This is f***ing scary. This should be on the front page of every single newspaper. This should be on billboards in every major city. Guess if the media is going to make any mention of this?

Posted by: bastardos at December 16, 2004 8:27 AM

From play and learn's Site:

To The People Of The World

This is the story that must be told,
Of an Iraqi baby, not very old

Lying in her crib on e star-lit night
How could she know of those planes in flight?

She lies there quietly touching her nose
Watching her mobile, wiggling her toes

Oohing and cooing, so sweetly is she
Talking to someone, who could it be?

An angel is standing with her in the room.
The baby is smiling, unaware of her doom.

The crib starts to shake and the mobile goes round
Then suddenly comes the most deafening sound

The ceiling drops in, in a second or two...
On her crib so she ceases to coo...

No one knows how long she lies there
Who thought about it? Doesn't anyone care?

Is she alive? Is she dead? Is she in pain?
Now that you mention it, who knows her name?

Her name is Amel, in English we say Hope
Crushed between the rubble, her tiny fingers start to grope!

Where is my Mommy? I love her so dear.
Come get me Mommy! It's dark in here!

I'm scared and hungry and I can't see my feet,
There's blood in my mouth! Give me something to eat!

Where is Daddy? Where's my big brother?
It hurts when I breathe! Where is my mother?!

How long have I been here? Is this just a dream?
I open my mouth, but I can't even scream!

They appear again by my side.
This time with a tear I plead...Why have I died?

Am I alone in my suffering? NO, there are many others.
In our grief and misery, we are all sisters and brothers.

Who are we, I ask you.. for what crime did we die?
They're throwing a party! Doesn't anyone cry?!

Is it true? Am I nothing?! How could it be?
Don't they also have babies, just like me?

It is war they say, of which death is a part.
How blind they've become, how hardened of heart.

Did someone say hero? To whom they speak?
A victory claimed for killing the weak?!

Why are they happy? Why are they proud?
Don't they know that I'm cold in my burial shroud?!

No war has been won; no ifs, buts or maybes
For Saddam still lives: THEY'VE ONLY KILLED BABIES!!!

Posted by: Andrew at December 16, 2004 8:36 AM

From the Kids Gallery:

LADIES WITHOUT HIJAB, YOU'RE AN ATOM UNDONE,
YOU'VE EXPLODED IN SOCIETY, THE FATALITIES WILL COME.

http://www.playandlearn.org/Kids/index.htm

Posted by: Andrew at December 16, 2004 8:38 AM

My God

It really is amazing. The hatred and bigotry is indoctrinated into them as children.

It leaves me speechless. Hatred, hatred, hatred. Unreal.

This is brainwashing of children to hate the entire non Muslim world. It beggars belief.

Posted by: Kaffir Boy at December 16, 2004 8:48 AM

So what? They're forbidden to have love for other human beings, but they can make love to donkeys in the mountains of Afghanistan?

What a concept......No wonder they have such a high stupidity rate, carrying thought processes like this with them wherever the infest.

Posted by: DCWatson at December 16, 2004 8:48 AM

The coloring book must be something to see.
"Here Aisha. Sit down with Mommy and the rest of the women and color this nice picture of an adulteress being stoned to death while we listen to Imam Rantsandraves preach about the Zionist plot to destroy the WTC."

Posted by: Miss Moneypenney at December 16, 2004 8:53 AM

I do not know of any other group of people or any other religion that indoctrinates hatred for the entire human race into their children. I know all types of Christians, Jews, Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists, Hare Krishnas...all of them have their cranky beliefs but none of them teach hatred like this. Its almost like it is being fed to them with the mothers milk.

There is something spectacularly creepy about this website.

The more I read and learn the more apparent it becomes that Islam has a deep rooted contempt and hatred for everything that is not Muslim. It manifests at the most extreme end in violence against unbelievers but in a day-to-day context it creates a stupefying psychology of contempt, bigotry, a cruel manichean worldview that mingles a superiority complex with a deep insecurity that produces a raging inferiority complex. It is the reason for Muslim failure in societies like Britain, where they are at the bottom of all social indicators. It is self imposed backwardness caused by this kind of mentality.

I am reminded of pictures of Nazi schools in which four and five year old children were being taught to hate all that was not Aryan and German.

It is amazing, the hatred that seeps out of the ideology of Islam.

Posted by: Kaffir Boy at December 16, 2004 8:57 AM

Play and learn, The Battle of Tabuk:

"The journey of the Muslim army was filled with difficulties and the weather was extremely hot. ...
The journey to Tabuk was not wasted because the Holy Prophet (S) managed to get most of the surrounding chiefs to accept Islam while the others agreed to pay tax to the Muslim state in return for protection."

IN OTHER WORDS:

A) Convert
B) Tax (Dhimmitude)
C) Sword

http://www.playandlearn.org/History/index.htm

THIS IS WHAT THEY ARE TEACHING CHILDREN IN CANADA???

Posted by: Andrew at December 16, 2004 9:11 AM

THIS IS WHAT THEY ARE TEACHING CHILDREN IN CANADA???~ Andrew

One wonders what Scoot81 thinks of that one... or does he think?

Posted by: Gary at December 16, 2004 9:17 AM

My God. look at this. This is what Muslim children are being taught:

http://www.playandlearn.org/History/index.htm

The Battle Of Hunayn

On leaving the battlefield of Hunayn, some unbelievers gathered at Ootas to regroup and fight again. The Holy Prophet (S) sent a large force to deal with them. Eventually the Muslims won this battle, but not before their commander had been killed. They also took a large number of prisoners and war booty.

++++

Sent a large force to "deal with them". I wonder how they dealt with them. And then glorifying the taking of 'war booty'.

Is this what Muslim children are taught in their mosques and madrassahs?

I really hope a major news organisation can investigate this.

Posted by: Kaffir Boy at December 16, 2004 9:19 AM

From Play and Learn: The Battle Of Ahzab

(One thing is certain, Muslims are certainly well schooled in the glory of their history. Far better than your average American, who would shrug if you asked him to say a bit about Bunker Hill, Saratoga, Valley Forge, The burning of the White House, or even the significance of December 7, 1941, June 6, 1944, or August 6, 1945. For that I really admire them.)

"When the Jews of Bani Qaynqaa were expelled from Madina because of their trouble making, their sister tribe, the Bani Nuzayr, were very angry. They became deadly enemies of Islam and waited for an opportunity to do the Muslims harm."

Could this be considered " Incitement" or "Hate Speech" in the UK?

http://www.playandlearn.org/History/index.htm

Posted by: Andrew at December 16, 2004 9:25 AM

Andrew

I have a theory you know. I reckon the whole Religious Hate law in the UK, if passed, will backfire on Muslims spectacularly. The thing is, Muslims speak in such hateful terms about others, that they find it difficult to not say things that will get them in trouble. Teaching children about the glories of slaughtering Jewish tribes? I cant believe this goes on, that they are indoctrinated from such a young age. It beggars belief.

Posted by: Kaffir Boy at December 16, 2004 9:31 AM

Well, I also believe that love of God comes first. But the book where I learn of God's commands reminds me as well to love my nieghbor as myself--and Jesus' example in answer to the question of "Who is my neighbor?" was a Samaritan--a member of an "other" group. He also commended the faith of a Roman centurion; and ordered us to pray for those who persecute us.

In the Old Testament, I am commanded to pray for the peace of the city where I live--even if its name is Babylon (Jeremiah).

It isn't people who put God first that make problems--it's which God and which book.

Posted by: Kepha1 at December 16, 2004 9:51 AM

"A person gets along with the other one only if there is a benefit from him or if he is been taken care of the other or at least he treats him good."

How can I take a bigot seriously if he cannot even write "good"?

Posted by: Nostromo at December 16, 2004 9:58 AM

Kaffir boy want some more scary stuff? From the same source, "Play and Learn"—funny, I can't tell the past from the present!

(1) THE SCENE PRIOR TO ISLAM

It was a desolate land: sandy, barren, and unfriendly

The home of the Arabs; wild ferocious and manly

They worshipped the idols; they loved to fight

Life to them was wine, women and might

The number of wives, the cattle they owned,

The number of slaves, one's house adorned,

Was a sign of rank in wealth and might;

It was a society, where Might was Right.

Two qualities they had, which were good

The guests they honored, with best of food

Poetry to them, was an art supremely sublime

They were literary geniuses of their time.

They killed female babes, they buried them alive

They married the widows, their father's wives

Vengeance was a passion, cruel the strife

These sons of desert, such was their life.

Morals they had none; wild was their lust

Women were cattle, treated like dust

Enjoyment of life was their sole goal

Woman, they believed, had no soul.

They had no belief in the life Hereafter

Life to them was all fun and laughter

Prophets had come and prophets had gone

Still, this land was of truth shorn.

Judaism was dead; Christianity was in name

Sickly and forlorn, the world remained

Vengeance, to them, was an article of faith

Blindly, they relished their creed of hate.

The priests were interpreters of heavenly laws

They commanded respect and were held in awe

Things that were unlawful, to them were allowed

A privileged class; they were haughty and proud.

In span of four thousand and odd years

Innumerable religions had been reared

With passage of time, they were polluted

Beyond recognition, each got diluted.

The true religions were only in name

It was virtually a devils reign

Truth was at a discount; honesty had fled

Virtue was scoffed at; goodness was dead.

This land was thus chosen for God's last message

It was the crossroad of international passage

The last of message was thus destined,

To stay forever and cover all mankind.

Posted by: Michael in SC at December 16, 2004 10:15 AM

Darn heartless Infidels:

Give an arm and a leg for a friend???

http://www.playandlearn.org/Kids/index.htm

The above story is clearly brainwashing, really. Read about the Viet Nam vet who lost an arm and a leg.

Posted by: Andrew at December 16, 2004 10:32 AM

It is all out there for all to see. They are saying exactly what they believe, where are the news people that we depend on to give us the truth? Any major newspapers carrying this story? Any network news trucks at the door of this establishment? No, just the same old tired "it's not all of the followers of islam, just a tiny fraction of fanatics" If we are fighting this war to win it, when are we all going to get on the same page? The whole of Islam is the problem. Their book is their roadmap and it leads to hell.

Posted by: Carolyn2 at December 16, 2004 10:49 AM

Read the part on this site about * Do not argue about things you do not know* - that is why the muslims always call us ignorant when we get into a discussion about their vile religion.

Posted by: Carolyn2 at December 16, 2004 10:59 AM

SOMEONE IN fRANCE MUST HAVE READ THE QURAN BECAUSE THEY BANED A ARAB CHANNEL WHICH INSIGHTED HATE??

Now when will they really deal with the problem??

It is the Quran Stupid!!

Qur’an 3:45 “Behold, the angels said: ‘O Mariam! Allah gives you glad tidings of a Word from Him: his name will be the Messiah, Isa (Jesus), the son of Mariam, held in honor in this world and the Hereafter and of those nearest to Allah.”

SO WHICH IS IT WHICH IS THE LIE??

Qur’an 4.171 “O people of the Book (Christians), do not be fanatical in your faith, and say nothing but the truth about Allah. The Messiah who is Isa (Jesus), son of Mariam, was only a messenger of Allah, nothing more. He bestowed His Word on Mariam and His Spirit. So believe in Allah and say not Trinity for Allah is one Ilah (God)…far be it from His Glory to beget a son.”

COULD THIS BE THE ONE THE KING IS A LITTLE WORRIED ABOUT?

Qur’an 61:14 “O Muslims! Be helpers of Allah: As Jesus the son of Mary said to the Disciples, ‘Who will be my helpers (in the Cause) of Allah?’ Said the disciples, ‘We are Allah’s helpers!’ Then a portion of the Children of Israel believed, and a portion disbelieved: But We gave power to those who believed against their enemies, and they became the victorious.”

IN GODS CAUSE TO SAVE HIS PEOPLE OF ISRAEL WHO HE SAVED FROM EGYPT?? REMEMBER JESUS WAS A JEW!!

Qur’an 48:11 “The desert Arabs who lagged behind [in fighting] will say to you (Muhammad): ‘We were engaged in (looking after) our flocks and our families.’ We have prepared for them a Blazing Fire!”

THIS IS WHAT THEY ARE USING TO CALL TO FIGHT NOW!!

Qur’an 4:78 “Wherever you are, death will find you, even if you are in towers built up strong and high! If some good befalls, they say, ‘This is from Allah;’ but if evil, they say, ‘This is from you (Muhammad).’ Say: ‘All things are from Allah.’ So what is wrong with these people, that they fail to understand these simple words?”

Ubl [yellow coward who runs away] USE THIS TO TAKE OUT THE WTC NOT SOME THING HE THOUGHT UP??

Qur’an 4:88 “What is the matter with you that you are divided about the Hypocrites? Allah has cast them back (causing their disbelief). Would you guide those whom Allah has thrown out of the Way? For those whom Allah has thrown aside and led astray, never shall they find the Way.

YEA RIGHT LOOK AT EVERY MULSUM COUNTRY A SHIT HOLE!!
” Qur’an 4:89 “They wish that you would reject Faith, as they have, and thus be on the same footing: Do not be friends with them until they leave their homes in Allah’s Cause. But [and this is a hell of a but...] if they turn back from Islam, becoming renegades, seize them and kill them wherever you find them.”
Qur’an 47:21 “Were they to obey, showing their obedience in modest speech, after the matter (of preparation for Jihad) had been determined for them, it would have been better. Is it to be expected that if you were put in authority and given command that you would do mischief in the land and sever your ties of kinship. Such men are cursed by Allah. He has made them deaf, dumb and blind.”
Qur’an 4:97 “Verily, when angels take the souls of those who die wronging themselves (by staying home), they say: ‘In what (plight or engagement) were you?’ They reply: ‘Weak on the earth.’ Such men will find their abode in Hell, an evil resort!”

AGAIN IT IS THE QURAN!!

Part of the American Tribe
God Bless the USA and her Fighting Forces and ALL who Fight with her give them Strength,Sight,Wisdom, and Courage to stay the course to DEFEAT all islamic terrorist and all who support them Amen

Posted by: Catherine at December 16, 2004 11:03 AM

This website is begging to be shut down.

Posted by: 3812Michelle at December 16, 2004 11:11 AM

The Play and Learn website, that is.

Posted by: 3812Michelle at December 16, 2004 11:12 AM

This should be of no suprise as we Know what they are up too.Heck these people cant even get along withselves nor can they agree to what muhamad meant when he wrote the koran IE: sunni,shiite,kurds,bohras,khojas,ismailis just to name a few different groups let alone where they live.

OT: I highly recomend a book entitled" The Blood Of Abraham" by hmm hmm EXCUSE ME Jimmy Carter. In it lies the truth of Isaac and Ishmail whose father is Abraham.This book will drive you to research some facts that cant possibly be true to find out that yes indeed that is how it happened to be that the foundation of Islam was laid.
These people are still PO'd from thousands of years ago when the true YKWY was chosen.

YKWH AKBAR

Posted by: Chuck at December 16, 2004 11:15 AM

These dingalings want tolerance from all of us unbelievers? No love, no tolerance, no respect, and no mercy for these damn fools.

Posted by: Prickzilla at December 16, 2004 11:19 AM

As if this weren't bad enough...

A few of us need to go to

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/blogs/opinion/

and help Rod Dreher out. But first read:

The good side of Khomeini.

Appeasement in Dallas? OMG

Posted by: Michael in SC at December 16, 2004 11:34 AM

Where's Naseem? I'd like to read your thoughts on this particular site and it's "educational" content for children.

Posted by: Walker Colt at December 16, 2004 11:51 AM

What beggars belief about the "Play and Learn" web site and its message, is that our "leaders", indeed many Americans, wouldn't see any problem with it.
Our ability to ignore, and in many cases support the Islamic assaults on our country is chilling.
People are either brainwashed, ignorant, or just to comfortable to speak out.

Or maybe afraid.

Posted by: Richard at December 16, 2004 11:55 AM

Naseem is a slug, hovering over the radio hoping to hear news of another murder of a non-Islamic human being.

Naseem, you're a parasitic Muslim, scrounging off the misery of good people, while making apologies for the psychotic way of thinking Muslims practice........"Given an inch, try to take a mile.......Any misfortunes, blame anyone but yourselves"

Posted by: Prickzilla at December 16, 2004 12:01 PM

"In order to live with the morals of the Qur'an, one should completely leave the culture and all the moral values of the profane society."

That's because everybody else thinks that the "morals" of the Quran are profoundly immoral. They have to shut themselves off from true morality in order to believe that their death cult is a paragon of virtue.

How can people believe that hating, stealing from, extorting from, raping, and making war on other people just because of their religion (or lack of) is morally right?

They can't -- that's why they have to exclude themselves from other people. Other people look at their idea of "morals" in revulsion.

Posted by: Suzan at December 16, 2004 12:16 PM

I Can't believe this
LONDON, England (CNN) -- Britain's highest court has ruled against the detention of foreign terrorism suspects without trial.

The ruling on Thursday by nine Law Lords was a major blow to the UK government, which argued that the detention of some suspects was a tough but essential measure to protect the country from potential attacks.

The Lords were considering an appeal by nine Muslim men who had been held in prison for up to three years under legislation introduced after the September 11 attacks on the United States.

Giving the ruling of the Law Lords in the Chamber of the House of Lords, Lord Bingham said the section of the anti-terrorism act under which the men were held was incompatible with the European Convention.

Bingham, head of the nine-judge panel, said the law "permits detention of suspected international terrorists in a way that discriminates on the ground of nationality or immigration status."

The ruling came the day after Home Secretary David Blunkett -- who introduced the anti-terrorism policies -- resigned amid a scandal over allegations that he abused his position for personal reasons. (Full story)

Blunkett, 57, stepped down after weeks of accusations that he helped speed up a residence visa for the nanny of a former lover, U.S.-born magazine publisher Kimberley Quinn.

The UK government, Washington's chief ally in its "war on terror," said it would send the controversial law under which the Muslim men are held back to parliament.

But it refused to release the nine -- one of whom is accused of inspiring the September 11 attacks -- for security reasons.

"It is ultimately for parliament to decide whether and how we should amend the law," new Home Secretary Charles Clarke said in a statement.

"Accordingly, I will not be ... releasing the detainees, whom I have reason to believe are a significant threat to our security."

The appeal by the nine men will now go forward to the European Court of Human Rights, but CNN Correspondent Diana Muriel said it was unclear when that will be heard.

Most of the men are being held at Belmarsh Prison in south London, which has been described as Britain's Guantanamo by civil liberties lawyers.

IT;S BLACK DAY INDEED

Posted by: shiva at December 16, 2004 12:19 PM

Here's what's really scary about this guy H. Yahya (Note the name: HYAHYA...hehe, funny):

He's believed to be a physics professor in Turkey named Adnan Oktar. He's written an online "book" or two titled "The Evolution Deceit" as I recall - it was heavily debated among myself, a couple of skeptics and two or three real thickos over at the forum at jamaat.net. I basically trashed the text over there without much trouble (a tower built of straw, frankly) but the important point is that it sells like hotcakes apparently over in Turkey and the Middle East, despite being the worst kind of tripe. (Tripe? Hotcakes? There's a food theme there.) I thought you might all like to know - he styles himself the newest challenger to evolutionary theory, but in reality is something of a decrepid hack. Doesn't respond to emails, that sort of thing. A coward, really. And yet, he's the new all-star for the "we-didn't-come-from-filthy-monkeys-you-filthy-idolater" crowd. Scary. This stuff is accepted by the radicals and the moderates prima facie, no exceptions.

By the way...about that forum: some of you may recall that an islamofascist named Ahmad invited JWers to 'get the other side of the story' at www.forum.jamaat.net...now it seems that it's been shut down because of a hacker. Kind of too bad, because I was absolutely owning that place in the debates. Ah well. Anyway, one of you lot is the responsible party...naughty. =)

Geoff

Posted by: Geoff at December 16, 2004 12:41 PM

I see that fox hunting is be banned,what about using the dogs for Lord Haw Haw hunting

Posted by: shiva at December 16, 2004 12:43 PM

Oops. My bad: "IF one of you is the responsible party." IF. IF. Sorry about that. Definitely not saying anyone here necessarily did it.

I'll keep you all updated on whether or not they can get the gremlins out so I can swoop back in to obliterate them. Come on over and take on some morons on their home ground. =)

Geoff

Posted by: Geoff at December 16, 2004 12:45 PM

Very revealing, and consistent with many articles and comments on this site concering psychological attitudes towards unbelievers. This paragraph was one that stuck out for me:

"Believers respect Allah above anything, therefore the believers love people according to their sincerity with Allah, and they dislike them according to their disobey to Allah."

So-called 'love' toward people is correlated to 'obedience' to Allah. The belief-system is based on the psychology of unquestioning 'order-compliance'. Only those who comply with the correct orders should be according 'respect' or any kind of positive feeling.

Can't you feel the death gaze of Mohammad Atta staring back at you through these remarks?

Upon these ideas are taught the attitudes that dehumanize Infidels. I believe these kinds of ideas are reasons why indiscriminate mass murder of Infidels in Jihad does not upset the moral sensibilities of even moderate Muslims to the degree that serious reform of the belief system might be critically considered: Infidels were killed. Well, Allah sees and knows all things. Maybe they had it coming? Maybe the children of Beslan were done a favor, killed and sent back to Allah before their souls could be corrupted any further. Perhaps a troubling thought for many Muslims; but in any case, the mass murders of Infidels can be rationalized, forgotten, and then blamed on causes that have nothing to do with believers and Islam (the Jews, oppression, America, or whatever) after a little display of 'outrage' and 'condemnation', that is partially caused by embarrassment (Believers cannot appear to be less worthy than unbelievers).

Posted by: JTF at December 16, 2004 1:21 PM

Shiva-
These detentions may stand up in court yet. Check out my post in "UK court rejects terror detentions".

Posted by: Mike at December 16, 2004 1:43 PM

Andrew

I have a theory you know. I reckon the whole Religious Hate law in the UK, if passed, will backfire on Muslims spectacularly. The thing is, Muslims speak in such hateful terms about others, that they find it difficult to not say things that will get them in trouble. Teaching children about the glories of slaughtering Jewish tribes? I cant believe this goes on, that they are indoctrinated from such a young age. It beggars belief.

Posted by: Kaffir Boy at December 16, 2004 09:31 AM

Well, there is an old saying, "Live by the sword, die by the sword", so you will probably be proven right in the end. I just hope you aren't kept waiting too long.

Posted by: waterdragon52 at December 16, 2004 1:50 PM

"When we feel love and kindness toward others, it not only makes others feel loved and cared for, but it helps us also to develop inner happiness and peace."
His Holiness the Dalai Lama

Off course, this requires a virtue sorely lacking in the mind of the Islamic Supremacist - HUMILITY.

Arrogance and bigotry make for an unstable and volatile foundation to build up a child's self-esteem. Of course, if you are trying to produce a violent, bigoted, hate-filled adult, "No Love Towards The Unbelievers" is precisely what you want to teach your children.

Posted by: Mike at December 16, 2004 2:08 PM

OOPS, typo:
OF course, this requires a virtue sorely lacking in the mind of the Islamic Supremacist - HUMILITY.

Posted by: Mike at December 16, 2004 2:09 PM

Or maybe afraid.

Posted by: Richard at December 16, 2004 11:55 AM

WRONG! WRONG! WRONG! IN RED COUNTRY #1 GIFTS ARE GUNS!!

People are getting ready for the Storm!!

Breaking News!!!

SOMEONE BURNED DOWN THE LOV SHACK IN GA. !! YES THE B52s LOV SHACK??

THIS MEANS WAR!!

http://emperors-clothes.com/news/binl.htm
Bin Laden in the Balkans
[Re-Posted with additional materials, 3 October 2001
From the 'The Washington Times' June 22, 2001
"The rebels would have their big brothers in America - the same heroes who led the NATO mission against their enemies, the Serbs - believe that the violence they are now perpetrating in Macedonia is merely about protecting minority rights. But the National Liberation Army (NLA), a splinter of the Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA), also has another motive: It is fighting to keep control over the region's drug trafficking, which has grown into a large, lucrative enterprise since the Kosovo war. In addition to drug money, the NLA also has another prominent venture capitalist: Osama bin Laden. The Muslim terrorist leader, according to a document obtained by The Washington Times and written by the chief commander of the Macedonian Security Forces, puts out the front money for the rebel group through a representative in Macedonia: 'This person is representative of Osama Ben laden sic , who is the main financial supporter of the National Liberation Army, where up to date he has paid $6 million to $7 million for the needs of the National Liberation Army.'"
********************************************
From 'The Canberra Times' (Australia ) April 28, 2000 - Page 8
"BIN LADEN IN KOSOVO ACTS
"BELGRADE: Islamic Saudi millionaire Osama bin Laden, wanted for terrorism by the United States, is in Kosovo. The official Yugoslav news agency Tanjug said bin Laden, whom it described as a " terrorist and Islamic fanatic" , arrived from Albania after having formed a group of 500 Islamic fighters in the eastern region around Korce and Pogradec to carry out " terrorist acts" in Kosovo.
"He planned similar acts in the southern region of Serbia bordering on Kosovo, including Presevo, Medvedja and Bujanovac, the agency said."
*******************************
'The Charleston Gazette.' November 30, 1998 - Page 2A
"BIN LADEN RUNS TERRORIST NETWORK, REPORT SAYS
"LONDON - The man accused of orchestrating the U.S. Embassy bombings in Africa operates a terrorist network out of Albania, The Sunday Times reported.
"The newspaper quoted Fatos Klosi, the head of the Albanian intelligence service, as saying a network run by Saudi exile Osama Bin Laden sent units to fight in the Serbian province of Kosovo.
"Bin Laden is believed to have established an Albanian operation in 1994 after telling the government he headed a wealthy Saudi humanitarian agency wanting to help Albania, the newspaper reported.
"Klosi said he believed terrorists had already infiltrated other parts of Europe from bases in Albania. Apparent confirmation of Bin Laden's activities came earlier this month during the murder trial of Claude Kader, 27, a French national who said he was a member of Bin Laden's Albanian network, the newspaper said.
"Kader claimed during the trial he had visited Albania to recruit and arm fighters for Kosovo.
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FROM 'THE DAILY OKLAHOMAN,' May 28, 1999
"...As U.S. Sen. Jim Inhofe long has predicted, American troops go into Kosovo against the Serbs, they'll be fighting alongside a terrorist organization known to finance its operations with drug sales - including some to the United States.
"By joining hands with the Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA), which intelligence sources say bankrolls itself by selling heroin and cocaine, the United States also would become partners of a sort with Osama bin Laden, the international terrorist behind last year's bombings of U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, the Washington Times reports. According to the newspaper's sources, the KLA is linked to an extensive organized crime network headquartered in Albania. In 1998 the State Department listed the KLA as an international terrorist organization that supported itself with drug profits and through loans from known terrorists like bin Laden.
"Such an ally is the result of Bill Clinton choosing sides in a centuries-old civil war. "They were terrorists in 1998 and now, because of politics, they're freedom fighters," a top drug official told the Times.
"In Bill Clinton's war, where bombing has been turned into a humanitarian application, such a paradox fits right in.
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In 1999, the newspaper, 'Dani,' announced that bin Laden had been issued a Special Passport from the Washington-Backed Bosnian Government in 1993. Two weeks ago, the Bosnian government issued a denial. Given that this denial took two years and came immediately after September 11th, we suggest it be taken with a grain of salt.
"BIN LADEN WAS GRANTED BOSNIAN PASSPORT
"Agence France Presse September 24, 1999
"SARAJEVO
"Osama bin Laden, the Saudi billionaire wanted by the United States for organising bloody terrorist attacks, was granted a Bosnian passport in 1993 by the country's [i.e., Bosnia]embassy in Vienna, an independent weekly reported Friday.
"'The Bosnian embassy in Vienna granted a passport to bin Laden in 1993,' Dani magazine said, quoting anonymous sources, emphasizing that files and traces linked to his case have recently been destroyed by the [Bosnian] government.
"However, Bin Laden 'did not personally collect his Bosnian passport,' Dani said, without elaborating or explicitly stating that his passport was ever collected.
"'High Muslim officials of the Bosnian foreign ministry agreed that it [the destruction of files linked to bin Laden] was the top priority. It was even more important than investigating a person responsible for granting a passport to the most wanted terrorist in the world,' Dani reported.
"According to the article, Muslim political circles claim that six years ago officials at the Bosnian embassy in Vienna could not have known who bin Laden was.
"During the 1992-1995 Bosnia's war, the Vienna embassy has been 'making contacts with many Arab-world people seeking aid' for the mainly Muslim Bosnian army, the article said.
"The foreign ministry issued no comments on the article. Bin Laden, believed to be in Afghanistan, is accused by the United States of masterminding bloody bomb attacks against its embassies in Kenya and Tanzania in August of last year. Over 200 people were killed in these attacks. Washington has offered a reward of five million dollars for information leading to his arrest.
"Earlier this week the Bosnian government confirmed it had granted citizenship and passport to a Tunisian-born senior aide of bin-Laden in 1997. The government said citizenship was given to Mahrez Amduni, known in Sarajevo as Mehrez Amdouni, on the basis of his Bosnian army membership, stressing that there was no Interpol arrest warrant against him at that time.
"Amduni was arrested by Turkish police at Istanbul airport on September 13, in an operation in which Interpol also took part.
"During the Bosnia 1992-95 war some Islamic fighters battled alongside Muslim soldiers in central Bosnia against Bosnian Serbs and Croats. Most of them left the country after a US-brokered peace deal was signed in 1995. Some of them gained Bosnian citizenship as members of the Bosnian army or by marrying Bosnian women.
"The government has never revealed how many foreign fighters were granted Bosnian citizenship."
Copyright 1999 Agence France Presse
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The following article, while not specifically about bin Laden, talks about how the Mujahideen functioned in Bosnia:
"Polish Press Reports On Training Of Mujahideen In Bosnia
"From Tanjug, 12/16/97
"Intelligence services of the Nordic-Polish SFOR Brigade suspect that a center for training terrorists from Islamic countries is located in the Bocina Donja village near Maglaj in Bosnia, Warsaw daily Rzecspospolita writes on Tuesday.
"The author of the article, Marek Popowsky, who used to be in both SFOR and its predecessor IFOR in Bosnia, writes that mujahideen had first come to Bosnia in 1992, and numbered over 3,000 in the summer of 1995.
"Besides mujahideen from Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Iran and Pakistan, there were several hundred Muslim extremists who had come from Italy, France, Germany and Britain, he notes.
"Deserters from the Turkish, Malaysian and French UNPROFOR battalions also volunteered as mujahideen, Popowsky writes. In addition to dangerous military actions, the mujahideen also carried out a religious and ideological mission, enforcing abidance by the Koran and recruiting young soldiers to die for Allah, Popowsky writes.
"Noting that Bosniac (Muslim) troops respected their allies but feared them at the same time as Allahs' warriors used to carry out high-risk actions and were cruel fighters, Popowsky quotes Serb officers as saying that the mujahideen never took prisoners. Wounded enemy soldiers were usually decapitated or slaughtered by mujahideen, Popowsky writes.
"The Dayton Agreement committed (Bosnian Muslim leader) Alija Izetbegovic to remove all foreign fighters from Bosnia, but about one thousand mujahideen who obtained Bosnian citizenship in the meantime remain in Sarajevo, Tuzla, Zenica and about ten villages, the daily writes.
"The largest group of mujahideen is now in Bocina Donja, a formerly Serb village near Maglaj, the daily writes, adding that the Nordic-Polish intelligence service G-5 is following the activities of such unusual "settlers", as it suspects that a camp for training terrorists is located in the village following reports from Serb and Croat forces' commanders.
"Noting that Islamic states had allocated to the Muslim part of Bosnia military and humanitarian aid to the value of over one billion dollars and that decisions to this effect had been taken not only by governments but also by various extremist Muslim groups and informal institutions, the daily writes that the activities of mujahideen in Bocina Donja would continue to be monitored by international special services to prevent the village from being transformed into a base for launching terrorist operations." (Tanjug, Warsaw, December 16

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Posted by: Catherine at December 16, 2004 2:12 PM

A New Years Greeting: May Allah, God, Creator, Atirawa Bless the Generations of People for Peace and Welfare of His Creations, I am an American Indian of the indigenous Pawnee people in North America. Not all of us are infidels on this continent of Sacred Bond & Trust, (by treaty) bestowed our nation with declaration of one republic under God. WE have our own soveriegn, (separate) ways of prayer given to us by our Creator. We have the sacred medicine:Peyote, we pray with a pipe, we use cedar in our ceremonies, and we thank and praise the Creator for gift of Water on our planet, in our soveriegn Native American Church.
Since this day of the Golden Rule, Caine killed his brother Abel and his decendendents were marked by their Creator. The Creator destroyed the earth and made the Rainbow Covenant, then the people could not even keep the Ten Commandments, or even keep their bloodlines pure. So Creator, Allah, God, Atirawa, He gave another chance for the human race and gave His Best for humans to believe. He gave His Bright & Morning Star, for one more chance at the Golden Rule, to the race of man He opened the door for the Gentile brude! Now we battle on Sacred ground for the shroud of the enemy in the name of the righteous. Granted the United States does have a lot infidels, agnostics, and people who believe in nothing but their own self gain. Angels have come through Hell to war for these ideals of a free and a democratic society. If not for this reason, then the French/Indian wars, Hitler's haulocast of Jews, the Cold War and Vietnam were all in vain. This is a Holy War why doth though boast with suicide bombers and not fight to break the curse of death upon earth? The people and babies of Allah deserve peace on earth? The White man has a few good virutes of law/policy/procedures to endow a country with rights of censor within its borders so you could keep the influence of the decadent out. The babies of Islam deserve a society of freedom and democracy to bring industry, education, health, and good food to their people and mandate their laws of worship. If you keep killing how are any of you going to know which way is right. Justifying the war for the world economy is one thing-but the United States not abiding in the treaty to reduce greenhouse emissions for just the economy is wrong. If we keep this up the mantle of the earth will melt and open as a lake of fire and tornadoes will bore through our valleys with the wood buring drought and fire. Will somebody please care about our earth? WE are making it harder to last for 1000 years - as the Reaper strokes his sickle for the Weeds and tries to put the Wheat in the Barn~! Caines people were marked, the African Americans were dragged over here to serve the colonialist. The African Americans try to sue the US government for slavery while reaping vast amounts of monies for their athletic and music rapping ablities. Why dont they see thier starving Grama's, Grandpas and Baby rappers starving in the Sudan and rush to bring relief to their misery? The Spirit and freedom of the American Eagle is inspired to me by the Harley Davidson Motorcycle Co. It us fuel efficient and made for trueness and quality - it is the closest I have to a unbroken treaty.
Hells Angels originated from Veterans of Wars of this Country. My Native American colors are Red & Blue, Hells Angels are Red & White. Who will stand at the gates of Hell and fight for the rights of Creation to live in peace upon the earth? Now, our Marines battle on Sacred Ground for those who go in the Name of the Lord. Weary not to kill and help Arab Countries Have Peace they deserve! While You fight on Holy Ground in the name of the Allah and Morning Star battles against legions of satan in Spriritual Realms to save His Creation. He keeps His promise for the sake of His Children. You suicide bombers are take the easy way out~! Who is afraid to meet their Maker? When Creator takes His Judgement Seat to review the War Crimes Tribunal of Earth - Who will be Your Attorney? The Morning Star, Joshua-Bon-Josef (AKA:Jesus) is the Attorney General/Prosecuting Attorney in the Universal Court of Life and Death "Vortex to Hades~!" Merry Christmas, Happy Hannakah and welcome to the Holy War we have fought within our own borders since the beginning of time. We carry the United States flag in ours and left the Karma of vengeance to God. Happy Day rests in the Blessed Hope of Judgement Day and to the Apocalypse end~! Shalom. Hope you all have a good attorney! I am still trying to understand why, in the first gall of deciet, Caine/Eve/or Lucifer? To Atirawa/God/Allah/Creator Be the Glory -Lest Any man Boast, uh>?

Posted by: Chu-Pit-it-sta-ka at December 16, 2004 2:49 PM

This Play and Learn site is disheartening. Who funds it? From the section on "Kindness" here is a quote, "Believers who overcome their vain desires, will naturally be kind and sensitive to other believers." Notice that kindness is a virtue but toward OTHER BELIEVERS.

Why are we so blind?

Posted by: former liberal WF at December 16, 2004 3:13 PM

Who are the media?

Once again, and perhaps more brilliantly than ever before, Spencer has given us a chance to show our fellows the true nature of Islam--in its own words.

Once again I urge that one person among us who has the computer skill I lack to make a one page hand-out we can give to our friends and neighbors and community members. I repeat myself, and to those sick of it, I appologize fror the repetition; however, I still firmly believe that action is preferable to inaction, and that in time we will gain momentum if only I continue to pound the same drumbeat to get us tapping our feet and in time even to march to the beat of this different and oddly measured far away thump:

A one-page hand-out. turn it sideways, landscape setting.

On the left column, insert from Google Images "Bomber Baby."

In the middle coulmn, insert excerpts from the above Moslem hate rant.

In the right-hand column, explain briefly what the context is, and at the bottom include a referal to this site; include a contact address for yourself; and include a message that you will meet for coffee on a Tuesday evening at McDonald's to explain more about this.

If you will, leaflet in your neighborhood. Stick the sheet in the mailboxes in your community. Totally ignore those who are hostile. Forget those who aren't commited to this struggle right now. Take the cream of this crop. Encourage them to become involved at this site and with you personally as community activists.

Set up a Sunday meeting at 2:00 pm in front of a convenient location to pass out the leaflet we have. Set up with those interested a meeting for Tuesday night at 7:00 at McDonald's.

Each Monday morning when you sit down to write here, give a post-mortem on the success and failure of your Sunday outing so others can learn from your experiences and you from ours.

Connect with your community. Make friends.

If someone will provide a page I can print from the computer, a page I can slide under doorways and put into mailboxes, I'll add my own details to the bottom, and on Sunday I'll spend two hours handing out 50 sheets to passers-by. On Monday I'll let you know what happened, and on Tuesday I'll meet with anyone who cares to show up for coffee in a public place to talk.

The following Saturday, with a new theme, such as the story of Aisha to print up, I'll contact anyone who is left from Tuesday to join me in passing out leaflets on Sunday at 2:00.

If many people do this in co-ordination, well, it becomes instantly a world-wide movement, and we are the media that makes it possible. We are those who deliver the message. We are the media.

If this is a poor idea or one that can't happen for some reason, I'd like to know so I can quit repeating an idea that is simply no good.

Spencer creates each day a powerhouse, and we are the energy he produces. We must be focused to achieve any goal at all. If our goal is to spread the message of the danger of Islam, then let us take up our positions as the media.

We have a message. Let the world know.

We ARE the media.

Posted by: sonofwalker at December 16, 2004 3:31 PM

Without indoctrination this whole Islamic belief system would fall apart. Death for converts to another religion, the fear of roasting in hell for not attacking infidels, the idiotic promise of 72 virgins and 24 boys in 'paradise' instead of having a meaningful relationssip with a female while alive here and now:

All of that (and more) can only hold together with constant and incessant brainwashing exercises, prayer 5 times a day, hatespeeches and the cultivation of an 'under siege' mentality.

Posted by: Terminator at December 16, 2004 4:51 PM

We ARE the media.

Posted by: sonofwalker at December 16, 2004 03:31 PM

HOPE THIS HELPS!!

STUPIDITY:

Bukhari:V6B61N550 “The Prophet said, ‘It is a bad thing some of you say, “I have forgotten such-and-such verse of the Qur’an.” For truly, I have been caused by Allah to forget it. So you must keep on reciting the Qur’an because it escapes faster than a runaway camel.’”

Tabari I:299 “Scholars of the nation of our Prophet say, ‘The tree which Allah forbade Adam and his spouse to eat was wheat.’”

Tabari I:321 “When Eve became heavy with her first pregnancy, Satan came to her before she gave birth and said, ‘Eve, what is that in your womb?’ She said, ‘I do not know.’ He asked, ‘Where will it come out from-your nose, your eye, or your ear?’ She replied, ‘I do not know.’”

Tabari I:299 “It was the cover of fingernails that had kept their secret parts concealed.”

Tabari I:275 “Satan wanted to meet them in Paradise, but the keepers prevented him from entering. He went to a snake, an animal with four feet like a camel. Satan tried to persuade it to let him enter its mouth and take him to Adam. The snake agreed, passed by the keepers, and entered without their knowledge, because that was Allah’s plan.”

Tabari I:278 “Adam went inside the tree to hide. Eve cut the tree and it bled. Then feather that covered Adam and Eve dropped off. So Allah said, ‘Now Eve, as you caused the tree to bleed, you will bleed every new moon, and you, snake, I will cut off your feet and you will walk slithering on your face.’”

Tabari I:279 “It was a tree which made whoever ate from it defecate. But there must be no faeces in Paradise.”

Tabari I:281 “I heard him swear by Allah unequivocally, ‘As long as Adam was in his right mind, he would never have eaten from the tree. Eve gave him wine and got him drunk. She led him to the tree.”

Tabari I:267 “And Allah taught Adam all the names as follows: He taught him the name of everything, down to fart and little fart.”
Bukhari:V1B4N137 “Allah’s Apostle said, ‘The prayer of a person who does Hadath (passes urine, stool or wind) is not accepted till he performs ablution.’”

Bukhari:V1B4N139 “I asked Allah’s Apostle about a person who imagined they passed wind during prayer. He replied: ‘He should not leave his prayer unless he hears sound or smells something.’”

Bukhari:V1B4N156 “The Prophet said, ‘Whenever anyone makes water he should not hold his penis or clean his private parts with his right hand. While drinking, one should not breathe in the utensil.’”

Bukhari:V1B4N163 “The Prophet said, ‘Whoever cleans his private parts with stones should do it with an odd number of stones. And whoever wakes up should wash his hands before putting them in the water for ablution. Nobody knows where his hands were during sleep.’”

Bukhari:V1B4N174 “During the lifetime of Allah’s Apostle dogs used to urinate and pass through the mosque. Nevertheless they never used to sprinkle water on it.”

Tabari I:367 “The Apostles said to Jesus, ‘Would you send us a man who saw the ark and could tell us about it.’ He took a handful of the earth in his palm and asked, ‘Do you know what this is?’ ‘Allah and His prophet know best!’ they replied. Jesus said, ‘This is the grave of Noah’s son, Ham.’ He struck the hill with his staff and said, ‘Rise with Allah’s permission!’ And behold there was Ham, with gray hair, shaking the earth from his head. Jesus asked him whether he had perished in that state with gray hair. Ham replied, ‘No when I died, I was a young man, but I thought the Day of Doom had come, and my hair turned gray.’ Jesus said, ‘Tell us about Noah’s ark.’ He said, ‘It was 1,200 cubits long [nearly 4,000 feet] and 600 cubits wide. It had three stories, one for domestic and wild animals, another for human beings, and a third for birds. When the dung of the animals became excessive, Allah inspired Noah to tickle the elephant’s tail. He did, and a male and female hog fell down and attacked the dung. When the rat fell down into the seams of the planks of the ark and gnawed at them, Allah inspired Noah to strike the lion between its eyes and a male and female cat came out from its nose and attacked the rat.’”

Tabari I:360 “The first animal to be put aboard was the ant, and the last the donkey. When Noah brought the donkey in, Lucifer attached himself to its tail, so that it could not lift its legs. Noah started to say, ‘Woe to you. Go in.’ The donkey rose but was unable to move. Noah said, ‘Woe to you. Go in even if Satan is with you.’ It was a slip of the tongue, but when Noah said it, Satan let the donkey proceed. It went in, and Satan went in with it. Noah said, ‘How did you get in here with me?’ Satan replied, ‘You cannot escape from having me on board. Satan stayed in the rear of the boat. Noah also carried along Adam’s corpse, making it a barrier between the women and men.”

Tabari II:106 “Allah sent gnats against the Babylonians, and they ate their flesh and drank their blood, and nothing but their bones were left. But Allah gave Nimrod a single gnat which entered his nostril and went on beating the inside of his head with hammers for four hundred years. The most merciful of his friends was he who bunched up his hands and beat Nimrod’s head with them.”

Tabari II:107 “Nimrod vowed to seek out Abraham’s God. So he took four eagle fledglings and nurtured them on meat and wine so that they grew up tough and strong. Then he tied them to a chest and sat in it. He suspended a piece of meat over them and they flew up trying to reach it. When they had risen high in the sky, Nimrod looked down and beheld the earth. He saw the mountains crawling below like creeping ants. When they had risen still higher he looked and saw the earth with a sea surrounding it. After climbing still higher, he came into a region of darkness and could not see what was above him nor what was below him. He became frightened and threw the meat down. The eagles followed it, darting downward. When the mountains saw them coming near and heard their noise, they became afraid and almost moved from their places, but did not do so. As Allah says in the Qur’an, ‘Verily they have plotted their plot, and their plot is with Allah, even if their plot were one whereby the mountains should be moved.’”

Tabari II:78 “And everything that heard him-stones, trees, hills, and dust said, ‘Here I am, my Allah, here I am.’”

Tabari II:99 “Abraham was tested with ten Islamic practices: rinsing the mouth, cleansing nostrils with water, trimming the mustache, using a toothstick, plucking the armpit, paring nails, washing finger joints, circumcision, shaving pubic hair, and washing the rear and vulva.”

Qur’an 2:138 “(Our religion is) the Baptism of Allah: And who can baptize better than Allah?”

Tabari VI:21 “Qusayy purchased the custodianship of the Ka’aba for a skin full of wine and a lute.”

Bukhari:V4B55N585 “‘O Allah’s Apostle! Which mosque was first built on the surface of the earth?’ He said, ‘The mosque Haram in Mecca.’ ‘Which was built next?’ He replied ‘The mosque of Al-Aqsa in Jerusalem.’ ‘What was the period of construction between the two?’ He said, ‘Forty years.’”

Tabari VI:66 “Umar said, ‘By Allah I was by one of the idols of the Jahiliyyah. An Arab sacrificed a calf to it, and we were waiting for it to be divided up in order to receive a share. I heard coming from the belly of the calf a voice which was more penetrating than any I’ve heard. The dead calf’s belly said, ‘There is no ilah but Allah.’”

Ishaq:85 “The people were afraid to demolish the temple and withdrew in terror from it. Al-Walid said, ‘I will begin the demolition.’ He took up his pickaxe and walked up to Allah’s House saying, ‘O Ka’aba, do not be afraid. O Allah we intend nothing but good.’ The he demolished part of it near the two corners.”

Bukhari:V4B54N52 “The Prophet said, ‘Kill the snake with two white lines on its back, for it blinds the onlooker and causes abortion.’”

Tabari VI:75 “‘Messenger, how did you first know with absolute certainty that you were a prophet?’ He replied, ‘Two angels came to me while I was somewhere in Mecca…. One angel said, “Open his breast and take out his heart.” He opened my chest and heart, removing the pollution of Satan and a clot of blood, and threw them away. Then one said, “Wash his breast as you would a receptacle.” He summoned the Sakinah, which looked like the face of a white cat, and it was placed in my heart. Then one said, “Sew up his breast.” So they sewed up my chest and placed the seal between my shoulders.’”

Qur’an 33:69 “Believers, be not like those who annoyed Moses. Allah proved his innocence of that which they alleged.”

Bukhari:V4B55N616 “Allah’s Apostle said, ‘The Prophet Moses was a shy person and used to cover his body. An Israeli insulted him, saying, “He covers it because of some defect like leprosy or scrotal hernia.” Allah wished to clear Moses of this allegation, so one day he took off his clothes, put them on a stone and started taking a bath. When he moved towards his clothes the stone took them and fled. Moses picked up his staff and ran after the stone saying, “O stone! Give me back my clothes!” He reached some Israelis who saw him naked, and found him to be the best of what Allah had created. The stone stopped there and Moses took his garments and started hitting the stone with his stick. By Allah, the stone still has some traces of the hitting, three, four or five marks. This was what Allah meant when he revealed the surah saying: “Believers! Be you not like those who annoyed Moses. Allah proved his innocence of that which they alleged.”’”

Bukhari:V7B71N643 “I heard the Prophet saying, ‘If anyone of you dreams something he dislikes, when you get up, blow thrice on your left.’”

Bukhari:V9B87N115 “If you spit on the left side of your bed the bad dream will not harm you.”

Bukhari:V6B60N373 “The Prophet explained, ‘Paradise and Hell argued…. Allah said to the Hell Fire, “You are my (means of) punishment by which I torment whoever I wish of my slaves. You will have your fill. As for the Fire, it will not be filled until I put My Foot over it.’”

Bukhari:V7B71N590 “The climate of Medina did not suit some people so the Prophet ordered them to drink camel urine as a medicine.”

Bukhari:V7B71N592 “I heard Allah’s Apostle saying, ‘There is healing in black cumin for all diseases except death.’”

Bukhari:V7B71N673 “Allah’s Apostle said, ‘If a fly falls in your drink, dip all of it into the cup and then throw it away, for in one of its wings there is a disease and in the other there is healing, an antidote or treatment for that disease.’”

Qur’an 49:12 “Spy not behind the backs of others. Would any of you like to eat the flesh of his dead brother?”

Ishaq:565 “The Apostle sent Khalid to destroy the idol Al-Uzza in the lowland of Nakhlah. The Quraysh used to venerate her temple. When Sulami heard of Khalid’s approach, he hung his sword on Al-Uzza, climbed a mountain, and shouted: ‘O Uzza, make an annihilating attack on Khalid. Throw aside your veil and gird up your train. O Uzza, if you do not kill Khalid then bear a swift punishment or become a Christian.’ When Khalid arrived he destroyed her and returned to the Apostle.”

Tabari VIII:187 “‘I have destroyed it,’ he said to Muhammad. ‘Did you see anything?’ ‘No.’ ‘Then,’ Muhammad said, ‘go back and kill her.’ So Khalid returned to the idol. He destroyed her temple and broke her graven image. The shrine’s keeper began saying, ‘Rage, O Uzza, display one of your fits of rage!’ Whereupon a naked, wailing Ethiopian woman came out before him. Khalid killed her and took the jewels that were on her. Then he went back to Allah’s Messenger and gave him a report. ‘That was Al-Uzza,’ Muhammad said. ‘Al-Uzza will never be worshiped again.’”

Bukhari:V1B3N68 “Muhammad used to take care of us in preaching by selecting a suitable time, so that we might not get bored. He abstained from pestering us with sermons and knowledge.”

Muslim:B40N6837 “Allah’s Messenger delivered an address, mentioning a camel and a bad person who cut off its hind legs, reciting: ‘When the basest of them broke forth with mischief.’ He then delivered instruction saying: ‘There are amongst you those who beat their women. They flog them like slave girls. Then after flogging them like slaves they comfort them in their beds as a result at the end of the day.’ He then advised in regard to people laughing at the breaking of wind and said: ‘You laugh at that which you yourself do.’”

Bukhari:V3B33N254 “Satan circulates in human beings as blood flows in our bodies.”

Tabari II:121 “Gabriel spread out his wings and gouged out their eyes. Gabriel seized Sodom’s girdle, snatching it up so high into the sky the angels could hear their dogs. He threw rocks at the laggards, one after the other. There were three towns called Sodom that lay between Medina and Syria. It has been mentioned that there were four million people in the town.”

Qur’an 79:1 “I swear by those (angels) who violently tear out (the souls), and drag them forth to destruction, by those who gently take out, by those meteors rushing by, swimming along (angels or planets), and by those who press forward as in a race (the angels, or stars, or horses [the translators added, clueless as to what “god” was trying to say]), and by those who regulate the affair.”

Bukhari:V7B71N665 “The Prophet said, ‘No contagious disease is conveyed without Allah’s permission.’” Bukhari:V4B54N484 “I heard the Prophet saying, ‘Fever is from the heat of the Hell Fire.’”

Bukhari:V8B77N616 “Allah’s Apostle said, ‘Plague is a means of torture which Allah sends upon whom-so-ever He wishes.’”

Qur’an 38:17 “We endued Our slave David with power. It was We who subdued the hills to sing Our praises with him at nightfall. And the birds were assembled, all obedient to him.”

Qur’an 89:6 “Saw you not how your Lord dealt with [the mythical] Ad, possessors of lofty buildings, the likes of which were not produced in all the land?”

Qur’an 91:11 “Thamud rejected (their prophet) through inordinate wrong-doing. Behold, the most-wicked wretch among them broke forth but the Messenger said: ‘Be cautious. It is a She-camel of Allah! And bar her not from having her drink!’ But they rejected him as a false prophet and hamstrung her. So Allah on account of their crime, obliterated their traces, doomed them, desolated their dwellings, leveling them to the ground for their sin.”

Qur’an 78:37 “The Lord with Whom they cannot dare to speak, none can converse with Him, none are able to address Him.”

Qur’an 86:13 “Lo this (Qur’an) is a conclusive Word; it is not a thing for amusement. It is no pleasantry. And it is no joke.”

tHAT SHOULD WORK FOR THIS WEEK IN A GOOD MOOD AND NEED SOME LAUGHS TODAY!!

I LOVE YOUR IDEA AND HAVE ALREADY DONE SO SOME PEOPLE DON'T NEED TO TALK SO MUCH THOUGH DOES NOT MEAN THEY WILL NOT BE THERE WHEN NEEDED??

BUYING A GUN AND AMMO IS THE FRIST ORDER OF BUSINESS!!

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God Bless the USA and her Fighting Forces and ALL who Fight with her give them Strength,Wisdom,Sight and Courage to stay the course to Victory to Defeat ALL Islamic Terrorist and ALL who Support them Open the Worlds Eyes to their Threat Amen

PS
Sonof walker hope that helped

PSS
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Posted by: Catherine at December 16, 2004 6:02 PM

That still doesn't tell me WHO separated us from God? Why would Allah have to prove himself if he were God?

Posted by: Chu-Pit-it-sta-ka at December 16, 2004 6:25 PM

I shall not give my pearls to swine who are like the unbelievers?

“Odes to Pharaoh
in the
Oil Pig Era.”

Preludes to the Apocalypse,
Epoch I-III
And the
The Apocalypse

In honor and respect for the Red & White and the Red & Blue!

By the Grim Reaper

Prelude to the Apocalypse
Odes to Pharaoh in the Oil Pig Era
By the Grim Reaper, because from what I reap is pretty grim.
Epoch I, of III
By Denise Miller

Delight doth my Pharaoh I see in my mind’s eye –how’s thy plight, as allotments were placed in names of the just - what destiny of battle today do we trust? Everything is wrong, dead or almost gone! They’re all turned to spirits, but we live on while trust-fund management has its great day! What shall befall mankind in place of this trust: Death, Wrath or Envy or a Medal of Rust? So who wants these medals in place of the earth?
For mighty warriors the angels do battle, in skies of invisible borders where gold doesn’t matter. Saints live on but know not the Pharaoh, Archangels hold steadfast awaiting the call; the war was for good then evil then ever, while Pharaoh visits tribunals for war- crimes upon the just while blood still dripping from Old Glory and no one but Pharaoh tells the story!
Yet not in sight – His Chariot of fire one-day will halt upon earth, then the bloody red flag shall no longer be cursed! Sleep little dead ones just for a little longer, while we prepare the stage for the World’s final battle. Hit snooze once more, Stay sleep in the earth, thou shall see what befell thy place of thy birth: thy sweet home, once called Earth. We wait and wait what a dreadful day cursed–Still NO one comes to drive the big hurse. All are asleep by the Gentile curse – while the First Borns tell them that they were cursed first!
Who Knows! All are Dead! Asleep or Weep – who could lead this Campaign – Pale Chrome Rider sings? Here’s to you – Sweet Pharaoh, Southern Sovereign Son, there’s a chariot of fire rolling thunder he sings, it runs ore the horizon like a big red ring! Tis thunder and lighting they left in this place for this curse, for this trust fund and lust of the earth, left to die in the rust, for the lust of the lost and the blood of the cursed. Old glory still ringing, yet no-one now singing, covet not old sacred spirits Fire, Wind, Lightning, Thunder and Sea: your only killing for your mother, will they ever see?
Hell’s Bells ringing, the Mighty Chariot of Fire Roars and Halts to the earth with only white noise hardly detectable by earth. One he steps off, with roaring he walks, like windblown fires, each step doth he takes, demeanor as thunder as lighting devours. Old Gold person burning, yet not even screaming, fires go through him: Tis Reaper of God! Who ever knew, that the “Reaper,” came as a soldier of God! Now what does he want – life, death, or the matter? Reaper asks the Pharaoh, “What befell mankind to brake sacred trust in the place of our birth, in the name of the Father?” Pharaoh replied, “In place of trust they turned to their lust and sacrificed earth? Reaper asked, “What ever even happened to the Golden Rule, No one kept it or no one knew?” Pharaoh sadly answered, They bought it and sold it for the Red, White and Blue?”
Pharaoh conversed to Reaper this way for a moment then asked, “What doth toll Reaper’s fee today?” “All things are gone what doth my fee matter?” said Reaper to he. Pharaoh he tells Reaper all is not CHAOS and earth does too matter, trust-fund management shall have its’ dog day! Pharaoh delegates Reaper’s campaign this way, for the sake of this Blessed day. Pharaoh kept it, in spite of the pain, kept all this time he doth refrain, kept it for Reaper and this Cursed Day’s pay. Pharaoh gives Reaper his task, “Rid this curse upon the earth - leave only the truth, Pharaoh said to the Reaper “Leave that one, that one only “Constant ”that one only Matter: They need a real liar to assign Reaper’s power.
Pharaoh said to the Reaper “Leave that one, that one only one, the “Matter of Truth” if there be stead of Earth. We shall go on to portray Death’s Wedding Shower. Rude people go on and see what’s the matter, awaken by Satan the tares take oft as they try to change their colors! Only the worth of truth does it matter? The elements shall melt when Hell’s Bells begin ringing. For this Bono of Friendship extends cross the matter. Pharaoh joins Reaper for the pleasurable harvest of the evil Gentile. Get ready to wake the sleeping dead, for they shall see the great final battle and all from their kind, loving, warm Father’s shadow!

From Archangel, Reaper
Epoch II
Ode to Pharaoh, My hero in war of the sovereign, I pray your safe return to my door My Famed Pawnee Warrior, of Indian Law and Policy! Yeah, I say, Reaper was born to tell this forlorn love story and execute this “Writ of Habeas Corpus,” to expedite this federal dog’s day. For thou art themselves what they so feared the Bloody Gentile with his freedom capitalist democracy, the "Anti-Christ." It’s own enemy planted beside it. Viper of sin, abomination of Heaven is this dominion of earth. But we will ride back to the Garden Soon Pharaoh. But first things come first.

TO THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT:

ALL STATES UNDER YOUR JURISDICTION RESIDING, NEXT TO, ADJACENT, OR LIE WITHIN ANY CHECKERBOARD JURISDICTIONAL BOUNDARY - HAVE THIRTY DAYS TO FIND A NEW LOCATION.

LET IT BE KNOWN HERE AND ABROAD WE FIGHT THIS WAR WITH THE UNITED STATES TO DEFEND US, NOT THEM.

THE INDEGINOUS PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES OF NORTH AMERICA CANADA, & MEXICO WISH YOU WERENT HERE.

Hell’s Bells toll to alert The Archangel Reaper and protect this last drop with blood as my witness, woe to this Pagan’s Price you know no shame. For what you kill, your Supreme Courts rule.

This Anglo came killing; all life lies behind him for no apparent reason, except that he killed because he was winning. Created his own church to kill, steal and destroy. The fed’s and states wait for tribe’s genocide so Gentiles can save themselves. While they abort their drunken unwanted baby Gentiles. Love doesn’t matter he craves to devour. The Reaper’s Chariot of Fire is warming up just to visit the minds and the spirits in Satan’s domain. To execute, subpoena, and summons Capitalist Judges in the Oil Pig Era. The lawyers don’t care they don’t know what’s the matter they come to sell their souls for these pitiful judges and cant make their bale cause gold doesn’t matter.

Therefore, this 31st day of October, All Souls Day of the 2003rd year of our Lord, in the Eternal Supreme War Court, from Vortex to Hades, comes the Mighty Pharaoh of Ursula Major Plains, Attorney General and Prosecutor for the realm of earth and plane of the devil, capitalists and warmongers shall have fair trial in the tribunal war court and judgment shall befall these war crimes of earth. So don’t try to lie like you do on earth, for this Judge has seen right through you since your first birth.

To the United States of America, One nation under God, Hereby file this Writ of Habeas Corpus, as a direct affect of opinions granted in Oliphant, Montana, Strate, Hicks, and Atkinson Trading Co., in honor of all Souls of American Veterans and Indigenous people of earth who believed you. Now, comes Attorney General Pharaoh with the Writ filed to the Appellate Judge of the Supreme Court of Earth and if guilty punishable by eternal damnation. Hereby the pale moonlight the Reaper posts notice of the writ to defend the honor of the indigenous and American Veterans who for the sake of capitalism committed genocide of my children and forsaken the care of the earth. Angel Reaper rides – big sickle swooshing like wind blown fire, singing this blues song.

Reaper shall fill the barn with out prejudice. He’ll fuel the fire with bushes and brothels of Mean Mongols bitches, whatever it takes so the Gentiles will know Hell’s Kitchen. Those without souls will appease Grandpa Fire. Toll: Hells Death Bells for Satan’s evil triplets: Kills, Steals and Destroys. War crime tribunals shall expedite transition.

The Reaper has no know preference or affiliation with any race of people He has an equal opportunity employer no racial discrimination will not be tolerated. Reaper will kill anyone regardless of race, religion or creed. The Great Judge himself, only knows whether the soul be free, slave, gentile,weed, wheat or sheep. So please don’t ask Reaper, if you’re a weed or wheat – Reaper doesn’t care just sent to reap harvest for the final war crimes tribunal.

O’ Great White Father” protectorate sow, wilt thou ever give up, and let US go? What are you protecting? Now, old prisoners of war, weigh the defense of the protectorate, five hundred years of genocide, now more? For your Capitalist gain how long will thou last. While we store treasure in heaven your insure it on earth. What you write is not true and what you say you do not do. Anglo’s relieve themselves with guilt through and through with tourism, but not give up this protectorate status, he will not resign or admit they could not kill us. So what if he gains all this that we pain, yet loose this great love. What a low person, the machine will get hotter.

Leader of the free world, Are you the antichrist, the speaker of your house Grandmaster of bubba he resigns from this lowlife gentile of his birth. Yet even the Klan knew to heckle the masses! Now, how does it feel to be Gentile at least? Inspiration of Hitler, gate-keeper Poll Pot. You chose your industry over your son’s own lives and now you wage war for rumors for the evil axis of earth is it for oil our place of our birth? Your the same as Hussein to this Indian’s birth you call it what you want and live the way you want created your own church, gods judges and lawyers. Poor infidels, Satan’s seed all grown up you act like the Anti-Christ, preaching your curse. Everyone else on the earth is already praying. You should have stayed in your first Roman church. O’ Great false positive – cant wait to hear the Tribunal War Court of earth. Not to hear your petition or plea, but to get rid this evil forever on earth.

The American Indian sees you and we know who you are. The more money you take for the realm of the devil? You don’t even know the history of blood on this Flag of our Nation. With bones, blood and souls you fill heaven with sorrow and cross the blood lines of the Holy Sea.

Tribes persevere with the Inspector General, (OIG) genocide, too and Nomads matter. Nations in heaven weep with joy for this day when Reaper will ride with the Sun and this work shall be done. Tis a shame, to all go this way.... Prisoners of War live under the gun, yet the sovereigns fight in wars with none. The ones with no souls whose killing rules rule they know no better, they broke the Golden Rule.

Here in the good ole days of the American Indian genocidal mission – we strive with self-determination, for self-sufficiency and 638 contracts, while states meet together and congress’s deficits get bigger. America why torture your children, with your sick alcohol and unwanted baby Gentile. Your children own our land: was it money you paid or just lead in their head, your laws got you trapped, awaiting a number that comes up like your oil and your rusted trust reform.

Satan doesn’t care ENRON lost his 401K, bow all he wants is to cover his gray–go to Vegas and play for his money. Watching the floor, hoping it will drop to give up its oil, and bloody methane, to bale his states grace, in his desert of reign. Hoping this genocide will last and fool the rest hoping the. Indians won’t last. But they really don’t care cause they got their own gas besides they won at the casino at last. The bull isn’t budging and the bear is now grumbling as the eagle has a bond on its neck instead, the states say hurry tribes die, while they fret for their money and sigh.

Indians persevere not knowing what’s the matter to repurchase their lands under USDA. Their blood quantum’s dying but keeps striving in spite for this love doth it the matter. In the land of their birth, with thunder and lightning their blood knows who killed them. Now, they await by the river with Styx, by a big bay of pigs where oil spills go. Oil pigs as well as their era will soon be aglow.

The capitalist ji-had has been denied? The United Nations –will not go along. Yet, the infidels don’t listen they know what’s best buying themselves presents while Levon and Jesus make atomic bombs all day. The aftermath of war tribunes will show this holocaust as Judgment awaits execution, Pharaoh prepares his deposition to the War’s Tribunal Court. After the deposition is filed, Grim Reaper sets off to post this sad curse.

Rules and Regulations of the World War Tribunal Court
All cases will be arraigned in the Court of Hades, with Judge God Almighty Fire, Attorney General of Hades, Pharaoh of the Ancestral Plains; Your Attorney is Joshua Bon Joseph, aka: Jesus. If you cannot afford this attorney one will be appointed to you, his name is Judas. Court attendees are Pokey and Horney who have horns, tails and carry a pitchfork they like to speed things up.

Appeals can be made at the Court of Antioch were docket schedules for World War Crimes against the earth are posted and are being held against the Anti-Christ.

Anything to do with religion will not be tolerated- except if your Catholic you may move to the second line where your out-of-purgatory cards are ready. Take off for Purgatory is expected for late arrival due to firestorms near the runway.

If you’re a weed you’ll be burned with the infidels - if you’re a self-proclaimed Saint please step to the third line for background check.

Hitler and German Nazis’ will be given amnesty because the United States did the same to the American Indians. If affiliated with capitalism in anyway you will also be judged by your grandfather’s sins. Where they lied, they’ll shall fry.

To the poor of the USSR, who tolerated such a corrupt government as the American Indian, Salutations: you were also the most feared enemy besides us, the American Indian.

If your Islam, Moslem, Israel or Palestinian, you may be asked to join the Judge in his chamber If American Indians stop killing themselves with alcohol and suicide they will live forever and inherit the earth.

In spite, of their unknowing sincere greediness, there are some good Caucasians, true to their selves with no pun intended. Here on earth, Hell’s Mighty Angels, the martyrs of earth. They fought all the battles and left their feet in their boots, for this cursed hell is the land of your birth. Fortunate son, you will be considered in the eye of redemption instead of the infidels who put you in prison They think their exempt, but you may be forgiven just living one way instead in all that gray.

All Euro-Anglo Citizens who still practice Catholicism please go to the fourth window to obtain their purgatory cards redeemable in Purgatory. If there are any Democrats in the house please take your last IRS statement to receive your redemption and purgatory card. For every dollar you gave when you agreed with Ronald Reagan you will be reimbursed ten-fold in Purgatory. For Republicans who have never changed their political registry since 1980 please proceed directly to the Gates of Hell, where Satan shall interview you for his geo-thermal energy consultant, still trying to buy his way out.

Now, Great Burning Bush of Hell goes to war for his way of life, blood, methane and oil. His judges favor his genocide plight dependent on favors for his mistakes and states. O Great White Father, he sells reserves, we go to defend the sovereign, but have to agree with Bin Laden.

EPOCH III
Once upon a time in the land of Nod, where the apple was picked from the garden- the devil tried to rule, over creation, and all that was good. He made big iron machines and chased and killed every living thing that he seen. From all living creatures in the ground to the last beautiful Eagle in the air. He killed and he killed, all he could see, and all with his big flying iron machines. So long ago, before the ice age, before the mountains peeked out their big shadows, and way before the waters of Noah this devil was there and God told him to go to hell. God said, "Stay there and rule your cruel killing-fields. But, he never listens just goes on cause of his killing.

When he could kill it made him feel bigger, so he made big killing machines and chased and killed every living thing. He killed all he could see, with theses big Iron machines, some looked like butterflies, some like a sting-rays, some glowed like a diamond or a star, or a ruby. And some were just big an fancy and round. The sky looked as an ocean with his metal killing beasts. He brutally killed with a way no one could kill.

In the mean time, while Satan was killing, God saved two of everything living, He put them on a planet in a time called Ought. While he left the devil who thought he was winning. God tried to see just how far this killer would go. When Satan killed that last beautiful eagle on the other planet with his iron machines God took that eagles mate to another earth because she had a nest of eaglets. God let them fall out of the nest and onto the earth and that is where Indians come from. They fell out of the nest as babies and they crawled around and looked for things to get into. The animals, God told to watch over the baby Indians, keep them warm and let them play. And that is why the Indians love the animals so much today. They never knew that great mighty power, but they knew He was their father and loved the earth and they loved their Father.

About the beginning of time, in a land called “Ought” a tiny crab crawled out of the devil's triangle, up to the grass and on to a rock. He was welcomed by this Indian girl and treated very fine, this tiny crab, he came to this land he heard called America. He came on the ship that sailed with Columbus. He came through the 'Black hole' and landed in the devils triangle. He floated up and caught hold on the ship. Satan's evil legions follow like beer and wine spirits they walk into people of the earth, enter in and leave again and if that one’s born again he may leave for a while but comes back for temptation’s won. Life goes on and sometimes we're forgiven, but sometimes that one Satan's won.. This greed of gold, money and power, the root of all evil and Satan's evil power. Watching their big bear bull market wearing those ties that bind those big chains. If only could tell what Satan doesn't know and what God does know would it seem to matter? Only we know it's worth the pain and the awaiting Reign.

When this crab crawled on this rock, Plymouth Rock it was, this devil you knew and he knew too these Indians where different. So, he hid his shape, came with the spirits of Columbus, when his first world ended, this little crab crawled out of that last great eagle's mouth. And for all that killing that was only as big as he got – the size of a lice on the head of Columbus. That devil didn’t care he could change his size, to those he entered in and won for sins, he killed and he killed and he could enter in, and most now reside in the hearts of politicians.

The Indian girl found this lie out and felt so bad for this befriend she made, she asked her Father to avenge this death and told Him why, where and what this devil did. The girl by then a woman was told by her Father, ok little woman you can tell that ole damn bug, he better quit killing, and destroying for money and gold, for earths molten lava awaits his demise. If you don’t stop these wars for money, oil and the Gentile brew, the earth will cave in molten lava on you. But if you go on like you’re winning, killing and killing, all the animals destroyed along with their land and made things not kosher for the Moslems and Jews with your old oil pig. We'll melt this ice age and flood the plains, clear the land, drain the oceans, because these old spirits of earth knew not, why your where killing for this Gentile. “Gather wheat Reaper and burn them damn weed, in the the Gehenna of Gehenna – as this generation is the worst of the curse. You should have stored your treasures in Heaven in instead of insured them on the earth. Your not in this place winning instead it’s the Pawnee Nation give back these things of the earth. Burn the weeds in the lake of fire recently known as Old Faithful. Separate from tribes in spite of your ungodliness curse and we have to pay taxes for your federal genocide policy. This place of my fire place of life and the Pawnee passageway of death all for the land of the lost and states with no God for the lust of Satan’s desert, on this horse with no name.

The will of the Father and the golden rule will rule ore Atlantis and pick up the pieces, no more crying and dying to care for our loved ones and cherish creations. We shall pray all day or night if we want, the Moslems could pray five times a day, if they want it that way. For all those who lived, died, and prayed on the earth, doth toll Hell’s Bells. How long does it take to save this Gentile? You only see Jesus on Sunday and Wednesday, some not atoll, but believe your so right you kill to drink your nasty alcohol make more unwanted, baby Gentile.

Toll Hell’s Bell, Great Warrior of Heaven set the stage for this final worlds battle, please come avenge quickly, creations injustice of a power drunken oil, bloody gentile. How long shalt thou judgest and not let You, Creator of Heaven animals, rocks, all life wants to praise You. While we await salvation in place of creation to keep Gentiles from eternal damnation for the name of the freedom and the sake of religion.

Hold sleep in death a little while longer, be patient a little longer till their all gone, Reaper and Justice shall be here soon not another day sooner or generation too soon. Atlantis will come back and in place of confusion, and two golden crabs will be placed in the Big White House as the way you look here in the oil pig era. And our children shall always know and remember you and you'll never fool the race of man, nor beast, nor game again, and that will be when Cancer Dies.

From Blood, land, oil, to money, from what I reap is pretty grim.
Signed: The Grim Reaper AKA: Archangelrpr

The morale:
“Never build a country by treaty, in the name of GOD then separate it from God in States. This was God’s Sacred Trust, and in honor of the Pawnee, (who are still trying to believe in you) this jurisdiction remains - trust.

“America is Great, because America is Good.
If America ever ceases to be Good, it will cease to be Great!“

Posted by: Chu-Pit-it-sta-ka at December 16, 2004 6:51 PM

In Red Country #1 gift are guns!!

Catherine,
I didn't know that, and I think it's a cause for optimism.
I've got mine.

Posted by: Richard at December 16, 2004 7:06 PM

Let that soak in-the Apocalypse will forthcoming.

Posted by: Chu-Pit-it-sta-ka at December 16, 2004 7:09 PM

No need to fight with gun in the Spriritual realm?

Posted by: Chu-Pit-it-sta-ka at December 16, 2004 7:12 PM

Just trying to help things along with the place of my birth and try to inspire there will be peace on earth! Happy Birthday to Jesus. We are all not infidels in the North American Continent~!

Posted by: Chu-Pit-it-sta-ka at December 16, 2004 7:23 PM

Catherine, it's always my pleasure. Thank you for your seemingly endless swupply of interesting and useful copy. I keep coming back for morfe. I'll actually return to this thread tomoorw to check for late messages, a habit of mine.

Posted by: sonofwalker at December 16, 2004 8:37 PM

Hi folks:

learned something?

Muzzies don't have abstract values like 'love'- they breed for the Jihad!

Their brats will be 'martyrs' and their mothers will be proud of them when they blow among us...

Know your muszzies, know terror! What are we gonna do about it, pay them back in kind? Can we earn their respect by being more cruel then they are?

Posted by: Terminator at December 16, 2004 8:39 PM

Play and Learn, a "How to Hate the Infidel" site, Sesame Street for the Muslims.

I read through much of it. It's all about denigrating and demonizing non-Muslims. We're described as profane, rude, thoughtless, careless, blind, ignorant, oblivious, shallow, etc.

I had to laugh at one section that professed the two most repeated names of Allah are Compassionate and Merciful. Yeah, sure, dream on Muslims! Tell that to the mentally retarded girl who was pimped off by her mother at age 9. How merciful and compassionate is her treatment at the hands of people claiming to be the model of Islamic society?

The success of the Islamics is due to this disgusting brainwashing from day one. They repeatedly tell themselves they're perfect and wonderful and doing the right thing, and eventually they believe it. That's why it's so easy to murder non-Muslims and not feel too badly about it. Easy to rape non-Muslim girls and say they deserve it. Easy to lie to us, subvert and destroy our societies because they've been told to hate us. Sick and evil. Islam is profane.

Posted by: feralee at December 16, 2004 10:04 PM

So Chu-Pit, are you with us or against us? I am totally confused by your post.

Posted by: Carolyn2 at December 16, 2004 10:56 PM

Sonofwalker,i think your idea is not bad at all.
I also think that the american people is not ready yet for the kind of actions you sugest.
I have tried to have a dialogue with friends,coworkers,neighbours,even strangers(on line) and most of them showed no interest,some reluctance for such conversation,some fear,some were even very vocal about me being ignorant,racist,bigoted or islamophobe/xenophobe.
The american people needs to get educated first, about islam,and it needs to be done gradually,starting with the basics. If a person that doesn`t know (much)anything about islam would read any of Hugh`s articles,as exquisite and magnificent as they are,that person would probably forget about the whole thing in less than a few seconds,it will also miss its meaning and message. The best way to start anything significant,is to incite people`s interest in the subject,then to make them take a look at this website.
It will probably take some time until Jihadwatchers will reach a critical mass.....and then we could start to think bigger.

Posted by: adela at December 16, 2004 11:11 PM

One can tell that Harun Yahya wrote the book in question from this page:
http://www.playandlearn.org/Quran/quran4000.htm
The Holy Qur'an
A Meeting with Bibi Fizza
Áyat ul Wiláyah
Áyat ut Tathír
Special Animal in the Service of Mankind - Camel by: Harun Yahya
The Mosquito and Its Extraordinary Adventure by: Harun Yahya
Rain in the Qur'an by: Harun Yahya
Meaning of Surat-Al Asr
**** Moral Values Of The Qur'an by: Harun Yahya ****
Tafseer of Sura Al-Fatiha (Hamd) from the portion of Tafseer-e 'Aam of Jami' al Bayan
Service of the Sacred Mosque and the Idolators
Surah Al-Ikhlas (The Sincerity)
Study of the Qur'an by: Maurice Bucaille

Posted by: markjames at December 16, 2004 11:15 PM

The dutch people are the most liberal in the whole world.
They never took any time to consider the dangers of muslim immigration,they never questioned the building of so many mosques in their neighbourhoods,they never challenged the increasing anti-christian,anti-western mentality and attitude of muslim immigrants....until something dramatic happened,something that changed them overnight:the ritual-murder of Theo Van Gogh.
It was a national tragedy,the dutch will never forget it nor forgive it.
It would take something similar in England,such as the murder of Mr.Bean or David Beckham,for the britons to wake up...or the murder of Mel Gibson,for the americans to wake up,and i hope that such murders will never ever happen.
In normal times,a tragedy such as 9/11 should have triggered an immediate awakening of the american public,but our socialist media and politicians did their best to blame the whole thing on ourselves.
Why wait for another 9/11,why not act before they strike again?!

Posted by: adela at December 16, 2004 11:23 PM

Freedom of speech will soon stop to exist(unless you are a muslim) in France and England.Other western european countries will follow,no doubt, and probably Canada,too.
Any criticism against minorities will be punishable by approx.$4,500 fines and time in jail.
A website such as Jihad Watch would probably be banned.
Are these things really happening,or we`re just in the middle of a nightmare??!!
...TIME TO WAKE UP!

Posted by: adela at December 16, 2004 11:30 PM

'Play and Learn 'originates from Edmonton . The first mosque in Canada was founded here in 1920. The teachings at the mosque have recently been subverted by political Islam thanks to the Saudis.

Posted by: rad at December 16, 2004 11:48 PM

OT - But relevant

UK Action Alert: Bishop Richard Harries of Oxford

On this morning's 'Thought for the Day' on BBC Radio 4 (For those of you not in the UK - this is BBC Radio's flagship current affairs programme) the Bishop of Oxford saw fit to discuss the merits of Turkey joining the EU. With entirely predictable results.

According to him (wait for it) - It's the Christian thing to do! Apparently respect for the 'other' demands it. Oh yes and it would strike fear in the heart of Islamists as it will show them what Islam 'properly understood' really is. Besides, said the bishop, no disconnect whatsoever between Islam and European values.

It is especially the Islam 'properly understood' bit that got me. Besides this 'proper understanding' leading him to ludicrous positions on the effect of Islam on the West; it is just plain arrogance! What he is basically saying is: "I have seen Islam and it is fuzzy, warm and kind. Just like me in fact." No matter that those who study Islam all their lives come to totally different conclusions. I'll be the arbiter. Case closed.

The clincher was that he used Kemal Ataturk's magnanimous statement to mothers of dead allied soldiers after WW1(They are our sons...) as proof of how 'properly understood' Islam looks. No mention of the fact that Ataturk is the 'bogeyman' of the majority of those who claim to 'properly understand' Islam in Turkey.

People (especially those who should know better!) should not be allowed to get away with this kind of insipid nonsense anymore. They either need to be challenged or educated.

Please help me in doing the following:
* Write the Bishop a respectful letter challenging his position.
* Send him a copy of 'Islam unveiled'.

If you want to listen to what he said, you can follow this link (should be updated later today):
http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/programmes/thought/index.shtml
A written version will be added during the next few days, probably also to this own website.

Here is his contact details:
The Rt. Rev. Richard Harris
Bishop of Oxford
Diocesan Church House
North Hinksey
Oxford
Oxon
OX2 0NB

There is also a web form, here:
http://www.oxford.anglican.org/contact.php?PHPSESSID=05a10e9ea3dc559cd4ffa1f4bdd43849
(Select 'Bishop of Oxford')

Please keep letters short, to the point and above all respectful.

Posted by: PJS1 at December 17, 2004 3:44 AM

OT.

Catherine sent this in. It's a good idea.

FYI. Here's a way to help brighten wounded GI's spirits at Walter Reed.
Many of you have requested ways to help the returning wounded from Iraq. I'm sending a recent request received from Walter Reed Army Medical Center.
Bruce G. Nitsche
Veterans Liaison to the Secretary
Department of Veterans Affairs
The number ONE request at Walter Reed hospital is phone cards.
The government doesn't pay long distance phone charges and
these wounded soldiers are rationing their calls home.
Many will be there throughout the holidays.
Really support our troops --Send phone cards of any amount to:
Medical Family Assistance Center
Walter Reed Medical Center
6900 Georgia Avenue, NW
Washington, DC 20307-5001
They say they need an "endless" supply of these -- any amount
is greatly appreciated.
Many of the discount warehouse stores such as Walmart, Costco, BJ's Wholesale, etc. have good prices on phone cards.
Please pass this request on to others.

Posted by: susan_b at December 17, 2004 4:58 AM

Another OT item, but..........................

After reading several post that referrenced Bosnia and Kosvo, a member e-mailed with this question:

Maybe we can answer it. The member is e-mailing from Europe and experienced some of the brutality from Muslims.

He has very legitiment questions. Don't take offense, just remember, he was on the recieving end of these policies and knew it was wrong at the time that we were bombing the Serbs.
---------------------------------------------------
some questions on US intelligence and policies on the
balkans
and I want answers form americans.
What happened ? Are your intelligence services mad? or fool? or idiot?
You
can not make the same mistake for years ! Something is wrong here. I
can not
understand the trend of US policies in the Balkans, why did you back
muslim
fighters and mujahedeens ?

I have no answers, and the answer of a site like emperors cloths is
astounding - the infer the US are making hidden policies and the battle
against terror is just a fake ... could that be true ?

if you have time, and I believe you are devoted to truth in those
matters,
pls dig into the emperors clothes materials over US policies on the
balkans
and toward Israel also ... they are well documented and if only a bit
of it
is true I don't know what to think ...

Posted by: susan_b at December 17, 2004 5:44 AM

This is one of the best articles I could find on the subject in the question raised above:
http://www.balkanpeace.org/hed/archive/july02/hed5089.shtml

antiwar.com, July 11, 2002
"Srebrenica" - Code Word to Silence Critics of US Policy in the Balkans ANTIWAR

by Stella L. Jatras, Special to Antiwar.com

The Bosnian Serb military stand accused of committing some of the worst human rights crimes since World War II during and following the battle for Srebrenica in 1995. HOLOCAUST! GENOCIDE! ETHNIC CLEANSING! Claims of 7,000 (or 8,000, or 10,000, or whatever figure is needed to elicit the desired response) Muslim men and boys slaughtered and Dutch troops accused of failing to stop the slaughter! Five year later the allegations not only persist, but are accepted as fact by a compliant and unquestioning media. Yet in five years fewer than 2000 bodies have been discovered in an area where war raged for four years and even those bodies have not been identified as Muslim or Serb, nor how they died.

Why then has there been a flurry of articles in recent days regarding the alleged massacre of thousands of Bosnian Muslim fighters that occurred over five years ago? Articles such as, "Holbrooke Mourns Srebrenica, urges Reconciliation," (Reuters, 11 July); "The Battle of Srebrenica Is Now Over the Truth," by David Rohde (New York Times, 9 July) and "Harrowing pilgrimage for Srebrenica Muslims," by Rory Carroll (Guardian [London] 12 July), are all spewing their anti-Serb bias.

The Code word is "Srebrenica." Srebrenica equates to holocaust. Srebrenica equates to genocide. Srebrenica equates to ethnic cleansing. And because claims of mass graves and genocide in Kosovo are being discredited, what better way to continue to demonize the Serbs than for the American people to be reminded of Srebrenica? After all, there is still the unfinished business of dismembering Yugoslavia by amputating Montenegro, Sanjak and Vojvodina. The New World Order beast will not be satisfied until its belly is full and that requires the American people to accept NATO´s next intervention in the Balkans; however, the American people must again be prepared mentally to accept more military action just as they accepted 78-days of dropping bombs on an innocent people. They have to be conditioned to say once again, "After all, the Serbs deserve it!"

During his visit to Washington, D.C. to attend a Congressional briefing in the office of Congressman Dennis Kucinich of Ohio on 19 July, I had a chance to speak with former Canadian Ambassador to Yugoslavia, James Bissett, who has been openly critical of his country´s participation in the NATO bombing of Yugoslavia. Last year, he received a phone call from three Dutch military historians who wanted to meet with him to talk about Srebrenica. Ambassador Bissett informed them that he had not been at Srebrenica and could not, therefore, speak as an eyewitness on the subject. However, because of his broad knowledge of the area and the circumstances of the Bosnian War, the Dutch historians still wanted to meet with him. Among other topics, they spoke about Nasir Oric, the dreaded Muslim commander in Srebrenica who had mounted commando raids against surrounding Serbian villages whose remaining population were mainly elderly Serbs, many in their 80s, who refused to leave their homes. Even these poor souls were not spared, but were slaughtered by having their throats slit. Bill Schiller wrote of Oric in the Toronto Star, 16 July 1995, "On a cold and snowy night, I sat in his living room watching a shocking video version of what might had been called Nasir Oric´s Greatest Hits. There were burning houses, dead bodies, severed heads, and people fleeing. Oric grinned throughout admiring his handiwork. ´We ambushed them,´ he said when a number of dead Serbs appeared on the screen. The next sequence of dead bodies had been done in by explosives: ´We launched those guys to the moon,´ he boasted. When a footage of a bullet-marked ghost town appeared without any visible bodies, Oric hastened to announce: ´We killed 114 Serbs there.´ Later there were celebrations, with singers with wobbly voices chanting his praises."

The three Dutch military historians and Ambassador Bissett recalled that Serbian General Radko Mladic has protested the misuse of the so-called "safe haven" of Srebrenica by Oric and warned that continued attacks on surrounding villages would bring a response from the Serbian forces. Forewarned, Oric had pulled his armed troops, including Mujahedin soldiers who had been imported from many of the Islamic countries, out of Srebrenica three days before the final push began. According to the Ambassador, when Serbian General Mladic entered Srebrenica, he entered a city that was mostly devoid of its fighting men. Accused of attacking a "safe haven" by the media and Muslim propaganda, the Serbs were even vilified for putting refugees, mostly women and children, from Srebrenica on buses and sending them to Muslim-held territory. The tragic scenes of the refugees were shown over and over again on TV; yet within a few days, the refugees were seen eating fruit, smoking cigarettes, washing clothes and being housed - thanks to the UN. The Bosnian government refused to provide humanitarian assistance for its own people, preferring that the world see a suffering Muslim population as part of their propaganda ploy.

Tim Butcher of the Daily Telegraph, London (24 July 1995), wrote regarding Srebrenica, "After five days of interviews the United Nations chief investigator into alleged human rights abuses during the fall of Srebrenica has not found any firsthand witnesses of atrocities."

An International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) report, document #37, dated September 13, 1995 states: "Approximately 5,000 Srebrenica Muslim troops left the enclave prior to its fall. The Muslim government has admitted that these men were reassigned to other units of its armed forces. The fact that family members were not informed of it was justified by the obligation to keep it a military secret." The ICRC further reported that there were indications that sporadic clashes broke out between the Muslim soldiers who wanted to stay and fight and other soldiers and civilians who wanted to flee. In some cases, the names of "missing" soldiers are listed as many as two and three times. As previously stated, approximately fewer than 2,000 bodies have been found in graves. Considering that the civil war in Bosnia had lasted over four years, this could not exactly be called a "genocide" when compared to other massacres taking place all over the world such as in Sierra Leone, Rwanda, Zimbabwe, and the Indonesia.

A representative in the Bosnian and Federal Parliaments, Ibran Mustafic, gave an explosive interview on Aug. 15, 1996, to Slobodna Bosnia ("Free Bosnia," A Sarajevo newspaper). Mustafic was quoted as saying that the betrayal of Srebrenica "was consciously prepared and that the Bosnian president and the army command were involved in this business," and that was to sacrifice Srebrenica in order to gain the sympathy of the West. Of his internment in a Serbian jail, he writes, "I should have died. They [the Bosnian Muslim authorities] don´t appreciate living people. They appreciate the dead because they cannot talk."

Of course we must not overlook Pulitzer Prize winner David Rohde, who was given a 15-day sentence for entering into Serbian territory with forged documents. He should thank his lucky stars that he was not captured by Muslim fighters or he would have been just another dead journalist, as was ABC´s producer David Kaplan, who, according to Yossef Bodansky ("Offensive in the Balkans") was out of range of Serbian forces when he was killed. Regardless, Kaplan´s death was blamed on the Serbs. And what earned Mr. Rohde his coveted award? It was based merely on the discovery of "a pair of glasses, a walking stick and a putrefying leg sticking out of the ground," according to his book, "End Game," in an area where men had fought for over three years. Some genocide!

The mind set of U.S. officials who were in charge of "peacekeeping" efforts might best be understood by considering the view of our current U.N. Ambassador, Richard Holbrooke, who spoke of "The 1995 massacre of thousands of Bosnians Moslems in the U.N.-proclaimed ´safe area´ of Srebrenica." (Holbrooke mourns Srebrenica, urges reconciliation, Reuters, July 11). Mr. Holbrooke fails to mention that the so-called "safe area," which was supposed to be demilitarized, was used by the Bosnian Muslims as a staging area to attack surrounding Serbian villages.

The same diplomat, Mr. Holbrooke, said during an interview with Ted Koppel on November 6, 1995 (New Yorker), "The Vietcong were dedicated ideologues, committed to a long-term struggle. These guys [the Serbs] aren´t ideologues; they´re just murderous assholes." [Those are not my offensive words, but the words coming from the bigoted and racist mouth of our well-seasoned US diplomat who represents us at the UN!). Mr. Holbrooke praised the communist Vietcong, who killed over 58,000 Americans and denigrated the brave Serbian people who fought, suffered and sacrificed as our Allies during two world wars.

Yasushi Akashi, former UN Representative in Bosnia, admitted in the Washington Times of 1 November 1995, that "it is a fact that the Bosnian government forces have used the ´safe areas´ of not only Srebrenica, but Sarajevo, Tuzla, Bihac, Gorazde for training, recuperation and refurbishing their troops." In other words, the so-called safe areas were used as military posts to train Mujahedin fighters from Afghanistan, Iran, Syria, Turkey and the entire Islamic world, free to commit their treachery by attacking Serbian villages and returning like thieves in the night back to the safety of their UN protectors who conveniently looked the other way to these violations. Prior to the events at Srebrenica, these "Holy Warriors of Islam" had attacked 42 surrounding Serbian villages and over 3,000 Serbian villagers had been slaughtered without fear of being reprimanded or punished by the UN Yet, when Serbs were provoked to retaliate against these Muslim assaults from these so-called "safe-areas," they were condemned by the entire world.

Further proof of the violations of proclaimed "safe areas" by Bosnian Muslim forces was provided by Lt. Gen. Sir Michael Rose, former UNPROFOR commander who stated that Muslims "shoot on the Serbs to step up the pressure and to obtain a fresh intervention from NATO."

Yossef Bodansky, Staff Director for the Republican Task Force on Terrorism & Unconventional Warfare, US House of Representatives, writes in his book, "Offensive in the Balkans" that "The UN concluded that a special group of Bosnian Muslim forces, many of whom had served with Islamic terrorist organizations, committed a series of atrocities, including ´some of the worst recent killings,´ against Bosnian Muslim civilians in Sarajevo [another designated "safe area"] as a propaganda ploy to win world sympathy and military intervention. These attacks escalated into premeditated attacks and atrocities committed against Bosnian Serb civilians trying to flee contested areas." Furthermore, Michael Evans and Michael Kallenbach write in the Times (1995), "Thousands of ´missing´ Bosnian Muslim soldiers from Srebrenica who have been at the centre of reports of possible mass executions by the Serbs, are believed to be safe in the northeast of Tuzla." The question that no one seemed to ask was what were armed Muslim troops doing in an area that was supposed to be a demilitarized zone. Instead, the American media bombarded us with images of then US Ambassador to the United Nations, Madeleine Albright in August 1995, as she frantically waved the satellite photo over her head of the plowed field that was the alleged mass grave of 7,000 Muslim men. Proof positive! she claimed, of those who had been slaughtered and whose bodies were lying there only waiting to be exhumed.

While the world´s attention was deliberately focused on Srebrenica by such theatrical antics by Madeleine Albright, real ethnic cleansing of Serbs was taking place in the Krajina where, in August of 1995, over 250,000 were being driven from their ancestral homes, thousands slaughtered, and those too old or infirm to flee, remained only to have their throats slit. Approximately 650,000 Serbs have been driven out of Croatia since 1992 with little prospect of ever returning. It was US military aid and technology that made it possible for Croatian forces to conduct "Operation Storm" in order to achieve their goal of a pure Croatian state that Hitler could only promise. There was no outrage from Congress when Croatian jets bombed and strafed Serbian refugee columns. No outrage to what Charles Krauthammer described in Newsweek (April 5, 1999) as "the largest ethnic cleansing of the entire Balkan wars. Investigators with the war-crimes tribunal in the Hague have concluded that this campaign was carried out with brutality, wanton murder and indiscriminate shelling of civilians.... No denunciation. No sanctions. No bombing. No indignant speeches about ethnic cleansing and the slaughter of innocents. In fact, in justifying the current bombing of Serbia, Clinton made an indirect reference to this Croatian campaign when he credited the ´courageous people in Bosnia and in Croatia´ who ´fought back´ against the Serbs and ´helped to end the war.´ Indeed, they did. Croatia´s savage ethnic cleansing so demoralized the Serbs that they soon agreed to sign the Dayton peace accord of 1995." But where were the media when all this was happening?

"As the media diverted themselves with satellite photos, the fate of the Serbs from Krajina is being forgotten. The search for mass graves was stepped up last autumn. Journalists from all over the world came to Bosnia to look for bodies. Crews from CNN, CBS, BBC, France II, TG1 (Italy), Dutch Television and from elsewhere arrived in August 1996. But they found very little. Some crews did not bother at all to find the soccer field from the satellite photo, because the journalists had already come to believe that there was no mass grave there anyway. However, it was not reported. Moreover, the said photo is being used as alleged evidence of the existence of a mass grave in many articles even today." ("Missing Evidence," by Linda Ryan, Nova, Frankfurt o/m, March-April, 1996).

So why, after five years of unsuccessful efforts to turn the casualties of a tragic civil war, one less bloody than numerous conflicts around the world, into claims of holocaust and genocide, is the specter of Srebrenica being raised again? The answer is that this is an attempt to intimidate and silence the "revisionists" who are questioning our failed foreign policy in the Balkans, a policy based on lies about atrocities in Bosnia and Kosovo and executed in violations of international law, the NATO treaty and the US Constitution.

Posted by: susan_b at December 17, 2004 6:50 AM

These Muslims are pretty cunning lot eh?
If you want control, the first thing that you have to do is silence any opposition.
The next thing is to confuse your enemy, appease, attack, make happy, attack, etc...in other words throw up as much buffalo dust as possible. That's the mujhadeen playbook and that's exactly what is happening in Europe now, and in the U.S. for that matter.

Posted by: Richard at December 17, 2004 10:10 AM

American Indians have experienced ethnic cleansing before it was cliche. For over 500 years we have fought for this country voluntarily more than any other race. Through the outing of the Catholic Church and protestant reform we have witnessed the blood and sacrifice and near extinction of our animals from the whales, to the buffalo even to our national emblem the American Eagle. Thirteen states wasnt enough, they pushed to the south and took over the west. They pushed the American Indian off to the least land they thought they would ever need and called it Indian Territory. The American Indian didnt even get to vote until after the Africans and the women. Indian Territory wasnt even admitted into the Union until after Alaska and Hawii. Now, the cost of overhead governmental administration is way to valuated for the debt it owes for abusing the protectorate status of American Indian resources. (and they cant even get that right yet.) Yet, we continue to fight and believe in the American Ideals of freedom, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Americans say you did not do this to the American Indian and that was someone else, a long time ago but still claim the glory of the free world. Man's destiny has become vain -look in the box - of who he is? (the TV) see how vain and beatiful you try to portray yourselves. Man was created in God's own image and I see how God likes to be praised - man is trying to steal this praise from God and this not enough justification for man's vain glory to be honorated by history. It it wasnt for this genocide of American Indians, then why did Hitler say no, this is the way to provide a better society, then communism and socialism tried to prove theirs was better. The iron curtain came down and the wall was destroyed. This let American decandency through and left behind was the separation of Church and State. Now, with this kind of character-the US wants our soldiers to defend the sovereign rights of the Arab and Islam tribes while being protectorate of thier oil reserves? God is watching this Nation pledged under God -with liberty and justice for all. France gave us that beautiful Statue of Lady Liberty for that reason! Some where along the line, she was forgotten, the convience of technology made Americans richer instead of spreading the good work of their founding forefathers. It is time to make things right, as a day to God is a 1000 years. We need to get our own house clean before we can have the credit to clean someone elses. And this isnt pie in the sky, it means reform trust-fund managment. It means Apple pie for the Palestians, Jews and Islam. And so I write and thereof pray. Or justify to me? How you can put all this stuff upon the earth, live a sedatary lifestyle, wonder why you get strokes, be served in great restraurants like the Queen of England, have all life's pleasures by the hand of a remote, even go to Las Vegas, insure it on earth and still go to Heaven? Lucifer was once a Bright Light of Heaven - he wanted to be praised. He was thrown out of heaven for that too! The White man resembles this Bright one somewhat, yet no one is perfect all strive for redemption. I am for us if God is with us -who can be against us? And my colors are the RED, White & Blue.
Red for the people like me.
White for the ones who think their always right and Blue for the Black that sing those Blues. For Katherine and White Spider. May the Creator's Peace, Strength and Understanding be with you as a Mother's love. Lets make the best of what we got left to work with?

Posted by: Chu-Pit-it-sta-ka at December 17, 2004 11:25 AM

"Man's destiny has become vain -look in the box - of who he is? (the TV) see how vain and beatiful you try to portray yourselves. Man was created in God's own image and I see how God likes to be praised - man is trying to steal this praise from God and this not enough justification for man's vain glory to be honorated by history."

Chu-Pit-it-sta-ka, you're making a major mistake trying to find the Truth in people by looking for it in television - American TV is primarily a MARKETING device - of course it's vain!
If you truly believed that God and Man are One, you would understand that God is not some external deity that somehow needs or requires our praise, much less that Downy and Tide are trying to steal it from Him.
Let me tell YOU what the BIG problem is these days, and it's not vanity, it's NIHILISM. It's people who can't see the good or meaning in anyone and anything around them. Pick up a Webster's Unabridged Dictionary and look it up, you'll find the world we live in right there in the definition.
SNAP OUT OF IT.

Posted by: Mike at December 17, 2004 1:15 PM

TV, Marketing, are a magnified example of how man's vanity has evolved. You can see this in our society everyday as everyone cares so much about how they look. I do not believe God and man are the same? He has strayed very far from the image of God. God is Soveriegn, He is separate and DESERVES our love and praises. His ways are Higher than mans. Why does man think he knows so much, but still cannot prove where we go when we die, how to cure the common cold, or even get along with out getting mad and killing? Its not downy or tide trying to steal anything its man's lust for his own devices, (love of money and power)in that way he thinks he needs no God. God is a good Creator and deserves Praise. "It is easier for a Camel to go through an eye of a needle than it is for a rich man to get to heaven." So go ahead and market your "nothingness" if that the reality you choose, thats why Islamic terrorist think we are infidels. I do not live in world of nothingness, but in a free civil country and I chose to make my habitat a Spirit World that is full of gentleness, kindness, patience, self-control, self-determination, understanding, respect and when I die this is the spirit I am taking out of this flesh. You can take your nothingness if you want. The truth hurts, and that is the reality.

Posted by: Chu-Pit-it-sta-ka at December 17, 2004 2:40 PM

I'm sorry, Chu-Pit-it-sta-ka , but I just don't externalize God - I am He, and He is Me. What do you think Jesus, al-Hallaj and other mystics meant when they stated "I am the Truth"?
There is no nothingness for me to take, my friend - I don't subscribe to nihilism. I don't seek nothingness and meanlinglessness and fault in the people and the world around me, because God is in the people and the world around me.
The Truth Is What It Is - if it hurts you, heal thyself. Once you have accomplished this, then try and heal the world.
I agree with you that gentleness, kindness, patience, self-control, self-determination, understanding and respect are all fine virtues, but they cannot exist without HUMILITY. Remember that.

Posted by: Mike at December 17, 2004 3:32 PM

WEll that's good to know. I left humility out on purpose because I ride a Harley - and it is hard to be humble when your honored to have something so pure that's been wrought through, blood, war and strife. Its an icon of the freedom and integrity of America for the Good Gentile life. I honor it for God to see in my life of their strife in their plight from the Sea. There are some very very GOOD Gentiles, too does not the Muslim see? But, in America and other races as well, the truth is not evident as God watches thee. It is better to be black or white than be in between. No one is perfect, but we can strive to be true. God Bless this RED, White & Blue~! Only God knows who is really true/not the Angels or even Jesus. We are not supposed to judge-so we struggle in strife with our little bitty life so someday Creator will say, Come Hither for thou have been true~!

Posted by: Chu-Pit-it-sta-ka at December 17, 2004 5:14 PM

If we can live with respect and tolerance without killing maybe we will find out whose wrong and whose right. For now, all I know is our Sovereign Sons and our Sons of Liberty are over there fighting a Holy War for the peace and goodwill for Iraqi/Arab/Moslem/& Jew~! Please let this be the year Justice and Peace will rule. Let the convictions of heart bring you through! WE have a lot of work to do~~! Natural disasters so bad will befall - store the wheat, get ready for fire, the terrorists can help if they desire! Even their babies deserve to aspire~~!

Posted by: Chu-Pit-it-sta-ka at December 17, 2004 6:15 PM

Convictions for the Harvest- to the Apocalypse end.
The Apocalypse.

FINAL JUDGEMENT OF THE WAR TRIBUNAL COURT, VORTEX TO HADES:
And, God Did Judge the World! Judgment came upon Islam, Moslem, and Jew, and for the Saved first-borns of the Holy One True~! All that were dead, alive, or asleep were quickened to witness the Reapers final sweep. Reaper’s Bell tolling for final separation of the weeds and the wheat for Hells own Christmas right here on the earth.

For those who sold the Red, White, & Blue–Broadcasting bull markets for fear of the bear, was it for freedom, tell us the truth if you dare? How long do you think you can hide this due trust? While Archangels battle Holy War in your stead. Think hard politician–for you fall from God’s grace - are we there for only oil money? Then bring back our troops right now, honey! The people of Iraq only wanted to pray so keep your forsaken abominations away! I’m tired of watching your vain idle ways. Those who met in God’s Chamber, Moslem, Islam, and Jew, Quit killing for Allah – and Bush will burn, too! Try again the ten commandments and take only his best for uniform business codes and take care of the people and earth for the rest.

How do you justify your news broadcast? While you hide in your closet – Native Eagle distrust. Like no one sees or we do not matter –who cares for the –Eagle in God do we trust, with the lusts of your blood and your promise to pay? I plead with Ayatollah, this way, for blood, oil, land, and money what price did Eagles pay, to fight in these battles for Their freedom to pray? This governments killing, stealing and lies they did and use our name "Eagle" in God’s trust this way. I want my way back to my tribe this very day! Is it the vain love of money on earth, forever to stay? They left their first love–a Rock He named Peter–no wonder they’re lost and in need to get saved? People get saved the Pawnee were true, and pay up trust forms due. If you can't do for US–who’ll ever trust you?

In honor of the Pawnee I insure you this trust – Your war was not why these brave people fought it was for God’s own Trust He gave them reasons to pray. While poor people starving, dying, suffering of earth, you make invisible borders to hide this earth cursed? It’s time for Gods children to come home now. While Tribes compete with jealous mean States, on poor reservations, when they could take better care of it than their own government if it weren't so misconstrued. My Eagle suffers from a long broken promise for a God forsaken nation in it’s abominations. For you this Judge calls! You broke these treaties and bond not US.

FINAL SENTENCING OF THE WAR TRIBUNAL COURT, VORTEX TO HADES:
4America will no longer keep tribes and their attorneys from reviewing all government documents to reconcile earth’s resources stolen by the U.S. Department of Interior. You will no longer keep them from their rightful inheritance and claims for over 500 years of political oppression and protectorate status. For oil-war and money in Iraq do you trust? You broke the treaty of CO2 gases and pollute air of the masses. Filed Documents and jurisdictional boundaries are located in the DEPARTMENT OF GOD’S TRUST, OFFICE OF EARTH, Fort Lee Summit.
4Man should turn to mass transit for a 1000 years, except for small engines. The earth needs to rest, quit running her ragged. Pick up this rust from the poor dying nations. She’s sick of the poor dying people of earth. Its time to pay the Reaper’s Toll forsaking God’s creation.
4In honor of the Pawnee, give back THIS GREAT trust, inherent rights of their birth to pray for the earth.
4This is Your Last Chance get right and get ready for purgatory of earth 1000 years to win back this lost trust. No more oil, blood, land or money for this land of the lost.
4Slow down to mass transit and walk and make good. Stop big business so every man can live too.
4There will be no more starvation on earth–all children will be cherished with food, toys and clothes and a quality free education. So work for all people to have a home – not just one person to have a big mansion.
4There will be NO more war. If you start a war and send these children to battle you’ll never have a chance to go to heaven.
4If you get this right within 1000 years you’ll be trusted in heaven. God’s watching and waiting now to see what you’ll do. But you have to learn the Golden Rule Or earth will blow up you see and all you’ll HAVE is one big lake of fire with no vessel to flee. Grm Rpr said He.

Thus, one version for the sake of humanity.

Posted by: Chu-Pit-it-sta-ka at December 18, 2004 12:51 AM

Chu-Pit-it-sta-ka: Actually, Oklahoma (erstwhile Indian Territory) got admitted to the Union in 1912; Alaska and Hawaii in 1959. Granted, it's a said thing that war and smallpox wrought, and I'm glad your ancestors survived.

Posted by: Kepha1 at December 18, 2004 2:19 AM

Thank you, and thank you for correcting me -dunt how I made it with out you for all this time? "Right before Alaska and Hawii," there is that better? These states are Indian Nations too. The United States was ours-the reasons the only reason they have a protectorate status over our affairs, is justified in the Constutition of the Commerce Clause. Dealing with foreign and Indian Nations. We are not all infidels in the Country, and hope Bin Laden the rest of the strictest Islam beleivers would realize that and not judge the world by our citizen status. The earth is a big fragile space-craft in the universe and deserves better care for its people and creations sake. There are some who still care.

Posted by: Chu-Pit-it-sta-ka at December 18, 2004 12:13 PM

Happy Birthday Jesus: Thank Our Father for the Rainbow Covenant!, (perpetual Covenant between God and man – He will never destroy the earth again.) The US won’t abide in the treaty to reduce green house gas emissions because it will hurt the economy and battles for civil liberties in Iraq because of oil could hurt the world economy. - Please, Think Hard Politicians! Islam -Please ask Allah too~! What are you leading our Armies to do? - Man is at the Cross Roads between earth and his economy, heaven or hell? Which will he chose? Creation is dying and needs civil liberty, too~!
IRAQ – CROSSROADS – It’s VERY INTERESTING - DID YOU KNOW?

1. The garden of Eden was in Iraq.

2. Mesopotamia, which is now Iraq, was the cradle of civilization!

3. Noah built the ark in Iraq.

4. The Tower of Babel was in Iraq.

5. Abraham was from Ur, which is in Southern Iraq!

6. Isaac's wife Rebekah is from Nahor, which is in Iraq.

7. Jacob met Rachel in Iraq.

8. Jonah preached in Nineveh - which is in Iraq.

9. Assyria, which is in Iraq, conquered the ten tribes of Israel.

10. Amos cried out in Iraq!

11. Babylon, which is in Iraq, destroyed Jerusalem.

12. Daniel was in the lion's den in Iraq!

13. The three Hebrew children were in the fire in Iraq (Jesus had been in Iraq also as the fourth person in the fiery furnace!)

14. Belshazzar, the King of Babylon saw the "writing on the wall" in Iraq.

15. Nebuchadnezzar, King of Babylon, carried the Jews captive into Iraq.

16. Ezekiel preached in Iraq.

17. The wise men were from Iraq.

18. Peter preached in Iraq.

19. The "Empire of Man" described in Revelation is called Babylon,which was a city in Iraq!

And you have probably seen this one. Israel is the nation most often mentioned in the Bible. But do you know which nation is second? It is Iraq! However, that is not the name that is used in the Bible. The names used in the Bible are Babylon, Land of Shinar, and Mesopotamia. The word Mesopotamia means between the two rivers, more exactly between the Tigris and Euphrates Rivers. The name Iraq, means country with deep roots.

Indeed Iraq is a country with deep roots and is a very significant country in the Bible.

No other nation, except Israel, has more history and prophecy associated it than Iraq.

And also... This is something to think about! Since America is typically represented by an eagle. Saddam should have read up on his Muslim passages...

The following verse is from the Koran, (the Islamic Bible)

Koran (9:11) - For it is written that a son of Arabia would awaken a fearsome Eagle. The wrath of the Eagle would be felt throughout the lands of Allah and lo, while some of the people trembled in despair still more rejoiced; for the wrath of the Eagle cleansed the lands of Allah; and there was peace.

(Note the verse number!) Hmmmmmmm?! God Bless you all Amen !

A man and his dog were walking along a road. The man was enjoying the scenery, when it suddenly occurred to him that he was dead.
He remembered dying, and that the dog walking beside him had been dead for years. He wondered where the road was leading them.
After a while, they came to a high, white stone wall along one side of the road. It looked like fine marble. At the top of a long hill, it was broken by a tall arch that glowed in the sunlight. When he was standing before it he saw a magnificent gate in the arch that looked like Mother of Pearl, and the street that led to the gate looked like pure gold.
He and the dog walked toward the gate, and as he got closer, he saw a man at a desk to one side. When he was close enough, he called out, "Excuse me, where are we?"
"This is Heaven, sir," the man answered.
"Wow! Would you happen to have some water?" the man asked.
"Of course, sir. Come right in, and I'll have some ice water brought right up." The man gestured, and the gate began to open. "Can my friend," gesturing toward his dog, "come in, too?" the traveler asked.
"I'm sorry, sir, but we don't accept pets."
The man thought a moment and then turned back toward the road and continued the way he had been going with his dog. After another long walk, and at the top of another long hill, he came to a dirt road which led through a farm gate that looked as if it had never been closed. There was no fence. As he approached the gate, he saw a man inside, leaning against a tree and reading a book.
"Excuse me!" he called to the reader. "Do you have any water?" "Yeah, sure. there's a pump over there" The man pointed to a place that couldn't be seen from outside the gate. "Come on in." "How about my friend here?" the traveler gestured to the dog. "There should be a bowl by the pump." They went through the gate, and sure enough, there was an old fashioned hand pump with a bowl beside it. The traveler filled the bowl and took a long drink himself, then he gave some to the dog. When they were full, he and the dog walked back toward the man who was standing by the tree waiting for them.
"What do you call this place?" the traveler asked.
"This is Heaven," was the answer.
"Well, that's confusing," the traveler said. "The man down the road said that was Heaven, too." "Oh, you mean the place with the gold street and pearly gates? Nope. That's Hell." "Doesn't it make you mad for them to use your name like that?" "No. I can see how you might think so, but we're just happy that they screen out the folks who'll leave their best friends behind."

God Bless the Red & White & the Red & Blue~!

More Reasons to believe:
http://www.pewclimate.org/docUploads/Pew%2DSynthesis%2Epdf

Posted by: Chu-Pit-it-sta-ka at December 19, 2004 6:52 PM

To The Red and The White, the “Big 81.”

Jesus was a lot like you and me. The government didn’t like him. The church thought He was weird. His friends were few. What friends he had, denied him. He was persecuted by hypocrites. He hung around people like you and me, not the goody-two-shoes Pharisees.
Yes, if Jesus were on this earth in the flesh, be would be next to you on His Harley telling you he loved you…enough to die for you.

Posted by: Chu-Pit-it-sta-ka at December 20, 2004 7:10 PM

Correction: Bush is Burning~! Stop Bombing and Killing and Allah’s Tribes can Mandate Moral & Religious law to keep the Decadence out~!

Ten Commandments
The real reason that we can't have the Ten Commandments in our Courthouse! You
cannot post "Thou Shalt Not Steal," "Thou Shalt Not Commit Adultery" and
"Thou Shall Not Lie" in a building full of lawyers, judges and politicians! It
creates a hostile work environment.

Our Constitution
"They keep talking about drafting a Constitution for Iraq. Why don't we just
give them ours? It was written by a lot of really smart guys, it's worked
for over 200 years and hell, we're not using it anymore."

Maybe Allah could make it work. We’ve also got some real nice believers in the Mennonites and Amish.~! O Great Allah - Give Peace on Earth a Chance~!

Posted by: Chu-Pit-it-sta-ka at December 21, 2004 9:21 AM

O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, killing the prophets and stoning those who are sent to you! How often would I have gathered your children together as a hen gathers her brood under her wings, and you would not!
Matthew 23:37

Posted by: Chu-Pit-it-sta-ka at December 21, 2004 3:55 PM

I personally believe when God threw the devil out of heaven (with the extinction of dinosaurs & the Big Bang Theory) he landed in England. And maybe some of us got tired of following Moses around the desert and weren’t afraid to cross the big waters or afraid of giants. American Indio has lived with religious oppression for over 500 years. Three hundred years of ethnic cleansing and 200 years of colonial industrialism. Yet, our tribes still survive and have our sovereign ways. If you’d take a 24 hour day and compare with the life of our planet earth–man would only arrived the last 15 seconds before midnight. If one day is 1000 years to God, then what is so big about suicide bombing and sneaking up on people killing them in ones own life time. It would harder to work to care for one another in the coming days of global warming than to kill one self never knowing. And I want to know God! So… Lest any man boast!

“He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.”
Revelations Chapter 22:11

Let the Creator Judge who should live and who should die~! These Americans are trying to bring peace for you Arabs/Jews & Palestinians but some of you cant even keep from killing yourselves to accept it! So much for the morals of the Koran no wonder there is no love for unbelievers. Merry Christmas for our Archangels do battle on sacred ground for who goes in the name of our Lord~!
And I really want to know the truth~!!

Posted by: Chu-Pit-it-sta-ka at December 22, 2004 1:01 AM