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In this story I say what I always say. I expect I'll say it again, too. From WND, with thanks to all who sent this in:
In an attempt to quell the rancor resulting from Newsweek's retracted Quran-desecration story, a controversial U.S. Muslim lobby group is giving away free copies of Islam's revered book.The particular edition, however, "The Meaning of the Holy Quran," previously was banned by the Los Angeles school district because commentary notes accompanying the text were regarded as anti-Semitic.
The Council on American-Islamic Relations has included the edition in the Islamic book-package it offers libraries nationwide and now is giving it away to help "improve America's image" through a program called "Explore the Quran."...
Under the heading "Jews" in the book's index, is a reference to Surah 5:60, which says: " ... Those who incurred the curse of Allah and His wrath, those of whom some he transformed into apes and swine ... ."
In the index under "Jews" also are these phrases: "cursed," "enmity of," "greedy of life," "slew prophets," "took usury," "unbelief and blasphemy of" and "work iniquity."
Extreme or mainstream?
Scholars point out that Muslims believe the Quran was dictated word-for-word by Allah in the Arabic language, so any rendering in other languages is imperfect and can be seen only as an interpretation.
But author and researcher Robert Spencer, director of Jihad Watch, says that while Ali's notes are particularly anti-Semitic, his rendering of the Quranic text largely is no different than any other version.
"It's an indication that what we think of as extreme in Islam is not really extreme but mainstream," he told WND. "You won't find a translation that doesn't have Jews being turned into apes and pigs."
Some scholars say the text refers only to particular groups of Jews, such as those breaking the Sabbath, and is not meant to apply to Jews today.
But Spencer says the global, mainstream understanding regards this as a current, universal reference to Jews.
The Washington-based Middle East Media Research Institute, or MEMRI, includes in its archives many translated writings and texts of sermons by prominent Muslims leaders who make such references.
For example, the highest-ranking cleric in the Sunni Muslim world, Al-Azhar Sheikh Muhammad Sayyid Tantawi, called the Jews "the enemies of Allah, descendants of apes and pigs" in a weekly sermon in April 2002.
In a TV program broadcast on Iqraa, the Saudi-Egyptian satellite channel, a 3-year-old "real Muslim girl" was interviewed about Jews. Asked whether she liked Jews, she answered, "no." Asked why, she replied Jews were "apes and pigs."
"Who said this?" the moderator asked. The girl answered, "Our God." "Where did He say this?" "In the Quran."
At the end of the interview, the obviously pleased moderator said: "No [parents] could wish for Allah to give them a more believing girl than she. ... May Allah bless her, her father and mother. The next generation of children must be true Muslims. We must educate them now while they are children, so that they will be true Muslims."
Spencer said many in the United States are unaware that this kind of rhetoric is common in the Muslim world.
"I think that maybe this is a chance for Americans to become aware of just how the text of the Quran itself plays a role in the creation of jihad terror," he said.
It's also a chance, he continued, "for Muslims who claim to be moderate to face that honestly and develop a genuine, non-literal understanding of the text that is convincing to their fellow Muslims and propagate it aggressively."
Posted by Robert at June 2, 2005 8:26 AM
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I thought about signing up to get one of these free Qur'ans, but decided against it when the order form requested name, address, phone number and email address.
An organization which supports Hamas and the overthrow of the USA government in favor of a caliphate will NOT have me in their data base.
Posted by: Skeet Street
at June 2, 2005 9:36 AM
Ah the religion of peace. So I'm a pig or is it an ape? This sick screed should be front page news and prime time reported but its not because its politically incorrect to tell the truth about islam.
Posted by: 5th Column Hunter
at June 2, 2005 9:54 AM
"Explore the Quran". A better name for their program would be..."shoot yourself in the foot for Allah"...If more Americans "explored" the Quran, more Americans would know of it's violent and oppressive leanings...these people are dense...
at June 2, 2005 10:01 AM
The death threats of lunatics are like medals. Wear them proudly.
As far as the true meaning of the Koranic quote about "pigs and apes", it isn't that hard to explicate.
A more sophisticated Muslim teacher could explain it all as prescient proto-Darwinism on the part of Mohammad.
Are we NOT primates, ourselves, genetically almost identical to these hairier cousins of the forest called "apes"? Mohammad was thus NOT insulting the Jews, but simply giving the world a revelation which it would take Western biologists another 1000 years to grasp.
And, as the early scientist Roger Bacon probably noted, mankind has selected not to eat its relatives, considering cannibalism ahhorrent and unclean. Which would explain the widespread revulsion for, and prohibition on, consuming swine that is evident in many creeds, Islam included. It is likely an unconscious recognition of their close DNA kinship with the "pig" (didn't true-blue All-American cowboy star John Wayne have pig valves inserted in his heart to help him survive?).
So, this is yet another Muslim misunderstanding. In this instance, by Islam's more literalistic clerics and naive followers. When they think that they are "insulting" the Jews, they are actually paying them a profound compliment. And are distorting one of Mohammad's most foreward-thinking remarks.
They should be ashamed of themselves for distorting the prophet's 7th century genome project truth, and making his words a tool of hate and not the nectar of enlightenment that they were meant to be.
(Many suras have been similarly twisted from their original benign intent.)
Posted by: BigSleep
at June 2, 2005 10:44 AM
Qur’an 3:54 “‘Lord, we believe in Your revelations [the Torah and Gospels] and follow this Apostle [Jesus]. Enroll us among the witnesses.’ But the Christians contrived a plot and Allah did the same; but Allah’s plot was the best.” [A third translation says that “they” refers to “disbelievers,” not the disciples and they plotted to kill Jesus.] “And they (disbelievers) plotted (to kill Isa [Jesus]) and Allah plotted too.”
Why would God have to Plot?
Qur’an 3:50 “(I [Isa/Jesus] have come) to attest the Torah which was before me. And to make lawful to you part of what was forbidden; I have come to you with a Sign from your Lord. So fear Allah, and obey me. Lo! Allah is my Lord and your Lord, so worship Him. That is a straight path.”
The Torah and the quran are not the same thing! So mulsums are cursed??
Bukhari:V4B55N658 “Allah’s Apostle said ‘How will you be when the son of Mary (i.e. Jesus) descends amongst you and he will judge people by the Law of the Qur’an and not by the law of Gospel.’”
NOT TALKING ABOUT JEWS HERE AND WE KNOW WHAT THE QURAN SAYS PROTECT YOUR CHILDREN!!!
Bukhari:V4B55N657 “Allah’s Messenger said, ‘Isa (Jesus), the son of Mariam, will shortly descend amongst you Muslims and will judge mankind by the law of the Qur’an. He will break the cross and kill the swine [Jews] and there will be no Jizyah tax taken from non-Muslims. Money will be so abundant no one will accept it. So you may recite this Holy Verse: “Isa (Jesus) was just a human being before his death. On the Day of Resurrection he (Jesus) will be a witness against the Christians.”’”
NOTICE ONCE AGAIN THIS IS AGAINST CHRISTIANS!!
Qur’an 4.171 “O people of the Book (Christians), do not be fanatical in your faith, and say nothing but the truth about Allah. The Messiah who is Isa (Jesus), son of Mariam, was only a messenger of Allah, nothing more. He bestowed His Word on Mariam and His Spirit. So believe in Allah and say not Trinity for Allah is one Ilah (God)…far be it from His Glory to beget a son.”
SO THE QURAN CALLS THE BIBLE A LIE!!
Qur’an 61:14 “O Muslims! Be helpers of Allah: As Jesus the son of Mary said to the Disciples, ‘Who will be my helpers (in the Cause) of Allah?’ Said the disciples, ‘We are Allah’s helpers!’ Then a portion of the Children of Israel believed, and a portion disbelieved: But We gave power to those who believed against their enemies, and they became the victorious.”
IN GODS CAUSE TO SAVE HIS PEOPLE OF ISRAEL WHO HE SAVED FROM EGYPT?? REMEMBER JESUS WAS A JEW!!
” Qur’an 4:89 “They wish that you would reject Faith, as they have, and thus be on the same footing: Do not be friends with them until they leave their homes in Allah’s Cause. But [and this is a hell of a but...] if they turn back from Islam, becoming renegades, seize them and kill them wherever you find them.”
THIS IS THE MULSUM WAY PROTECT YOUR CHILDREN!!
Qur’an 9:38 “Believers, what is the matter with you, that when you are asked to march forth in the Cause of Allah (i.e., Jihad) you cling to the earth? Do you prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? Unless you march, He will afflict and punish you with a painful torture, and put others in your place. But you cannot harm Him in the least.”
YEA more Islamic terrorist dead TODAY BY THE USA & NEW IRAQI ARMY NOW WHO IS ON GODS SIDE?
Qur’an 9:45 “Only those ask for exemption (from Jihad) who believe not in Allah and whose hearts are in doubt, so that they are tossed to and fro. If they had intended to march out to fight, they would certainly have made some preparation and readied their equipment; but Allah was averse to their being sent forth; so He made them lag behind. ‘Sit you among those who sit.’ If they had marched with you, they would not have added to your (strength) but only (made for) discord, spying and sowing sedition. There would have been some in your midst who would have listened to them. But Allah knows well those [peace-loving Muslims] who do wrong and are wicked.”
THIS IS WHY THEY CAN'T BE TRUSTED!!!
Qur’an 9:77 “He punished them by putting hypocrisy in their hearts until the Day whereon they shall meet Him, because they lied to Allah and failed to perform as promised. Allah knows their secrets. Those who slander and taunt the believers who pay the zakat (for Allah’s Cause) voluntarily and throw ridicule on them, scoffing, Allah will throw back their taunts, and they shall have a painful doom. Whether you ask for their forgiveness or not, (their sin is unforgivable). If you ask seventy times for their forgiveness Allah will not forgive them.”
AMERICA IS DONE PAYING BUSH SAID THE OTHER DAY IT IS NOW THE ARABS WHO ARE TO SUPPORT THEIR MONSTERS THE PALIS!!!
Qur’an 9:81 “Those who stayed behind rejoiced in their inaction behind the back of the Messenger. They hated to strive and fight with their goods and lives in the Cause of Allah. They said, ‘Go not forth in the heat.’ Say, ‘The fire of Hell is fiercer in heat.’ If only they could understand! So let them laugh a little, for they will weep much as a reward for what they did. If Allah brings you back (from the campaign) to a party of the hypocrites and they ask to go out to fight, say: ‘You shall never go out to fight with me against a foe. You were content sitting inactive on the first occasion. So sit with the useless men who lag behind.’ Do not pray for any of them (Muhammad) that die, nor stand at his grave. They rejected Allah and disbelieved His Messenger. They died in a state of perverse rebellion.”
ANOTHER REASON NOT TO TRUST PROTECT YOUR CHILDREN!!
Qur’an 9:85 “And let not their wealth or (following in) sons dazzle you or excite your admiration. Allah’s plan is to punish them with these things in this world, and to make sure their souls perish while they are unbelievers. When a surah comes down enjoining them to believe in Allah and to strive hard and fight along with His Messenger, those with wealth and influence among them ask you for exemption from Jihad. They prefer to be with (their women), who remain behind (at home). Their hearts are sealed and so they understand not.”
ANOTHER REASON NOT TO TRUST PROTECT YOUR CHILDREN!!
Qur’an 9:90 “And there were among the wandering desert Arabs men who made excuses and came to claim exemption (from the battle). Those who lied to Allah and His Messenger sat at home. Soon will a grievous torment seize them.”
NOW THEY FIGHT IN THE COURTS WHEN WILL THEY TURN TO OUR STREETS AS IN EVERY COUNTRY PROTECT YOUR CHILDREN JUDGES DO MATTER!!
Qur’an 9:93 “The (complaint) is against those who claim exemption [from fighting] while they are rich. They prefer to stay with the (women) who remain behind (at home). Allah has sealed their hearts. They are content to be useless. Say: ‘Present no excuses: we shall not believe you.’ It is your actions that Allah and His Messenger will observe. They will swear to you by Allah, when you return hoping that you might leave them alone. So turn away from them, for they are unclean, an abomination, and Hell is their dwelling-place, a fitting recompense for them.”
WHO IS UNCLEAN PEOPLE WITH RUNNING WATER IN THEIR HOMES OR PEOPLE LIVING IN MUD HUTS OR CAVES WITH NO RUNNING WATER??
WHAT IS IT SAID CLEANLYNESS IS NEXT TO GOD-LYNESS A JEWISH AND CHRISTIAN SAYING
EVER BEEN TO A MULSUM COUNTRY AND LOOK WHO IS CLEAN!!
Qur’an 9:97 “The Arabs of the desert are the worst in unbelief and hypocrisy, and most fitted to be in ignorance of the command which Allah hath sent down to His Messenger. Some of the Bedouins look upon their payments (for Allah’s Cause) as a fine and wish disasters to fall on you (so that they might not have to pay). Yet on them be the disaster of evil.”
SO IT IS ABOUT POWER AND MONEY?? WOULD YOU ACCEPT THE WRITTINGS OF CHARLES MANSON AND HIS MONSTER FOLLOWERS AS god HE THOUGHT HIMSELF AS A PROPHET??
Malaysia Arrests Key Figure in Nuclear Trafficking
NewsMax.com Wires
Friday, May 28, 2004
KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia – A Sri Lankan businessman accused of brokering black market deals for nuclear technology was arrested Friday in Malaysia, government officials said.
Buhary Syed Abu Tahir, who allegedly worked with disgraced Pakistani scientist Abdul Qadeer Khan to sell nuclear secrets to rogue states, was detained for threatening Malaysia's national security, officials told The Associated Press on condition of anonymity.
Tahir is the most senior known member of Khan's network to have been arrested since details about its operations to sell nuclear know-how and equipment to Libya, Iran and North Korea came to light earlier this year.
PROTECT YOUR CHILDREN!!
WHAT ABOUT THE PEOPLE THESE MONSTERS KILL???
SHAME ON THE HUMAN RIGHTS LIKE WHERE WERE THEy ON THE 300,000 GRAVES OF saddam[yellow coward found in a hole don't shoot i'm a coward]THESE PEOPLE MAKE ME SICK BUNCH OF LIB'S!!!
WAKE UP PEOPLE THIS IS WHAT THEY TEACH THEIR CHILDREN!!!
Tabari VII:148 “Amr said, ‘Let’s wait here until the cry has died down. They are sure to hunt for us tonight and tomorrow. I was still in the cave when Uthman bin Malik came riding proudly on his horse. He reached the entrance to our cave and I said to my Ansar companion, ‘If he sees us, he will tell everyone in Mecca.’ So I went out and stabbed him with my dagger. He gave a shout and the Meccans came to him while I went back to my hiding place. Finding him at the point of death, they said, ‘By Allah we knew that Amr came for no good purpose.’ The death of their companion impeded their search for us, for they carried him away.”
STILL DOING THIS TODAY HIDING LAYING IN WAIT??
Tabari VII:149 “I went into a cave with my bow and arrows. While I was in it, a one-eyed man from the Banu Bakr came in driving some sheep. He said, ‘Who’s there?’ I said [lied], ‘I’m a Banu Bakr.’ ‘So am I.’ Then he laid down next to me, and raised his voice in song: ‘I will not believe in the faith of the Muslims.’ I said, ‘You will soon see!’ Before long the Bedouin went to sleep and started snoring. So I killed him in the most dreadful way that anybody has ever killed. I leant over him, struck the end of my bow into his good eye, and thrust it down until it came out the back of his neck. After that I rushed out like a wild beast and took flight. I came to the village of Naqi and recognized two Meccan spies. I called for them to surrender. They said no so I shot and arrow and killed one, and then I tied the other up and took him to Muhammad
WHAT THEY TEACH SO WHY BE SUPRIZED AT THE MONSTER WHO SAYS I CAN SMILE IN THEIR FACES THEN TURN AND CUT THEIR THROUTS??
Ishaq:434 “Amr and an Ansari waited until they were asleep. Then Amr killed them, thinking that he had taken vengeance for the Muslims who had been slain. When he came to the Messenger, he told him what had happened. The Prophet said, ‘You have killed men for whom I shall have to pay blood-money.’”
THE BLOOD MONEY IS TO CRY NOW ABOUT THE SUICIDE BOMOBERS WELL THEY ARE THE MONSTERS DO NOT CRY FOR THE KILLER CRY FOR THE VICTIM DID WE CRY FOR HITLER??
Qur’an 5:33 “The punishment for those who wage war against Allah and His Prophet and make mischief in the land, is to murder them, crucify them, or cut off a hand and foot on opposite sides...their doom is dreadful. They will not escape the fire, suffering constantly.”
READ IT AND WEEP FOR THOSE WHO THESE MONSTERS HAVE KILLED BY THEIR BOOK PEAR,BERG,JOHNSTON,HENSLEY,BISLEY,HEAGAN,AND THE LIST GOES ON MANY IRAQIS MEN FROM NEPAL FROM THE PHILLIPENS AND JAPAN AND HOW MANY IN OUR LANDS??
Qur’an 9:5 “When the sacred forbidden months for fighting are past, fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, torture them, and lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.”
THIS MEANS WE CAN GIVE NO QUATER??
Qur’an 5:37 “The [Christian] disbelievers will long to get out of the Fire, but never will they get out there from; and theirs will be an enduring torture.”
EXPLAINS ITS SELF SO NOW YOU KNOW THIS DOES MEAN ACTION LOOK AROUND THE WORLD AND SEE THE TRUTH!!
PROTECT YOUR CHILDREN NOW THEY TRY TO CHANGE OUR LAWS NEXT IT WILL BE BLOOD IN THE STREETS HAVING YOUR HEAD IN THE SAND WILL ONLY GET YOUR BUTTS SHOT OFF!!!
Qur’an 8:12 “Your Lord inspired the angels with the message: ‘I will terrorize the unbelievers. Therefore smite them on their necks and every joint and incapacitate them. Strike off their heads and cut off each of their fingers and toes.”
SO TO THEM THE BOMBERS ARE DOING THIS
HAVE WE LET THEIR SPIES AND THE ENEMY IN OUR GATES??
Qur’an 8:58 “If you apprehend treachery from any group on the part of a people (with whom you have a treaty), retaliate by breaking off (relations) with them. The infidels should not think they can bypass (Islamic law or the punishment of Allah). Surely they cannot escape.”
WHO DO YOU TRUST??
Qur’an 47:33 “Believers, obey Allah, and obey the Messenger. Do not falter; become faint-hearted, or weak-kneed, crying for peace.”
Qur’an 9:3 “Allah is not bound by any contract or treaty with non-Muslims, nor is His Apostle.”
THIS IS WHAT THE MONSTERS ARE TEACHING THEIR CHILDREN
Qur’an 9:3 “And an announcement from Allah and His Messenger to the people on the day of the Pilgrimage is that Allah and His Messenger dissolve treaty obligations with the Pagans.”
WHO ARE THE PAGANS??
Qur’an 49:9 “If two parties among the Believers fall into fighting, make peace: but if one becomes aggressive, then fight against the one that transgresses until it complies.”
SO THE BULSH-T ABOUT MULSUMS NOT FIGHTINF EACH OTHER IS JUST THAT BULSH-T!!!
Qur’an 9:7 “How can there be a covenant between Allah and His Messenger and the disbelievers with whom you made a treaty near the sacred Mosque?”
NO WE CAN NOT TRUST!!
Qur’an 9:12 “If they violate their oaths and break treaties, taunting you for your Religion, then fight these specimens of faithlessness.”
AGAIN WHO ARE THE DISBELIEVERS??
Ishaq:454 “Now that Allah has conferred Islam on us, and made us famous, shall we give them our property? By Allah, we will offer them only the sword until Allah judges between us.’ ‘As you wish,’ said Allah’s Messenger.”
WE WILL ONLY OFFER THEM THE SWORD!
Tabari VII:7 “The Prophet married Aisha in Mecca three years before the Hijrah, after the death of Khadija.
At the time she was six.”
Mahammad forced himself on her. This is how it happened:
Tabari IX:131 “My mother came to me while I was being swung on a swing between two branches and got me down. My nurse took over and wiped my face with some water and started leading me. When I was at the door she stopped so I could catch my breath. I was brought in while Muhammad was sitting on a bed in our house. My mother made me sit on his lap. The other men and women got up and left. The Prophet consummated his marriage with me in my house when I was nine years old.”
Muhammad raped a baby.
NOW IN AMERICA AMERICANS HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS!!!
NO CAIR PETEL YOUR MONSTER BOOK SOMEWHERE ELES!!!!
Ishaq:464 “The Jews were made to come down, and Allah’s Messenger imprisoned them. Then the Prophet went out into the marketplace of Medina (it is still its marketplace today), and he had trenches dug in it. He sent for the Jewish men and had them beheaded in those trenches. They were brought out to him in batches. They numbered 800 to 900 boys and men. As they were being taken in small groups to the Prophet, they said to one another, ‘What do you think will be done to us?’ Someone said, ‘Do you not understand. On each occasion do you not see that the summoner never stops? He does not discharge anyone. And that those who are taken away do not come back. By God, it is death!’ The affair continued until the Messenger of Allah had finished with them all.”
YES THEY WANT TO MORE THEN JUST CALL NAMES??
Qur’an 59:14 “The Jews will not unite and fight against you except from behind walls. They hate themselves. You would think they were united, but their hearts are divided. That is because these [Jews] are a people devoid of sense. Like those who recently preceded them [the Meccans at Badr], they [the Jews who were just sent into the desert to die] have tasted the evil result of their conduct. And for them a grievous punishment.”
WHAT THEY DO NOW IN TRYING TO DIVIDE THE COUNTRY AND THE DEMOCRATS ARE FALLING INTO OUR ENEMIES HANDS!!
RACISM:
Ishaq:243 “I heard the Apostle say: ‘Whoever wants to see Satan should look at Nabtal!’ He was a black man with long flowing hair, inflamed eyes, and dark ruddy cheeks…. Allah sent down concerning him: ‘To those who annoy the Prophet there is a painful doom.” [9:61] “Gabriel came to Muhammad and said, ‘If a black man comes to you his heart is more gross than a donkey’s.’”
So all the killing of black mulsums by arabs is normal? So why have Black American joined mulsums? They want to be killed by arabs?
Qur’an 5:17 “Verily they are disbelievers and infidels who say, ‘The Messiah, son of Mary, is God.’”
Qur’an 5:51 “Believers, take not Jews and Christians for your friends. They are but friends and protectors to each other.”
Qur’an 5:72 “They are surely infidels who blaspheme and say: ‘God is Christ, the Messiah, the son of Mary.’ But the Messiah only said: ‘O Children of Israel! Worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord.’
SO ALL THIS CRAP CAIR SAYS ABOUT WE LOVE CHRISTIANS IS JUST THAT SH-T THE STINKY KIND!!
Part of the American Tribe
Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
GOD BLESS THE USA AND HER FIGHTING FORCES AND ALL WHO FIGHT WITH HER GIVE THEM SIGHT,WISDOM,STRENGTH, AND COURAGE TO STAY THE COURSE TO VICTORY TO DESTROY ALL ISLAMIC TERRORIST AND ALL WHO SUPPORT THEM LET NOT THE WORLD BE DECEIVED BY THEM AMEN
PS
Never thought that calf had the guts??
at June 2, 2005 11:11 AM
This is a very productive, exposing piece.
Posted by: DCWatson
at June 2, 2005 12:28 PM
Waiting for Moslems to reinterpret their book is a waste of time. First, they won't do it; second, even if some did, the vile text still remains. The reality is, as long as there are Moslems, the civilized world will be at risk.
Posted by: Seymour Paine
at June 2, 2005 1:06 PM
Some scholars say the text refers only to particular groups of Jews, such as those breaking the Sabbath, and is not meant to apply to Jews today.
If that's the case, then who's to say whether anything in the Quran applies today?
Posted by: yadayada
at June 2, 2005 1:32 PM
Interesting site:
Apostates of Islam
"Who we are:
We are ex-Muslims. Some of us were born and raised in Islam and some of us had converted to Islam at some moment in our lives. We were taught never to question the truth of Islam and to believe in Allah and his messenger with blind faith. We were told that Allah would forgive all sins but the sin of disbelief (Quran 4:48 and 4:116). But we committed the ultimate sin of thinking and questioned the belief that was imposed on us and we came to realize that far from being a religion of truth, Islam is a hoax, it is hallucination of a sick mind and nothing but lies and deceits.
What we believe:
Some of us have embraced other religions but most of us have simply left Islam without believing in any other religion. We believe in humanity. We believe that humans do not need to follow a religion to be good. All we need to follow is the Golden Rule. All we have to do is to treat others they way we expect to be treated. This is the essence of all the goodness. All good religious teachings stem from this eternal principle. This is the ultimate guidance humanity need. This is the Golden Rule. "
Posted by: skidd
at June 2, 2005 1:56 PM
I ORDERED ONE AND NOW FEAR THEY WONT MAIL IT BUT WILL SHOW UP AT THE HOUSE LIKE A COUPLE OF JEHOVAS WITNESS
Posted by: KAOSKTRL
at June 2, 2005 2:03 PM
This edition of the Koran comes with a program of indoctrination (and perhaps surveillance) via CAIR. No thanks, I prefer to find my own copy.
Posted by: epg
at June 2, 2005 2:42 PM
Always use your koran to whipe, before you flush it. We could write to CAIR and ask for a large supply... This would result in savings on the price of TP.
Posted by: SexyKafira1
at June 2, 2005 3:07 PM
Posted by: skidd at June 2, 2005 01:56 PM
I THINK THIS WAS A BETTER PART OF THAT??
Why Mohammed was not a prophet:
One who claims to be a messenger of God is expected to live a saintly life. He must not be given to lust, he must not be a sexual pervert, and he must not be a rapist, a highway robber, a war criminal, a mass murderer or an assassin. One who claims to be a messenger of God must have a superior character. He must stand above the vices of the people of his time. Yet Muhammad’s life is that of a gangster godfather. He raided merchant caravans, looted innocent people, massacred entire male populations and enslaved the women and children. He raped the women captured in war after killing their husbands and told his followers that it is okay to have sex with their captives and their “right hand possessions” (Quran 33:50) He assassinated those who criticized him and executed them when he came to power and became de facto despot of Arabia. Muhammad was bereft of human compassion. He was an obsessed man with his dreams of grandiosity and could not forgive those who stood in his way. Muhammad was a narcissist like Hitler, Saddam or Stalin. He was astute and knew how to manipulate people, but his emotional intelligence was less evolved than that of a 6-year-old child. He simply could not feel the pain of others. He brutally massacred thousands of innocent people and pillaged their wealth. His ambitions were big and as a narcissist he honestly believed he is entitled to do as he pleased and commit all sorts of crimes and his evil deeds are justified.
Mankind’s biggest challenge:
Today the humanity is facing a great danger. Islamic fundamentalism is on the rise and the hatred is brewing in the minds of millions of Muslims. This hatred must be contained or there would be disastrous consequences. We believe that the education is the only answer. Muslim intellectuals must realize that Islam is a false doctrine and they must let the rest of Islamic world know the truth. Islam is a religion that thrives on the arrogant assumption that it is the most logical, the most scientific and the most perfect religion. While the fact is that it is the stupidest doctrine — the most backward and absurd belief. Once the truth about Islam becomes common knowledge, it will be weakened and the Islamic fanaticism will lose its fangs. Hundreds of billions of dollars are being expended to combat Islamic terrorism, yet no effort is made to contain the ideology behind this terrorism. It is our belief that Islamic terrorism will not be eliminated unless and until the ideology behind it is exposed and eradicated. This is what we intend to do
NO WONDER THEY DON'T WANT THE TRUTH TO COME OUT??
Part of the American Tribe
Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
GOD BLESS THE USA AND HER FIGHTING FORCES AND ALL WHO FIGHT WITH HER GIVE THEM STRENGTH, WISDOM, SIGHT, AND COURAGE TO STAY THE COURSE TO DESTROY ALL ISLAMIC TERRORIST AND ALL WHO SUPPORT THEM LET NOT THE WORLD BE DECEIVED BY THEM AMEN
PS
NOTICED THEY HAVE NEW VIDEO OF MULSUMS AT WORK OR AT SOME WOULD SAY THEIR BEST LIGHT??
at June 2, 2005 3:32 PM
Posted by: KAOSKTRL at June 2, 2005 03:19 PM
Gold Star for you today!!
LOVE THIS PART!!
HIS EYE IS ON THE MONEY!!!
http://www.sperryfiles.com/media.shtml
IN THE MEDIA
Know thine enemy
Frank Gaffney Jr., Washington Times, May 17, 2005,
Flash: Newsweek has apologized. The magazine’s editor says he is sorry for printing a possibly mistaken article that accused US interrogators at Guantanamo of throwing copies of the Koran into prisoners' toilets. Evidently, Newsweek particularly regrets the murderous anti-American rioting the erroneous report set off in various parts of the Muslim world.
Ironic though it may seem, we might just owe Newsweek a debt of gratitude for its shoddy reporting. After all, it provided a wake-up call to see how quickly and how skillfully our enemies seized upon evidence of America's purported hostility to Islam to advance their own agenda.
But who exactly is the enemy and what is their agenda? The instigators of the riots in Afghanistan and Pakistan and their counterparts elsewhere are adherents more to a political ideology — some call it Islamism, others Islamofascism — than to a faith. Using organizational and coercive tactics taken right out of the Bolsheviks' play-book, this Islamist minority seeks first to dominate the Muslim faith's non-Islamist majority, then the rest of us.
For the Islamofascists, material like the fallacious Newsweek report is a godsend. They portray it as proof positive of undifferentiated western hostility towards all Muslims. Armed with such evidence, the Islamists then strive to persuade their heretofore peaceable and tolerant co-religionists that there is no choice but to subscribe to the most virulently intolerant interpretations of the Koran and to join in a divinely-ordered violent struggle (jihad) intended to subjugate infidel nations and populations.
The implications of the Islamofascists' concerted, highly-disciplined and organized and well-financed efforts are ominous. Unfortunately, this is true not only for places like Afghanistan and Pakistan, where the Islamists have held sway for some time, or in Saudi Arabia, the financial and ideological well-spring of modern Islamofascism. Islamism is on the march in such disparate places as Western Europe, Bosnia, Indonesia, Latin America and Africa.
Worse yet, Islamofascists are also increasingly a force to be reckoned with in America, as well. A chilling new book by noted author and investigative reporter Paul Sperry makes clear that the Islamists are well advanced in their efforts to bring jihad to a country near you.
In Infiltration: How Muslim Spies and Subversives have Penetrated Washington, Sperry describes in well-documented detail the inroads being made by mostly Saudi-funded Islamist operations in the United States. Many of these operations are headquartered in what he calls the Wahhabi corridor communities in northern Virginia within a few miles of the nation's seat of government. Evidence of their progress to date includes:
• The take-over of non-Islamist mosques throughout America. Typically, this is accomplished by way of mortgages provided on favorable terms by Saudi financial institutions. Along with the financing come Wahhabi clerics, textbooks and other materials and the transformation of religious schools into Saudi-style madrassas.
• Islamist recruitment in US prisons. Sperry describes how Sister Susan VanBaalen, who administers the federal prison ministries, has naively allowed problematic organizations tied to Saudi Arabia to proselytize in unsupervised meetings with inmates.
• Muslim chaplains in the American military have been selected, trained and certified by Saudi-funded organizations founded by one of this country’s most prominent and best-connected Islamists, Abdurahman Alamoudi. Alamoudi is himself now in federal prison, having pled guilty to plotting to engage in terrorist acts
• Islamist inroads are also being made into the student populations of hundreds of colleges and universities across America by chapters of the Saudis-bankrolled Muslim Student Association.
Sperry's most alarming insights, however, concern the success Islamist organizations have had in penetrating and influencing key government agencies. He documents how the FBI has employed translators of suspect loyalties without adequate background checks. He details how political correctness has replaced common sense as federal agencies like the Pentagon, State Department, law enforcement, the intelligence services and even the White House have reached out to groups known to be sympathetic — if not actually tied to — Islamist terrorism.
In some cases, such outreach has served to legitimate the Islamists in question. For example, Sami al-Arian, an erstwhile professor at South Florida University, is defending himself against some 40 federal charges of involvement in terrorist financing and activities on the grounds that he was included in numerous meetings with senior government officials, including George W. Bush.
At the very least, these meetings have facilitated political influence operations aimed at obscuring the distinctions between non-Islamist Muslims and the Islamofascists. Sperry suggests that they have also made possible the placement of individuals who may be affiliated with the latter in key posts inside the US government.
Paul Sperry’s Infiltration comes at a time when more and more Americans are recognizing the danger to our security, society and way of life posed by Islamofascists. They see TV dramas like Fox’s 24 in which the enemy lives and works among us, even as they plot our destruction. They hear that, by some estimates, as many as 70,000 people described as “other than Mexicans,” — many of whom are believed to be from Middle Eastern nations — slipped illegally last year across our inadequately secured borders.
Thanks to Newsweek’s explosive gaffe, we now have further reason to recognize the need to isolate and destroy our Islamofascist foes, even as we seek to reach out to and empower truly non-Islamist Muslims. The latter hold the key to defeating our mutual enemy and, thereby, to avoiding the potentially apocalyptic clash of civilizations sought by that enemy.
Frank J. Gaffney, Jr. is the President of the Center for Security Policy and a columnist for the Washington Times.
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GOD BLESS THE COUNTRIES WHO HAVE HEROS AMEN
pity the countries who need them NOT!! Amen
at June 2, 2005 3:55 PM
Islam is not a faith which is compatible with any other. The fundamental purpose of Islam is to attain complete world domination. No other belief system or religion is permissable unless those who follow it are willing to live as "protected" slaves to Islam.
Christianity is also a faith which believes in world conversion, however it is not a religion of conquest. There have been many times in history when corrupt Popes and movement leaders have declaired conquests, persecutions and brutal pogroms and Bulls, yet the text of the faith itself is not incompatible to peaceful co-existance with other religions.
Therefore, modern Popes and protestant leaders have been able to successfully interperet Christianity to be tolerant, peaceful and free from bigotry. The last time Christianity had a terrorist or conquest mentality Shakespeare was writing prose. Yes, there have been Christian atrocities commited upon Jews since the 16th century, but most were launched by secular leaders.
Only Islam has remained unflinchingly violent, murderous and barbaric in the quest of world domination without cessation since its creation in the 7th century. Well, almost only Islam.
Radical secularism and atheism has also been brutal, violent, corrupt and barbaric without exception since its inception following the French revolution in the late 18th century. Without fail or exception, secular leftist governments persecute nonbelievers in totalitarian fashion under the false pretense of being an ideology of peace and love. Sound familiar?
So, it is no wonder that Islam and Marxism are today the united enemies against Jews, America, and the Christians who support them. We are natural enemies.
You're either with us or against us in the war for civilization.
Posted by: Madzionist
at June 2, 2005 5:42 PM
Madzionist - on the whole, I agree with you. Of course I would like to see every person in the world a member of the Catholic Church, since I believe that its teaching is true; but there is not and there has never been any point in demanding belief at the point of a sword. (Even at the worst of intra-Christian conflict, in the sixteenth century, the laws never demanded conversion from heretics; in theory, and to a large extent in practice, those who just stayed at home and practiced their religion in private could be left alone. It was people who preached, tried to spread their views, organized churches and set up their own political groups, who were persecuted and burned at the stake; and that was because they were held to be a danger to the public order and the sovereignty of local rulers. Of course, in practice matters often went far beyond that, and even where they didn't, even peaceful dissenters found it best to move away to a country of their own faith; but the notion that faith is to be spread by victory in war and political compulsion is one that was never, historically, accepted even by the most corrupt Christian bodies.
Posted by: Paolo
at June 2, 2005 6:04 PM
I called CAIR's 1-800 number and asked for a free Quran.
I gave the fellow my mailing address (a P.O. Box) and told him that I preferred not to share either my telephone number or email address.
When asked if I had read of the offer in USA Today, I told him no, that a friend had told me of it.
He was polite and told me the book should arrive in a few weeks.
I hope it's a copy of the version in question.
I'll let you know when it arrives. If it's delivered via a black helicopter, well, that'll be exciting.
Posted by: PRCS
at June 2, 2005 6:08 PM
I ORDERED ONE AND NOW FEAR THEY WONT MAIL IT BUT WILL SHOW UP AT THE HOUSE LIKE A COUPLE OF JEHOVAS WITNESS
Posted by: KAOSKTRL
LOLS!!!
There is NO need to buy or personal give info for receiving CAIR's Koran.
Here is a search engine for a Koran that includes 3 different translations [older translations] all approved by Islamic 'scholars'
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/reference/searchquran.html
Here is an interesting search:
Type in 'smite'
Posted by: Beth
at June 2, 2005 7:38 PM
Funny how those apes and pigs have 100 companies on the nasdaq compared with 0 from the muslim world, 5 of the worlds top universities compared with 0 in the muslim world. The most 25th highest living standard in the world compared with pretty much near the worst for the muslim world.
at June 2, 2005 8:31 PM
Wheres shukri to explain us the finer nuances of Jew hating?
at June 2, 2005 8:34 PM
Hating Jews is the desperate act of a loser. Name me one historical example of anti-Semites winning in the long run.
You can't.
The Christians of today who are friends of Israel, the conservative Christians, are more powerful and successful today than ever before in American history. The liberal denominations which have resorted to hating and boycotting Israel, like the Presbyterians, have never been weaker or less relavent nationally.
The Nazis: Gone
The Soviets: Gone
The Moslems: eating sand and living in their own dung.
Case closed. Don't mess with us monkeys and pigs.
at June 2, 2005 10:04 PM
Madzionist-
Don't forget all of those world class Muslim violinists, geneticists, film-makers, writers, physicists, inventors, chemists, dramatists, comedians, artists, novelists, legal scholars, professors and musicians.
(Of course, most were killed by their fellow Muslims for daring to say anything but the Koranic party line, but they were sure something!)
Posted by: BigSleep
at June 3, 2005 12:29 AM
id like to think that the muslims dont stand a snowballs chance of taking over and replacing our constitution with sharia law but they can shure make a mess trying. what are the odds?
Posted by: dms
at June 3, 2005 12:51 AM
sorry for the type-o; i know better
Posted by: dms
at June 3, 2005 12:58 AM
oops,thats my blood type,i meant typo
Posted by: dms
at June 3, 2005 1:04 AM


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