How can a banned group hold such a public banquet ? How come our intelligence services didn't know about it ? Wouldn't it have been worth a precision strike on this building ? A few hundred jihadists on their way to "paradise" - who could complain? Isn't it time to stop pussyfooting around this problem. If we are at war, let's fight fire with fire. All around the world islamic clerics and leaders are calling for our destruction, time for our leaders to repay the compliment.

Posted by: Son Of Albion at October 21, 2004 7:44 AM

"Reaching and understanding" with these turkeys is capitulation as they will take it as a sign of weakness. The State Department for some reason favors Muslims in the United States.

The State Department needs a clean sweep! Could it be that they are a Muslim Fifth Column or a group of dhimmis? A shocking thought but not strange as they have been rubbing elbows with some of the most capable propagandists the world has ever seen.

Posted by: epg at October 21, 2004 8:00 AM

All this never ending militant belching coming from fundamental Islam is as always, right in line with the Quran and Hadith. Islam divides the people of the world into two distinct realms or abodes: the abode of Islam, and the abode of war. The former have submitted to the will of allah,and the latter are still resisting.

Countries under Muslim control are considered the abode of Islam. It is the duty of all Muslims to preserve the Abode of Islam from contamination and,where possible, to enlarge it at the expense of the Abode of War, wherever the "infidel" rules.

Many Muslims believe that the nations of the west established Israel in the heart of the Arab World to be the outpost of their civilization, to be the sword of the west hanging over the necks of Muslims.

Therefore, militant Muslims are committed to Jihads to return Israels territory to Muslim control to preserve the abode of Islam in palestine. That is why this teaching of hate towards the Zionists and the Christians (infidels never ceases in the fundamental halls of the Mosques.

Posted by: Mackie at October 21, 2004 9:32 AM

I am afraid that the US is in a stooper, not asleep. When asleep you are not aware and can react when woken. In a stooper, you are aware and cannot do anything about it. Sadly, it will take alot more deaths for the US to gain the unity it needs. The deeds will have to be so egregious as it will be very painful for the ones already awake & aware (Thank you Mr. Spencer!). Apparently 9/11 was not enough. Why the US cannot foresee that it can become the next Isreal, Beslan, etc.. is beyond me. Liberty has to take a mighty blow before the citizens realize whats at stake. On 9/11, Lady Liberty was sucker punched, but did not fall to her knees. When the enemies of the state are categorically stated, only then will the masses arise with one voice. Pray for a quickening!

Posted by: HaiJaeger at October 21, 2004 2:02 PM

More info on Muslim Brotherhood and how they operate in the States:

Muslim Brotherhood in America
October 06, 2004

Muslim Brotherhood in America
The Muslim Brotherhood, which operates in America as the Muslim American Society, has a plan and a vision: remake American society and turn it into an Islamic nation, ruled by Islamic law and led by Muslims. No, these aren't the extremists and terrorists - these are mainstream, if conservative, Muslims in America.

According to the Sun Herald:

[T]he U.S. Brotherhood has had a significant and ongoing impact on Islam in America, helping establish mosques, Islamic schools, summer youth camps and prominent Muslim organizations. It is a major factor, Islamic scholars say, in why many Muslim institutions in the nation have become more conservative in recent decades. ... Indeed, because of its hard-line beliefs, the U.S. Brotherhood has been an increasingly divisive force within Islam in America, fueling the often bitter struggle between moderate and conservative Muslims.

Many Muslims believe that the Brotherhood is a noble international movement that supports the true teachings of Islam and unwaveringly defends Muslims who have come under attack around the world, from Chechens to Palestinians to Iraqis. But others view it as an extreme organization that breeds intolerance and militancy. "They have this idea that Muslims come first, not that humans come first," says Mustafa Saied, 32, a Floridian who left the U.S. Brotherhood in 1998.

Many moderate Muslims in America are uncomfortable with the views preached at Brotherhood-influenced mosques, scholars say. Those experts point to a 2001 study sponsored by four Muslim advocacy and religious groups that found that only a third of U.S. Muslims attend mosques. ... Documents show that the U.S. Brotherhood has been careful to obscure its beliefs from outsiders. One document tells leaders to be cautious when screening potential recruits. If the recruit asks whether the leader is a Brotherhood member, the leader should respond, "You may deduce the answer to that with your own intelligence."

Unfortunately, the Muslim Brotherhood isn't simply a problem for Muslims — it's also a problem for the rest of America as well because they seek to establish an Islamic state here. That would mean that all non-Muslims would become second class citizens, the separation of church and state would disappear, women would become politically and socially inferior, and most of Americans' cherished freedoms would be eliminated. A Saudi-style theocracy in America appears to be part of their dream, and everyone else's nightmare:

[T]he U.S. Brotherhood had a plan for achieving Islamic rule in America: It would convert Americans to Islam and elect like-minded Muslims to political office. "They're very smart. Everyone else is gullible," Saied says. "If the Brotherhood puts up somebody for an election, Muslims would vote for him not knowing he was with the Brotherhood." Saied says he left the group after several years because he disliked its anti-American sentiments and its support for violence in the Middle East.

Inamul Haq, professor of religion at Benedictine University in Lisle, Ill., says the U.S. Brotherhood pushed Islam in a conservative direction. "They were in a position to define American Islam. Since they were well-connected in the Middle East, they were able to bring money to build various institutions." Without the Brotherhood, he says, "We would have seen a more American Islam culture rather than a foreign community living in the United States."

Part of the Chicago chapter's Web site is devoted to teens. It includes reading materials that say Muslims have a duty to help form Islamic governments worldwide and should be prepared to take up arms to do so. One passage states: "Until the nations of the world have functionally Islamic governments, every individual who is careless or lazy in working for Islam is sinful." Another one says that Western secularism and materialism are evil and that Muslims should "pursue this evil force to its own lands" and "invade its Western heartland."

Even worse is the fact that the Muslim Brotherhood doesn't even represent the extremist side of Islam. After all, they are seeking to accomplish their goals through violence. Using the ballot box to institute a theocracy is, however, no better than using bullets. It's still just as dangerous, just as wrong, and just as deserving of condemnation.
//atheism.about.com/b/a/116700.htmn.

Posted by: susan_b at October 21, 2004 3:57 PM

The muslim brotherhood is almost certainly the real sponsor of al-Qaeda and most of the world's Islamic terror in its present form. Inasmuch as Hitler befriended Haj el-Husseini (a leading member of the Muslim Brotherhood, Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, and a notorious mass murderer to boot) before WW2 and helped prepare the holocaust with him, it must be realized that Hitler's plan to launch V2 rockets loaded with nuclear explosives against the Unted States was almost certainly an idea coming from the Muslim Brotherhood. It is therefore not unreasonable to suppose that the Muslim Brotherhood has been plotting to murder American people en masse since approximately its founding in 1928. This cannot be changed or undone. The United States must wage war on the Muslim Brothergood and destroy it in its entirety.

Posted by: pythagoras at October 21, 2004 8:47 PM

The Brotherhood (el-Ikhwan el-Muslimin), is THE UR-TERRORIST ORGANIZATION of the 20th Century. For this misnomered “War on Terror” (WWIV!) - which it's kicked off through its subsidiaries and franchises, such as el-Qaeda and its motley surrogates - it has concocted a “Grand Strategy”, for their regressive blood-cult to take over the globe. Collectively, they strive to do so IN STAGES, over generations, using a highly decentralized and super-clandestine structure - greatly akin to the rhyzomic Internet (and employing the ‘net heavily, for their dark purposes).

They bid to subject the USA, the West and its associates to “imperial over-extension”, to a cruel and unremitting, agonizing series of concerted campaigns of demographic, economic and para-military ATTRITION, while always pressing in on the peripheries - at any hint of weakness - and pulling off intermittent, dramatic terror-strikes to Western centres, whenever possible.

However, the Brethren's and el-Qaeda’s INITIAL arena remains the Arab & Moslem world (spreading into Africa). Though they’d be glad to gain control over any of the fifty-odd Islamic-majority lands on Earth, their top priority’s alighted on two places IN PARTICULAR: Saudi Arabia and Pakistan.

Ownership of the former would put the “Sheikh”’s malevolent hands on the BIGGEST oil-spigot on the planet, plus gargantuan sums of cash; of the latter, it’d give him nuclear warheads, the missiles to deliver them and the means to produce more of both. (Possession of either’s liable to secure the procurement of the other - with additional states in tow!)

Each of this pair is a stupendously problematic “ally” for America in the “War on Terror”. A hefty proportion of the populations of Pakistan and Saudi Arabia (like most of the inhabitants of the rest of the Arab & Moslem sphere, where membership of the Ikhwan is LARGE) idolize Osama as their contemporary “Robin Hood”, and they yearn for his prompt and ubiquitous imposition of the Shariat.

Democratizing this duo could, indeed, guarantee the direct elevation to Government there - via scrupulously “free & fair” elections - of Islamo-fascist/Jihadi “political” parties (many combined with militias) - unabashed abettors of Terrorism. - Finally, it’s NOT a risk worth taking!

In Pakistan, President General Musharaf, by declining to give up his military role recently, has reiterated his Kemalist, revolutionary aspirations (at least to the Western media); Saudi Arabia’s Royal House has shut down a handful of el-Qaeda’s cash-handling syndicates. Only WITHOUT DEMOCRACY can Mr Musharaf and the feudal Sauds hope to hang onto power. To show off their Indispensibility, they occasionally do the bidding of the US, versus the Terrorists. … Since something’s generally better than nothing, this is deemed a positive feature.

Despite those measures of constructive assistance which the Sauds and Pakistan DO sporadically eke out to Washington, there are several negatives wrapped up in the deal - not the least of which is the continued indoctrination of their youth, in sizeable numbers, in the Jihadi “philosophy” & “life-style”, cloning fresh generations of “holy warriors” - promising more strife into the future.

However, this isn’t a phenomenon that’s peculiar to Saudi Arabia or Pakistan - indeed, it’s ringingly echoed across the dar el-Islam. Definitely in the countries which el-Qaeda & the Brotherhood counts among its “second string”: Egypt, Algeria, Morocco, the Persian Gulfdoms, then Yemen, Afghanistan, Uzbekistan, Turkey, Nigeria & Indonesia, the Islamo-fascist barbarians are decidedly IN with a GOOD chance. - Letting them even get the slightest crack at power is ALREADY GOING TOO FAR.

Together with keeping the ongoing, Islamist conflicts grinding along - tactically - in Iraq, Chechnia, Afghanistan, Kashmir, Fergana, “Palestine”, et al, to bleed, madden and enfeeble America and its allies, indisputably, el-Qaeda and its proxies’ve got CONCRETE designs on the West - but they seek to absorb it just a bit later on, after seizing the Middle East, North Africa, Caucasia, Central, South and Southeast Asia - the home of the bulk of the Umma - first.

They conspire to acquire the West INCREMENTALLY, opening with Europe, Russia and Australia: making Japan, South and North America much easier targets - all before turning to tackle the hardest nut of the lot (decades from now), CHINA....

Posted by: HGII at October 21, 2004 9:33 PM

Keep talking Akef...say your prayers and may God have mercy on your soul.

Posted by: Deanr at October 22, 2004 6:06 AM

The Scuzlim Brotherhood should be rounded up like pigs in a sty, and prodded repeatedly with enhanced cattle prods, until their hearts pop like water-bombs.

Posted by: Borg Destroyer (AKA Rikki) at October 22, 2004 10:25 AM