I wonder if it ever occurred to these idiofascists that is the Zionists did rule the world as they so liberally give us credit for doing, that the world would be in much better shape than it is in some respects????? LOL Their continued efforts to blame all things Jewish or Zionist or Israel or US give us waaaaay too much power. Would that we had what they claim day after day. Oy!!!

Posted by: bj at January 9, 2005 9:10 AM

Does it get any sillier than this? Why did many Jews leave Russia to come to Israel? Probably because they wanted to get out of Russia.

Somehow the battle between the Russians and Chechens that has been going on is somehow the result of Zionism! And let's not forget the battle between the Thai Muslims and the Thailand government? Must be Zionism causing that too! Or the battle between the Phillipinos and the Moro (Muslim) tribes? Let's discuss how that friction has been caused by Zionism. The battle between the Serbs and the Bosnian Muslims. That must have been caused by Zionism too. Didn't the Serbs and the Muslims get along beautifully before Israel was founded?

Islamic logic quickly becomes nonsensical.

Posted by: DavidE at January 9, 2005 10:59 AM

Speaking of Beslan, why has there not been a response to the murder of those children? We all expected the Russians to come back at the jihadis with a vengence, but so far nothing. I am disappointed to say the least.

Posted by: Carolyn2 at January 9, 2005 11:27 AM

You people obviously know nothing about history.

You see, the whole problem started when the Zionist Charles Martel (a French Mossad agent, codename: the Hammer)instigated a crusader war of aggression against the Religion of Peace in the eigth century at Tours, the fourth holiest city in Islam.

Later on, two stooges named Ferdinand and Isabella, at the behest of their Zionist paymasters and under pressure from the all-powerful Israeli lobby, expelled what was left of the Muslims who had selflessly brought civilization to Spain and had, in fact, established the most tolerant society in the history of mankind.

Posted by: montfort at January 9, 2005 12:48 PM

two stooges named Ferdinand and Isabella.
Posted by: montfort

I must inform you that it was the three stooges not two and their names are Larry, Curly and Moe. It is based on the true life story of Mohammad played by Moe, Allah played by Curly and the 12th Imam played by Larry.

And you claim We don’t know our history!

Posted by: Bar at January 9, 2005 1:09 PM

I want to be a zionist, all the things in the world are done by them, I want also to be the protagonist

Posted by: Franze at January 9, 2005 3:10 PM

Amos Oz, the long-time Israeli peace activist, noted back in spring of 2003 (the time of the invasion of Iraq), that of about 28 conflicts raging, 26 involved Muslims on at least one, if not both sides. Not a shabby score, considering Muslims account for 20 to 25% of the world's population.

But of course, if Muslims encounter problems, it could only be because of the machinations of the Jews, who constitute about a quarter of 1 percent of the world pop.

How wonderful it must be to buy into an ideology that renders one so stupid and blind.

Posted by: waterdragon52 at January 9, 2005 3:15 PM

Bar is absolutely correct!

Look at what Moe is always saying: 'Spread out!'

Posted by: Gary at January 9, 2005 3:52 PM

Oh yes, it is always the JEWS!That tiny minority
who have barely survived an ongoing history of being tortured killed and burned alive by their European brothers and Muslims. No RACE HAS EVER BEEN PERSECUTED AS THE JEWS HAVE . To our eternal shame,[ this includes New Zealand], virtually no country would take them in during Hitler's
'SOLUTION OF THE JEWISH PROBLEM.' Now Islam wants to finish what Christian Europe started, total
destruction of Israel so there isn't one Jew left to slaughter. Which only leaves us Infidels folks!
"THE SWORD OF MUHAMMAD AND THE QURAN ARE THE MOST FATAL ENEMIES OF CIVILIZATION, LIBERTY AND THE TRUTH WHICH THE WORLD HAS YET KNOWN"
Sir William Muir Orientalist

Posted by: Morgane at January 9, 2005 6:16 PM

Right on, Morgane,
and the ultimate irony is that,
wracked with guilt about their lack of understanding and compassion 1935 -1945, counries like Canada, for sure, and no doubt New Zealand, are making the FATAL mistake of letting in moslems, as many as you please.

To compensate for one wrong, we are committing a second wrong, and this one could be fatal to our societies.

Posted by: dby at January 10, 2005 2:38 AM

the jews the jews what to do about those sneaky rascals ?

I once met a bangladeshi moslem who had an explanation for the annual flooding of that crappy nation. and it was as follows:
thew jews in Mossad and the hindus in RAW are delibratley chopping down the trees to cause the flooding along with diverting rivers to flood the country. Israeli aircraft fly secret missions over bangladesh to seed the cloud and make it rain.
Also he could prove that the UK was run by the jews because if you look at heathrow airport you will see the runways resemble the Star of David.

What can you say to idiots like this ?
My theory of why islam spouts these daft conspiracy theories is that it simply distracts them from the reality of the failure of islam, they just cannot face the truth.

PS. My mate Allen owns a pie company, he is jewish, does that therefore mean "they" control the international pie industry ?

Posted by: apostate_islam at January 10, 2005 8:20 AM

apostate_islam:

If you ever run into your little Bangladeshi friend, be sure to tell him it was an American Jewish architect, Louis I Kahn, who designed Bangladesh's beautiful legislative buildings, working for a pittance of what his time was worth, contributing to his bankruptcy and death at 72.

Posted by: waterdragon52 at January 10, 2005 1:00 PM

waterdragon52,

He was not my "friend", just an unfortunate aquaintance.

By the way fo you know that in the 1971 Indo pak, to of the top Indian military leaders were jewish ?

General Jacobs and Admiral Samuel.

www.bharat-rakshak.com

Regards

AI

Posted by: apostate_islam at January 11, 2005 5:13 AM

http://www.oxuscom.com/cahist2.htm
Major Events Relevant to Central Asian History
Part 2 (Since 1600)
by Mark Dickens
You are welcome to quote any material from this website in an article or research paper, but please give the appropriate URL of the webpage you are quoting from. Thank you!
1619-21
The first diplomatic contacts between Moscow and Bukhara.
early 17th cent.
The Kalmuks, part of the Oyrat tribal confederation, migrate from Jungaria to the Volga.
1643
The Oyrats who stayed in Jungaria conquer Semirechye.
1644
The Manchu Qing dynasty is established in China.
1645
The Russians reach the Pacific Ocean.
1680s
Clashes between Russian and Chinese troops in Manchuria.
1680-1718
The rule of Khan Teuke over the reunited Kazakh hordes.
1687
The end of Shaybanid rule in Khiva.
1689
The Treaty of Nerchinsk between Russia and China ends border clashes in Manchuria.
early 18th cent.
Oyrat raids on the Kazakhs.
1715
The first Russian military expedition to the Kazakh Steppe under Peter the Great.
1717
The first Russian military expedition to Khiva ends in a massacre of Tsarist troops.
1718
The Oyrats defeat the Kazakh Middle Horde north of Lake Balkash.
1722
The Afghans invade Persia, bringing to an end the Safavid dynasty.
1723-25
Kalmuk and Oyrat raids into northern Transoxiana.
1729
Nadir Qoli Beg (later Nadir Shah) drives the Afghans out of Persia.
1731
The Kazakh Lesser Horde accepts Russian protection.
1732
Nadir Qoli Beg takes Herat.
1734/35
The founding of the Russian fort at Orenburg.
1739
Nadir Shah takes Ghazna and Kabul and occupies Delhi.
1740
The Kazakh Middle Horde accepts Russian protection.
1740-47
The invasion and subsequent domination of Transoxiana by Nadir Shah.
1742
Part of the Kazakh Great Horde accepts Russian protection.
1747
The establishment of the Durrani dynasty in Afghanistan.
1747
The Uzbek Mangit dynasty begins to rise to power in the Khanate of Bukhara.
1757
The Chinese defeat the Oyrats in Jungaria.
1759
The Chinese conquer the Tarim Basin, resulting in the Khojas fleeing to Kokand.
1763
The Uzbek Kungrat dynasty begins to rise to power in the Khanate of Khiva (or Khorezm).
1768
Eastern (Chinese) Turkestan is officially renamed "Xinjiang" by the Chinese.
1771
The Chinese attempt to bring the Kazakhs into a vassal relationship.
1771
Some Kalmuks migrate back to Jungaria and the Ili Valley from the Volga.
1782/83
The Crimean Tatar Khanate is absorbed by Russia.
1784/85
The Mangits succeed the Astrakhanids as rulers of the Khanate of Bukhara and adopt the title of Emir.
1798
The establishment of the Uzbek Khanate of Kokand.
1804
The Kungrats (in Khiva) adopt the title of Khan.
1820-28
The Khojas revolt against Chinese rule in Altishahr (the Tarim Basin).
1822
The Khanate of the Kazakh Middle Horde is abolished by Russia.
1824
The Khanate of the Kazakh Lesser Horde is abolished by Russia.
1826
The establishment of the Barakzai (or Mohammadzai) dynasty in Afghanistan.
1820s-40s
Kazakh revolts against Russian rule.
1837/38-46/47
Kazakh resistance to Russian rule under Kenesary Kasimov (1802-47).
1839-42
The First Opium War results in China's defeat at the hands of the European powers.
1839-42
The First Anglo-Afghan War results in the British capturing Kabul and Qandahar.
1842
The imprisonment and execution of Stoddart and Conolly by Emir Nasrullah of Bukhara.
1843-47
The revolt of the Six Khojas in Altishahr.
1848
The Khanate of the Kazakh Great Horde is abolished by Russia.
1850-64
The Taiping Rebellion in China.
1854
The founding of Alma-Ata (then called Fort Vernoe) by the Russians.
1855
Russia is defeated in the Crimean War.
1855
Kazakhstan comes fully under Russian control, who now hold the Syr Darya line (from the Aral Sea to Lake Issyk Kul).
1855-73
Muslim rebellions in Yunnan and Shaanxi provinces in China.
1857
The Khojas revolt in Altishahr.
1857-60
The Second Opium War, again resulting in China's defeat.
1864
Yaqub Beg (c. 1820-77) establishes an independent state in Altishahr.
1865
The Russians create the Province of Turkestan.
June 1865
The Russians capture Tashkent.
1867
The Russians create the Governorate-General of Turkestan, with Tashkent as its capital.
1868
The Russians create the Governorate-General of the Kazakh Steppe, with Orenburg as its capital.
May 1868
The Russians capture Samarkand.
June 1868
The Khanate of Bukhara becomes a Russian protectorate.
1869
The Russians establish a fort at Krasnovodsk on the Caspian Sea.
1871
Russian forces occupy the Ili Valley.
Aug. 1873
The Khanate of Khiva becomes a Russian protectorate.
1876
The Khanate of Kokand is annexed by Russia.
1876
The Chinese begin their reconquest of Xinjiang.
1877
Queen Victoria is proclaimed "Empress of India."
1877
Yaqub Beg dies of poisoning.
1878
Kashgar falls to the Chinese, under Tso Tsung-t'ang.
1878
The Congress of Berlin halts further Russian advancement into Afghanistan.
1878-80
The Second Anglo-Afghan War.
1880
The Transcaspian Railroad is begun.
Jan. 1881
The Russian slaughter of the Turkmens at the Battle of Gok-Tepe, resulting in the creation of the Transcaspian province.
1881
The Treaty of St. Petersburg between Russia and China results in the return of the Ili Valley to China.
1884
The Russians introduce American cotton into Turkestan.
1884
The Russians occupy the Merv oasis, thus completing the conquest of Turkestan.
1884
Xinjiang officially becomes a Chinese province.
1885
Muslim revolt in the Ferghana Valley against Tsarist rule.
1885
The Trans-Caspian Railroad reaches Mary (Merv).
1887
The border between Afghanistan and Russian Turkestan is determined by the British and the Russians.
1888
The Trans-Caspian Railroad reaches Samarkand.
1890-92
Mass immigration of Russian and Ukrainian settlers into the Kazakh steppe.
1892
Riots in Tashkent due to a cholera epidemic.
1898
Muslim uprising in Andijan against the Russians.
1900
Russia annexes the eastern Pamirs.
1905
The 1905 Russian Revolution.
1905
The Russo-Japanese War.
1906
The completion of the Orenburg-Tashkent Railroad, linking Turkestan to European Russia.
1909
The founding of the Young Bukharans in Bukhara.
1911
The Republican Revolution in China brings the Qing dynasty to an end.
1912
The founding of the Alash Orda party amongst the Kazakhs.
1914-18
World War I
1916
Central Asian uprising in protest over conscription into labor units of the Russian army, resulting in the slaughter of many Kazakhs by the Russians.
Mar. 12(Feb. 27),1917
The "February" Revolution in Russia, resulting in the establishment of the Tashkent Committee of the Provisional Government and the Tashkent Soviet of Worker's and Peasant's Deputies.
Apr. 1917
The Bolshevik Party affirms it support of the right of all nations within Russia to separate and form independent states.
Apr. 1917
The First Pan-Kirghiz (Kazakh) Congress in Orenburg.
Apr. 16-23, 1917
The First Central Asian Muslim Congress in Tashkent demands the cessation of Russian colonization and the return of confiscated lands.
May 1-11, 1917
The First Pan-Russian Congress of Muslims in Moscow.
July 21-26, 1917
The Second Kazakh Congress in Orenburg.
Sept. 3, 1917
The Second Central Asian Muslim Congress in Tashkent proposes the creation of an Autonomous Federated Republic of Turkestan.
Nov. 7(Oct. 25), 1917
The Bolshevik "October" Revolution in Russia, resulting in the Tashkent Soviet seizing power from the Tashkent Committee.
Nov. 1917
The White Cossacks, under Ataman Dutov, cut off Central Asia from European Russia.
Nov. 15, 1917
The Third Regional Congress of Soviets in Tashkent decides to exclude Muslims from local government.
Nov. 15, 1917
The Bolshevik Declaration of the right of nations of Russia to secede and the freedom of Muslims to practice Islam.
Nov. 19, 1917
The Bolsheviks in Tashkent create the Council of People's Commissars to rival the Menshevik-dominated Tashkent Soviet.
Nov. 25-27, 1917
The Fourth Central Asian Muslim Congress in Kokand results in the creation of the Muslim Provisional Government of Autonomous Turkestan.
Dec. 5-13, 1917
The Third Kazakh Congress in Orenburg proclaims a Kazakh nationalist government under the leadership of the Alash-Orda in an attempt to halt the spread of Communism into the Kazakh steppe.
Jan. 1918
The Fourth Regional Congress of Soviets in Tashkent declares war on the Kokand Government.
Feb. 18, 1918
The Muslim government in Kokand is crushed by the Tashkent Soviet and the Red Army, resulting in the slaughter of many Muslims.
Feb. 1918-Sept. 1920
The first phase of the Basmachi Revolt.
Mar. 1918
The Russian Civil War begins.
Apr. 1918
The Turkestan Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic (ASSR) is established.
July 1918
A Russian Social Revolutionary government captures Ashkabad from the Tashkent Soviet and appeals to British forces in Persia for assistance.
Nov. 1918
The Congress of Muslim Communists in Moscow creates a Muslim Bureau within the Russian Communist Party (RCP).
Feb. 1919
British forces withdraw from Ashkabad.
May 1919
The Third Anglo-Afghan War results in the Afghans signing a friendship treaty with the new Soviet regime.
May 1919
The First Conference of Muslim Communists of Central Asia proposes a "Unified Turkestan Soviet Republic."
July 1919
The Third Congress of the Communist Party of Turkestan decides to exclude Muslims from government posts in Turkestan.
Sept. 1919
Red Army troops break Dutov's blockade of Central Asia.
Oct. 1919
The Turkestan Commission is sent by Lenin to take over authority from the Tashkent Soviet.
early 1920
The Reds emerge victorious in the Russian Civil War.
Jan. 15, 1920
The Turkestan Commission proposes the division of Turkestan into separate ethnic republics.
Jan. 20, 1920
The Fifth Congress of the Communist Party of Turkestan proposes a Soviet Republic of Turkic Peoples and a Turkic Red Army.
Feb. 2, 1920
Soviet troops capture Khiva, resulting in the abolition of the Khanate of Khiva and the end of the Kungrat dynasty.
Feb. 1920
The Tashkent Soviet recaptures Ashkabad.
Mar. 1920
The Alash Orda government gives up resistance to the Bolsheviks.
Apr. 4, 1920
The People's Republic of Khorezm (Khiva) is established under the leadership of the Young Khivans.
Aug. 26, 1920
The Kazakh (then called Kirghiz) ASSR is created.
Sept. 1920
Soviet troops capture Bukhara, resulting in the abolition of the Khanate of Bukhara and the end of the Mangit dynasty.
Oct. 6, 1920
The People's Republic of Bukhara is established under the leadership of the Young Bukharans and the Bukharan Communist Party, with Faizullah Khojaev (1896-1938) as chairman and then premier.
1920-23
The second phase of the Basmachi Revolt.
Jan. 1921
The Muslim Bureau of the RCP is dissolved.
Mar. 14, 1921
The Soviets depose the Young Khivan government of the People's Republic of Khorezm.
Oct. 1921
Enver Pasha (1881-1922) arrives in Bukhara to assist the Soviets and switches allegiance to the Basmachis.
Feb. 1922
The Bukharan Communist Party comes under the control of the RCP.
Aug. 1922
Enver Pasha is killed, resulting in the gradual crumbling of the Basmashi Revolt.
Nov. 1922
The Turkish nationalists, under Mustafa Kemal (Atatürk) abolish the Ottoman Sultanate.
Dec. 1922
The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics is created, with the Turkestan and Kirghiz (Kazakh) ASSRs included as parts of the Russian Soviet Federated Socialist Republic (RSFSR).
Mar. 1923
The First Conference of the Turkestan ASSR and the People's Republics of Bukhara and Khorezm establishes the Central Asiatic Economic Council, resulting in the economic and administrative unification of the three republics.
June 1923
Stalin denounces "Sultan Galievism" and the Muslim Communist aspirations for an independent Turkestan.
Oct. 1923
The Republic of Turkey is proclaimed, with Mustafa Kemal as its first president.
Oct. 1923
The Khorezmian Soviet Socialist Republic (SSR) is established, replacing the People's Republic of Khorezm.
1923-33
Intermittent Basmachi operations against the Soviets in Turkestan.
Jan. 1924
The death of Lenin and subsequent rise of Stalin to full power in the USSR.
Mar. 1924
Mustafa Kemal abolishes the Ottoman Caliphate.
Sept. 1924
The Bukharan SSR is established, eplacing the People's Republic of Buhkhara.
Oct. 1924
The National Delimitation of Soviet Central Asia results in the abolition of the Turkestan ASSR, the Bukharan SSR, and the Khorezmian SSR and the establishment of the Turkmen SSR, the Uzbek SSR, and the Tajik ASSR (as part of the Uzbek SSR).
Oct. 27, 1924
The Turkmen and Uzbek SSRs are created.
1924
The Sino-Soviet Agreement re-establishes diplomatic relations between the two countries.
Mar. 15, 1925
The Tajik ASSR is created.
Apr. 1925
The "Kirghiz" ASSR is renamed the Kazakh ASSR.
1926
The Baku Turkological Congress proposes the adoption of the Latin script for all Turkic languages in the USSR.
Feb. 1, 1926
The Kirghiz ASSR is created.
1927
Stalin purges the "Trotsky-Zinoviev" opposition.
1927-28
The liquidation of the Kazakh Alash-Orda party by the Communists and the replacement of Kazakhs by Russians in the republican government.
1928
Soviet anti-Islamic campaign launched, resulting in the disbanding of Islamic courts and waqfs.
1928-30
The Latin script replaces the Arabic alphabet in Soviet Central Asia.
1928-33
The forced collectivization of Soviet Central Asians.
Oct. 15, 1929
The Tajik SSR is created.
1930
The completion of the Turkestan-Siberian Railroad.
1931
The Soviets capture the Basmachi leader Ibrahim Beg.
1931
Muslim revolt in Kumul (Hami), Xinjiang. Nov. 1933
The Turkish-Islamic Republic of Eastern Turkestan (TIRET) is established in Kashgar.
Dec. 1933
The beginning of Soviet control of Xinjiang under Governor Sheng Shih-ts'ai.
July 1934
The TIRET falls to Dungan (Chinese Muslim) forces.
1936
The incorporation of the Karakalpak ASSR into the Uzbek SSR.
Dec. 5, 1936
The Kazakh and Kirghiz SSRs are created.
1937
The Japanese invasion of China.
1937
Muslim revolt in Kashgar, Xinjiang, resulting in Soviet military intervention.
1937-38
Stalin purges the Muslim Communist leaders.
Mar. 1938
The execution of Uzbek Communist leaders Faizullah Khojaev and Akmal Ikramov.
1939-45
World War II
1939-40
The Cyrillic script replaces the Latin Alphabet in Soviet Central Asia.
June 1941
Hitler invades the USSR.
1942
Sheng Shih-ts'ai breaks with the Soviets and realigns Xinjiang with Nationalist China.
1942
The Soviet government grants Islam official legal status in the USSR and establishes the four Spiritual Directorates.
1942
Xinjiang again comes under the control of the Chinese Republican government.
1944
The forced evacuation of Crimean Tatars, Meskhetian Turks, and other Caucasian Muslims to Soviet Central Asia.
1944
Muslim revolt in Ili, Xinjiang.
Nov. 1944
The Eastern Turkestan Republic is established in Ili.
1945-49
Civil War in China between the Communists and the Nationalists.
June 1946
The ETR disbands as a result of a treaty with Nationalist China.
1947
The partition of British India and independence of India and Pakistan.
Oct. 1, 1949
The People's Republic of China (PRC) is established.
Mar. 1953
The death of Stalin and subsequent rise of Khrushchev.
1955
The establishment of the Xinjiang Uighur Autonomous Region in China.
1958-59
The Great Leap Forward in the PRC.
Oct. 1961
The 22nd Communist Party of the Soviet Union (CPSU) Party Congress, at which the concepts of sblizhenie and sliianie are introduced.
1962
Mass exodus of Kazakhs from Xinjiang to Soviet Central Asia.
1962
Border clashes between Chinese and Indian forces in Kashmir.
1963
The Sino-Soviet rift comes out into the open.
1966-76
The Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution in the PRC.
1973
A military coup in Afghanistan abolishes the monarchy and establishes Muhammad Daud Khan as prime minister of the Republic of Afghanistan.
1976
The death of Mao Tse-tung.
1978
The rise of Deng Xiao-ping.
Apr. 1978
A Communist-backed coup in Afghanistan results in the assassination of Daud Khan and the establishment of the Democratic Republic of Afghanistan.
Jan.-Feb. 1979
The Islamic Revolution in Iran under Ayatollah Khomeini.
Apr. 1, 1979
Khomeini declares Iran an Islamic Republic.
Dec. 1979
The Soviet invasion of Afghanistan props up the Afghan regime in its battle against the mujehaddin.
1980-89
The Iran-Iraq War.
Jan. 1985
Anti-Russian riots in Dushanbe, Tajikistan.
Mar. 1985
Mikhail Gorbachev is appointed as General Secretary of the CPSU.
1986
The 27th CPSU Party Congress approves the policies of perestroika and glasnost.
Dec. 17-18, 1986
Anti-Russian riots in Alma-Ata, Kazakhstan.
1989
Soviet troops withdraw from Afghanistan.
Feb. 1989
Anti-Russian riots in Tashkent, Uzbekistan.
June 1989
Ethnic violence in Uzbekistan between Uzbeks and Meskhetian Turks.
June 1989
Riots in Novyi 'Uzen, Kazakhstan.
June 4, 1989
The Tiananmen Square massacre in Beijing.
Feb. 1990
Ethnic riots in Tajikistan.
Summer 1991
The breakup of the Soviet Union and the subsequent declarations of independence by the Republics of Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan.

SOME HOW I DON'T SEE A PROBLEM WITH JEWS IN THIS HISTROY BUT I DO SEE A PROBLEM WITH MULSUMS???

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