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November 12, 2004

Tiny minority of extremists world map


From time to time people have asked me for a world map of all the countries in which jihadist activity or a jihadist presence has been reliably reported. This morning I had the bright idea to go to the World66 Travel Guide site, which invites you to fill in countries you've visited, and to use it instead to fill in (in red) all the countries where jihadists are operating today.

So here it is. I did it rather quickly, with a few searches of the Jihad Watch archives to verify that such activity had indeed been reported in various places. It's amazing that this supposedly discredited and marginalized twisting of Islam has spread around the world, isn't it?

Now: where did I miss? Here are the countries I included. If you are skeptical about any of them, search the Jihad Watch archives. You'll find stories from AP, Reuters, etc.: Canada, USA, Mexico, Argentina, Brazil, Paraguay, Algeria, Chad, Djibouti, Egypt, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Ivory Coast, Kenya, Liberia, Libya, Mali, Mauritania, Morocco, Nigeria, Somalia, South Africa, Sudan, Tanzania, Albania, Austria, Belgium, Bosnia, Bulgaria, Denmark, France, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, Norway, Russia, Spain, Sweden, the UK, Bahrain, Cyprus, Iran, Iraq, Israel, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Palestinian Authority, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Turkey, United Arab Emirates, Yemen, Afghanistan, Bangladesh, China, East Timor, India, Indonesia, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Malaysia, Pakistan, the Philippines, Tajikistan, Thailand, Uzbekistan, Australia.

UPDATE: After helpful input from many of you (thanks to all), I did some research this morning and added the following countries: Chile, Poland, New Zealand, Japan, Czech Republic, Tunisia, Hungary, Niger, Oman, Congo (Kinshasa), Uganda, Switzerland, Serbia-Montenegro, Ukraine, Georgia, Brunei, Myanmar, Ecuador, Uruguay.

The map is revised above.

This is still based on readily available and well-attested public information. Any other places I missed?

Posted by Robert at November 12, 2004 9:38 AM
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Oh but Mr Spencer, you can talk about "Muslim" fundamentalists all you want, but you are forgetting that the KKK and the Oklahoma bomber are "Christian"!

Let's see how big a landmass that would be... Oh yes, that would cover the whole of... wait... Oklahoma, and all of its nearest neighbours!!!

Posted by: AntiJihadist [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 12, 2004 10:05 AM

Early this morning on a Canadian news channel
two men in Vancouver were afforded the luxury
of a press conference,they were dressed as Arabs and had the palestinian flag hanging behind them
as they threatened the Canadian Government to stop all financial aid to Israel.
I was stunned that this public press conference
could have been the signal to Islamic sleeper cells once Arafat was dead.
It was bad enough a Muslim group flew our flag at half-mast as if Arafat was a Canadian hero,but they also have hijacked rememberance day by marking November 11th as the day of morning for Arafat. Since the Islamists attacked on 9/11 as punishment for supporting israel,it looks like the Jihadists in Canada are about to strike
again and sealing up the US border will be the only way to stop these psychopathic killers bent on murdering God's children for Allah.

Posted by: ala-sux [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 12, 2004 10:06 AM

According to this map, everything in red is jihad activity. I hope I'm wrong.

Can we produce a map with greater detail, e.g., state by state for the US and so forth for the every other country?

Occupied Europe out.

Posted by: Andrew [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 12, 2004 10:06 AM

Good play Robert :) ,this is why I tend to talk in planetary terms.in most of my posts I use the word Earth or planet almost excessively.

I deem it to be almost a nessesity that we find a way to get away from a fossil fuel driven "world" economy.

Let the imans and mullahs,the islamic "men in power loose all income from oil,and the secular world quietly switch to a hydrogen fuel cell planetary economy.i belive we have the ability to switch if the oil people can be made to profit from it then it would be worth it to them to help pay for the R&D to get the costs down.

Posted by: AvrageJoe [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 12, 2004 10:09 AM


antijihadists:

For the record Timothy McVeigh has now been linked to a Islamic terrorists group which he met while in Saudi Arabian,a book detailing the Court hearing and connections to the 'Third terrorists" is now on sale and you might want to educate yourself on the facts befor you spew your tripe
on how Islam has murdered less people than other faiths.

McVeigh wasn't caught yelling "Jesus is Great"
as he slaughtered people,unlike the Muslims that scream "Allah'a Akbar" as they slaughter God's children for Allah.


ISLAM MUST Gogh

Posted by: ala-sux [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 12, 2004 10:11 AM

Robert, don't be too sure about excluding New Zealand because recently there have been incidents of Jewish cemetaries being vandalised, more likely than not done to demoralize the enemies of Islam.

As for Poland I get the feeling that jihadists are leaving it alone because they know that the Poles are on the whole virulently anti-Semitic, so they leave them alone.

Posted by: Elephant [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 12, 2004 10:22 AM

Thanks for the map and list, Robert - this is most useful.

AntiJihadist:
Remember this about Timothy McVeigh and the Klan. McVeigh's act of terror was not carried out in the name of God or Christianity, nor was it carried out to kill some group of "unbelievers". He was a right-wing militia-type violently protesting the invasiveness of our federal government. As for the Klan, it was founded by a former slave dealer and Confederate general Nathan Bedford Forest, who created the KKK to terrorize blacks and prevent them from particpating in the political process following the Civil War - he believed that blacks should live the way Muslims believe dhimmi should live: servile and obedient 2nd class citizens. For all their claims to "Christianity" - which came in the years following the formation of the KKK - Klansmen cannot point to the Gospels and show where Jesus sanctioned their intolerance and violence, unlike jihadists, who can point to the Qur'an (Sura 9:5, et al).

Posted by: Mike [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 12, 2004 10:25 AM

I travelled extensively in Chile in the early 1970's and loved the country. I may have to return based upon Robert's map.

Posted by: johnb [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 12, 2004 10:27 AM

Oh but Mr Spencer, you can talk about "Muslim" fundamentalists all you want, but you are forgetting that the KKK and the Oklahoma bomber are "Christian"!

Let's see how big a landmass that would be... Oh yes, that would cover the whole of... wait... Oklahoma, and all of its nearest neighbours!!!
Posted by: AntiJihadist at November 12, 2004 10:05 AM

So I should be worried about a group of homegrown ignorant like skinheads/kkk/christens ...When instances of violent acts by these groups are few -far between and dealt with.

Ummmmm,....naw....nope ,I shall concern myself with the THOUSANDS of yearly PRETTY MUCH HOURLY messy indiscriminate (or too discriminate BESLAN)Mass homicides across the planet PERPETRATED by islam

Shut yer face please Anti-.....u have posted meaningless "transference"
(often used by mentally instable people)
You have contributed nothing useful to the discussion please come back soon with some real imput...

thanx drive safely

Posted by: AvrageJoe [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 12, 2004 10:31 AM

BTW, I can't help but be struck by the gray in central Europe. Could this have nything to do with their historical experiences with Islam and dhimmitude?
I wonder if we'll be coloring Japan red soon...

Posted by: Mike [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 12, 2004 10:32 AM

Interesting...... it appears that ,By
inference.. I have grouped Christens in with "ignorant kkk/skinheads. this was not done intentionally.

Posted by: AvrageJoe [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 12, 2004 10:34 AM

I think Antijihadist was being sarcastic, am I wrong?

Posted by: Carolyn2 [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 12, 2004 10:49 AM

In #1 I was referring to the argument commonly-used by leftists, that the KKK and the Oklahoma bomber are somehow analogous with Islamic extremism. To go along with that argument for just one moment, a "map" of these would show a couple of states in the American South... as opposed to the one made by Robert Spencer. Not that that IS an argument, but IF it was, then the "Christian" terror would, at most, be limited to a couple of federal US states...

Posted by: AntiJihadist [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 12, 2004 10:49 AM

It´s shoking but it´s true, greetings

Posted by: Franze [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 12, 2004 10:51 AM

Congratulations on the map! - very dramatic and persuasive evidence of what's happening globally.

I hope everyone will pass it on to friends and contacts and politicians etc. This really deserves maximum exposure.

AntiJihadist -

Good point - but maybe you better start using sarcasm on/off! ;)

Posted by: Benelux [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 12, 2004 10:51 AM

Point well made.

Posted by: Mike [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 12, 2004 10:53 AM

Mike,

"BTW, I can't help but be struck by the gray in central Europe."

I think this is more to do with the relative poverty of the region than any other factor... most Muslims in Western Europe are, at the end of the day, economic migrants.

But in Poland, where I originate from, a Muslim lecturer was kicked out of the country in May after they found he was preaching Jihad.

In the Czech Republic they planned for many years to build a Mosque for wealthy Arabs so that they could holiday there (apparently "to get away from the heat" LOL). There was massive local opposition to this, and planning permission was delayed (on "administrative grounds") I think to this day.

One must remember that Poland, for five centuries, has been home to the Tatar tribe, which is Muslim. Their ancestors fought with King Jan Sobieski against the Turks at the Battle of Vienna in 1683 (where the King was said to have "saved" Christianity in Europe), and they were allowed to settle in the Polish Commonwealth as a reward. Since then traditionally they had their own units in the Polish Uhlans/Cavalry. In WW2 many of the famous "horses against tanks" charges involved these units.

After WW2, when the Soviet Union annexed Eastern Poland (to which the West turned a blind eye), their territories fell under the control of Belarus (hence the first name of that country's main boxer at the Athens Olympics being "Magomed").

Today, at most, they number about 50,000, mostly around Bialystok in Eastern Poland. Their main leader is Imam Selim Chazbijewicz, who admits there are many is a problem of fanaticism and Jihadism within Islam and who won't have "nothing to do with" any of the converts or fanatics in the Middle East, and who has VISITED ISRAEL!!! These people recognise Israel's right to exist...

Posted by: AntiJihadist [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 12, 2004 11:25 AM

Nice job Robert.

A year ago during an internet debate my opponent belittled the magnitude of the global jihad. I responded by compiling a list of countries under travel advisories compiled by the CIA (easily available on the internet). The list was not as big as your map, but it showed clearly that the lion's share of world terrorism is Islam-related and that even some non-Middle East countries where Muslims are the minority (like Thailand and the Philippines) are suffering from chronic Islamofascist terrorism.

Posted by: Rublev [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 12, 2004 12:04 PM

Tiny minority of countries? I think not! It is time for an updated perspective for political correctness as it relates to Islamic fundamentalism. It's time for gathering realistic and accurate data on what the real percentage is of belivers of Islam that embrace the precepts of Islamic Jihad. It appears that our leader's view of Islam is political correctness "run amuck

Posted by: Hyscience [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 12, 2004 12:16 PM

A rather neat map, and I plan to post the link to it everywhere I can. I can't believe some of the people I talk to think we shouldn't be messing with islamic culture... when it is the Other Way Around!

Just a note: I don't see 'Jesusland' anywhere on there:

http://www.kenlayne.com/2004/11/im-not-just-extremist-i-am-real.html

That's from one of kj's happy crowd. btw, kj! You were gone so long I was beginning to believe what I thought about you: that you were a kerry troll, who dried up after losing the election to the Right Guy!

Posted by: Gary [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 12, 2004 12:18 PM

AntiJihadist:
I must admit I didn't factor economics into the equation. BTW, thanks for your insights on Poland - quite fascinating.

Posted by: Mike [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 12, 2004 12:19 PM

That's a very dramatic visual, and I'm really stunned to see it laid out so clearly.

Mr. Spencer, would it be possible to keep this map as a permanent part of the homepage of JW? I'd like to be able to use it as a resource on other forums on the Net. Thank you for posting it - well done!

Posted by: libbysmom [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 12, 2004 12:24 PM

Excellent map, Robert. However, I believe you missed Tunisia. Al Qaeda claimed responsibility for a bomb attack at a synagogue in al Ghibra in 2002 which killed 19 people.

Posted by: Kenneth [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 12, 2004 12:51 PM

In Budapest, at least in 2001, large numbers of Arabs were to be found, even holding conferences. No doubt their interest was further piqued by certain aspects of Budapest night-life.

In Chile, large numbers of "Palestian" Arabs, some of the islamochristian variety (for whom identification with Muslim Arabs and hence with Islam, or an ingrained dhimmi servility toward Muslims and Islam, have managed to find niches in certain trades, including companies involved in the large-scale export of Chilean (summer) fruit to American (winter) consumers. This bears looking into.

In Niger, Muslims, along with Muslims from Burkina Faso and other circumjacent countries, have been islamizing the north of the formerly mostly Christian Cote d'Ivoire, simply by moving in, refusing to leave, and now demanding citizenshhip. (This is what that seemingly confused conflict is all about, and one observes, perhaps no longer with surprise, French colonialism working hand-in-non-velvet-glove with Muslim imperialism against the interests of black African Christians -- as happened with the British and the northern Muslims in Nigeria, collaborating in the suppression of the Christian Ibo during the Biafra War of 1967-1969. The State Department, in any case, apparently believes that there are Islamic terrorists in Niger -- and a student in France, who recently went back there after having been away for five years, reports that the country's mosques and general atmosphere have changed noticeably -- that the easygoing West African syncretism is gone, and something "purer" and hence much more dangerous, and Saudi-financed, has taken its place.

So, on that map Hungary, Chile, and Niger must all be filled in as well. Hmmm -- what's left?

Posted by: Hugh [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 12, 2004 1:07 PM

Bosnia? Kosovo?

Posted by: Dean Douthat [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 12, 2004 1:16 PM

Well, well. What do the Omanites know that we don't?

Posted by: Melnorme [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 12, 2004 1:27 PM

You might want to include Portugal. During the Euro we had a nation-wide search for 3 British Muslims with known terrorist connections who were found filming an undergroung shopping centre parking lot.

Maybe they were artists studying the architecture of our beautiful underground parking lots. Sarcasm off.

Posted by: alex221166 [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 12, 2004 1:32 PM

Ummm....

It's a little hard to tell from the map, but it looks like you've left out Uganda. Add a little more red.

Posted by: Adam Wood [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 12, 2004 1:40 PM

Mike,

The subject prompted me to do some googling, with some worrying results...

A Polish "convert" to Islam called Abu Anas Mubarak ibn Marian Baranowicz (funny how they immediately take up all these weird Arab names when they live in Europe) has set up an interesting website:

http://www.planetaislam.com

The website is in Polish, with a limited section in English, but at the bottom of the Polish homepage there are two questions, translated as:

"Sayyed Qutb: Great learned or misled writer?"

And, more significantly,

"When will the Caliphate be returned?"

And a column next to it says "Terrorism, Jihad, Palestine"

A deeper insight into the website will reveal the usual Taqiyya disinformationist claptrap about Islam being the "only religion to guarantee women's rights" (tell that to Hirsi Ali) etc etc...

It seems somehow the Jihadists have wormed their way into Poland, maybe Robert Spencer can now add it to the list of "tiny" minorities where Jihadists have their presence...

Posted by: AntiJihadist [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 12, 2004 1:42 PM

Elephant, I've seen others do what you do and it's starting to really get on my nerves: this is not in the first place a conflict between muslims and Jews. You're reinforcing muslim retoric! This is a conflict between muslims and the rest of the world. Not only Jews suffer from muslim terrorism, but Christians, Hindus, African animists, atheists etc. as well.

The Poles may be antisemites. I don't even want to get into that discussion. The fact is they are one of the staunchest allies in the war on terror. Give them some credit!

Damn...

Posted by: Peter Verkooijen [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 12, 2004 1:44 PM

Great idea! There is other mapping sofware that you could be used to generate a map that illustrates the number of attacks as a function of Muslim population. It seems as though there must be some "critical density" of Muslim population, above which one would expect local terrorism to occur. Wouldn't THAT be a politically incorrect map?!

Posted by: Honest Abe [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 12, 2004 1:47 PM

As for "tiny" minorities, an even more interesting study would be how "tiny" the minority of Jihadists among converts to Islam is...

The only ones I've heard of have either set up fundamentalist websites, tried to blow up aircraft with dynamite hidden in their shoes, campaigned to have crosses removed from schools in Italy, or called for the death of Salman Rushdie.

How many see the "Peace" in the "Religion of Peace"???

Posted by: AntiJihadist [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 12, 2004 1:55 PM

ala-sux

you wrote:
Since the Islamists attacked on 9/11 as punishment for supporting israel

This is bologna. 9/11 had very little to do with Israel. Bin Laden, like most Arabs, couldn't care less about the "Palestinians." Check this article from Islam-online where Arafat actually accuses Bin Laden of lately exploiting the "Palestinian Cause" for his own benefit.

http://www.islam-online.net/english/news/2002-12/15/article03.shtml

Here is a link to an excellent overview of Bin Laden and his *real* agenda.

http://www.ict.org.il/articles/articledet.cfm?articleid=53

Posted by: MrsEener [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 12, 2004 2:02 PM

And don't forget Switzerland, even regardless of all the jihad-money that goes through Swiss banks. And Serbia-Montenegro should also appear on that map ...

Posted by: Schulz [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 12, 2004 2:12 PM

so you're just sticking your head in the sand with respect to greenland? thought you were cooler than that.

Posted by: Afrafaste [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 12, 2004 2:22 PM

Anti-Jihad

HAA...,I should say rather "baaa" for it is sheepish I feel.
Here I sit,....

(a half-day o work & several cups o joe later)

And find I shall henceforth need to wake up a bit before I post knee-jerk reactionary babble,
thanx for your valuable input :)

apologies for the shut yer face bit. literal being that I am,sarcasm is often lost upon me .

Posted by: AvrageJoe [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 12, 2004 2:23 PM

If Timothy McVeigh was an Islamic terrorist, he would have stayed in the truck!

But he didn’t so he is just an ordinary criminal, with an extraordinary hatred for the US government. Non-Christians will always lump Mr McVeigh in with right-wing Christians because it fits there agenda, which is proof that they themselves don’t know the Bible.
Matter of fact there are many scriptures that say Mr McVeigh and the KKK are in fact not Christian. But just terrorist.

The same cannot be said about Mohammadanism!
There goal that they have stated many times is for the world to become backward and unintelligent just like them and there homosexual pedophile prophet Mohammad.
Whether moderate or extreme Moslems protect Moslems no matter how idiotic it becomes. No Moslems wants any other Moslem to “look bad” or to bring disgrace on them or Islam. So Moslems play an idiotic game with their Allah and the world and the world seems happy to play the dhimmi.

The death of the west comes with the death of Christianity and a complete loss of values.
What I cant understand is why the world has turned a blind eye to their idiotic madness.
Maybe because the west has become so secular? We no longer can stand for Christian values or the ACLU my take you to court for imposing your will on them.
We have become a Country of minority rules over the majority. I believe that our news media has played a very big hand in this. The minority sits on their bum in front of the TV and believes they are the majority. Guys like Bill Maher don’t help, with his crap that 58 million Americans have hijacked America. I am not sure where he learned to do math, but last time I checked 58 million was greater than 54 million. The truth is this Country has been hijacked by the wacko minority.

No Mohammadanism, Know Peace

Posted by: Bar [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 12, 2004 2:24 PM

You should include New Zealand on that list. This article from October 17, 2004 in a New Zealand newspaper shows the Muslim extremists are recruiting Maoris in prison for their cause. A quick web search should show just how much anti-Jewish sentiment is growing in NZ.

http://www.ec.com.my/webproxy/nph-proxy.pl/110010A

Posted by: armytramp [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 12, 2004 2:26 PM

AvrageJoe,

No worries. In retrospect #1 could read as if written by an American pro-Muslim/leftie/Democrat. Maybe I should have been a bit clearer...

Posted by: AntiJihadist [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 12, 2004 2:39 PM

The grey areas would be fewer if jihadist threats were included - thinking about the recent threats to US and Norwegian embassies in the Baltic countries. In Finland, the existence of local terrorist cells has been reported, but not confirmed.

And in the Caucasus, Armenia and Georgia are Christian countries that have resisted jihadists for 1400 years, but there have been conflicts between Armenians and the Azerbaijani Muslims; and in Georgia, there are the Muslim Abkhasian "freedom fighters" who have driven 250 000 Georgians out of their province. So even though there may be no international news reports on terrorist actions, those areas can hardly be seen as free from jihad...

Posted by: Scandie [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 12, 2004 3:19 PM

I would certainly include Georgia in the map. The Pankisi gorge region is frequently cited as a staging area of Chechen jihadist activity. Also, the Georgian government has practically no control over Abkhazia and Ajaria autonomous regions - two regions populated by muslim minorities in predominantly Christian Georgia (historically credited as the first nation to adopt Christianity).

The sultanate of Brunei could also qualify as having a jihadist presence. It has a totalitarian islamic state (ala Saudi) that is a perfect breeding ground for jihad ideology.

Who knows, even utopian Switzerland could qualify as having a jihadist presence – in the form of cash funds bankrolling operations throughout the world.

Posted by: Belisarius [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 12, 2004 3:28 PM


MrsEerner:


I said "Supporting Israel" which is far from your inference of Palestine being at the root of the attack. I have heard too many Arabs and Muslims in Canada declare that the US deserved ti for supporting Israel,remember it was the Muslims that denied any connection to Islam and then when all the hijackers were found to be Muslims and 15 of them from Saudi Arabia,they then claimed Bin ladin had nothing to do with it.

The problem with people on the left is that
they love to rewrite history to fit their new version of reality,John Kerry was the perfect example by his flip-flopping on issues. You forgot
the claims by Islamists that Muslims were being oppressed by Israel and the Hamas has declared
war on the JEWS,although they like to use the term
Israelis which is really the new code-word to hide
their hatred.

Posted by: ala-sux [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 12, 2004 3:30 PM

ala-sux

you said

Since the Islamists attacked on 9/11 as punishment for supporting israel

We know that Bin Laden was behind those attacks, and the US support for Israel is not at the top of his list of grievances against the US. Therefore, the Islamists did not attack on 9/11 as punishment for supporting Israel.

Posted by: MrsEener [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 12, 2004 3:54 PM

Someone asked for a map of the U.S. and what groups are here, go to:

//standeyo.com/News_Files/NBC/Terrorist_cells.html

And it will show you state by state what groups are active.

There are also maps that show potiential nuclear targets, fresh water supplies, transit, oil refineraries, labs.

Posted by: susan_b [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 12, 2004 4:13 PM

This map tells us one important thing, fascism is now wrapped up in a headscarf. Islamo-fascism is the real enemy, not terrorism. Terrorism is a means of warfare that will always be available. The real root is the spread of Islamic law that instills in the uneducated people of tribal lands that freedom is a terrible thing. Any questions as to what exactly i am talking about, look up Victor Davis Hanson.

Posted by: benbosanac [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 12, 2004 4:38 PM

The Muslim community in America is a "tiny minority". Yet out of it come so many different terrorist groups. What do you call them? A "tiny minority of a tiny minority"???

Posted by: AntiJihadist [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 12, 2004 4:38 PM

i have many friends in Romania ,,and there is only a 1% muslim population there ,,
any one know any different ,,i am going there in 2 weeks

thanks mark

Posted by: mark7762 [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 12, 2004 5:40 PM

...Lets just hope that the Islamic community in these United States STAYS a tiny minority !!

God, I love this site...

Posted by: NYProud [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 12, 2004 5:54 PM

Tiny Minority - Don't get over confident. Examples: Castro conquered Cuba with a small number of guerillas, Pizarro and Cortes conquered the Incas and Azrtecs with a small number of conquistadores, the 300 held out against the Persians in Ancient Greece, and 300 IRA held the British army off for 25 years, and, last, but not least, Mohammed left with 50 men and returned to slaughter and conquer tribes and civilizations.

A small number of the determined can have a huge effect. We must be more determined if we're going to survive.

Posted by: epg [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 12, 2004 6:04 PM

'We know that Bin Laden was behind those attacks, and the US support for Israel is not at the top of his list of grievances against the US. Therefore, the Islamists did not attack on 9/11 as punishment for supporting Israel'
Posted by: MrsEener

From Osama Bin Laden latest live from my cave tape.
"I say to you, as Allah is my witness: We had not considered attacking the towers, but things reached the breaking point when we witnessed the iniquity and tyranny of the American-Israeli coalition against our people in Palestine and Lebanon – then I got this idea.

"The events that had a direct influence on me occurred in 1982, and the subsequent events, when the U.S. permitted the Israelis to invade Lebanon with the aid of the American sixth fleet.

From : http://www.memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Page=subjects&Area=jihad&ID=SP81104

So MrsEener in light of this new evidence what do you think now?

No Mohammadanism, Know Peace

Posted by: Bar [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 12, 2004 7:08 PM

The "Timothy McVeigh" and the typical Islamic apologist's "they do it too" attitude is EASY to refute.

Western, and might I add, Christian society POLICES itself. Christians investigate, pursue and prosecute those breaking the law in Western society irregardless of whether the individual was a true Christian or not. Islamic countries not only do NOT investigate, pursue and prosecute radical Islamists, but rather turn and look the other way FOR THE MOST PART.

A tiny minority? "Adherents of militant Islam account for some 15-20 percent of the Muslim world, according to Daniel Pipes, an expert on the subject. This means that more than 150 million people are part of the problem. To make matters worse, they hide among the moderates. They don't wear uniforms and rarely identify themselves." http://www.meforum.org/article/168

Posted by: Report [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 12, 2004 9:14 PM

Great idea,and very frightening map,indeed.
Only one objection:please change the color,from red to black;the idiotic leftist will start compare it to the red colored,republican dominated american map.
Black being the symbor for death,is a much more apropriate color.

Posted by: adela [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 12, 2004 11:52 PM

From the Site Institute:

Zarqawi releases new audio message;

Zarqawi Sends An Audio Message Commenting On The Current Events

November 12, 2004


Thanks to God, Glorifier of Islam with His support, and Defeater of the Polytheists with His power, by Whose command all things are accomplished, Enticer of the Infidels with His cunning, the One Who made the days alternate with His justice. Prayer and peace upon the one through whose sword God raised the light of Islam, and when the Believers saw the parties [Al-Ahzab], they said: "This is what God and His Prophet had promised us".

And God and His prophets spoke the truth. This increased their faith [the Believers’ faith] and submission.

From Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi, to my Beloved Ummah]:

The banner of the Jihad has been raised and is waving. The arms of the heroes of Islam have grown stronger in Iraq, and the hearts of the people of Islam are pounding with joy, and awaiting a growing hope, dawn of which will soon dissipate the darkness of humiliation, that has lain on the Nation’s chest for a long time, at the hands of the Jews, the Crusaders, and their tails--our apostate rulers.

America and whoever stands with it have realized this truth, for the Earth has trembled under their feet, and they are now feeling the winds of the Jihad shaking their thrones and their buildings. They called upon each other, gathered their forces, and unified in facing the enemy coming towards them-- it is the pure Islam under the true banner of the Jihad.

And then for those of you that want a little more background info on actice groups:

Background on Terrorist Groups
Patterns of Global Terrorism -2003
Released by the Office of the Coordinator for Counterterrorism
April 29, 2004

Background Information on Designated Foreign Terrorist Organizations

CONTENTS

* Abu Nidal Organization (ANO)
* Abu Sayyaf Group (ASG)
* Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade
* Ansar al-Islam (AI)
* Armed Islamic Group (GIA)
* 'Asbat al-Ansar
* Aum Supreme Truth (Aum) Aum Shinrikyo, Aleph
* Basque Fatherland and Liberty (ETA)
* Communist Party of Philippines/New People's Army (CPP/NPA)
* Al-Gama'a al-Islamiyya (Islamic Group, IG)
* HAMAS (Islamic Resistance Movement)
* Harakat ul Mujahidin (HUM)
* Hizballah (Party of God)
* Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan (IMU)
* Jaish-e-Mohammed (JEM)
* Jemaah Islamiya (JI)
* Al-Jihad (Egyptian Islamic Jihad, EIJ)
* Kahane Chai (Kach)
* Kongra-Gel (KGK, formerly Kurdistan Workers' Party, PKK, KADEK)
* Lashkar-e-Tayyiba (LT)
* Lashkar I Jhangvi (LJ)
* Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE)
* Mujahedin-e Khalq Organization (MEK or MKO)
* National Liberation Army (ELN)—Colombia
* Palestine Islamic Jihad (PIJ)
* Palestine Liberation Front (PLF)
* Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP)
* Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine–General Command (PFLP-GC)
* Al-Qaida
* Real IRA (RIRA)
* Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC)
* Revolutionary Nuclei (RN)
* Revolutionary Organization 17 November (17 November)
* Revolutionary People's Liberation Party/Front (DHKP/C) 135
* Salafi st Group for Call and Combat (GSPC)
* Sendero Luminoso (Shining Path or SL)
* United Self-Defense Forces/Group of Colombia (AUC)
* Hamas military wing, Izza Deen al-Qassam
* Jana'at al-Tawhid wa'al Jihad
* Jama'at al-Tawhid wa'al-Jihad

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Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade http://www.kataebaqsa1.com/ September 8, 2004
HAMAS (Islamic Resistance Movement) http://www.palestine-info.info September 8, 2004
Hizballah (Party of God) http://www.nasrollah.org/ September 8, 2004
Palestine Islamic Jihad (PIJ) http://www.qudsway.com September 8, 2004
Al-Qaida http://www.hostinganime.com/neda4/index.htm September 8, 2004
Hamas military wing, Izza Deen al-Qassam http://www.alqassam.info October 16, 2004
Jana'at al-Tawhid wa'al Jihad http://www.hostinganime.com/iraqnews1/ October 17, 2004
Jama'at al-Tawhid wa'al-Jihad http://www.hostinganime.com/iraqnews2/ October 17, 2004

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Posted by: susan_b [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 12, 2004 11:58 PM

How come you missed out Burma (Myanmar) ? Burma has 3.9 % muslim minority known as Rohingya. They cause trouble in 2001 but was crushed by Burmese majority. I read somewhere in early 2001 that Burmese villagers burn down 8 mosques during the rioting with muslims.
I was surprised that Latin America has Islamic activity too. I heard Nepal begining to have problem with Islam too.

Posted by: GreatCornhorlio [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 13, 2004 3:26 AM

Mr.Spencer,
On the map you forget to represent the massive christian uprising, which exists largely on the East and West coast in the tiny minds of left-wing conspiracy theorists.

Posted by: Rikki [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 13, 2004 5:35 AM

Although I wasn't surprised that the Republic of Ireland wasn't a red-zone (Ireland is practically untouchable, the muslims wouldn't dare try anything there, from a little something called IRAphobia....Ireland is perhaps the only european country left untouched by islamic pollution), I was pretty shocked that Northern Ireland has felt the touch of jihad. Can anyone specify when this was???

Posted by: Rikki [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 13, 2004 5:39 AM

Rikki,

On the map I used, the UK was one whole, which of course included Northern Ireland. So clicking on England got me Northern Ireland too. But I know of nothing going on there.

If anyone knows of a better map to use, please notify me.

And thanks to all for your helpful input. I have followed up on it this morning and will post a revised map shortly.

Cordially,
Robert Spencer

Posted by: jihadwatch [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 13, 2004 7:28 AM

Let's face it. The map above, sooner or later, will be completely red. And the truth is that there is probably unreported activity in the unfilled areas.

Visuals are good demonstration tools -- Remember the old adage: a picture is worth a thousand words. We have to be creative in finding ways to educate and persuade.

Posted by: epg [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 13, 2004 7:48 AM

My only objection is the use of the color Red. Black would be better

Posted by: Kirk [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 13, 2004 9:11 AM

If anyone knows of a better map, let me know. This is a map from a site asking people to fill in what countries they've visited. I have no control over the map design or color.

Best
RS

Posted by: jihadwatch [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 13, 2004 9:29 AM

We can add South Korea to the list as well:

http://in.news.yahoo.com/041004/137/2h38d.html

Dino in Gimhae City, Korea

Posted by: dinobuddy [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 13, 2004 12:43 PM

Here is one map:

//www.hasbara.us/flatto_charon/the_enemies_of_the_world.htm

And I know there is a better world map, I've seen it, but can't find it now.

Maybe through the State Department? HMMMMMMMMM.

Posted by: susan_b [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 13, 2004 1:09 PM

Here we go:

://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/terror/framesource_map.html

And there has to be something in all this;

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Posted by: susan_b [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 13, 2004 1:36 PM

I know you're working with an unsophisticated tool in this map, but I also suggest you add Venezuela, and there are known transfer points for illegal muslim immigrants all through the Caribbean.

Regret not having the link handy, but the US Census website will produce a very detailed map of the US broken down by nearly any demographic it tracks. For example, despite the high rate of Jihadist activity in the Atlanta and Tampa areas, the demographics show the muslim population there being nearly statistically insignificant (assuming accurate counts of illegals, of course). Your point was that jihadis are conducting operations everywhere. Other posters asked if there was a demographic tipping point where muslim comunities began to conduct jihadist activities. I contend the question is misphrased--Dearborn, Michigan has America's highest concentration of muslims, and little reported jihadist activity ongoing (that I know of). The USA has nearly no muslims, statistically, and yet jihadis have carried out numerous attacks against the USA at home and abroad. I would suggest the tipping point argument is worth pursuing for dhimmi activities, where low-profile da'wa becomes high profile manipulation of our press, politicians and legal systems--moves from the Meccan to the Medinan phase, so to speak. As it is, our statistically insignificant number of muslims is enough to provide an underground railroad at home and around the world for jihadis who seek to attack the USA (someone fed and housed Atta and company all that time).

Posted by: longtime lurker [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 13, 2004 2:16 PM

epg said: "Tiny Minority - Don't get over confident. Examples: Castro conquered Cuba with a small number of guerillas, Pizarro and Cortes conquered the Incas and Azrtecs with a small number of conquistadores, the 300 held out against the Persians in Ancient Greece, and 300 IRA held the British army off for 25 years, and, last, but not least, Mohammed left with 50 men and returned to slaughter and conquer tribes and civilizations.

A small number of the determined can have a huge effect. We must be more determined if we're going to survive."

Listen to epg, Tiny Minority; it has been calculated that the support of only 10% of a population is required to constitute a "movement." The American Revolution itself had the support of only 30% of the population.

Given the moral imperative of Islam for world conquest, and the evidence of their success to date as indicated by the map above, we can ill afford the presence of ANY of these people in our country. They have no intention of "assimilating," they breed like cockroaches, so unless we want to fight from within to overthrow an Islamic government, we'd best get real very soon.

For those of you who believe that there was no Islamic involvement in the destruction of the Murrah Building in Oklahoma, please follow the recommendation to read "The Third Terrorist" by Jayna Davis. Beautifully researched and documented, and it leaves one with a high degree of suspicion that Timothy was nothing more that a tool for Islam to manipulate.

Posted by: cubed [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 13, 2004 3:57 PM

P.S. It is my fervent hope that since this site is now getting about 250,000 hits a day, that there are enough concerned Americans among them to form the beginning of a "movement" to preserve our Constitutional Republic.

Posted by: cubed [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 13, 2004 4:00 PM

Mr. Spencer may I suggest to you that we use reference as to where JIHAD/DIMI is not? It would be much easier then.

Susan B I for one salute you for a job well done, keep up the good work and God Bless you for your dedication.

Ykwh Akbar

Posted by: Chuck [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 13, 2004 8:14 PM

Chuck,

Thank You. I do my best.

Posted by: susan_b [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 14, 2004 12:19 AM

thanks susan_b for map of usa & terrorist orgs.

longtime lurker makes a good point regarding venezuela. a search of "venezuela" on jihadwatch caught some interesting info. the following is from the link http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/000903.php

"The terrorists even get some official support in Latin America, according to some sources. As WorldNetDaily reported, a Venezuelan military defector claims President Hugo Chavez developed ties to terrorist groups such as al-Qaida – even providing it with $1 million in cash after Sept. 11, 2001.

"Air Force Maj. Juan Diaz Castillo, who was Chavez's pilot, told WorldNetDaily through an interpreter that "the American people should awaken and be aware of the enemy they have just three hours' flight from the United States."

"Diaz said he was part of an operation in which Chavez gave $1 million to al-Qaida for relocation costs, shortly after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks on the United States."

another link of interest is http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/000270.php

Posted by: ted [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 14, 2004 3:27 AM

also, since north korea has been implicated in the transfer of weapons technology to iran & syria, would not it be appropriate to consider them an agent provocateur in the jihad?

Posted by: ted [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 14, 2004 3:32 AM

Whats not on here is Columbia and El Salvador.
2 years ago they found training camps with Islamic maerial.

//www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=14557

Posted by: susan_b [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 15, 2004 3:41 AM

You can add Zambia and Zimbabwe.
I don't have the documentation for Zimbabwe handy, but here is some documentation for Zambia.

http://www.dailytelegraph.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5936,6698275%255E401,00.html
“'Caged' children freed from school”, July 4, 2003, Telegraph UK
POLICE in Zambia have stormed a secret Islamic school in which 280 children were allegedly confined in cages and forced to study military tactics and Arabic, a police officer said today. The children, all of them teenage boys, were incarcerated at the school in a populous suburb of the capital, Lusaka, and also forced into studying Islam, one officer who took part in the operation said. He said Iqbal Patel, an Asian man in charge of the school, was arrested and charged with "child abuse, confinement and failing to provide necessities to children". According to the police the boys were lured from rural areas in Zambia by a promise that they would be sent abroad after they received training at the school. Seven of the teenagers were very sick and unable to walk, police said.


Posted by: jdoe@doe.org [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 15, 2004 12:10 PM

Mr. Antijihadist,

Whether you call me jihadist or not does not matter, as you seem to be totally ignorant of the teachings of Islaam and Jihaad.

But read a bit more on my site [www.planetaislam.com], and perhaps you will be able to distinguish between Sayyed Qutb, Zarqawi, Bin Laadin, FIS, GIA, Al-Qaidah etc. and Ibn Taimiyah, Naasir-ud-Deen al-Albaani, Bin Baaz, Bin Uthaimin and Salafiyah which you seem to throw all in one pot.

Or if you wish have a look here: http://www.planetaislam.com/terroryzm_islamski.html

abu anas (not al-liby)

Posted by: ibnmarian [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 16, 2004 7:40 AM

Wouldn't have expected to find Mr ibn Marian of all people on this website! You like it??

Yes, I am well aware that various Muslim clerics repeatedly condemn terrorist attacks in the West (some might argue that they do this more to deflect criticism of Islam rather than out of genuine belief, but we'll leave that out for now).

Are you really that surprised, though, that a religion which from its first years of existence taught that its followers will go straight to heaven if they die in battle against the Infidel would be used as the justification for so many of these terrorist attacks throughout the world??? On your website under the section "terrorist attacks in the USA" reads (translated):

http://www.planetaislam.com/praktyka/fatwa/atakinausa.html

"The killing of innocent people, terrorising and destroying their property when they are not at war with the given state is a crime"

Really quite vague, isn't it. For example bin Laden would argue that Americans are not "inocent people" and that they ARE "at war with the given state"...

And how can you back up your claim that Islam is the "only religion to guarantee womens' rights", when its Sharia Law dictates punishments such as stoning and does not allow them to marry people of their choosing???

Posted by: AntiJihadist [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 18, 2004 9:41 AM

well mr. anitjihadist,

you can interpret whatever you want, in whichever way you want. the same is true for the bible. you can take a passage and interpret it to suit your ideas. but that's not the topic here...

as for the shari'ah, it applies equally both men and women, there are no distinctions...

and a woman HAS TO approve her spouse before she gets marries. it is not allowed (HARAM) to marry a woman against her will...

Posted by: ibnmarian [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 19, 2004 9:42 AM

Ibn,

> "you can interpret whatever you want, in whichever way you want. the same is true for the bible."

True. However it is harder to justify violence in religious terms for a Christian seeing as Jesus advocates "turning the other cheek" and "loving one's enemies", whereas Muhammad himself fought wars and killed people, and Islam does say that if you die in battle against the Infidel you will go straight to heaven...

> "as for the shari'ah, it applies equally both men and women, there are no distinctions..."

The link below, in the "domestic justice" section, would suggest the opposite:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharia

"According to most interpretations, authorization for the husband to physically beat disobedient wives is given in the Qur'an. First, admonishment is verbal and secondly a period of refraining from intimate relations. Finally, if the husband deems the situation appropriate, he may hit her:

"Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great."

(Qur'an 4:34 English translation: MH Shakir)"

So the husband can hit his wife when he wants to... hardly Sharia law "applying equally", even less so "guaranteeing womens' rights"...

Also, Muslim men can marry non-Muslim women, but Muslim women cannot marry non-Muslim men. How is that "treating men and women equally"???

> "and a woman HAS TO approve her spouse before she gets married. it is not allowed (HARAM) to marry a woman against her will..."

Maybe she has to give the final word, but she cannot CHOOSE who to marry, otherwise why have arranged marriages?!

Posted by: AntiJihadist [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 19, 2004 2:25 PM