There is no doubt now that the jihad in Thailand is joined. Malaysia and Indonesia will probably soon ignite into a simian frenzy. What a spectre of dread do these millions of primative fools conjur. They will in due course find that they have summoned upon themselves a glimpse of the Face of Shiva in their final fleeting moments of consciousness. Woe to all humankind that it has allowed the jinn of jihad to once more escape from the bottle to which it had been mostly confined for more than a century. We will all be personally affected. We will all curse the day that the present generation permitted the scourge of jihad to again inflict its wounds upon millions of innocents. We will also bless the day when its fanatical adherents are again brutally defeated and the names and deeds of the heroes who have risen to this noble task will echo for a millenium.

Posted by: Hulegu Khan at May 21, 2005 7:18 PM

Well said. Like a cancer on the body of humanity. Spreading.

Our governments. And the media. Are on the frontline. They need to be enlightened to the nature of this murderous religion.

Posted by: skidd at May 21, 2005 8:03 PM

First Pol Pot now the jihadist.Poor Cambodia.Where ever there is a muslim population there is jihadi activity.Add another country to the map showing jihadi activity in the world.

Posted by: RED at May 21, 2005 8:19 PM

Some good news for a change:

On a Christian Mission to the Top
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/22/national/class/EVANGELICALS-FINAL.html

Posted by: a10billr at May 21, 2005 8:34 PM

Those kind of tourist are no good, they leave crummy tips!

Posted by: Dumbo at May 21, 2005 8:53 PM

It is astonishing that the Western elite and media have grown so effete and sedated by years of civilised political discourse, that they longer appear to recognise pure barbarism when they see it.

It's as if it doesn't compute.

Our leaders need to awaken from their slumber, take Islam at its word, and acknowledge that it is fully committed to conquering and subjugating the West. Only then will all appropriate defensive action be taken on our behalf.

Posted by: Charles Martel at May 21, 2005 9:54 PM

I would like to see Thaksim make the same crack down on the Muslims,like he did with his war on drugs.
I do not mind chipping in for the diesel

Posted by: shiva at May 21, 2005 10:35 PM

Contacts between Thai and Cambodian Muslims took off when many of the latter were DP's in Thai territory during Cambodia's long civil wars. In the same period, a Muslim named Abdul Jaffar was the foreign affairs guy for the Son Sann faction of the resistence (the anti-Communist faction which, like the POl Pot and Sihanouk ones, however, was overwhelmingly Buddhist. Nonetheless, Son Sann's group tended to be a little more hospitable to the Christian and Muslim religious minorities).

Also, there are distant ties of ethnic kinship between Cambodian and Thai Muslims. In eastern and central Thailand, many of the Muslim minority, like those in Cambodia, descend from Cham who took refuge in those countries as Viet Nam started eating the Hindu-Muslim kingdom of Champa piecemeal between the 15th and 18th centuries (Viet Nam began up in the Red River Delta, in the north, and spread southwards). Some Cham also found refuge in the Malay states of the peninsula.

Shiva: For Thaksin to crack down on Islam per se would be very difficult and politically inexpedient. To succeed against the separatists, any Thai government will need Malaysian cooperation and good will--and, ever since anti-Communist cooperation between Bangkok and Kuala Lumpur issued forth in the 1970's, Malaysia has been decidedly cool or even hostile to Pattani separatism in Southern Thailand (a long-simmering issue). Thailand has long seen its Muslim minorities as "part of the family", even though the official religion of the kingdom is Theravada Buddhism; and has even had a Muslim foreign minister. In the central portion of Thailand, where Muslims are active in the transport industry, and in the far north, where they are engaged in agriculture and petty trade, and are often ethnically Chinese, there has been no conflict. Muslim business people of ex-South Asian or Middle Eastern extraction in Bangkok and Chieng Mai have also been good citizens, by and large. Even in the south there is a portion of the Muslim population that is loyal, and is often employed in local government functions like teaching, police, and administrative work.

The Royal Thai Government is also likely to be unwilling to introduce a note of communal conflict into its official policies. It is sensitive to the inroads the Communists made into its ethnic minorities (especially Hmong and Chinese) back in the 1950's-'70's, and feels strongly that it needs to integrate them. In short, Thaksin's government is in somewhat the same bind that Bush's is in. It wants to fight terrorists, not Muslims per se.

Posted by: Kepha at May 22, 2005 1:28 AM

Thailand will loose its country or part there of (like Serbia) unless it fights ISLAM not TERRORISM (liek Serbia tried to do, but we in teh West bombed the crap out of them after swallowing the Muslim properganda) - just like the West will lose.

One ray of hope however is that the Thai's didn't muck around a few months back when a bunch of "peace lovers" took shelter in a Mosque. Remeber that?

Kepha - regardless of how many 'peaceful' Muslims there are, the threat of terrorism will always remain, unless Islam is anhilated. There were also many 'peaceful' Nazi's, who did not take up arms against the East or West, who went about their daily lives in 'peace'. But they did help to keep the terror of Nazism alive by way of tacit support.

The term 'moderate' is nothing more than a Muslim's tacit approval for a Nazi like system - that is - Islam. They still support the same system as the terrorists, they still worship from the same "holy" book, they still follow the same pedophile prophet. To be a Muslim is to support Islam.

To support Islam is to support the Koran. The Koran is nothing more than a book on terror.

Where there are Muslims, there is terror. Not every Muslim is a terrorist, but chances are, every terrorist is a Muslim.

Posted by: 3rdtimelucky at May 22, 2005 4:45 AM

I have really at the moment nothing to confirm on this until I can check with my contacts in Kota Bahru and Narathiwat.

What I can say is that they won't be coming over the border into Malaysia as far as I know.

Kepha: Im not sure where you get your information from, but Thaksin will not hesitate for a moment to send in the military with orders to shoot to kill if it's required. One thing about Thailand is that they don't play this ridiculous "catch and release" game that the United States seems to enjoy playing in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Thailand knows very well how to deal with Islamic fascists and terrorists.

LHM
An American Expat in Southeast Asia

Posted by: LHM at May 22, 2005 5:04 AM

It is astonishing that the Western elite and media have grown so effete and sedated by years of civilised political discourse, that they longer appear to recognise pure barbarism when they see it.
It's as if it doesn't compute.
Posted by: Charles Martel at May 21, 2005 09:54 PM

I can't believe they are that stupid anymore.
I think the lunatic liberal elite control the media, and many of them are Mooslims or well connected with the Mullah Mafia.

Posted by: Mullahmasher at May 22, 2005 5:45 AM

It is astonishing that the Western elite and media have grown so effete and sedated by years of civilised political discourse, that they longer appear to recognise pure barbarism when they see it.
It's as if it doesn't compute.
Posted by: Charles Martel at May 21, 2005 09:54 PM

I can't believe they are that stupid anymore.
I think the lunatic liberal elite control the media, and many of them are Mooslims or well connected with the Mullah Mafia.

Posted by: Mullahmasher at May 22, 2005 5:45 AM

It is astonishing that the Western elite and media have grown so effete and sedated by years of civilised political discourse, that they longer appear to recognise pure barbarism when they see it.
It's as if it doesn't compute.
Posted by: Charles Martel at May 21, 2005 09:54 PM

I can't believe they are that stupid anymore.
I think the lunatic liberal elite control the media, and many of them are Mooslims or well connected with the Mullah Mafia.

Posted by: Mullahmasher at May 22, 2005 5:45 AM

It is astonishing that the Western elite and media have grown so effete and sedated by years of civilised political discourse, that they longer appear to recognise pure barbarism when they see it.
It's as if it doesn't compute.
Posted by: Charles Martel at May 21, 2005 09:54 PM

I can't believe they are that stupid anymore.
I think the lunatic liberal elite control the media, and many of them are Mooslims or well connected with the Mullah Mafia.

Posted by: Mullahmasher at May 22, 2005 5:45 AM

It is astonishing that the Western elite and media have grown so effete and sedated by years of civilised political discourse, that they longer appear to recognise pure barbarism when they see it. It's as if it doesn't compute.
Posted by: Charles Martel at May 21, 2005 09:54 PM

I can't believe that Media is that Stupid.
I'm more inclinded to believe that the lunatic liberal elite which owns MSM are Muslims themselves, or well connected with the Mullah Mafia, a unholy alliance with them in order to bring down the Republicans, in order to re-establish their political preferences.

Posted by: Mullahmasher at May 22, 2005 5:50 AM

The May 13 riots in M`sia did have a semblance of religion. Ostensibly to `guard` malay rights based on the bumiputra who is superior to the non-muslim dhimmi.

As recently as Dec. 2004 the Deputy Prime Minister of Malaysia had this:
`Dato' Seri Najib kicked the ball first to insist to insist none should openly debate if Muslims could slander the followers of other religions`

in response to

`Non-Malays living in the vicinity of mosques in Kuala Lumpur hear this call to arms against the non-Muslims through high-pitches megaphones`
http://mggpillai.com/article.php3?sid=2049...

Kuala Lumpur is the capital and very much more cosmopolitan. It takes little imagination to get the view of the Northern states neighbouring Southern Thailand and which are intertwined through religion and culture and kinship. And the popn. is predominantly malay (at least on the malaysian side).

Posted by: hutchrun at May 22, 2005 6:04 AM

The May 13 Incident is a term for the Chinese-Malay race riots in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia on May 13, 1969

In 2004, during the UMNO general assembly Badruddin Amiruldin (new deputy permanent chairman) waved a book on May 13 during his speech and stated "No other race has the right to question our privileges, our religion and our leader". He also stated that doing so would be similiar to "stirring up a hornet's nest". 2004 is a leap year starting on Thursday of the Gregorian calendar. ...

The next day, Dr Pirdaus Ismail (Umno Youth EXCO) was quoted as saying "Badruddin did not pose the question to all Chinese in the country," "Those who are with us, who hold the same understanding as we do, were not our target. In defending Malay rights, we direct our voice at those who question them."

http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/May-13-Incident

Posted by: hutchrun at May 22, 2005 6:24 AM

It is not just the jihadists who are violent. What about the US soldiers in Afghanistan who have behaved like barbarians? Violence is not the answer, but US attempts to grasp the world's oil and its use of violence in that attempt is bound to reap what it sows. Bush is one of the most corrupt US presidents to date. US news is censored - no such thing as 'freedom of speech'. This is why Americans have a skewed view of the world and think that people's anger against them is mindless. They can't see the other side of Bush's face. Wake up Americans!

ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS PRESIDENT:
I invaded and occupied two countries at a continuing cost of over one billion dollars per week.
I spent the U.S. surplus and effectively bankrupted the U.S. Treasury.
I shattered the record for the largest annual deficit in U.S. history.
I set an economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in any 12-month period. I set the all-time record for the biggest drop in the history of the U.S. stock market.
I am the first president in U.S. history to enter office with a criminal record.
I set the the all-time record for most days on vacation in any one year period. After taking-off the entire month of August, I presided over the worst security failure in U.S. history.
I am supporting development of a nuclear "Tactical Bunker Buster," a WMD.
In my State Of The Union Address, I lied about our reasons for attacking Iraq, then blamed the lies on our British friends.
I set the record for most campaign fund-raising trips by a U.S. president.
In my first year in office over 2-million Americans lost their jobs and that trend continues every month. I set the all-time record for most foreclosures in a 12-month period.
I appointed more convicted criminals to administration than any president in U.S. history.
I set the record for least amount of press conferences than any president since the advent of television I presided over the biggest energy crisis in U.S. history and refused to intervene when corruption involving the oil industry was revealed.
I presided over the highest gasoline prices in U.S. history..
I have cut health care benefits for war veterans and support a cut in duty benefits for active duty troops and their families-in war time.
I have set the all-time record for most people worldwide to simultaneously protest me in public venues (15 million people) shattering the record for protest against any person in the history of mankind.
I've broken more international treaties than any president in U.S. History. I'm proud that the members of my cabinet are the richest of any administration in U.S. History.
My "poorest millionaire," Condoleeza Rice, has a Chevron oil tanker named after her.

Posted by: texanbabe at May 22, 2005 7:11 AM

`What about the US soldiers in Afghanistan who have behaved like barbarians?`

I`ll just take that one for starters since the rest of your spiel is an obvious approval of saddam hussein`s magnanimity. (oil blah blah).

In any war there`ll be the odd instances. And do you know the details of the `barbarism`.
What about the hundreds who died so the Afghans do not have to live under the Taliban `love` of torture and rape.
You ever lived under muslim rule? You think it`s fun?

Mind you i`m a sub-continent person so I know the situation here better than you (if you are in the States). So a well informed reply would be appreciated.
Otherwise you are trolling. In which case you`d better put your talents to work elsewhere-possibly as a scrptwriter for that tiresome Michael Moore.

Posted by: hutchrun at May 22, 2005 7:35 AM

texanbabe
One small question
Did you or your sheik write the above comment

Posted by: shiva at May 22, 2005 7:39 AM

It's not the mobs, so much as the determination of the elites to keep their peoples in a state of ignorance. The most educationally repressive form of Islam, for example, is funded and promoted by Saudi princes who, though not as handsome as Imran, also spend a lot of time in the West -- gambling, drinking, womanizing and indulging other tastes that even the wildest night on the tiles in Riyadh just can't sate. Whereas most advanced societies believe that an educated population is vital to the national interest, many Muslim elites seem to have concluded than an uneducated population is actually far more useful. And, when you look at Saudi funding of radical madrassahs in hitherto moderate Muslim regions from the Balkans to Indonesia, it's hard to avoid the conclusion that they're having great success de-educating hitherto relatively savvy parts of the world.

This disaster took a combination of factors. We can't do much about Muslim fanatics; we probably can't do much about our self-worshipping vanity media whose reflexive counter-tribalism has robbed it of all sense of perspective or proportion. But we ought to apply pressure on the link between the two worlds: the self-serving elites who enjoy the privileges of the West even as they exploit their co-religionists' ignorance of it. That's just not cricket, is it?

http://www.suntimes.com/output/steyn/cst-edt-steyn22.html

Posted by: hutchrun at May 22, 2005 7:46 AM

3dtime: I'm a Christian and no Muslim. I believe that Jesus Christ is God's final word to us; that further inspired Scripture is impossible after the last words in the book of Revelation were penned; and hence cannot believe Muhammad was a prophet (at least until Tameem/Timothy sends me the stuff he promised which will show me how bloody St. Paul was).

But how do you propose to eradicate Islam? Send the troops everywhere from Morocco to Mindanao and pile up skulls where cities were? Is that what you'd bring up your son to do?

I pray for the conversion of Muslims to Jesus Christ (and for the conversions of positivists, Marxists, and others as well), for it is a very frightful thing when God enters into judgment with us. In the meantime, I can live with the ones who live peaceably alongside me. I mean, I've also lived in a college town full of people who quoted Frantz Fanon to speak of "revolutionary catharsis", made an idol of Che Guevara, who was Fidel Castro's executioner, and still think Mao Zedong was a hero instead of a superstitious and utterly destructive horror. I by no means approve the actions of men like Paul Hill (who got what he asked for), yet I have been physically threatened for holding an anti-abortion sign in a licensed, peaceful protest. Given that the 20th century massacred more in the names of historical inevitability, liberation, nation, class and other secular idols than died for the wrong kind of Christianity or none at all since the conversion of Constantine, I daresay there's a lot of violence in systems of belief that many reasonable people once considered "progressive".

But, are we to look at everyone whose canon somewhere exorts people to violence (I've discussed in these pages the bans on the Canaanites and their place in the unfolding of divine revelation, too), and say "eradicate"? I'm afraid we'd be in for a very long and destructive slog, since we are not a pacific species, and our varied canons (including the "scientific" one) reflect our porpensity for violence--and some such canons are a lot more self-righteous about killing off the "enemies of the people" and "reactionaries" than mine is.

Posted by: Kepha at May 22, 2005 8:36 AM

Kepha - I agree with you - but I also believe that we need to physically fight Islam.

BUT it should also be accompanyied by EDUCATION. That cannot happen until our pollies admit the truth about this evil that is Islam.

I do not advocate killing all Muslims. I to hope that they convert to some truthful belief system (hopefully Christianity).

That said - I do not believe that Islam should be tolerated in the West, say no more than communism was. We need both education AND bullets to defend ourselves.

Posted by: 3rdtimelucky at May 23, 2005 7:22 PM