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Uzbek Unrest Update. From AP, with thanks to the Constantinopolitan Irredentist:
KORASUV, Uzbekistan - Breaking through a wooden gate and firing only a single warning shot, Uzbek forces on Thursday captured a rebel leader who had proclaimed plans for an Islamic state in this border town.The arrest and takeover of the town of 20,000 quelled the last open bastion of resistance to the U.S.-allied government in the volatile Fergana Valley....
The crackdown in Korasuv came as the Uzbek Foreign Ministry condemned Kyrgyzstan for letting more than 500 Uzbeks fleeing the violence cross the border, and said weak border controls had led to "serious riots" and actions staged by religious groups....
Rakhimov had told The Associated Press on Wednesday that he would be "building an Islamic state here in accordance with the Quran."
He didn't mention Hizb ut-Tahrir, the banned extremist group that aims to create a worldwide Islamic state and claims to eschew violence. President Islam Karimov, who has outlawed all public Islamic practices outside station-controlled Islamic institutions, has claimed the group was connected to the Andijan uprising.
On the Kyrgyz side of the border across from Korasuv, a man who said he was a Hizb ut-Tahrir adherent disavowed Rakhimov's uprising as going against the group's philosophy.
"Of course it's every Muslim's dream and aim to create an Islamic state," said Abdullo, who gave only his first name out of fear for his safety. "However, you can't build a caliphate this way, through an uprising."
Rashad Kamolov, 27, wearing the white skull cap characteristic of observant Muslims here, said the Korasuv uprising would play into Karimov's hands.
"This revolt will do no good to the Muslims. It will only bring harm," he said. "Now Karimov will be able to shout to the world, 'Look! It's Muslims."
The government has denied its troops opened fire on unarmed civilians during anti-government protests in Andijan last week. It says 169 people were killed in clashes between authorities and militants. Opposition leaders say more than 700 people died.
POSTSCRIPT: After a previous post about Uzbekistan, a blogger named Serdar Kaya published an attack on me and my work. I never would have seen it had he not sent it to me, but we had a courteous and fruitful email exchange after that. It led not to full agreement, but to some understanding, and I appreciate his not stooping to the hit-and-run method of attack favored by most of the anonymous cowards who email me. We may not agree on everything, but we can disagree with mutual respect.
I'd also like to thank Confederate Yankee for defending me from Serdar Kaya's characterizations of my work, with which I still disagree despite my appreciation for his willingness to discuss things civilly.
Posted by Robert at May 19, 2005 4:55 PM
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May 18, 2005
Gas explosion in a house inNY?? What was that about Pedia?? And apartments?? All though it was 60degrees in NY??
Black Islamic Terrorist get away from a bank robbery?? Get away with 200,000$ in NY think we may have to do what they do in Europe you get buzzed in and have to go through a metal detecter before you even get in the door???
Neswweek lied and people died???BUT you have to ask why newsweek would even print a story that might hurt America??? Why would newsweek want the USA to look Bad what is their Adgena??
Does the MSM who hate Christains what to hurt the USA so bad they help our enemies?? Will the MSM like living in Saudia a. or Roma???
I pick Roma not perfect but there you can Dance, Eat, and Drink wine, and let’s not forget Short Skirts!!!
May 19, 2005
House colapase in NY?? Was being remodled?? Now who would move walls with out an Arc...
Democrats change the rules of the Senate they will allow no bussines while they show Americans what sore losers they are they have stopped all meetings that means Intel Energy Bill [BIO Deissel] the Senate Democrats are like newsweek who lied and people died!!!! Will hurt America and her People just for their Adgena and this is why the American People will not vote for thm they care nothing about America??
Mean while the bad hair guy for North Korea is still out their and the Democrats in the Senate stop a meeting about Iran because they want to show off on the senate floor?? What was that about not going to shut the senate down????
Sad Sad NEWSWEEK LIED GOOD PEOPLE DIED!!
WHO SAYS THE PEOPLE ARE NOT DANGOURS??
Call your congressmen tell tham to vote yes on the Norwood amendment [to allow cops to stop and detane illegals]!!!! Good bill!! Every Democrat I saw stand up complained that the cops were not smart enough they had no training but yess something should be done???? They admitted that we didn’t have enough people because the problem is to big but they all said that cops could not be trained they were to stupid ????
The marborge virus in Angola has killed over 300 people and many more people infected??
BREAKING NEWS N Korea is showing off his tanks but the Democrats are not letting any meetings take place????
W.H.O. says that it is possible for the brid flue to pas between human to human??
And the Democrats stall in the Senate??
Star wars fans camp out at the wrong theater but not to worry the strom troopers come and get them and guide they to the true theater??? WOW wonder if the campers were Democrats???
Last night I saw a protest in L.A. about a monument that said frist the Indians owned this land then the Mexicans and soon we will have it back????On one side of the Street the Illegals [Mexicans] where they had blow horns masked faces and a large mexican flag??? On the other side of the street there were well dressed Americans with an American Flag shouting police in the middle?? Well Allen Clomes said that the trouble makers were the ones who were holding the American Flags why couldn’t they just forget about the moument it wasn’t hurting anybody and the Illegals just need to be left alone??
NOW THEY WONDER WHY THEY ARE NOT WINNING ELECTIONS???
http://www.mayorno.com/WhoIsMecha.html
The official national symbol of MEChA is an eagle holding a machete-like weapon and a stick of dynamite.
The acronym MEChA stands for "Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan." or "Chicano Student Movement of Aztlan."
MEChA is an Hispanic separatist organization that encourages anti-American activities and civil disobedience. The radical members of MEChA who refer to themselves as "Mechistas," romanticize Mexican claims to the "lost Territories" of the Southwestern United States -- a Chicano country called Aztlan. In its national constitution, MEChA calls for self-determination by its members to liberate Aztlan. MEChA's national constitution starts out: "Chicano and Chicana students of Aztlán must take upon themselves the responsibilities to promote Chicanismo within the community, politicizing our Raza with an emphasis on indigenous consciousness to continue the struggle for the self-determination of the Chicano people for the purpose of liberating Aztlán."
These anti-American "Mechistas" live with the false illusion that they are being racially discriminated against because they are Latinos while totally dismissing the idea that maybe it is their ideology that is being discriminated against.
At the MEChA National Conference on March 15 - 18, 2001, the official "MEChA Philosophy" was ratified. An excerpt from the document states: "as Mechistas, we vow to work for the liberation of Aztlan."
The MEChA Clubs on each of the Santa Barbara high school campuses are not the only ones. MEChA groups exist on 90 percent of the public high school, college and university campuses in the Southwestern United States.
The myth of Aztlan can best be explained by California's Santa Barbara School District's Chicano Studies textbook, "The Mexican American Heritage" by East Los Angeles high school teacher Carlos Jimenez. On page 84 there is a redrawn map of Mexico and the United States, showing Mexico with a full one-third more territory, all of it taken back from the United States.
http://www.mayorno.com/aztlan.html
El Plan de Aztlan (El Plan Espiritual de Aztlan)
http://www.mayorno.com/WhoIsMecha.html
WHAT IS RAZA
"La Raza" (The Race) is a broad term which refers to those whose ancestry is indigenous to the area of Mexico (or "Aztlan"). MEChA members refer to themselves as "La Raza" or "Raza," but the term itself is used to indicate camaraderie among those in different organizations with the same objectives. There are a number of organizations who consider themselves to be La Raza.
The most visible of these groups are MEChA, The Brown Berets de Aztlan, OLA (Organization for the Liberation of Aztlan), La Raza Unida Party, and the "Nation of Aztlan"
sympathy?
We need to learn and keep in mind that word sympathy is in the dictionary between the words SH_T and SYPHILIS!!!
http://www.aztlan.net/nofa.htm
NATION OF AZTLAN
Ministry of Information
Los Angeles, Alta California
Estimada Raza de Aztlan and Beyond:
Ministry of Foreign Affairs
October 18, 2000
On the Palestinian-Jewish Issue
La Raza's struggle for the land and for political and economic self-determination is not different from the struggle of the Palestinian people in Zionist Israel. We live in Aztlan under Anglo domination as the Palestinians live under Jewish domination. La Raza as well as the Palestinians lost the land through military aggression and both people now live in segregated regions within the larger nation. The Palestinian people as well as La Raza provide the hard labor necessary to prop up the national economies. Both Raza children and Palestinian children are victims of educational discrimination. The Palestinians as well as La Raza are considered people of color. So who should we side with in the present struggle in the Middle East?
WAKE UP ALLENCLOMES YOU ARE JEWISH PUTTING YOUR HEAD IN THE SAND WILL ONLY GET YOUR BUTT SHOT OFF!!!!
http://www.palestinefacts.org/pf_mandate_grand_mufti.php
How did the Arab territory of Transjordan come into being?
The 1922 White Paper (also called the Churchill White Paper) was the first official manifesto interpreting the Balfour Declaration.
http://muslimsandme.blogspot.com/
Wednesday, May 04, 2005
Is Swedish Democracy Collapsing? 5-4-05
From Fjordman Wednesday, May 04, 2005
This is a very long post, but if you don't read this your making a suicidal mistake!
http://www.newsmax.com/articles/?a=1999/8/18/135030
Albanians Destroy 40 Churches and Monastaries in Kosovo
ZENIT
August 16, 1999
According to Serbian Orthodox Church sources, more than 40 Orthodox Churches and monasteries in Kosovo were destroyed by Albanians since the NATO peace forces took over control of the province.
Orthodox Bishop Atanasije Rakita, director of the Serbian Orthodox Church's information service, said that, in addition, 200 Serbian villages were systematically destroyed in this southern province.
http://www.latinodawah.org/
Latino American Dawah Organization
Latino American Dawah Organization(LADO) is a nonprofit organization that was founded in 1997 by a handful of converts to Islam. Our mission is to promote Islam among the Latino community within the United States. We also educate Latinos and others about the legacy of Islam in Spain and Latin America and provide free information about Islam to all interested parties. Alhamdulillah (All praise is due to God), many Latinos are embracing Islam. Some feel that they are reclaiming their Islamic heritage.
What is Islam? Who is a Muslim?
Members don't create opportunities for LADO. Members create opportunities for Allah. Miembros no crean las oportunidades para LADO. Miembros crean las oportunidades para Allah.
"¡Puro Latino! ¡Puro Islam! ¡A su LADO!"
For all your burning questions...
Call 1-877-WhyIslam
Sí, hablan español
AND DEMOCRATS WONDER WHY THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WILL NOT VOTE FOR THEM
Pakistan lets 2 Islamic Terrorist go after 8 mo. In Jail who were Americans???
Democrat offeres plan to save S.S. his plan is to raise Taxes????
Islamic Terrorist in Iraq are chaining the car bomers to the car and setting to cars off by remote?? NOW how can this be that would these people are not willing to die for the YELLOW FAT MAN THESE Islamic Terrorist are real monsters who are killing the Iraqi people!!!!
Saw sader in frount of a crowd after their preacher had been killed[I think sadded did it] not many wanting to be near sader[yellow coward who killes men in mosques] sader is a Islamic terrorist!!!
Caylon2 you have to ask why she bought a used quran when CAIR is giving free ones away??? This is a stagged Feel sorry for me story???
sympathy?
We need to learn and keep in mind that word sympathy is in the dictionary between the words SH_T and SYPHILIS!!!
Queens anti Semitic grefitie all over the place something about July 14?? Many of the Black Americans are really pissed of this, they know it was the mulsums!!!
Part of the American Tribe
Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
God Bless the USA and her Fighting Forces and ALL who Fight with her give them Strength, Wisdom, Sight, and Courage to stay the course to Destroy ALL Islamic Terrorisst and ALL who Support them Amen
PS
REMEMBER
A gun in Hand is better than 2 cops on the phone!!!
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at May 19, 2005 5:28 PM
Well the guy on the horse i saw yesterday was screaming at a bunch of women with scarfs on their heads looking al little worried ???
yea it was women and children and we know that mulsums will kill the women and children to get their way??
look at what they have done in the Balkins??
Glad this guy stood up to these Bullys when you stand up with supier fire power or just the masses they back down and run like the yellow bellies that they are they all say they will die for their cause but like the Yellow coward z monster he is not in Iraq but in Syira!!YES HE RAN AWAY
Like saddam[FOUND IN A HOLE DON'T SHOOT I'M A YELLOW COWARD]
like ubl[YELLOW COWARD WHO RUNS AWAY]
sympathy?
We need to learn and keep in mind that word sympathy is in the dictionary between the words SH_T and SYPHILIS!!!
Part of the American Tribe
Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
GOD BLESS TH USA AND HER FIGHTING FORCES AND ALL WHO FIGHT WITH HER GIVE THEM STRENGTH, WISDOM, SIGHT, AND COURAGE TO STAY THE COURSE TO DESTROY ALL ISLAMIC TERRORIST AND ALL WHO SUPPORT THEM OPEN THE WORLDS EYES TO THEIR THRAET GIVE THE WORLD COURAGE TO STAND UP AND FIGHT THIS EVIL LET NOT THE WORLD BE DECEIVED BY THEM AMEN
at May 19, 2005 5:42 PM
Interesting that you don't highlight the part where 179 are reported killed according to the State though over 800 civilians, many of them women and children, were reported killed by human rights organizations. But obviously, according to the peculiar mentality of this site, they were all terrorists, so who cares...
Posted by: Shukri at May 19, 2005 5:50 PM
Shukri:
Your tendency to misrepresent and smear my positions has been abundantly established, but just in case there are any people of good will out there who may be confused, I wrote this on May 18:
"The abuse rained down heavier than usual after I posted this last Monday. How dare I support the brutal Karimov regime? (I don't.) How dare I say that the people who are revolting in Uzbekistan are jihadists? They're just reacting to years of oppression. All right....It is hard to get reliable information, but I suspect that jihadists are trying to co-opt the legitimate opposition to Karimov. That sort of thing has happened before."
That's here:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/006223.php
Then there's this:
"The presence of jihadists in Uzbekistan, which is still disputed by some, does not justify the brutal and bloody response of the Karimov regime. Uzbeks are between a rock and a hard place. My condolences to the victims."
That's here:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/006185.php
But as for you, Shukri, it is clear to me that your acquaintance with the truth is slight at best.
Cordially
Robert Spencer
at May 19, 2005 5:57 PM
ABOUT THE POSTSCRIPT:
Fair enough, Mr. Spencer.
Regards,
Serdar Kaya
Posted by: serdarkaya at May 19, 2005 6:12 PM
"Caylon2 you have to ask why she bought a used quran when CAIR is giving free ones away??? This is a stagged Feel sorry for me story???"
Posted by: Catherine
Probably a lawsuit in the works.
Posted by: Carolyn2 at May 19, 2005 7:45 PM
Steven Schwartz says that the Uzbek situation is misrepresented. The bad guys are the Communist rulers who are oppressing the middle class and calling the rebels "jihadists". He may have a point!
Posted by: Jakester at May 19, 2005 10:40 PM
easily captured rebel "leader" ...
hm ... Uzbeks just had to go looking behind women, children, elderly, or in the Mosque
jihadists? fighting like men?
at May 20, 2005 8:24 AM
Well, the Karimov regime was and remains generally dreadful. Hence if the choice for the people of Uzbekistan lies between lingering Soviet-style oppression and Wahabbite wannabes, I weep for that country.
Posted by: Kepha at May 20, 2005 9:31 AM
Jakester, where does Mr. Schwartz say that? Because his remarks regarding the Uzbek government seem pretty fawning: here [http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=14360] for instance. Of course, if a leftist had suggested such support for such an appalling regime, it would be dutifully called appeasement by the fine folks here at Jihadwatch. Reminds me of Daniel Pipes's support for Islamic Terrorist Groups: http://www.danielpipes.org/article/1100.
Ohhh boy! Imagine Howard Dean getting away with that one! (For the real deal on the MEK, check this out: http://cfrterrorism.org/groups/mujahedeen.html).
Posted by: LaoK at May 21, 2005 12:38 AM
Oh, sorry! And this: http://www.hrw.org/english/docs/2005/05/18/iran10967.htm
Posted by: LaoK at May 21, 2005 12:39 AM
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