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In this the PA is simply reflecting traditional Islamic piety. The Hadith quoted by Dr. Hassan Khater is repeated several times in Sahih Muslim, indicating its attestation by multiple sources. (The exact version he quotes is in book 41, no. 6985). Nor is he the first Palestinian official to quote it.
From Palestinian Media Watch (no direct link), with thanks to JC:
For years, the PA religious establishment has repeatedly portrayed the killing of Jews as a religious necessity. Today, PA TV chose to rebroadcast this same call to genocide as a historical necessity -- this time from a senior PA academic rather than from a religious leader. Dr. Hassan Khater, founder of the Al Quds Encyclopedia and a TV lecturer, cited the identical Hadith - Islamic tradition attributed to Mohammed - that the religious leaders have used to demand this genocide. This was part of a lecture focusing on what he described as the war of the Jews against Palestinian trees.These were his words quoting the Hadith:
"Mohammed said in his Hadith: 'The Hour [Day of Resurrection] will not arrive until you fight the Jews, [until a Jew will hide behind a rock or tree] and the rock and the tree will say: Oh Muslim, servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him!'" PA TV Dec. 27, 2004 [Rebroadcast from July 13, 2003]The continued teaching that this Hadith applies today could well be a dominant factor driving terror against Israeli civilians. By depicting redemption as dependent on Muslims' killing of Jews, the PA world view presents this genocide as a religious obligation and historical necessity -- not related to the conflict over borders, but as something inherent to Allah's world.
Posted by Robert at December 28, 2004 8:00 AM
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First an extremely IMPORTANT correction.
There are no such people as the "PALESTINIANS."
The so-called "Palestinians" are Muhammadean (Muslim) Arab OCCUPIERS (invaders/squatters) in Judeah and Samaria.
They (the Muhammadeans) got there (to Israel)through Jihad Wars of Terrorism in the past.
So please no more of this nonsense and fictitious "Palestinains".
End the PALESTINIANISM Myth.
Repatriate and deport these illegalial alien Muhammadean Arabs Terrorist INFERIROS (Terror is proof of inferiority, morally and mentally) back to Arabia.
Muhammadean Arabs GO HOME !!!
LEAVE ISRAEL.
The land belong to the Israeli Jews and Christians.
It said so in your Qur'an.
Muhammadean Arabs GO HOME !!!
Posted by: Informed Christian
at December 28, 2004 10:23 AM
"Live in pee and poo then, you death mongering fools."
See, DC, you and I and just about everyone else on this site would DO something about the situation, but these incompetent and dependent jerks have had their minds so mangled by Islam that they can't even pick up after themselves--they have to have someone else (like us) do it for them. So long as they cling to their mind-destroying religion, they have no hope.
OT (well, responding to a couple of things yesterday, December 27th):
"At least soon Powell will be gone?
Dr Rice seams to get it??"
Hi, Catherine, yeah, I think--I hope--she comes a lot closer than Powell, who is a lovely man, but totally unsuited to solving the problem that faces us. I would love to take a cross-country bus trip seated next to him, but he's far to "warm and fuzzy" (and ignorant) for this job.
"Yea that Kant was a piece of work.
Fröhliche Weihnachten und ein glückliches Neues Jahr!"
Hi, Sheik! Thanks for the greetings! And re: Kant, he is a HUGE piece of work! Do you know the saddest thing? Kant is the PITS to try to read, but there are professional philosophers who have devoted the time and energy to his work to make it easy for the likes of me, and it's just a baby step from there to making the principles understandable even to kids at the kindergarten level--no exaggeration.
I'm also not exaggerating when I say that courses in philosophy have been deliberately deleted from school curricula. There was at the very beginning of the foundation of the public school system (mid-1800s) to have a single train of thought; if philosophy per se were taught, as a course, it would "rock the boat" because it would produce THINKERS.
God knows, if we had thinkers today, we wouldn't be running up the down escalator so hard.
at December 28, 2004 10:51 AM
Corrections (sigh--I'm doing a lot of this lately):
1) "...too warm and fuzzy..."
2)"There was at the very beginning of the foundation of the public school system. . .the goal of having a single train of thought..."
at December 28, 2004 10:56 AM
The Positive Role of EVIL.
The Jews deserve all the evil that they are getting in a way though. They wouldn't have to be dealing with all this evil right now if they stoned that self-styled false-prophet who started all this, to death all those years ago, while he was yet an upstart in Medina.
Now stoning to death is the penalty prescribed to false-prophets in the Jewish Torah and our Muhammad agrees with it. He accepts that the Torah is from his Allah. He said so numerous times in the Qur'an.
So the Jews deserve all they are getting now because they didn't stop this evil in its infancy, in times long past.
As the heading of this article indicated above there is however a positive aspect to this evil.
If there were no Islam then people would be complacent. People would let their guard down and go around being deluded pacifist thinking that "ALL" is equal and good. Peace, love and lambs to the slaughter" stuff.
The existence of this evil awakens us and teaches us that evil really do exists and also make us vigilant.
Another good thing about evil is that it destroys. In destroying it cleanses and by cleansing it renew and regenerates.
It destroys the unsuspecting, the naive and the ignorant. So just like the maggots that eat up the carcass Islam cleans up the corpses.
Of course there is the danger that it would destroy the good as well as the foolish but it is up to the good to stand up to the challenge and prevail.
If Good can not conquerEvil then it is not "Good". It can not be said to be good to that which can not overcome evil.
Posted by: Informed Christian
at December 28, 2004 11:00 AM
And how does this fit in with Abu Mazen's campaign to end incitement in the Palestinian media?
Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose...
at December 28, 2004 12:57 PM
Hey, where did "DC Watson's" (not sure if the spelling is correct
about the name) original post go???
You know, the one with human urine and excrements and so on; the very
first message posted on this message thread?
Has it been deleted?
As for Sid Lawson,
I hope your name is not really "Sid Lawson".
I don't think its a really good idea to use your real name to post
here, seeing that there are children of Satan around who might seek your
hurt.
A friendly reminder, just in case.
As for what you wrote,
(Posted by: Sid Lawson at December 28, 2004 12:20 PM),
I agree in principle.
Justice demans fairness.
It is fair to do them what they would do to you.
It is JUSTICE! (Dammit. Oops, am I allowed to say that?)
Posted by: Informed Christian
at December 28, 2004 1:06 PM
Informed Christian,
My name is neither Sid NOR Lawson. Thanks for the concern, however!
Posted by: Sid Lawson
at December 28, 2004 1:24 PM
If allah is so cotton-pickin' powerful, why can't he kill the Jews himself? Or is allah too busy planning tsunamis that kill mostly muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, and some Westerners?
Posted by: 3812Michelle
at December 28, 2004 2:32 PM
Dear Sid Lawson
I am not a Jew, but of course I am outraged and couldn´t agree more with you.
I live in Germany and could say that here in the EU the media (but also so called normal people) always pitty Muslems and never Jews (only the dead Jews in WWII, but not the present day victims of Muslim violence). "Palestinians" are always portrayed as victims. It is not that no-one knows what "Palestinians" are saying and doing, but it is interpreted as "desperation". Sometimes even poverty or unemployement (sic!) are used as explanations. And it is really getting worse. And it is not much different in most other European countries, - they are all hysterically focussed on "Palestinians". Every time I bring pro-Israel agruments, I am asked whether I am a Jew. Apparently most Europeans cannot understand why otherwise someone would support Israel. It is all so disgusting. Sometimes I think that Europe hasn´t deserved any better fate than to be destroyed by Muslims.
Israel should not waste any time with explanations , it is usless. It should defend itself with all means it has at disposal.
at December 28, 2004 2:35 PM
Sid Lawson: If Israel is attacked I'll be on my way to defend it!
Serbin Girl:
The mindset you describe in Germany is appalling. Equally bizzarre that you find similar twisted minds here in Australia, people pointing to the 'dangers of Christian Fundamentalism in the US'- the mind boggles....
Posted by: Terminator
at December 28, 2004 3:47 PM
If I were a Jew (which I AM) living in Israel (which I do not) this broadcast would immediately awaken me, once and for all, to the ABJECT reality. When this type of broadcast occurs in America, will YOU wake up? Is not a CALL TO MURDER a legitmate call to war?
If I lived in Israel, I would make sure ALL of my friends, associates, all my children's friends, teachers, all my empployees and their friends SAW IT AND UNDERSTOOD IT.
I would help form posses and militias to begin
If this is not a wake-up call, then what the hell is???? Where is YOUR DISGUST?!!?
Where is YOUR DISGUST?!!?
Posted by: Sid Lawson at December 28, 2004 12:20 PM
MORE LIKE WHERE IS YOUR GUN??
YOU HAVE NOT BEEN DOING YOUR HOME WORK THEY ARE HERE IN THE USA AND BELIEVE THE SAME THING AND HAVE YOU HEARD OF THE INTERNET??
NOW LEARN WHAT IS BING TAUGHT IN THE MOSQUES IN THE USA AND TELL YOU FREINDS??
AND DO AS YOU SAY HELP US DESTROY ALL ISLAMIC TERRORIST AND ALL WHO SUPPORT THEM???
Qur’an 4:47 “O you People of the Book to whom the Scripture has been given, believe in what We have (now) revealed, confirming and verifying what was possessed by you, before We destroy your faces beyond all recognition, turning you on your backs, and curse you as We cursed the Sabbath-breakers, for the decision of Allah Must be executed.”
Qur’an 4:160 “For the iniquity of the Jews We made unlawful for them certain (foods) in that they hindered many from Allah’s Way, that they took usury, though they were forbidden, and that they devoured men’s wealth on false pretenses, We have prepared for those among them who reject [Islamic] Faith a painful doom.”
Qur’an 5:59 “Say: ‘People of the Book! Do you disapprove of us for no other reason than that we believe in Allah, and the revelation that has come to us and that which came before?’ Say: ‘Shall I point out to you something much worse than this by the treatment it received from Allah? Those who incurred the curse of Allah and His wrath, those of whom He transformed into apes and swine.”
Qur’an 2:64 “But you [Jews] went back on your word and were lost losers. So become apes, despised and hated. We made an example out of you.”
Ishaq:240 “The Jews are a nation of liars.... The Jews are a treacherous, lying, and evil people.”
Qur’an 33:26 “Allah made the Jews leave their homes by terrorizing them so that you killed some and made many captive. And He made you inherit their lands, their homes, and their wealth. He gave you a country you had not traversed before.”
Ishaq:250 “The bestial transformation occurred when Allah turned Jews into apes, despised.”
Qur’an 88:1 “Has the narration reached you of the overwhelming (calamity)? Some faces (all disbelievers, Jews and Christians) that Day, will be humiliated, downcast, scorched by the burning fire, while they are made to drink from a boiling hot spring.”
Tabari VIII:130 “The Messenger said during his final illness, ‘Two religions cannot coexist in the Arabian Peninsula.’ Umar investigated the matter, then sent to the Jews, saying: ‘Allah has given permission for you to be expelled; for I have received word that the Prophet said that two religions cannot coexist in Arabia.”
Qur’an 59:14 “They [Jews] will not fight against you save in fortified townships. Their hostility and hatred amongst themselves is strong: you would think they were united, but their hearts they are divided. That is because these [Jews] are a people devoid of sense.”
Ishaq:245 “Do you love Jews and their religion, you liver-hearted ass, and not Muhammad? Their religion will never march with ours…. Jews make false professions about Islam. So Allah sent down: ‘Satan wishes to lead them astray.”
Qur’an 5:13 “But because of their breach of their covenant We cursed the Jews, and made their hearts grow hard. They change the words from their (right) places [the illiterate prophet pronounced] and forget and abandon a good part of the message that was sent them. Nor will you cease to find deceit in them. And because of their breaking their covenant We have cursed them. They altered words from their context and they neglected a portion of the message they were reminded of.”
Qur’an 5:41 “Or it be among the Jews, men who will listen to any lie. They change the context of the words from their (right) times and places.... For them there is disgrace in this world, and in the Hereafter a heavy punishment.””
Qur’an 5:44 “It was We who revealed the Torah. By its standard the prophets judged the Jews, and the prophets bowed (in Islam) to Allah’s will, surrendering. For the rabbis and priests: to them was entrusted the protection of Allah’s Scripture Book; they were witnesses of it. Therefore fear not men, but fear Me, and sell not My revelations for a miserable price.”
Qur’an 5:64 “The Jews say: ‘Allah’s hands are fettered.’ Be their hands tied up and be they accursed for the blasphemy they utter. Nay, both His hands are widely outstretched, giving [Muslims Jewish booty] as He pleases. Amongst them we have placed enmity and hatred till the Day of Doom. Every time they kindle the fire of war, Allah does extinguish it. But they strive to do mischief on earth.”
NOW ASK YOUR SELF WHAT IS THE DAY OF DOOM??
IS THIS WHAT THE ISLAMIC TERRORIST ARE TRYING TO BRING ABOUT??
DO NOT BE STUPID DO YOUR HOMEWORK AND FIGHT WITH THOSE WHO WILL FIGHT AGAINST THE MONSTERS THEY ARE ALL OVER THE WORLD AND YES HERE IN THE USA CHRISTIAN JEW HINDO BUDIST MAKES NO DIFFERENCE TO THE MONSTERS THEY HATE ALL AND WILL KILL ALL!!
The Hate For Jews in the qu-ran is huge and is being taught here and to ALL Mulsums around the world!!!
Glad to see you are almost awake??
Part of the American Tribe
Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
God Bless the USA and her Fighting Forces and ALL who Fight with her give them Strength,Sight,Wisdom,and Courage to Crush ALL Islamic Terrorist and ALL who Support them Open the Worlds Eyes to their Threat Amen
at December 28, 2004 4:51 PM
sid gets a Gold star for that Picture!! ROTFL!!
Part of the American Tribe
Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
God Bless the USA and her Fighting Forces and ALL who Fight with her give them Strength,Wisdom,Sight, and Courage to Crush ALL Islamic Terrorist and ALL who Support them Amen
at December 28, 2004 4:55 PM
SID LAWSON
SERBIA GIRL
I support your comments and am also amazed at the number of Leftist Journalists [which includes the BBC and Guardian] who support Muslim Suicide bombers.Apparently they DON'T see anything wrong with Civilians being blown up by those 'poor misunderstood Palestinians!!' Historically you are correct, those lands belonged to Jews and Christians. Just as Kosovo was Serbian before being outbred by Albanian Muslims. Serbia got a very bad press orchestrated by same Leftist Journalists and was demonised to the extent one is
always shown burning mosques instead of burning churches with actrocities against Serbs ignored.
Both Sid and Serbian girl know the Muslim peril : you will get your revenge when you see silly Europeans [those same Leftist Journalists] fighting in their streets against Muslim killers
in situations which will make Bosnia look like a Teaparty. I know Israel and Serbia will not bow to
Jihadists. One day in not too distant future, your comments will be vindicated - all this could have been avoided if people had learnt History lessons and knew what Islam was REALLY about.
at December 28, 2004 5:33 PM
My post may have been deleted, and it probably should've been. My apologies to the site for my writing this morning, as I was letting emotion get the better of me.
D.C.
Posted by: DCWatson
at December 28, 2004 8:58 PM
Morgane:
There is a website called 'Terroristmedia.com'- If you have the stomach to watch beheadings and other atrocities comitted by these 'glorious Islamic mujahiddin' you will load your guns and go after them!
Posted by: Terminator
at December 28, 2004 9:04 PM
"when you see silly Europeans [those same Leftist Journalists] fighting in their streets against Muslim killers
in situations which will make Bosnia look like a Teaparty"
Unfortunately, those leftists are incapable of lifting an arm in self defence. The will go into hiding and throw stones at those who risk their lives to defend them.
Their only use would be as hostages for the Muslims. let them be the ones to be beheaded, not the brave humanitarian workers who dedicate themselves to improving the lot of Iraqis.
ANd is it not ironic , that the tsunami occurred off Banda Aceh, the focal point of asian Islamic terror ?
perhaps this will hamper the activities of Asian Islamic terror groups.
at December 28, 2004 9:49 PM
Unfortunately it is not only the silly left. Let´s be honest: the right wing parties in Europe are also more than willing to sacrifice Israel and Serbia. Yes, when Serbia was bombed in 1999, social-democrats and the greens were in power in most NATO countries, but I do not believe it would have come different with demo-christians or the so called liberals (they may have different views on taxes and so on, but their views on Israel and Serbia are more or less identical with the "silly left"). I do not expect that the current policy of the EU towards the PA (giving the "Palestinians" enormous sums of money and moral support for their declared aim to destroy Israel) as well as the intention to solve the (self created) Kosovo problem by granting a state to the worse criminals and terrorists one can imagine will change even if the demo-christian and other conservative parties come into power in the next few years (which is likely to happen). This applies to Europe, to my mind, but it might be different in USA. Serbs were relieved when Bush won elections. But will it really make a difference to us?
Posted by: Serbian girl
at December 29, 2004 2:07 AM
Morgan, Unfortunately it is not only the silly left. Let´s be honest: the right wing parties in Europe are also more than willing to sacrifice Israel and Serbia. Yes, when Serbia was bombed in 1999, social-democrats and the greens were in power in most NATO countries, but I do not believe it would have come different with demo-christians or the so called liberals (they may have different views on taxes and so on, but their views on Israel and Serbia are more or less identical with the "silly left"). I do not expect that the current policy of the EU towards the PA (giving the "Palestinians" enormous sums of money and moral support for their declared aim to destroy Israel) as well as the intention to solve the (self created) Kosovo problem by granting a state to the worse criminals and terrorists one can imagine will change even if the demo-christian and other conservative parties come into power in the next few years (which is likely to happen). This applies to Europe, to my mind, but it might be different in USA. Serbs were relieved when Bush won elections. But will it really make a difference to us?
Posted by: Serbian girl
at December 29, 2004 2:07 AM
Sid Lawson:
If you want to do what you suggest (and I am fully in favor of it, do not doubt that for a moment), you will have to overcome the government of Israel (Sharon, Peres, & Co.) first. They arrest, try, and convict Jews not in the IDF (and attacked first) who kill Arabs. They give land to Arabs for the hope of "peace," over and over again--when all they get in return is more terror and more dead Jews.
Posted by: unicorns62000
at December 29, 2004 3:54 AM


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