that is this senator and everyone else in his camp have no clue how to fight the Islamic Terror. This is the real issue of the century, not jobs, not medicine and not the stem cell research.

There are things in life that are important and there are things that are most important. Wisdom means knowing the difference and if necessary sacrificing the important for the most important.

Today the most important cause is fighting the biggest threat humanity is facing. Islamic Terror should not be taken lightly. Islam is far more dangerous than Nazism and if it is not dealt with in time, it could be far more devastating too.

So let us do the first thing first. Choose a president that can fight Islamic Terrorism best. Vote Bush in the coming election.

Posted by: susan_b at October 18, 2004 3:35 PM

Found this over at Northeast Intelligence.

It's a map of the US, showing where all the terrorist groups are located.

Take a look at where they and who these groups are.
Some names were very suprising.

//standeyo.com/News_Files/NBC/Terrorist_cells.html

Posted by: susan_b at October 18, 2004 4:11 PM

Dear all,

I too would recomend not just muslims but all of you to cast your vote for Mr. John Kerry. He is a fine upstanding senator.

Mr. Bush has not been successful, he has taken your country into debt and no longer deserves his position.

A lot of women have become widows, and children fatherless. On top of that he has become the best recruitment officer of the insurgents for several decades.

So, please do your duty, ...vote Mr. J. Kerry into office.

Posted by: Naseem at October 18, 2004 4:58 PM

Naseem-
You're the reason I'm voting for Bush. He's in your face!

Posted by: D' Artist at October 18, 2004 5:25 PM

Naseem,

You posted:

Dear all,

I too would recomend not just muslims but all of you to cast your vote for Mr. John Kerry. He is a fine upstanding senator.

Mr. Bush has not been successful, he has taken your country into debt and no longer deserves his position.

A lot of women have become widows, and children fatherless. On top of that he has become the best recruitment officer of the insurgents for several decades.

So, please do your duty, ...vote Mr. J. Kerry into office.
Posted by: Naseem

I say to you, a vote for John Kerry is the same as committing National Suicide!!!

Of course you want Kerry in office, afterall, he is an Islamist apologist.

Posted by: susan_b at October 18, 2004 5:30 PM

What a conundrum

Malaysian Primer Minister says vote Kerry. Probably because he fully expects reactionary Americans to get alarmed and do the opposite. (Adroit use of Reverse Psychology, which Lenin called The Principle of Indirect Reversal: Oppose what you propose and propose what you oppose)

Meanwhile, again it seems that Osama is backing Bush

This is what Imad Khadduri,( a former Iraqi nuclear scientist with the Iraqi Atomic Energy Commission from 1968-1998. He is author of the book Iraq's Nuclear Mirage} said October 7th on Democracy Now

Six months ago, when there was the Spain Madrid train bombing and ten days later the Al Qaeda issued a statement on that, that was six months ago. They said, we will ask all operations to be halted in Spain, giving the Spanish people the chance to vote and perhaps withdraw, and they did. Now, the second part of that statement, declaration, was not published, was not widespread in the west. I did translate it and send it to the Toronto Star. It wasn't published there. What did it say? In it Osama Bin Laden was hoping, was saying to Bush "I really wish that you would win next November election, because you are the only one who can convince the Muslims of the -- of the -- with your -- with your intransigence and violent approach, it will convince the Muslims that American military postures and foreign policy is against their interests. Therefore I have asked all operations to be suspended from the United States until the election. And after that, every event will have its own discourse."[

SourceInterview with Imad Khadduri

Posted by: Giaour at October 18, 2004 6:47 PM

Robert:

You said: "Ibadah" is an act of worship, obedience, and submission to Allah. So Mahathir is saying that if you're a Muslim, you must vote Kerry, and not to do so would be tantamount to an act of apostasy."

Only problem with that statement is that Matahir is not a cleric, so he can't make such statements, and any statements he makes has no standing.

In fact it is irtidad (apostasy) for any Muslim to willy nilly issue fatwa's, and declare that the actions of others are irtidad and calling others takfir if they do or don't do as he wishes.

Tantamount to you speaking for the parish priest or a bishop.

You should know all of this, I'm sure that you have studied the Islamic ideology longer than I have.

The prohibition of Takfir
Takfir or the condemnation of a Muslim by another Muslim as a kafir is strictly prohibited in the Quran, the Hadith, and the writings of many eminent Muslim authorities.

Posted by: Giaour at October 18, 2004 7:00 PM

Raptors of a feather, vipers hatched from the same poisonous clutch..Mahathir, `Naseem', `Giaour', CAIR, OIC, and the best part of the 1.2 billion (and growing) vermin. Some of us, the unhappy few, know your game. Happily for your murderous, fascist, anti-life ilk the Dar ul Harb are very useful idiots; however you dont fool anyone with some degree of intelligence and most importantly, no vested interest in playing Dhimmi. I have lived amongst your fellow Mahound worshippers for years, I have read your inhuman creed in the original, so nothing was lost in translation or obscured by Dhimmi whitewash. Save the smoke and mirrors for half-wited prison inmates or greedy, vapid white women. Dont presume to lecture us few about the nuances re Takfir...Muslims have in every era declared others Kharij al din/ Islam and the ruling has gone uncontested. The founder of this accursed cult laid the foundation for every injustice his followers perpetrated, like a true psychopath he felt justified in undertaking the most odious acts, and had Allah condone these retrospectively. No, there is no room for human solace in Islam.. it's Hell on earth, never mind the Hereafter which according to the koran is a whorehouse open to the Momineen at all hours for ever and ever while the rest of us feed Allah's conflagration. One is only too painfully aware of the millions Islam has bribed, coerced and exterminated into submission..but to employ one of Dubya's phrases: you misunderestimate us few. Of course you want Bush at the helm of US Enterprise as fervently as the Nazis wanted Churchill in Number 10. Save your toxic propaganda for the BBC. NO PASARAN!

Posted by: Tammuz at October 18, 2004 8:36 PM

This sums it all up...

“You know Bush puts both feet on the floor in the morning, stands up, scratches his balls and say’s lets kill some f..king terrorist today” Dennis Miller

No Islam, Know Peace
Al Qaeda for Kerry!

Posted by: Bar at October 18, 2004 9:02 PM

An Open Memo to Mahathir:

Drop Dead.

If the you, the mosque leaders and governments of the so-called 'Islamic world' had wanted a peaceful world, they would not have conspired to attack the United States of America on 9-11-2001 and the numerous other times prior to that (such as in the year 1795). In sum, you and other muslims clearly didn't want peace with America as of 2001. There's absolutely no reason to believe you and other Muslims want peace now.

Islam is eternal warfare against the 'infidels', is it not? You asked for war-- well you got one, you son of a b-tc*.

I'm voting for BUSH.

PYTHAGORAS

P.S.-- COULD YOU GIVE US A BODY COUNT OF THOSE MURDERED BY ISLAM OVER THE PAST FOURTEEN CENTURIES? OR WOULD THAT BE BEYOND COUNTING?

Posted by: pythagoras at October 18, 2004 10:09 PM

Giaour,

Anyone who has been faithfully following this website is already familiar with this "endorsement" of George Bush by the terrorists in Spain. This was part of a long article posted some months ago with regards to "Eurabia."

The terrorist aren't stupid enough to endorse the candidate they really want. What you are looking at is a crude attempt at REVERSE PSYCHOLOGY. The terrorists know darn well that the Bush haters would flock this statement like flies to faeces.

Mr. Spencer didn't bother to point it out probably because the intention of the statement is glaringly transparent to anyone who thinks with their brain instead of their Bush-hating ideology.

Posted by: Rublev at October 18, 2004 10:48 PM

Everyone --- Don't misinterpret his words. Remember that for Islamists, "peace" means the absence of enemies. Thus Mahathir isn't asking for peace in the Western sense. He does want a "peaceful world," one in which Islam is triumphant and in charge, and non-Muslims are either subdued, or better still converted or dead!

Posted by: epg at October 18, 2004 11:15 PM

Mahatir's vote for bush letter will have the same effect as the London Guardian spamming of americans in Ohio to engourage the election of Kerry.
Both the intellectually arrogant parties have allowed their conceit to conceal the truth of their interference in American politics.
The re elction of Bush will be a big blow to islamic jihad terrorism but i believe will result in a safer America.
A clear vision of black and white is needed to defend oneself against Islamic terror and in this respect Kerry would be a disaster.
Seldom have i witnessed an election more crucial than this one, and hopefully we will see this reflected in a higher percentage of Americans that do not abstain from their duties on Nov2

Posted by: george at October 18, 2004 11:45 PM

Re Mahatir's blabbering's

I am an Australian and as such along with my fellow Australians was subjected to the almost weekly blatherings and insults by this little muslim grub during his term as leader of Malayasia.

He suffers from delusions of adequacy and was always ready to show Australian's what a donkey brained fool he was when given any opportunity to dribble a bib full of the incoherant ravings of some mystic Sociopathic charleton they call "allah".

With friends like these Senator Kerry sure does not need any enemies, for this muslim grub has surely delivered him the kiss of Death by endorsing him as islams candidate for President of the United States.

I have no sympathy for Senator Kerry for when you lie down with DOGS you will always get up with flea's. (and Grubs like Mahatir have more than their share of flea's)

Yours faithfully,
RSole.

Posted by: RSole at October 19, 2004 7:04 AM

I am in a difficult position, I´m in the most anti-american country in Europe Spain, without France, I know, and am pro-american and I want that Bush wins but my preference isn´t a blank check, I want that USA obligue to Saudi Arabia to stop donations to Hamas , I want that this country don´t build more mosques in the world and the wahabbism in USA was forbidden, I want that USA fought for a better freedom religion in the world and I want that Iran , Saudi Arabia and Pakistan changes a lot, I think that Bush can´t do this only but I know better that Kerry don´t want to do it and this is worse, greetings

Posted by: Franze at October 19, 2004 12:11 PM

Fifty years ago, even before the American army arrived in Iraq, Sheik Shaltout said, "Anyone working in the enemies' military camps and factories is one of them. He's an enemy and he may be killed." This is what Sheik Shaltout, the great imam and Sheik of Al-Azhar in the mid-20th century, said. Whoever allies himself with the infidels and polytheists becomes one of them.

Posted by: Admiral Don Juan at October 18, 2004 03:05 PM

THIS IS GREAT THIS MEANS THAT ALL THE MUSSIS WORKING IN ISRAEL ARE FIT TO KILL??

Part of the American Tribe
Squirrel Hunter
GOD BLESS THE USA AND HER FIGHTING FORCES AND ALL WHO FIGHT WITH HER GIVE THEM STRENGTH AND COURAGE TO STAY COURSE TO VICTORY TO DEFEAT THE ISLAMIC TERRORIST AND ALL WHO SUPPORT THEM OPEN THE EYES OF THE WORLD TO THEIR THREAT AMEN

Posted by: Catherine at October 20, 2004 12:36 AM