Please take time to e-mail stories like this to your State Congressmen and Senators. I have found it to be worth it. The Government doesn't hear or see us unless we show up in their office in the form of a phone call or an e-mail.

Otherwise, they have disconnected themselves from the American people. Please, hammer away at this by sending articles describing the ongoing terror and fraud related arrests of Muslims in America.

Chip away at the stone, which in this case are the rock solid melons sitting on top of the necks of our elected officials.

Posted by: DCWatson at May 5, 2005 4:53 PM

And to ask local newspapers why they seldom or never cover such things. Systematic avoidance of the matter is becoming too obvious to all. Perhaps one reason for the decline in the numbers of newspaper readers, cannot be attributed entirely to a decline in reading, or an ability to find what you want on the Internet. Surely the mis-coverage of Islam, of what it teaches, of the history of Islamic conquest, and the omissio of important stories that one then finds on the Internet, has been a major part of the loss of confidence. And The New Duranty Times is not even the worst offender. The more scanty or silly the coverage of the world's Jihad-and-dhimmitude news, the less likely readers will trust their newspapers on other matters.

Posted by: Hugh at May 5, 2005 5:18 PM

The father says the bag probably was left there by a burglar who had broken into the soldier's truck days earlier.

NOW WHERE WAS THE CONSERN FOR WHAT WAS IN THE BACKPAC LIKE HATE HIS HOST COUNTRY AND KILL JEWS??

COULD THERE HAVE BEEN OTHER THINGS IN THERE TO HELP THE TERRORIST HIT AMERICA WHY WAS HIS FATHER NOT ASHAME BECAUSE HIS SON IS A YELLOW COWARD WHO RUNS AWAU LIKE A GIRL!!

NO IT IS ALWAYS THE SAME WITH THESE PEOPLE NO SHAME JUST HATE FOR EVERY THING THAT IS GOOD!!

DCWatson your right send this story to captial hill!!

Part of the American Tribe
Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
God Bless the USA and her Fighting Forces and ALL who Fight with her give them Strength, Wisdom, Sight, and Courage to stay the course to Victory to Destroy ALL islamic Terrorist and ALL who Support them Open the Worlds Eyes to their Threat let not the World be Deceived by them Amen

Posted by: Catherine at May 5, 2005 5:19 PM

Yet another "misunderstander of Islam". Same as the Sergeant Akbar who rolled a grenade under an army tent killing and maiming his putative brothers in arms. Turns out his real brother in arms was Muhammad

Posted by: dennisw at May 5, 2005 5:30 PM

There is no doubt that Karim Iraq was "made to feel he was an outsider" only because of his arrogant attitude and feelings of superiority towards his infidel "brothers" in arms.

Is it his fellow soldier's fault that they did not agree with his hubris?

Posted by: Skeet Street at May 5, 2005 6:27 PM

"Broke into his truck and left the bag"? LOL

Gee, those Massad guys sure are sneaky...

/sarcasm off

Geoff

Posted by: Geoff at May 5, 2005 7:04 PM

good, thank you Robert Spencer

Posted by: juicealot at May 5, 2005 7:08 PM

What, may I ask, does this article have to do with Jihad? So this soldier is a free thinker (aka deserter). He has already served 2 deployments honorably.

From another article:

"[he] wanted to be discharged at the end of his contract, but the Army extended his term."

Stop loss. So the Army prevents him from leaving...hmmm.

Posted by: Shukri at May 5, 2005 7:11 PM

Thank you for believing in America. Though that may sound naive, you are a great man.

Posted by: juicealot at May 5, 2005 7:13 PM

"The father says the bag probably was left there by a burglar who had broken into the soldier's truck days earlier. " Yeah, that's the ticket!

Moose-limbs are contrarians.

Posted by: Carolyn2 at May 5, 2005 7:39 PM

Jihad doesn't come immediately as a full course meal.

It is a spoon-fed doctrine starting in infancy which comes to fruition in its blooms usually in postpubescence.

The short-hairs fester in the jihad soup, which is heavily spiced with anti-jewish, anti-christian and anti-everybody-non-muslim ingredients.

The hope of recovery from this food poisoning is possible for the prepubescent, but unattainable once the subject blossoms from germinated seeds.

Karim Iraq was in the springtime of his youth.

It appears that that youth may turn out to be spent.

Posted by: Skeet Street at May 5, 2005 7:52 PM

Greetings

While I think Muslims generally should be able to serve in the military, it seems commensensical that Arab foriegn born, naturalised Americans are of a different breed. A significant portion of Muslim soldiers hail, originally from outside the United States. They pose a unique risk that should be mitigated. In this regard I would not be opposed to a ban on prohibiting foriegn born Arab Muslim naturalised Americans from serving in the military.

I really love the childlike names used by posters for Muslims. Moose-limbs? Very intelligent, and very analytical... Note my sarcasm please.

Yours sincerely

Thomas Haidon

Posted by: Thomas at May 5, 2005 7:53 PM

Thank you, Thomas. Same here.

Posted by: Carolyn2 at May 5, 2005 8:01 PM

BTW, I was referred to as a "primate" last night. Kind of puts things in perspective, doesn't it? That is what I notice about muslim women, an air of superiority. Sure they think they have found all the answers, but we do not believe that they have. So who is right? Three so-called great religions, someone is wrong. I'll choose the belief that causes no harm to anyone. That's not the only reason, but for this forum, that's my answer.

Posted by: Carolyn2 at May 5, 2005 8:15 PM

O/T

ACLU

Roger Baldwin founded the ACLU in 1917 as the Bureau for Conscientious Objectors of the American Union Against Militarism. The name was changed to the Civil Liberties Bureau later that year when it became the National Civil Liberties Bureau after being raided by the FBI searching for evidence of subversive materials.

On November 11, 1918, Baldwin began serving a one-year term in a federal prison for sedition. Upon his release from prison in 1920, he renamed the organization the American Civil Liberties Union.

Roger Baldwin left no doubt as to the purpose of the ACLU. Here is his direct statement: "I am for socialism, disarmament and ultimately for abolishing the state itself as an instrument of violence and compulsion. I seek social ownership of property." And he concluded, "COMMUNISM IS THE GOAL."

Posted by: Cross at May 5, 2005 8:17 PM

Ahhhh... another muslim 'revert'..

when will it become PC to call them retards?

Posted by: Just_Linda at May 5, 2005 8:18 PM

Throw the book at this guy, too.

Posted by: Freedom1 at May 5, 2005 8:18 PM

shukri... every time you come on this board, I get the urge to puke. When I do so, for some reason allahakbarh,

Posted by: Just_Linda at May 5, 2005 8:32 PM

Oh, and P.S. There is NO SUCH THING AS A 'MUSLIM AMERICAN'!!! The sooner people wake up to this blatant fact, the better.

How many folks declare their citizenship with their religious beliefs as a preface?

I am a JEWISH American
I am a JEWISH Brit
I am a BUDDHIST American
I am a BUDDHIST Brit
I am a ATHIEST American
I am a CHRISTIAN American
I am a (fill in the blanks now) American... yada yada yada yada (oopes that 'yada' might be Jewish) but don't excuse me for being totally politically incorrect... see below:

Get it? Got it? Good! Now, get out. Get with the program, mobots...

Posted by: Just_Linda at May 5, 2005 8:40 PM

Hey, I'm a Christian American. If the USA makes my religion illegal, I'll either go to jail or emigrate permanently. In the meantime, though, I pay my taxes and pray for the peace and well-being of my country and that God would grant it wise leaders.

Posted by: Kepha at May 5, 2005 10:09 PM

I spoke with the Army face to face after akbar's attack.

I spoke of the Karim Iraq's and what was to come.

They weren't interested and ignored me.

So they will die, as they wish.

Posted by: Itai at May 6, 2005 12:28 AM

Dear Thomas,

You misspelled commonsensical.

Sincerely

Posted by: Cross at May 6, 2005 12:34 AM

Hello Thomas,

You misspelled naturalized.

Thanks

Posted by: Cross at May 6, 2005 12:40 AM

Thomas,

You misspelled foreign.

Before you criticize others on their spelling it would be advisable to check your own first.

Wouldn’t you agree?

Sincerely

Posted by: Cross at May 6, 2005 12:45 AM

Thomas,

You misspelled naturalized twice.Thought you may want to know.

Thanks

Posted by: Cross at May 6, 2005 12:48 AM

muslim In the US military? He should feel like an outsider. In fact, he should not be there at all.

Posted by: Havoc at May 6, 2005 1:11 AM

I have always understood that there is no such thing as a Muslim American or a French or British Muslim.
The notion of "a country" is surely a western notion
To Muslims,There are only NOn Muslim contolled and Muslim controlled territories.

since a Muslim can only be loyal to Islam and the Umma he can not accept or recognise "western fromtiers".
QED is it not a sin for a muslim to swear allegiance to a non islamic army and certainly a crime for a muslims to bear arms against other muslims.
Perhaps someone here knows the conditions that have to be fulfilled for a Muslim to fight alongside an infidel army?

Posted by: chevalier de st george at May 6, 2005 2:11 AM

This billboard is attracting a lot of attention
here.Great.
I would like to make a suggestion please
The chances are there will be new-comers to this site.
So in light of this could we all focus on the main issue of this site and focus more on the perils of islam.Over the last few days we have seen some old names coming back
Timbo
Kc
Catherine
Prophets beard
To name a few
We all have different views,left/right and some gooblygook but we all share the common goal exposing Islam.We should stop critizing each other[I know I am a big culprit]and make a combined effort to show newcomers here the perils that threaten mankind,Lets stop acting like a pack of rabib muzis
We now have a banner to unite under,

Posted by: shiva at May 6, 2005 2:28 AM

Cross

Point well taken. However, being a New Zealander I did spell naturalised correctly. I have no excuse for the others. However these were minor errors, not like some of the illegible attempts at posting like others make here.

Your sincerely

Thomas

Posted by: Thomas at May 6, 2005 2:42 AM

Thomas,

As a freethinker who has studied philosophy (Heraclitus to Henri Bergson) and comparative religion (finding the essence of the earliest Buddhism and the poetry of Taoism the least egomaniacal and dogmatically flawed), and have settled into a mix of thoughts from many sources (Epictetus, Lao Tzu, Sappho, Jesus, Buddha, Socrates, etc), since I find each single 'Holy Book' lacking, (or contaminated by human-all-too-human flaws that kill the spirit of it for my mind) I wondered what it was about Islam that attracted you? And held you?

Speaking simply as one who has read the Koran, -and the Torah, and New Testament, and Bhagavad Gita, and Popul Vuh, and the Tripitaka, etc., I don't get the same humane warmth from Mohammad's 'revelation' as in almost all other 'enlightened' scriptures. (It is too much like the worst of Deuteronomy for me.)

What about the Koran entices your soul?

Posted by: BigSleep at May 6, 2005 4:31 AM

Bi Sleep:

This is something that just doesn't click with Mohammedans: Comparative religion? Once indoctrinated the Islamic skull repells anything but bullets.

Sorry about being so blunt, but reason is not the islamic way. Winston Churchill compared Islamic fanaticism with " being as dangerous as hydrophobia in a dog"- I fear he was not wrong.

Now it is up to us to make things right!

Posted by: Terminator at May 6, 2005 4:55 AM

"What about the Koran entices your soul?"

The bling of warrior's sword? The power of the dark side?

Satan tricked Muhammad at least once:

Have ye thought upon al-Lat and al-Uzza
And Manat, the third, the other? (53:19,20)

Posted by: 1630r at May 6, 2005 5:08 AM

Dear Thomas,

You misspelled foreign, twice. The most correct English spelling of naturalized is naturalized not naturalised. You don't spell New Zealand as New Sealand do you? Zee my point?

Sincerely

Posted by: Cross at May 6, 2005 5:36 AM

Here here, Shiva, Here here.

Posted by: kc England at May 6, 2005 5:40 AM

Cross - both 'naturalised' and 'naturalized' are correct in British English, so I'd be surprizzzzed if it weren't the same in NZ.

What's your favOUrite colOUr???

Posted by: Interested at May 6, 2005 5:46 AM

Tomato Tamato whatever, point is Thomas caint spaell wurth a fark.

Interested theatre is correctly spelled theater and colour is correctly spelled color unless you are living in the 1690's or are trying to be trendy. Often is pronounced offen with a silent t. Oh crap I've just lost another minute and a half of my life.

Posted by: Cross at May 6, 2005 6:39 AM

On Topic,

Court-martial this moron, throw him in prison, case closed. To hell with this guy.

Posted by: Cross at May 6, 2005 7:18 AM

BillR:

I think that someone above was trying to post a new "allahism" : allah akBARF.

Posted by: CGW at May 6, 2005 7:47 AM

To all of the Americans above who carped about Thomas Haidon's use of "s" instead of "z" in "naturalize". Thomas is using that's Brit style spelling, so put a sock in it. I'm a Canadian and while I use the "z", I refer to it as the letter "zed" and not "zee" and will always spell the word "colour" and not "color", etc..

As for a Palestinian with the surname, "Iraq" -- suggests that perhaps his family may not have lived in "Palestine" from "time immemorial" but rather were immigrants to the region between the Med and the Jordan.

Posted by: waterdragon52 at May 6, 2005 8:56 AM

waterdragon52:

I think you missed the point.

The "carping" you refer to was a direct response to Haidon's rude, immature and uncalled-for criticism of Catherine's unique style of expression.

We don't really care about the British vs. American style of spelling - plus, Haidon committed numerous spelling errors in other posts that fall outside of that category.

Posted by: CGW at May 6, 2005 11:41 AM

There was a long list of Haidon's spelling errors on another thread - this is the second one.

Posted by: CGW at May 6, 2005 11:42 AM

Is there a spelling war going on? Children, children, let us set these tensions aside and remain focused on the issue at hand. Besides that, it's not NICE to criticize poor spelling.

Let's all pray (or just hope REALLY hard) that Jesus will begin to visit Shukri in his dreams. I hear that alot of Muslims are having dreams about Jesus these days and are being led to the Truth. May Christ's light shine upon you, Shukri.

Posted by: former liberal WF at May 6, 2005 11:42 AM

THOMAS IRK CROSS???
AIN'T WE BE TRYIONG COMMUNICATE NOW??
UNDERTANDABLITYIZED BY TRADEMARKED CATHATERIZMS????
BRITISH SPELLINGS BY NEW ZEALENDERS GROKED BY CANADIANS???
HARMONIZATION OF UTTERATIONS KNEEDED????

not to mention ...

I hear that alot of Muslims are having dreams about Jesus these days and are being led to the Truth.

LAWD!! WHERE DID U HERE THAT??? (marshalling an exhibit of self-control heretofore unseen in modern man f.g. resists the urge to strategically insert the word “wet” into the above quote)

f.g.
(all in jest) :):)

Posted by: f.g. at May 6, 2005 1:58 PM

This billboard is attracting a lot of attention
here.Great. . . could we all focus on the main issue of this site and focus more on the perils of islam.. .We all have different views,left/right and some gooblygook but we all share the common goal exposing Islam. We should stop critizing each other[I know I am a big culprit]and make a combined effort to show newcomers here the perils that threaten mankind,Lets stop acting like a pack of rabib muzis

We now have a banner to unite under,

Posted by: shiva at May 6, 2005 02:28 AM

Yeah! Three cheers, Shiva! It's such a WASTE OF OUR TIME to throw rocks at each other!

On Topic,

Court-martial this moron, throw him in prison, case closed. To hell with this guy.

Posted by: Cross at May 6, 2005 07:18 AM
BillR:

You betcha! In fact, he never should have been in the military in the first place. The whole thing brings up the concept of who can, in good conscience, swear (or affirm!) to uphold the Constitution. The subject should be a category in its own right that deserves our focused attention.

Look who takes an oath of allegiance to support the Constitution: Politicians taking office; military members; many government workers; judges. . .It goes on and on.

Since our Muslim friends can't, in good conscience, truthfully take that oath, that should, by all rights, exclude them from taking these positions.

That would go a LONG way in helping slow their progress, since taking these jobs is another of their methods of infiltrating (read Paul Sperry's book, "Infiltration") and ultimately taking over.

NO MUSLIM SHOULD BE IN ANY POSITION WHICH REQUIRES AN OATH TO UPHOLD THE CONSTITUTION!

I think that someone above was trying to post a new "allahism" : allah akBARF.

Posted by: CGW at May 6, 2005 07:47 AM

LOVE THAT, CGW!

Posted by: cubed at May 6, 2005 3:30 PM

cubed said: NO MUSLIM SHOULD BE IN ANY POSITION WHICH REQUIRES AN OATH TO UPHOLD THE CONSTITUTION!

Doesn't becoming a naturalized citizen require a similar oath? So wouldn't that have an impact on a Muslim's ability to pledge allegence to the flag, the country, etc.? If they can't pledge allegence to this country and its people they have no business trying to live here.

f.g.

Posted by: f.g. at May 6, 2005 3:40 PM

Doesn't becoming a naturalized citizen require a similar oath? So wouldn't that have an impact on a Muslim's ability to pledge allegence to the flag, the country, etc.? If they can't pledge allegence to this country and its people they have no business trying to live here.

f.g.

Posted by: f.g. at May 6, 2005 03:40 PM

Hi, f.g.,

You bet it does! See what I mean, people? It would really further our cause if oaths such as these were taken seriously, and not simply regarded as a pretty, but meaningless, ceremony.

Posted by: cubed at May 6, 2005 4:44 PM

Lying in the way of Allah is forgivable. Allah is all merciful & compassionate, have you forgotten that already?

Every Mohammedan immigrant who swears an oath of allegiance -be it in the US, GB or Australia is committing perjury.

Hugh Fitzgerald already insisted that this would be a possiblity to take them on, since they obviously pursue seditious activities and anything other than upholding the constitution once they do become citizens.

Posted by: Terminator at May 6, 2005 6:33 PM

This guy must be one of ia "American" Muslims who are as he says "high up" in the military!

Posted by: 3rdtimelucky at May 7, 2005 9:51 AM

Lying in the way of Allah is forgivable. Allah is all merciful & compassionate, have you forgotten that already?

Every Mohammedan immigrant who swears an oath of allegiance -be it in the US, GB or Australia is committing perjury.

Hugh Fitzgerald already insisted that this would be a possiblity to take them on, since they obviously pursue seditious activities and anything other than upholding the constitution once they do become citizens.

Posted by: Terminator at May 6, 2005 06:33 PM

Ah, Terminator! Precisely my point! That's exactly why no Muslim should ever be permitted to be in any position requiring the oath.

No Muslim should be permitted to become a naturalized citizen; no Muslim should be allowed to enter any position whatsoever requiring such an oath. Frankly, I think that any Muslim who attained citizenship via naturalization should be stripped of citizenship and deported. Any "revert" should be subject to the same restrictions as those born to Islam.

Posted by: cubed at May 7, 2005 11:52 AM