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Nor does he mean a "spiritual struggle." Search for Bakri in the archives here and you will see that this is really nothing new for him. Note also his declaration that British moderate Muslims are not true Muslims: variations of this statement form a cornerstone of jihadist recruitment efforts, and are virtually impossible for moderates to refute, since Bakri and his ilk can so easily invoke the Qur'an and Sunnah in support of what they say. "British Muslims called to take up jihad," from UPI, with thanks to Twostellas.
LONDON, Jan. 10 (UPI) -- Muslims living in Britain are facing two choices; either to migrate or to join the jihad, a key Islamic figure has said.Sheikh Omar Bakir Muhammed, leader of the now officially disbanded Islamic militant group Al Muhajiroun told United Press International Saturday that as the covenant of security under which Muslims previously lived in Britain has been broken, Muslims must now consider themselves at war.
"And I declare we should ourselves join the global Islamic camp against the global crusade camp," he said.
What violated the covenant, according to Sheikh Omar, was the anti-terrorist legislation introduced in the United Kingdom after the 9/11 attacks. If the British government would review these policies and release those detained without trial in Belmarsh prison and elsewhere, Muslims could live at peace in Britain. Otherwise, they must prepare themselves to fight.
"The response from the Muslims will be horrendous if the British government continues in the way it treats Muslims," he said, adding that suicide bombings were a possibility.
He called on Muslims to form a new coalition united behind al-Qaida with Osama Bin Laden as their leader.
This jihadi group would replace Al-Muhajiroun, which is no longer needed, he said. By dissolving such parties the Muslim community will have to come together, and as the judge of the Sharia court in Britain, he is the one to unite them, he added.
Those who did not wish to either leave or fight would not be regarded as Muslims, said Sheikh Omar, condemning in particular the Muslim Council of Britain for urging the Muslim community to cooperate with the British government.
"They are hypocrites, we don't believe they are Muslims," he told UPI. "In a time of crisis, who ever allies with them (the kuffaar -- non-believers) is one of them, so I don't believe they are Muslims in the first place."
"I doubt if one of them would dare to walk the streets of Mecca by themselves," he added.
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I thought this guy was in jail! What happened here?
Posted by: rb
at January 10, 2005 9:35 AM
"I thought this guy was in jail!"
It's Abu 'The Hook' Hamza who's currently in a UK jail, fighting extradition to the US.
Omar Bakri seems able to say anything inflammatory he likes, no problem. Well, there is an election coming up and Labour want those two million muslim votes...(See the piece at Dhimmi Watch in the last couple of days about Labour Minister Mike O'Brien's article in 'The Muslim Weekly', telling muslims Blair is the best friend they ever had and promising them preferential treatment.)
New Labour makes Lord Haw Haw look like Churchill!
Posted by: Benelux
at January 10, 2005 9:50 AM
"The response will be horrendous if the British government continues with the way it treats Muslims..." Omar Bakir Muhammad means that the government and the British people have failed to completely cave in and become dhimmis as demanded by Muslim law.
Few note how really racist and bigoted are Islamists and Muslims in general, terms they use against the West, knowing that these are "push button issues" that make most Westerners fall over themselves to demonstrate their tolerance.
The British government has responded by creating hate-speech laws that should be applied equally to all speakers. Muhammad means that Muslims should be exempt because, of course, they are Muslim, and that the hate-speech laws are example of the British government's attempt to make war on Muslims.
Sooner or later it will dawn on the Islamic world, moderate and extremist, that the numerical strength of the ummah will gain them advantage. Whether or not Sharia is imposed is irrelevant to that plan as they insinuate themselves into positions of power and put aside non-Muslims in traditional ways: racism, intolerance, nepotism, and so on, all in the name of the furtherance of Islam.
Posted by: epg
at January 10, 2005 10:19 AM
Don't the Brits have laws against sedition? Is it not a crime in Britain to incite violence, especially against the government?
Posted by: CGW
at January 10, 2005 10:34 AM
What never ceases to amaze me as I have read the various articles on Jihad Watch, and Dhimmi Watch for well over a year; one never has to read between the lines to Understand where these people are coming From. They are always and openly expressing their collective hate against all that are not muslims. The arrogance of their monotheistic religion and its totalitarian ,facist movement that is forever calling for jihads against infidels anyhere and everywhere on the face of this planet never stops. And it is the militancy of the proponents of Islam that have made this religion grow threw force and fear through out the world. We are making a serious mistake to try and appease this fascist Ideology in anyway. One wonders when the whole western world will ever wake up to this scourge against the civilized freedoms that we still enjoy.
Posted by: Mackie
at January 10, 2005 11:15 AM
Sheikh Omar Bakir Muhammed-radical nutjob/ danger to society/needs/government supported/ sniper/bullet/into forehead/through the brain/squashed melon/one down/many to go.
Posted by: DCWatson
at January 10, 2005 11:20 AM
January 9, 2005
Train in S.C. wreck Thursday the 6th??
Train in TX wreck near a refinery?
2 underground blast in Indiana?? May cause a delay for the Football game?? Boy they do not know what they do??
And we can not forget the Train wreck in Italy??
Tug boat in Pa. Blocks Damn was pushing 2 barges of coal??
In Sri Launka grenade thrown by Islamic Terrorist at Christians in an aid camp set up after killer quake and wave??
Iraq to set up Vigilante groups to kill Islamic Terrorist and their supporters!! This is about time and great for the Iraqi People!!
Sunni in Iraq said they weren’t going to vote for their Representative’s?? Who does that hurt no one but them?? Now they[Sunni] say they might vote if Americans Pulls out?? YEA RIGHT!! And would we have cared if Whites didn’t vote in South Africa after apartide?? I think NOT!!
UN=LONs is making Threat to countries that 1ooos of people will die if they don’t pay up because of the killer wave??
Calf. – People stuck on closed road have made it out of their cars seams they thought they could beat mother nature, to ski and didn’t!! Calf. Should fine every one of them a big fine for having to save their butts!! THE ROADS WERE CLOSED!!
Calf. Is silly not to keep roads Plowed in the ski season guess the money for stem cell in more important??
Bad weather in Europe could it be because they were against those who are against those who Fight against Islamic Terrorist???
2 Iraqi Christians found in Baghdad?? What savages these Islamic Terrorist are I am beginning to think they all [mulsums] are all cowards and Monsters??
Amos Oz new Book “ A tale of love and Darkness”
USA press are part of the Problem look at how many time’s they have shown a terrorist tape of our guys getting blown up?? With no care that it is some American’s who was killed and the hurt of an American Family?? But they won’t show the Dead Islamic Terrorist because it might offend the mulsums??
WELL you can kick an old dog ,but sooner or later that old dog will turn and BITE you!!
Another Earthquake in mussi land 6.2??
The drought in the West looks like it might be close to its end??
Ubl[YELLOW COWARD WHO RUNS AWAY] does not have any pull in the pali territories REMEMBER he said they should not vote??
Saudis kill 4 Islamic Terrorist in a Tent??
Maybe the House of Saud is trying to kill their Frankenstein??
Nuke sub crashes dose not know what it hit?? Will a sub turn up missing from Iran or China??
S.C.! HLS said duck tape and Plastic for a safe room is good to have in your emergency kit! Well a train accident is a good reason, But the Press & Democrats made fun and now how many would have been saved from a Hospital stay in S.C.???
Yes Lib’s are dangerous to your safety no matter which party!!!
Mulsums are raping and killing young women on the Mexican side of the border??
January 10, 2005
Mulsums attack military in Manila??
Ham-as boycott the election? They are abbas won by 62% of the vote and now they are saying that 70% of the people voted??
McCain=RINO is WRONG about Rumsfeld just like he was WRONG about more troops in Afghanistan!! When McCain=RINO said we would never win. That we need 10s of 1000s of troops. WELL we did win and didn’t need more troops!!
Turns out the audio from ubl[] did not come out of Tora Bora he[ublYELLOW COWARD WHO RUNS AWAY] had already RUN across the border into Pakistan? So when we were bombing and killing the Islamic Terrorist in TORA BORA ubl[YELLOW COWARD WHO RUNS AWAY] was already in Pakistan. What a coward guess the Palis don’t fear or care what he[ubl YELLOW COWARD WHO RUNS AWAY] has to say?? Because the palis voted anyway!!
Now the Iraqis are pissed because ubl[YELLOW COWARD WHO RUNS AWAY] is killing Iraqis because they want to vote and have FREEDOM??
When are the Iraqi People going to Understand they are the MANY and the Islamic Terrorist are the Few?? And the Many against the Few can BEET them if they work together??
Down where I come from we call it Vigilantism The People Stand and Fight the Monsters [ISLAMIC TERRORIST] The Iraqi People have to Fight for their FREEDOM the USA and FRIENDS can Help but, FREEDOM DOESN’T COME FREE!!
Man Looses his pants in Water rescue in Calf. Great video on cnn, but he lost his BMW??
UNICEF says no major out break of disease in disaster zone just a few cases of Measles??
So what is the UN=LONs talking about to threaten countries out of money??
Former CIA A.B. Krongard says ubl[YELLOW COWARD WHO RUNS AWAY] shouls not be caught when you think about it?? It looks like he [ubl] does need a little blue pill?? And that does leave the door open for us to bomb those who harbor him?? This guy was #3 in the CIA and who Quit[or was he asked to leave] after P. Goss took over! No wonder the CIA was so screwed up??
Ubl[yellow coward who runs away] WANTED DEAD OR ALIVE! Bounty Hunters Huge Reward!!
I still say we should bomb all his[] houses and business around the world and stop being such weenie’s about it if countries are harboring them well REMEMBER EITHER YOU ARE WITH US OR YOU ARE AGAINST US!!!
sympathy?
We need to learn and keep in mind that word sympathy is in the dictionary between the words SH_T and SYPHILIS!!!
WE will forgive ourselves like our grandparents did in WW2 Sometimes you have to do what you have to do!!
Hollywood will not let Passion of the Christ win an Award because they [Hollywood] are anti Semitic. Remember Jesus was a Jew!!
Some one went nuts in Italy and sent the peple No smoking zones?? What will the LIB’s do to the People Next??
Sherman tank taken out in Iraq?? Lets look at how the two armored machines have been taken out since that deserter Mulsum marine got to Lebanon?? We need to have a OOPS!! Over Lebanon a certain houses and business??
And Take the Family in Utah in custody??
THE STORY ABOUT THE CBS FAKE DOC. WAS CORDANATED WITH KERRY AND CLITON??
Qur’an 74:31 “We have appointed nineteen angels to be the wardens of the Hell Fire. We made a stumbling-block for those who disbelieve and We have fixed their number as a trial for unbelievers in order that the people of the Book may arrive with certainty, and that no doubts may be left for the people of the Book, those in whose hearts is a disease. And for those to whom the Scripture Book has been given, and the believers, there should be no doubt. The unbelievers may say, ‘What does the Lord intend by this?’ The Lord will lead astray whomever He pleases, and He will guide whomever He pleases: and none can know the armies of your Lord except He, and this is no other than a warning to mankind.”
This can be broken by Yes it is the Army of the people of the Book who he has chosen to Free [USA] the Iraqi people as it says
He will guide whomever He pleases: and none can know the armies of your Lord except He, and this is no other than a warning to mankind.”
Yes he has chosen the USA!!
TO FREE THE IRAQI PEOPLE FROM THE MONSTER saddam [FOUND IN A HOLE DON’T SHOOT I’M A YELLOW COWARD]
And let’s look at another part?
The Lord will lead astray whomever He pleases,
Ubl,saddam,zawari,all who Kill and destroy mankind?
There will be no more warnings?
Earthquake in Iran kills 31,000 who harbors ubls[YELLOW COWARD WHO RUNS AWAY] son and wife’s??
And now Locus in Egypt
NOW IF THAT IS NOT TELLING YOU ARE ON THE WRONG PATH NOTHING WILL??
Kazakhstan Blast in mine??
Islamic terrorist- killing Iraqis??
Earthquake in Algeria??
The typhoon in Philippines Remember they ran away from the Fight in Iraq??
http://www.onlypunjab.com/fullstory1104-insight-Pink+Locusts+from+North+Africa-status-15-newsID-503.html
Pink Locusts from North Africa Swarm Through Cairo
Publish Date : 11/18/2004 5:09:00 PM Source : Science and Technology News Onlypunjab.com
Swarms of pink locusts swept through the Egyptian capital on Wednesday, evoking the biblical description of the plagues which struck in the time of Moses.
The swarms of millions flew high above tall towers or swooped down onto treelined streets, where scared pedestrians stamped
on them or ran for cover.
The flying insects arrived from neighboring Libya after devouring the countryside in central and western Africa in past months.
YES I SAY ubl[YELLOW COWARD WHO RUNS AWAY] is losing and trying to regain control??
What verses did he say in his rambling and to say about the people of the book??
The people of
the book didn’t lose their crops??
Now Earthquake of mulsum Islands of Indonesia?? 9.3 and afterwards mass killer waves that effect many countries?/
Who is coming to the aid of the people But the Red Cross and India to help the people and Israel and the USA and the Western countries!!
115,ooo, mulsum killed in Indonesia alone?? Whole mulsum towns gone?? And Churches still standing??
We are waiting for the mulsums to help other mulsums?? Or with the entire fund raising they do help people instead of making war??
And now more 6.2 earthquakes in Indonesia?? Because they have sent Islamic terrorist to terrorize the victims of the killer wave??
Part of the American Tribe
Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
God Bless the USA and her Fighting Forces and ALL who Fight with her give them Strength, Wisdom, Sight, and Courage to stay the course to Victory to Destroy ALL Islamic Terrorist and ALL who Support them Open the Worlds Eyes to their Threat and give them World the Courage to Stand and Fight them Amen
at January 10, 2005 11:20 AM
By the way all, Fox is doing a good job of covering the MS13 machete swinging rapists (of deaf children) and their ties to al Queda, also mentioned is a tie to Muslims in London.
The MS13 should be the newest target of a CIA hit squad, with all of them left dead in the streets so the public can view their carcasses before they're disposed of, in an incinerator.
Posted by: DCWatson
at January 10, 2005 11:22 AM
"What violated the covenant, according to Sheikh Omar, was the anti-terrorist legislation introduced in the United Kingdom after the 9/11 attacks."
So I guess that slaugtering 3,000 innocent people wasn't a violation? I really hate when Muslims (and their leftist allies) say things like "after 9/11, Muslims are being profiled" (which they aren't, at least at airports, because the govt. doesn't want to offend anyone)or "After 9/11, people are suspicious of Muslims", "After 9/11, people don't like Islam." They act like disliking a particular religion or trying to prevent another attack with logical security measures are the same as hijacking a plane and crashing it into a building. Or they treat it like 9/11 is just some random date, and there's no reason to be suspicious of Muslims.
Posted by: Megan
at January 10, 2005 11:34 AM
I agree in that when Qur'an and sunnah are read together, violent jihad is the necessary outcome.
nevertheless, there is a group of Muslims who reject the Sunnah and only accept the Qur'an. They translate Quranic verses using the direct meaning of the Arabic. For instance: "kafir/kafirun" is not: unbeliever-s, but: someone-s who resist.
The interesting thing is: there exists a peaceful islam on the basis of the Qur'an alone.
And of course, the radical sunnites and shi'ites loathe them because they are the only group that can easily discredit violent jihad from the Quranic sources itself.
Check them out at http://www.free-minds.org
at January 10, 2005 11:49 AM
Yea DC But they could play it more often to warn the people!!
Muslims must now consider themselves at war.
"And I declare we should ourselves join the global Islamic camp against the global crusade camp," he said.
What violated the covenant, according to Sheikh Omar, was the anti-terrorist legislation introduced in the United Kingdom after the 9/11 attacks. If the British government would review these policies and release those detained without trial in Belmarsh prison and elsewhere, Muslims could live at peace in Britain. Otherwise, they must prepare themselves to fight.
this is why you can not let them take your guns!!
He said the tready was broken?? What Tready they are the ones who moved to Britian??
So this was their Plan all along and G,W,Bush was Right and this is a world wide war!!
SHORT SKIRTS WORTH FIGHTING FOR!!
Part of the American Tribe
Spider Killer
Squirrel Hunter
GOD BLESS THE USA AND HER FIGHTING FORCES AND ALL WHO FIGHT WITH ER GIVE THEM STRENGTH,WISDOM,SIGHT AND COURAGE TO STAY THE COURSE TO VICTORY TO DESTROY ALL ISLAMIC ETRRORIST AND ALL WHO SUPPORT THEM OPEN THE WORLDS EYES TO THEIR THREAT AND GIVE THE WORLD COURAGE TO STAND AND FIGHT THEM AMEN
PS
THIS IS WHAT THEY ARE DOING AROUND THE WORLD??
Muslims must now consider themselves at war.
"And I declare we should ourselves join the global Islamic camp against the global crusade camp," he said.
What violated the covenant, according to Sheikh Omar, was the anti-terrorist legislation introduced in the United Kingdom after the 9/11 attacks. If the British government would review these policies and release those detained without trial in Belmarsh prison and elsewhere, Muslims could live at peace in Britain. Otherwise, they must prepare themselves to fight.
Bukhari:V7B67N427 “The Prophet said, ‘If I take an oath and later find something else better than that, then I do what is better and expiate my oath.’”
Qur’an 9:3 “Allah and His Messenger dissolve obligations.”
Qur’an 66:1 “Allah has already sanctioned for you the dissolution of your vows.”
Bukhari:V4B52N268 “Allah’s Apostle said, ‘War is deceit.’”
NOW IN YOUR BACKYARD BECAUSE YOU WANTED TO SHOW HOW NICE A PEOPLE YOU WERE??
Qur’an 33:11 “In that situation the Believers were sorely tried and shaken as by a tremendous shaking. And behold! The Hypocrites and those in whose hearts is a disease said: ‘Allah and His Messenger promised us nothing but delusion; they have promised only to deceive us.”
EARTHQUAKE AND KILLER WAVE KILLS 115,000 MULSUMS??
Qur’an 33:14 “Say: Flight will not avail you if you flee from death, killing, or slaughter. In that case you will not be allowed to enjoy yourselves but a little while. Say, ‘Who will screen you, saving you from Allah if he intends to harm and injure you?’”
AND WE HAVE 31,000 DEAD IN BAM IRAN AND NOW 115,000 FROM THE KILLER WAVE ALL MULSUMS SO THEY FOLLOW THE WRONG THOSE WHO WANT TO KILL NON-MULSUMS??
BRITIAN GIVE YOUR GUNS BACK TO YOUR NON-MULSUMS!!!
Posted by: Catherine
at January 10, 2005 11:56 AM
I disagree there Megan.
On my last trip to the glorious United States of America (2003) the Muslim/Arab looking types were definatly being profiled through passport control.
We all had to be there 3hrs (2 before 9/11) before the flight departure for a thorough security check, but out of the queue guess who were the ones who got picked for the 'special wand-detector' treatment?
You guessed it.
And good on the U.S security too. After all if it were the Methodists flying planes in to your buildings I'd hope your security would pick them out of any flight I'm about to embark on.
Regards,
KC
at January 10, 2005 12:06 PM
Curses, the link to UPI has gone. I wanted to send it to some people I know.
More and more people are realising that Jihadists are not fringe Moslems, analogous to the type of Christian who attacks abortion clinic, but that they are the mainstream.
Even if in numbers it is a case of the tail wagging the dog.
I hope that's not insulting to faithful, loyal, hard working hounds and canines everywhere.
at January 10, 2005 12:14 PM
If this doesn't qualify as religious hatespeech then I don't know what does. This man needs to be arrested just like those BNP guys a few weeks ago.
Posted by: Leveller
at January 10, 2005 12:56 PM
Bakri was asked his position about the attack and killing of 60 tourists in Luxor,Eygpt, by a Journalist.
Bakri answered "...the tourists went to Egypt with manners and conduct that conflict with those of Islam, the manners of alcoholism,indecency and gambling.Those people are out of line with Islam and I cannot discuss their business. We believe in the principle of establishing Shari'ah even if this means the death of all human beings."
Alarmed, the Interviewer asked."Even if this leads to the death of all Mankind?"
Bakri confidentially replied "EVEN IF THIS LEADS TO THE DEATH OF ALL MANKIND!"
Why hasn't this Murderous Jihardi been picked up a long time ago??
at January 10, 2005 1:21 PM
Bakri's comments bring to mind the issue of the silence of moderate Muslims.
What piques my curiosity is why do moderates put up with takfir from self-serving Moonbats such as Omar Bakri? Why would they tolerate being labeled an infidel? They should be tearing this wanker's lungs out.
at January 10, 2005 2:03 PM
What piques my curiosity is why do moderates put up with takfir from self-serving Moonbats such as Omar Bakri? Why would they tolerate being labeled an infidel? They should be tearing this wanker's lungs out.
Posted by: Mike at January 10, 2005 02:03 PM
Because??
PREDESTINATION:
Tabari I:202 “There are people who consider predestination untrue. Then they consider the
Qur’an untrue…. People merely carry out what is a foregone conclusion, decided by predestination and written down by the Pen.”
Qur’an 97:1 “We have revealed it (the Qur’an) in the Night of Predestination.”
Bukhari:V6B60N473 “Every created soul has his place written for him either in Paradise or in the Hell Fire. His happy or miserable fate is predetermined for him.”
Bukhari:V6B60N473 “While we were in a funeral procession, Allah’s Apostle said, ‘Every created soul has his place written for him either in Paradise or in Hell. They have a happy or miserable fate predestined for them.’ A man said, ‘Apostle! Shall we depend upon what is written and give up doing deeds? For whoever is destined to be fortunate, will join the fortunate and whoever is destined to be miserable will go to Hell.’”
Tabari I:306 “The Messenger said, “Allah created Adam and then rubbed Adam’s back with his right hand and brought forth his progeny. Then He said, ‘I have created these as the inhabitants of Paradise.’ Then he rubbed his back with His left hand and said, ‘I have created those for the Fire, and they will act as the inhabitants of the Fire.’ A man asked, ‘O Messenger, how is that?’ Muhammad replied, ‘When Allah creates a human being for Paradise, He employs him to act as the inhabitants of Paradise, and he will enter Paradise. And when Allah creates a human being for the Fire, He will employ him to act as the inhabitants of the Fire, and will thus make him enter the Fire.’”
Tabari I:305 “Then Allah rubbed Adam’s back and brought forth his progeny. And every living being to be created by Allah to the Day of Resurrection came forth. He scattered them in front of him like tiny ants. He took two handfuls and said to those on the right, ‘Enter Paradise! And He said to the others, ‘Enter the Fire! I do not care.’”
Qur’an 70:1 “A questioner questioned concerning the doom about to fall upon the infidels, which none can avert or repel.”
Bukhari:V4B55N550 “The Prophet said, ‘Allah has appointed an angel in the womb, and the angel says, “Lord, a drop of semen discharge. Lord, a clot, Lord, a piece of flesh.” And then, if Allah wishes to complete the child’s creation, the angel will say. Lord, male or a female? Lord, wretched or blessed in religion? What will his livelihood be? What will his age be?” The angel writes all this while the child is in the womb of its mother.’”
Bukhari:V4B54N430 “Allah’s Apostle, the true and truly inspired said, ‘Regarding the matter of the creation of a human being: humans are put together in the womb of the mother in forty days. Then he becomes a clot of thick blood for a similar period. He becomes a piece of flesh for forty days. Then Allah sends an angel who is ordered to write four things: the new creature’s deeds, livelihood, date of death, and whether he will be blessed or wretched. He will do whatever is written for him.’”
Bukhari:V7B71N665 “The Prophet said, ‘No contagious disease is conveyed without Allah’s permission.’”
Qur’an 48:14 “To Allah belongs the sovereignty of the heavens and the earth: He forgives whom He wills, and He punishes whom He pleases.”
Qur’an 52:7 “Verily the Doom and torment of your Lord will surely come to pass; there is none that can avert it or ward it off.”
Qur’an 64:11 “No calamity occurs, no affliction comes, except by the decision and preordainment of Allah.”
Qur’an 3:145 “No person can ever die except by the permission of Allah, the term being fixed as by writing.”
Ishaq:395 “No soul can die but by Allah’s permission in a term that is written.”
JUST LIKE THE MULSUM BOY OF 15 WILL KILL HIS GRIL FRIEND ON THE TV SHOW 24 ON FOX??
Part of the American Tribe
Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
God Bless the USA and her Fighting Forces and ALL who Fight with them give them Strength, Wisdom, Sight, and Courage to stay the course to Victory[FREEDOM] to Destroy ALL Islamic Terrorist and ALL who Support them Open the Worlds Eyes to their Threat Amen
at January 10, 2005 2:24 PM
The maniacs advertise their intentions nakedly.
Time to reply.
Preferably with the same treatment some of the deadliest escaped Nazis were given by the British secret service after WW II, when squads of assassins went throughout Europe and picked off the craziest Aryan nutjobs (former death camp figures, etc.) who had eluded the legal Nuremberg system through identity-changing cunning or destruction of records.
The Muslim extreme needs pruning. To leave the others in the not-yet-extreme camp of Islam with a clear signal:
Shoot off your mouth and we will shoot off you mouth.
Or, in the words of Horace, for all of us watching the British response:
"It is your own house that is at stake when your neighbor's wall is ablaze."
("Nam tua res agitur, paries cum proximus ardet.")
Posted by: profitsbeard
at January 10, 2005 3:04 PM
Here is an Al Bakri gem that sums up this guys worldview:
Al-Muhajiroun Manifesto – July 2004Some paradise on earth, eh? I give him two points for at least being publicly honest about the whole affair. Now the Royal Marines need to drop him off somewhere in the mountains of Afghanistan where he can take the next step on his path to Paradise, complements of the United States Special Forces.
If the Shari’ah was indeed implemented in Britain let us have no doubts that Britain would look very different to what it does today:-
Economically: The sale of alcohol or pork would be prohibited, gambling would be outlawed. The currency would change from paper money to the use of Gold as standard, thereby eradicating inflation. Stocks and shares would be prohibited as would insurance, interest based transactions and the current company structures - all of this would be replaced with a unique economic system encouraging distribution of wealth, banning exploitation and hoarding and ensuring transactions are done where the goods are tangible, the services specified and the companies are real. Man would be the trustee of God’s wealth on Earth promoting investment of it to please God – as in Jihad to conquer other lands to spread the law and order of Islam.
Socially: There would be no pubs for example, and night-clubs, porn shops or other places of entertainment between men and women, encouraging promiscuity and sexual deviancy (such as homosexuality) will be banned. Both men and women will be required to cover themselves properly in public – with women wearing the Khimar and Jilbab (headscarf and long barrel shaped dress) and men covering at least from the navel to the knees at all times. Segregation (between men and women) in all public places will be enforced. All exploitation of the sexes in any way or form would be outlawed – even to employ someone for use of their femininity or masculinity (such as is done today with secretaries and air-stewardesses) would be prohibited, rather people will only be employed for their own skills and talents. All public adverts using men and women to sell products would be banned and Judges would roam the streets and markets accompanied by police to implement and maintain the Islamic public order.
Judicially: The Islamic judicial system would be implemented where adulterers would be stoned to death and thieves would have their hands cut. There would be no jury service or solicitors or barristers – rather Judges qualified in Islamic Law would preside over all cases and Judge according to God’s law. If there is any doubt on the guilt of the accused, even it is unreasonable or unlikely, any punishment would be left out. Maximum jail sentences will be one year and concentration would be on reform as opposed to locking the problem away. The State will ensure that only the most qualified and trustworthy Muslims will preside as Judges and justice will be available to all free of charge – as opposed to only those able to afford expensive barristers and solicitors.
Education: There would be compulsory Islamic education for all with Arabic being the national language so that the people can properly read and understand the Qur’an. False ideas such as evolution and the equality of religions and corrupt subjects such as music, drama and art would not be taught. Rather every subject will be linked to the relationship with God and new subjects such as Islamic concepts, Shari’ah law and Islamic Jurisprudence will be introduced to the curriculum. Other subjects such as science and mathematics will be cleansed of any concepts contradictory to divine revelation. History from an Islamic perspective will be studied. There will also be an emphasis upon boys to have military training so that they can participate in Jihad after they become 15 years old and an emphasis upon girls to learn those subjects such as cooking, managing the household and looking after and bringing up children to train them properly for their roles as mothers in the future.
May Allah (SWT) grant us the implementation of the Shari’ah and the removal of servitude to man in Britain sooner rather than later.
at January 10, 2005 3:26 PM
I don't think predestination satisfies me, Catherine. I recall Sheik Kabbani of the Islamic Supreme Council of America calling Wahhabism a heresy because of its penchant for takfir. Where is such criticism in the UK from moderate Muslims?
Posted by: Mike
at January 10, 2005 3:34 PM
Posted by: Mike at January 10, 2005 03:34 PM
They speak but can you trust what they say??
Look at the mulsum marine who ran away??
Have you learned nothing??
Harden you heart and hear what it says by what you have learned They lie LIE LIE until they feel strong enough to take over they feel strong every where but in the USA because the American People have the ways and Means to protect themselves we have our GUNS!!!!
Speaking of peace and killing at the same time is what the palis do and you know them to be liers!!!
Harden your heart!! And Fight with what they fight with!!!
Part of the American Tribe
Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
GOD BLESS THE USA AND HER FIGHTING FORCES AND ALL WHO FIGHT WITH HER GIVE THEM STRENGTH, WISDOM, SIGHT, AND COURAGE TO STAY THE COURSE TO VICTORY TO DESTROY ALL ISLAMIC TERRORIS AND ALL WHO SUPPORT THEM AMEN
PS
THIS IS WHAT THE BELIEVE??
CHRISTIANS:
Qur’an 5:17 “Verily they are disbelievers and infidels who say, ‘The Messiah, son of Mary, is God.’”
Qur’an 5:51 “Believers, take not Jews and Christians for your friends. They are but friends and protectors to each other.”
Qur’an 5:72 “They are surely infidels who blaspheme and say: ‘God is Christ, the Messiah, the son of Mary.’ But the Messiah only said: ‘O Children of Israel! Worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord.’”
Qur’an 74:31 “We have appointed nineteen angels to be the wardens of the Hell Fire. We made a stumbling-block for those who disbelieve and We have fixed their number as a trial for unbelievers in order that the People of the Book may arrive with certainty, and that no doubts may be left for the People of the Book, those in whose hearts is a disease.”
Ishaq:180 “According to my information, the Apostle often sat by a young Christian slave named Jabr. The Meccans said, ‘He is the one who teaches Muhammad most of what he brings.’ Then Allah revealed,
Qur’an 16:103 ‘We know what they (pagans) say: “It is only a mortal man who teaches him (Muhammad). But the tongue of the man they wickedly point to is notably foreign, while this (Qur’an) is pure Arabic.’”
Qur’an 72:15 “But the Qasitun (disbelievers) are the firewood of hell.”
Qur’an 88:1 “Has the narration reached you of the overwhelming (calamity)? Some faces (Jews and Christians) that Day, will be humiliated, downcast, scorched by the burning fire, while they are made to drink from a boiling hot spring.”
Qur’an 9:29 “Fight those who do not believe in Allah or the Last Day, who do not forbid that which has been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, or acknowledge the Religion of Truth (Islam), (even if they are) People of the Book (Christians and Jews), until they pay the Jizyah tribute tax in submission, feeling themselves subdued and brought low.” [Another translation says:] “pay the tax in acknowledgment of our superiority and their state of subjection.”
Ishaq:552 “The Quraysh had put pictures in the Ka’aba including two of Jesus and one of Mary. Muhammad ordered that the pictures should be erased.”
Qur’an 5:14 “From those, too, who call themselves Christians, We made a covenant, but they forgot and abandoned a good part of the message that was sent them: so we estranged them, stirred up enmity and hatred among them to the Day of Doom. Soon will Allah show them the handiwork they have done.”
Qur’an 5:15 “O People of the Book! There has come to you Our Apostle, revealing to you much that you used to hide in your Scripture, suppressing and passing over much. There has come to you from Allah a (new) light (Muhammad) and a clear Book [the Qur’an].”
Qur’an 5:17 “...Say (Muhammad): ‘Who then has the least power against Allah, if His will were to destroy Christ, the Messiah, the son of Mary, his mother, and everyone else on earth?”
Qur’an 5:18 “The Jews and the Christians say: ‘We are sons of Allah, and his beloved.’ Say: ‘Why then does He punish you for your sins? Nay, you are but men. He forgives whom He wishes and punishes whom He pleases.’”
Qur’an 5:35 “Believers, fear Allah and seek the way to approach Him, striving hard, fighting Jihad with all your might in His Cause that you may be successful. As for the disbelievers [previously defined as Christians], if they had everything on earth, two times over, to give as ransom for the penalty of the Day of Doom, it would never be accepted from them. Theirs will be a painful torment. They will desire to get out of the fire, but they shall not be released from it. They shall have an everlasting torture.”
QUR’an 5:47 “Let the people of the Gospel judge by what Allah has revealed therein. If any fail to judge by what Allah has revealed, they are (no better than) those who rebel.”
Qur’an 5:48 “To you [Christians] We sent the Scripture in truth, confirming the scripture that came before it, and guarding it in safety: so judge between them by what Allah has revealed.”
Qur’an 5:49 “And this (He commands): Judge between them by what Allah has revealed and follow not their [Christian] desires, but beware of them lest they beguile you, seducing you away from any of that which Allah hath sent down to you. And if they turn you away [from being Muslims], be assured that for their crime it is Allah’s purpose to smite them. Truly most men are rebellious.”
Qur’an 5:57 “Believers, take not for friends those who take your religion for a mockery or sport, a joke, whether among those who received the Scripture before you or among those who reject Faith; but fear Allah.”
Qur’an 5:68 “Say: ‘People of the Scripture Book! You have no ground to stand upon unless you observe the Taurat [Torah], the Injeel [Gospel], and all the Revelation that has come to you from your Lord.’ It is certain to increase their rebellion and blasphemy. But grieve you not over unbelieving people.”
Qur’an 5:73 “They are surely disbelievers who blaspheme and say: ‘God is one of three in the Trinity for there is no Ilah (God) except One, Allah. If they desist not from saying this (blasphemy), verily a grievous penalty will befall them—the disbelievers will suffer a painful doom.”
Qur’an 4:54 “Are they jealous and envious what Allah has given them of his bounty? But We had already given the house of Abraham the Book, and conferred upon them a grand kingdom. Some of them believed, and some of them averted their faces from him. And Hell is sufficient for their burning. Those who reject our Signs, We shall soon cast into the Fire. As often as their skin is burnt and singed, roasted through, We shall change it for fresh skin, so that they may go on tasting the torment.”
at January 10, 2005 4:09 PM
I'm going to post this same message in several topics here at JW today...
I have a couple of graphic files saved as PDFs. Both are great to e-mail to your friends about the dangers of islam. If you want a copy, email me at sidlawson@gmail.com and I'll send them to you.
I don't know how else to enable you to get copies. I've asked RS if he wanted copies so he could put them here at JW, but got no answer from him. So I'll send them to you if you want them - email me and I'll send them to you.
My gmail account is secure, and SusanB knows me (but not by the name of Sid).
If anyone else here in this forum has a web site wherein he/she could provide these files as a link for downloading (and not be afraid of getting murdered by an islamist here in the USA), please let me know. EVERYONE should be sending these anti-islamist PDFs to their friends, posting them in their churches and schools, putting them on windshields at the mall, DROPPING THEM FROM AIRPLANES.
Sid
Posted by: Sid Lawson
at January 10, 2005 4:32 PM
Amen, Catherine. I most certainly exercise my Second Amendment rights, Smith & Wesson style. In fact, I even bought my wife this cute little number:
http://www.firearms.smith-wesson.com/store/index.php3?cat=294660&item=831468&sw_activeTab=2
It takes .38 or .357 caliber ammo (hollow point shells for jihadists) and the low-profile hammer is ideal for drawing the weapon from a purse without the gun dischargeing.
Now she's ready for the G. Gordon Liddy calendar!
at January 10, 2005 4:32 PM
Guess who's offended by Fox's 24 episode......
I'll give you a hint...It starts with C, and ends with AIR....
Whiney shits don't like this because it exposes terrorist strategies. Too bad for you CAIR, no one cares if you get offended. Who are you? Nobody at all. Just a little group of extremists whose day is soon coming.
You should leave America as soon as you get the chance. Your frame of thought doesn't fit in American society.
Posted by: Prickzilla
at January 10, 2005 5:06 PM
CAIR's moaning and groaning
http://www.cair-net.org/default.asp?Page=articleView&id=35687&theType=NB
Write polite comments to Fox and tell them you're offended, or something like that.
Posted by: Prickzilla
at January 10, 2005 6:08 PM
A thought has occurred to me that people didn't take Adolf Hitler and Mein Kampt seriously either - until it was too late! A shot between the eyes could remove this Islamo Nazi before he gets a chance to do more harm...
Posted by: Morgane
at January 10, 2005 6:48 PM
Morgane-
RE:
"The Koran" = "Mein Kampf".
(see: http://jihad-for-idiots.blogspot.com )
Someone said of the 'intellectuals' of the past:
"Hitler always told the truth and no one believed him. Stalin always lied, and everyone believed him."
Both brought the world more misery than it had known since Genghis Khan, Atilla and The Black Death.
Islam will make all three together look like an attack of spitballs.
Since neither Hitler nor Stalin had a 'God' behind their madness to prop it up eternally and
Absolutely
As old Terentianus Maurus noted:
"The fate of the book depends on the capacity of the reader.".
Posted by: profitsbeard
at January 10, 2005 8:59 PM
This is pretty funny read this especially at the end
from www.landoverbaptist.org
Kids! Accept Jesus Christ as Your Lord and Savior and Get a Free PlayStation 2!
This offer is for children and teenagers only! It may not be used in conjunction with any other Landover Baptist salvation offer.
Hey kids! If your Mom and Dad didn't buy you a PlayStation 2 for Christmas, you can still get one FOR FREE! Have you ever heard of Jesus Christ? Well, He's heard of you! And He wants you to have all the cool toys your parents are too cheap to buy! In fact, the Lord Jesus is very upset with your parents that they didn't give you all the latest stuff that every kid in America deserves! And Jesus has got your back, because He is your homeboy! If you've never heard of Jesus, He is an invisible cloud-dwelling deity (infinite lives!) who loves you very much and wants nothing more than to give you a free PlayStation 2!
We here at Landover Baptist Church work full-time as servants of Jesus Christ, and He's told us about you and your predicament. He's also given us special instructions on how He wants us to deliver a new PlayStation 2 to your house. It's as easy as 1-2-3! Understand, Jesus cares WAY more about you than your parents EVER will! They will never love you as much as Jesus loves you! Always remember that. If you hate your parents because they didn't get you a PlayStation 2 for Christmas, He completely understands! He is totally down with that! In fact, lucky for you, in order to follow Him, you are actually required to hate your parents!
"If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother...he cannot be my disciple." - The Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 14:26)
Pretty cool, huh? So, if you hate your parents, you are already halfway to becoming a True Christian™! Congratulations!
Here is what you need to do to get your free Play Station 2:
1. Tell Jesus that you hate your parents, and that you'd rather have Him for your Daddy. Ask Him to forgive your sins, and cover you with His blood (you'll see plenty of that splattered across your TV when you play your complimentary Grand Theft Auto 3 game!).
2. Find one of your Mom or Dad's credit cards (a blank check is even better!)
3. Call our church office and we will provide you with simple instructions on how to use your parents' credit card to charge a love offering over the phone. Don't worry if you can't find a credit card. We can teach you how to use one of your daddy's checks to do an automatic draft withdrawal (which will get you free shipping and an extra game disk!)
Please note: If your parents ask you where you got your new PlayStation 2, just tell them that your Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, delivered it to you via the U.S. Postal Service in exchange for your soul.
Still NOT SURE? Here's More:
Landover Baptist's PlayStation 2 comes with a complimentary modified version of the popular disk, Tony Hawk's Underground. You can upload Jesus' face into the game and automatically unlock all of the cheat codes to "God Mode," so that Jesus can win every single level and perform incredible grab-tricks, spins, flips and stunts!
As a new Christian, you will want to share the good news of Jesus Christ with as many of your "peeps in the hood" as you can. The great thing about Tony Hawk's Underground is that you can actually get off of your skateboard and walk around in the game and talk to other skaters about the Plan of Salvation! And if they don't accept Jesus as their Personal Savior, you can kill them later. How cool is that!?
In addition, if you are interested in Christian computer games, Landover Baptist children use Bible-based-maps and characters in Unreal Tournament as part of their Christian Soldier training to help Jesus slaughter sinners in the final battle of Armageddon (which God willing, will happen during President George W. Bush's second term). Remember to tell your parents to vote for GW in 2004, so that you can meet Jesus real soon and thank Him personally for all the cool stuff He is going to be sending you through this and other super-cool Landover Baptist Kids promotions this year!
Wha happened to the nice peaceful Christians u guys were talking about, Jesus will slaugther sinners? What happened to love your enemies or turn the other cheeks? Ha ha look at your own religion before critisizing others.
at January 10, 2005 9:13 PM
Crusadewatcher I'm guessing you couldn't tell that was a spoof website.
at January 10, 2005 10:11 PM
Crusadewatcher-
The minor and petty stupidities of one faith (playstation b.s.) do not blind those at JW/DW to the calamitously grotesque and world-historically monstrous horrors of another. (AKA Islam.)
But then all of those Christian (etc.) websites calling for the conquest of the world and imposition of Mosaic Law are so damned common that I'm surprised you didn't mention them.
Plus all of the sites showing Christians [Hindus, Jews, Shintoists, Buddhists, Taoists, etc.) beheading their captives because they belong to the wrong creed.
The Koran is mind doom.
It preaches locking the free intellect away forever in its 7th century dogmatic darkness.
I'll take a playstation over a pedophile anyday.
Theocratic tyrannies were tried by Christians (etc.) in the past, and failed.
We've learned. You haven't.
Control your maniacs.
We've already suceeded.
It's called secular rule of law.
S.H.A.R.I.A. apparently stands for:
Stop Having Any Real Intelligence Anywhere.
You demonstrate its effects perfectly.
Opposed to you is the latent iron will of the West.
And know:
"L'homme n'est qu'un roseau, le plus faible de la nature, mais c'est roseau pensant."- B.Pascal
("Man is only a reed, the weakest thing in nature, but he is a thinking reed.")
Posted by: profitsbeard
at January 10, 2005 10:19 PM
S.H.A.R.I.A. apparently stands for:
Stop Having Any Real Intelligence Anywhere.
profitsbeard, that's a good one! Crusadewatcher appears to be mentally challenged. He can't tell the difference between satire and religion, but that isn't surprising, all things considered. Islam tends to rot the brain.
Posted by: Susanp
at January 10, 2005 11:19 PM
IS IT POSSIBLE? VAPORIZING THE HORNETS NEST?
What is frowned on being posted here, what many of us have often thought--and are still thinking, may not be as far-fetched as we have been led to believe. http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=42272
Posted by: unicorns62000
at January 10, 2005 11:19 PM
unicorns62000-
The link seems like unstrategic pipedreaming.
Mecca is mainly a pile of old useless stones.
Bin Laden would love to see the provocation of the destruction of a (rebuildable) 'holy' site by the 'crusader' infidels. (The early quasi-Muslims themselves fought over the Kaaba's most sacred 'black stone' and smashed it to pieces in tribal warfare, then 'glued' it back together and inserted it in the Meccan central structure. [Or, maybe it was a substitute black rock -faked to keep peace and power?])
Nuking Mecca would cheer the most fanatical Muslims, Bin Laden at the top of the roster, since it would only serve to rally their global troops. (How many live IN Mecca?)
If the Islamic fanatics need a warning of retribution for any outrageous attacks by them on the West, there are better targets for these psychopaths to have to worry about. Mecca and Medina would be low on the list (but should be there, also).
I think they would be more concerned both in the Osama camp, and among Islam at large, if they KNEW that the people whom they attacked would respond by vaporizing, NOT Mecca, but 100 times the number of Bin Laden's co-religionists.
In the event of a great number of 'infidels' killed in a terrorist WMD attack on the West, all bets are off.
And all targets are ON.
at January 11, 2005 12:38 AM
Everyone-
A message from Susan_b:
"I'm really sorry that I haven't had a chance to answer everyone's email yet. Work this weekend became very hectic and I will sit down tonight, go back through them and get to everyone, once I get home."
Thank You,
Posted by: crusader rabbit
at January 11, 2005 1:12 AM
"S.H.A.R.I.A. apparently stands for:
Stop Having Any Real Intelligence Anywhere.
You demonstrate its effects perfectly."
Your assessment, profitsbeard, is spot on.
What I find amazing is how Muslims cannot see how their very philosophy CREATES the hellhole they cannot wait to escape. They must think that if they continue to do what it is they are doing then one day, miraculously, they will get it right. Then, they will overcome the non-Muslim west and replace them with even greater wonders than Western Culture has produced to date. I once heard the definition of insanity: "To keep doing the same thing with the same results and not learn from your mistakes and do it differently the next time." This EXEMPLIFIES Islam completely.
There is a reason why the Christian West has created a superior culture with science and technology. There is a reason why Islam is backward and illiterate. Unfortunately, Muslims don't ask themselves the crucial questions: "Why are we so far behind the West? What are we doing that keeps us behind? And, what are they doing that works?" If they began asking these questions honestly and sincerely, then maybe there would be hope for the progression of their society. They need to do this, instead of dying from envy of the other culture's success.
One things for sure, if Britain were ever to fall under the domination of Sharia, it would become a desert wasteland within 15 years.
Posted by: paula
at January 11, 2005 2:25 AM
"S.H.A.R.I.A. apparently stands for:
Stop Having Any Real Intelligence Anywhere.
You demonstrate its effects perfectly."
Your assessment, profitsbeard, is spot on.
What I find amazing is how Muslims cannot see how their very philosophy CREATES the hellhole they cannot wait to escape. They must think that if they continue to do what it is they are doing then one day, miraculously, they will get it right. Then, they will overcome the non-Muslim west and replace them with even greater wonders than Western Culture has produced to date. I once heard the definition of insanity: "To keep doing the same thing with the same results and not learn from your mistakes and do it differently the next time." This EXEMPLIFIES Islam completely.
There is a reason why the Christian West has created a superior culture with science and technology. There is a reason why Islam is backward and illiterate. Unfortunately, Muslims don't ask themselves the crucial questions: "Why are we so far behind the West? What are we doing that keeps us behind? And, what are they doing that works?" If they began asking these questions honestly and sincerely, then maybe there would be hope for the progression of their society. They need to do this, instead of dying from envy of the other culture's success.
One things for sure, if Britain were ever to fall under the domination of Sharia, it would become a desert wasteland within 15 years.
Posted by: paula
at January 11, 2005 2:26 AM
sorry about the double post. :-(
Posted by: paula
at January 11, 2005 2:27 AM
profitsbeard,
The obliteration of the spiritual center would be symbolic, I agree. Rebuilding would be a problem, however, as they would have to start from scratch, breaking the glass crust after the radiation levels were safe, finding a stone, etc.
As for further enraging them, or rallying them, it would not necessarily make them more effective. There are already millions if not billions of idle young ones eager to die for their ideology.
Loss of lives does not appear to concern the remaining ones. Loss of armaments, means of transportation--especially by air--the use of financial instruments, water resources, electricity, sewage disposal, and like infrastructure, would restrain them. Those who want to bring back the dark ages, should not mind living in the dark ages again.
It doesn't take too much imagination to figure out how to retain energy sources.
Posted by: unicorns62000
at January 11, 2005 3:23 AM
CrusaderWatch,
You mention Luke 14:26. The word that Jesus used in Aramaic was soneh which means to put aside.
What this passage means is that one must love God more than one's own family.
Jesus tells us at other times to honour our father and mother, to love our neighbour as ourselves, even to love our enemies. But says that we must love God first then people next, so that if it is a choice between pleasing God and pleasing people we must please God.
Posted by: Elephant
at January 11, 2005 3:23 AM
OT,
I just found out that the questionaire had been put on site in a couple of places.
Here is a copy of the questionaire.
Now, I wasn't ready for this to be sent out yet. I intended to include the Mission statement of the group as soon as it was completed and also make a change to the questionaire its self.
I don't need to know address or city. I would like to know states though. The reason is, as we get better organized, I would like to start keeping track of where Islamic speakers are going to be and get our members to monitor it.
PACC QUESTIONNAIRE
In the interest of establishing our groups?s goals and coordinating the
activities of its individual members, we ask that you fill out this
questionnaire and return it to Susan as soon as possible. As always,
your confidentiality will be respected. Thank you for your assistance!
1) Name:
2) E-mail address:
3) City, state and country of residence:
4) In your opinion, what should be the goals of this group?
5) What are your particular interests, skills and experience?
6) What specific issues would you care to address or are currently
working on?
7) Are there any technical skills you are willing to contribute?
8) Do you wish to be share your e-mail address with the other group
members?
9) If the group establishes an identity, do you have any suggestions
for
a name?
10) Any additional suggestions, ideas, information, etc.?
I know that I have had many emails concerning this new group effort and a lot of people have made suggestions and offers to help, which all have been greatly appreciated, but, there was so much, this is the best way to get things more organized.
If everyone could fill this out and send it back, that would help alot. And, only fill in what you are comfortable with.
SusanB
at January 11, 2005 8:24 AM
Susan-
I have an e-mail headed your way about the issues you brought up, but my ISP is down at the moment. As soon as they bring us back up the reply will be headed your way.
Apologoes in advance for some of the chaos I may have inadvertently created - I explained everything in the e-mail, which might help.
at January 11, 2005 11:12 AM
Ugh! brain said "apologies", fingers typed apologoes.
I'll post a heads-up when Verizon gets me back on-line. I have Internet, but no e-mail at the moment.
If you like I can edit the letter and post it at the Yahoo Group. If there's anything sensitive I'll e-mail it later. Let me know.
at January 11, 2005 11:15 AM
Does violence comfort this guy?
I have got a new idea - JIHAD - THE VIDEO GAME OF THE CENTURY!
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Posted by: Pass It On
at January 11, 2005 12:03 PM
HERE IS A NEW SIGN
ISLAMIC STATE - THAT WAY ----->
Posted by: Pass It On
at January 11, 2005 12:12 PM
Susan B-
My e-mail's back up. Message is on the way!
at January 11, 2005 12:54 PM
Here's a book I found in my local bookstore:
Holy War on the Home Front: The Secret Islamic
Terror Network in the United States
By Harvey Kushner, Bart Davis
I know it is preaching to the choir here, but it is
still a good read.
at January 11, 2005 2:47 PM
Here's another book along the same vein by Steve Emerson at the Investigative Project:
Posted by: Mike
at January 11, 2005 4:16 PM
I enjoy being a connoisseur of short skirts, beer and pork. Yea baby!
Posted by: Truth
at January 11, 2005 7:13 PM
Truth then your goning to live this guy!!
Thanks for the link butterfly You got to love this guy!!
http://www.landoverbaptist.org/news0105/liberals.html
Liberals Attempting to Escape to Canada Will Be Shot on Sight!
Landover Deacons Join Hunt for Liberals Crossing Canadian Border
Freehold, Iowa - After being duly deputized by longtime silver-level tither, John Brown -- regional INS director sitting in Des Moines -- 75 Landover Baptist Church deacons took up posts along the U.S.-Canadian border less than three weeks ago. “We weren’t about to let none of them weak-kneed, Blue-State liberals leave this country, especially with tax time right around the corner,” reported Pastor Hawkins, as he raised the scope on his high-powered AR-15 assault rifle from his post behind a clearing in a North Dakota forest. “Last week, I unloaded a half pound of lead into the hineys of two long-haired varmints running through the woods. It was sheer bad luck they turned out to be ugly Canadian farm women. Oh well, no real loss to either country.” The pastors were reacting to reports of a mass exodus of anti-Bush (anti-American, anti-Christian) citizens across the Canadian border. With Canada’s immigration service overwhelmed by applications of Americans seeking asylum since November 2nd, many traitors have attempted to covertly slip into the country. “So long as I have one index finger that can squeeze a trigger, no Communist is gittin’ by me,” railed Pastor Coleman from his post on a hill in northern Minnesota.
Unofficial reports cite at least 75 prevented border crossings in the brief period the church has assisted the immigration agency. Reverend Shortland set up an informal roadblock on Interstate-75 in Michigan. “A few questions usually reveal whether these folks are legitimate tourists or Bush-dodgers. I intercepted one family last week in a BMW with their radio tuned to NPR. The parents were drinking from Starbuck’s cups and both teenagers in the back were reading books, neither of which had “Holy” or “Bible” imprinted anywhere on the cover, as far as I could tell.” The reverend called ahead to the border patrol checkpoint where agents conducted full vehicle and body cavity searches. After discovering a copy of GMAT test results, two museum ticket stubs and an 401k portfolio receipt, agents turned the vehicle around and the family was escorted to a holding cell near Detroit. Pastor Skipwell successfully uncovered what can only be described as a contemporary underground railroad just outside Detroit. “A bunch of coloreds were sending hordes of unemployed auto workers in tunnels to the demonic north. I emptied my semi-automatic weapon at them, and the activity stopped, but I have no idea whether I actually killed anyone or just shot the night.”
Not all church members support the deacons’ actions. “I think it is a colossal waste of time,” observed Brother Harry Hardwick, Chair of the Board of Deacons. “Tracking down liberals is like trapping rats in Harlem. For every one you catch, there are a thousand that squeak away. And why do we care if they leave? So what if many pay the taxes that pay for the programs benefiting the rest of us, like those Godly farm supports Iowa corn farmers get? We don’t need the money. President Bush has shown his commitment to maintaining all the pork programs while massively expanding military spending without raising a single dime in taxes. Since he’s already run a higher deficit than any President in history, what difference will a few trillion additional dollars make?
Despite the initial success of the program, the deacons may be returning home soon because the White House has condemned their actions as unauthorized. An administration official, speaking on condition of anonymity, claimed the President’s latest position is not his typical boilerplate appeal to whatever is the prevailing popular sentiment, but is instead the product of a genuine desire to allow as many Democratic voters as possible to leave the country before the mid-term Congressional elections
AINT LETIN EM GO UNTIL THEY PAY THEM TAXES!!
Part of the American Tribe
Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
GOD BLESS THE USA AND HER FIGHTING FORCES AND ALL WHO FIGHT WITH HER GIVE THEM STERNGTH, WISDOM, SIGHT, AND COURAGE TO STAY THE COURSE TO VICTORY TO DESTROY ALL ISLAMIC TERRORIST AND ALL WHO SUPPORT THEM AMEN
PS
ROTFL Butterfly you get a Gold Star for that!!
at January 11, 2005 7:40 PM
I'm a bit late with this quote from The Barbabas Fund, the organisation to protect persecuted Christians but I will post for the sake of completeness of the archive. It's from a petition handed into the UN last year. Possibly it was a thread on JW at the time.
"But Barnabas points out that in April, Sheikh Omar Bakri Mohammed of the extremist Islamic organization al-Muhajiroun issued a fatwa condemning the Muslim Labour party peer Lord Ahmed of Rotherham as an apostate because of his calls for greater integration of Muslims into British society.
When even members of its own government are the victims of veiled threats as apostates surely this is an issue the British authorities must deal with both seriously and publicly," Barnabas says."
at January 12, 2005 3:27 PM


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