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May 5, 2005

Iraq: Why it's unrealistic to expect a separation of mosque and state

In Business Week (paid subscription required, so no direct link) Robert J. Barro of Harvard University discusses a model that considers economic and other factors in predicting the likelihood that a state religion will be established in a particular country. On this basis he thinks a secular state in Iraq is unlikely. His model also predicts something I discussed in Islam Unveiled: that Turkey will continue to be under pressure from political Islam until its secular and democratic character will be effaced altogether. From "Iraq: One Nation Under Allah" (thanks to Jerry Gordon):

Only a few Muslim countries have substantial representation in more than one category: Azerbaijan, Bahrain, Iraq, Kuwait, Oman, and Yemen. Some other Muslim countries -- Afghanistan, Pakistan, Syria, Turkey, and the United Arab Emirates -- are 10% to 20% Shiite. But our results suggest that overall Muslim share, not size of the most popular sect, is what influences the creation of state religion.

No model predicts perfectly, but ours gets the right answer more than 80% of the time. Thus, it is instructive that the model's probability for a state religion in Iraq is 96%. True, our method also gives neighboring Turkey an 88% probability for state religion, even though it has been officially secular for decades. One can view this mistaken prediction two ways. One is that, despite forces that favor state religion, Turkey can be a model for Iraq on how to separate church and state. The other is that Turkey's secular status represents hard-to-duplicate political influence by its strong President, Mustafa Kemal Atatürk, in the 1920s and '30s. Conceivably, the factors that favor a state religion will eventually generate an Islamic state in Turkey. That reversal seems more likely than Iraq's becoming a secular state.

Posted by Robert at May 5, 2005 6:53 AM
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Good download illustrating Wahabi rejection of the 2-jihad dogma, as non-sahih (not reliable).

http://www.as-sahwah.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=383&sid=78e97f625510d64ee3efbfeebc13f9fc

And in this one, the alleged Kafir status of the Ottomans is discussed,

http://www.as-sahwah.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=586&sid=78e97f625510d64ee3efbfeebc13f9fc

What I learned: the Saud terrorist entity that backs Wahabi savages, must be wiped out. And to hell with any corporation or political leader who would lose cash in that noble act of creative destruction.

Posted by: smokem [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 5, 2005 7:11 AM

Where's the ACLU and LIBERALS when you need 'em.

http://www.creationists.org/churchandstate.html

Posted by: Report [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 5, 2005 10:50 AM

We now have 115 AllahIsms and counting.
To see them all, go to: http://muslimsandme.blogspot.com/

Posted by: BillR [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 5, 2005 11:39 AM

Islam will now have a harder time in the United States as there are cadres of infidels rapidly learning about the what happens to cultures that are over run by Islam. It is unrealistic to believe that Muslims will quietly go along without trying to Islamize democracy and the American system regardless of what non-Muslims want.

Posted by: epg [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 5, 2005 2:34 PM

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