Who are these 'islamic thinkers society'- an oxymoron if one existed. Freedom is not free and to see these @%#$%^& abuse it is pushing tolerance real hard.

Are these loons a legally registered organization or just another rabble group? Do they have a spine? Where do their funds come from? Do they have a Registered HQ? Where exactly in NYC are they located?

Maybe the FBI would like to pay them a 'friendly' visit / just for kicks(or arse-kicks). So far the law is on their side, flag desecration is protected by law. But death-threats? I'm not so sure of that.

Posted by: voletti at June 10, 2005 8:01 AM

If not citizens, they should be deported. If there are not adequate laws on the books to do this, pass those laws. Jefferson had the Alien and Sedition Laws. Lincoln did things in wartime that would not have earned the approval of The New Duranty Times. Too bad.

If they are citizens, how do they make their living? A great many people cut corners, here and there, in their wire-transfer businesses, in their "cash-only" businesses (where are the State Departments of Revenue, and where are those who can report on who does not ring up every sale -- it shouldn't be hard, one by one, to take care of some of these people in the same way that Al Capone was taken care of, with the same charges). Taxi drivers? Hack licenses need to be renewed. Charges from dissatisfied customers can be loooked into. One by one by one, these people who do not wish us well can be interrupted, disrupted, find that the country and people they hate will, amazingly, not take it quite as they think we should, and have ways to make their own lives distinctly unpleasant.

The government cannot engage in an economic boycott. But private citizens can. And local cities and towns can decide that they wish to hire only those who can take a loyalty oath -- an idea that offends some, but is an entirely reasonable and useful tool. In the very process of obtaining citizenship, after all, one swears loyalty to the ideals of the Constitution. If one has perjured oneself then, citizenship can be stripped. And should be. And since it is impossible for a full believer in Islam to owe his loyalty to anything other than Islam (it simply cannot be) quite a lot of such stripping can go on -- and will offer a salutary lesson, a chastening lesson, to those who suddenly become quiet as the prospect of returning to the hideous conditions of dar al-Islam looms larger, and closer.

We have no obligation to commit civilizaional, or national suicide. The tolerant and naive people in Holland, in France, in Denmark, in Sweden and in all other European countrie have discovered with horror and dismay and sometimes with a sense of "but what can we do know?" that they allowed into their countries people who adhere to a belief-system that flatly contradicts everything in which the indigenous Infidels believe, and which makes their own lives worth living. There is not a single person in Europe who could disagree with this sentence: "The existence of large numbers of Muslims in our country has made our own lives far more unpleasant, expensive, and dangerous than they would otherwise be." They differ in the degree of passivity or fury they exhibit, all the way from Oriana Fallaci to the appeasement of Chirac and Dominique de Villepin.

We are in a good position to0 learn from Europe's experience, and from our own. Look at the video of the Islamic Thinkers, ruminating deeply as they stomp on the flag, scream their hysterical hatred for America, and I have no doubt you too will want to burn the midnight oil figuring out how to remove people who, even if they managed to perjure themselves to obtain citizenship, cannot possibly be loyal to anything like the United States of America.

And what will those whose duty it is to protect us -- do?

Posted by: Hugh at June 10, 2005 8:07 AM

isnt "islamic thinkers" an oxymoron? the only islamic thinker i know of is mohammed. the rest are simply blind followers. i guess it is a lot easier to follow blindly than to use reason or logic. besides, everyone knows mohammed invented "allah" for his own purposes.

Posted by: dms at June 10, 2005 8:09 AM

So much for 'religion of peace'. What a great religion where you can just declare a 'jihad' on anyone that irritates you. Obviously these 'thinkers', use their 'thinking time' to do things other than...well...THINK.
I agree with the first comment, get these scumbags out of our country. If you aren't a citizen, you don't deserve to have the privilege to advocate violence against American citizens. Go home, and blow yourself up along with all your buddies.

Posted by: Webproze at June 10, 2005 8:14 AM

How worried should anyone be about these gutless wankers who need the police to protect them while they tear at a flag?

They are nothing to be worried about. Just the usual Muslims who really have no courage. I believe you mates call it (being a blow-hard).

Posted by: Unbridled at June 10, 2005 8:16 AM

Oh, and along the way, Allah torments all of us every waking moment of every day.

Posted by: Unbridled at June 10, 2005 8:35 AM

Without Islam, the people at those protests would be dust-bunnies under the carpet of life. This is a cause that gets them attention,makes them feel powerful and gives them false hope for a future that is brighter than the obvious future that awaits them.

It reminds of students, who once a year, feel really at home on the one day a year when they have "wear your pants backwards day".

Moose

Posted by: Moose at June 10, 2005 8:45 AM

We are under no obligation, within our borders, to maintain the culture of foreign nationals of any stripe. To do so is cultural suicide. Rather than protecting our cultural interests, the Federal Government is interested in prosecuting a war and promoting free interests. Special interest groups have a free hand to manipulate and have created a climate of self-loathing that has led to p.c. and multicultural thinking.

It is a shame that grassroots programs such as the Minuteman Project seem to be the only way that ordinary citizens can raise awareness as the government has be co-opted to promote the interests of special interest American and foreign groups to the detriment of our country.

Posted by: epg at June 10, 2005 9:05 AM

dust-bunnies under the carpet of life.

I like your style Mr Moose.

Posted by: Granny Weatherwax at June 10, 2005 9:30 AM

This is as baffling as a Three Stooges plot. It is difficult to ascertain just what the true nature of the Islamic Stinkers Society is. Are they so clever that they fain extreme stupidity in attempt to stir up trouble? Or are they really stupid enough to think I’m going to believe them when they piss on my leg and tell me it’s raining?

These people are nothing but trouble. They should be investigated for inciting violence against Americans.

Muslims, or those they continue to allow act in their name, will be the downfall of Islam when they finally wear their welcome out in their “host” nations.

f.g.

Posted by: f.g. at June 10, 2005 9:44 AM

That should have read:

WE THE MUSLIMS OF Islamic Thinkers Society ARE AN INTELLECTUAL & POLITICAL NON-VIOLENT ORGANIZATION . AND WE DO NOT HAVE ANY CONNECTIONS WITH INTELLECT WHATSOEVER.

Posted by: kj at June 10, 2005 9:46 AM

Threats from the darkside...
Peaceful, non violent thinkers, thinking not so peaceful thoughts. Threatening Mr Spenser with Allah is the greatest form of violence. "God's gunna get you", was one of my xxx mother in laws favorite threats.
Well the fact is, that Allah has tried to kill me many times and I'm still here. The main reason for my continued existance is because Allah is a lousy shot.
I hope the FBI et al, are thinking about what the Islamic thinkers are thinking about.
Their thinking needs monitoring before it becomes something other than Allahic thoughts...

Posted by: duh_swami at June 10, 2005 9:50 AM

I'm sure by now that this group is clearly in the sites of the local task force that oversees the Jackson Heights area of New York. As they say in the latest law enforcement vernacular " they are persons of interest". In the video that I can't seem to bring up anymore, Jackson Heights appears to have a large muslim concentration as you can see several people dressed in Arab or Islamic clothing walking on the sidwalks. Maybe the Islamic Thinkers are a little nervous because their video may be getting more exposure than they bargained for. Standing on a busy little street corner bellowing out your hatred of America does not normally get you alot of exposure. If they pick an area , say in front of a federal building , there is a good chance they will get a bit more exposure.

Posted by: Mackie at June 10, 2005 9:53 AM

For those of you who may have not read this allready, here are some expressed tangential points as to why Islam is not a religion of peace from THE AMERICAN THINKER.

http://americanthinker.com/articles.php?article_id=4315

Posted by: Mackie at June 10, 2005 10:01 AM

CONGRESS IS SITTING TO ARAB AMERICANS LIKE ZOGBY??

ABOUT THE RENEWAUL OF THE PAROIT ACT WELL ONE HELPFUL THING WOULD FOR A CONGRESS PERSON TO BRING IN THE TERRORIST HAD BOOK AND POINT OUT THE FINNER POINTS LIKE BLEND IN DON'T THINK ALL IN THE HAD BOOK IS YOUR EYES ONLY??

THE DEMOCRATS ARE WHINING ABOUT HOW WE LOOK TO THE WORLD WELL WE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DON'T CARE WHAT THE WORLD THINKS OF US!!!

LONDI CALF I AM REMIND OF THE NEIGBOR YEA THE GUY WAS REAL NICE WAVED AND MOED HIS YARD??

NO ZOGBY NEW POLL BUSH DOWN WELL WHO IS HE POLLING THE ISLAMIC TERRORIST???

PEOPLE IN THE STREET ARE NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT THE WEATHER ANYMORE????????????

Part of the American Tribe
Squirrel Hunter[SAW ANOTHER ONE LAST NIGHT]
Spider Killer
GOD BLESS THE USA AND HER FIGHTING FORCES AND ALL WHO FIGHT WITH HER GIVE THEM STRENGTH, WISDOM, SIGHT, AND COURAGE TO STAY THE COURSE TO DESTROY ALL ISLAMIC TERRORIST AND ALL WHO SUPPORT THEM AMEN

Posted by: Catherine at June 10, 2005 10:09 AM

Islamic thinkers? Who knew.

Posted by: johnb at June 10, 2005 10:28 AM

Let me get this straight...they are mad because RS told the world about their little flag stomping incident? I thought they wanted publicity. I think every American and member of the civilized world should see that video, and more importantly listen to what is said

Posted by: Carolyn2 at June 10, 2005 10:36 AM

May the fleas of one thousand camels infest the crotches of these Islamic "thinkers" and may their arms be too short to scratch!

Posted by: vashti at June 10, 2005 10:39 AM

By the way, my spine feels pretty good, how about yours RS? I haven't noticed my spine being removed from my body in the last few days.

Posted by: Carolyn2 at June 10, 2005 10:40 AM

Is it a requirement for Muslims to dress as if they are a part of a Brady Bunch episode?

Posted by: Unbridled at June 10, 2005 10:45 AM

More evidence Islam is the 'Religion of Pieces™.' Dang good thing these clowns are only the minority.

A little 'Rawhide' strategy is long overdue, 'Pack'em up and ship'em out.' Gawd all this pretense has gotten weary.

Posted by: Eg at June 10, 2005 10:58 AM

Islamic Thinker's Society? More likely Islamic Stinker's Society.

Posted by: 5th Column Hunter at June 10, 2005 11:04 AM

Despite the air of unreality surrounding these loons, they may well have serious intentions. I hope you are well-armed, both at home and while away. I assume that you live either in DC or New York, and thus your access to personal weapons is very limited.

Posted by: john.cunningham at June 10, 2005 11:11 AM

For those of you that can no longer find this video, I have taken it upon myself to make it available to the world from my own blog.

http://www.foehammer.net/2005/06/thoughts.html

Fear no enemy.

Posted by: Foehammer at June 10, 2005 11:31 AM

Good for you Foehammer! I was hoping someone had that saved.

Posted by: Carolyn2 at June 10, 2005 11:38 AM

by publishing false information about us.

?????????

I hope that law enforcement authorities are paying very, very close attention to this

WE THE MUSLIMS OF ''''Islamic Thinkers Society'''' ARE AN INTELLECTUAL & POLITICAL NON-VIOLENT ORGANIZATION .

Then let them 'think' upon this: Why did their allah forget to mention Palestine?

They have NO Spiritual Support for demanding that Palestine be established.

Especially since 'allah' DOES mention the name Israel.

Is it acceptable for Muslims to steal?

How can thieves enter the Kingdom of God?

less 'allah's paradise be made up of a bunch of theives

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure it out

GOOD FOR YOU ROBERT!!!!!!!!!!!

And I also hope that the authorities are paying VERY CLOSE ATTENTION

I e-mailed that little skit they proudly filmed - and it is traveling faster than any other e-mail I have ever sent.

And the recepients DON'T LIKE IT - ONE BIT!

Posted by: Beth at June 10, 2005 12:03 PM

Holland, in France, in Denmark, in Sweden and in all other European countrie have discovered with horror and dismay

Haven't you heard Hugh? Reports have been coming out how the ones 'who can afford to do so' are leaving. And isn't that nice? They're the ones who preached the songs of "Intolerance" and "Diversity" the loudest.

They helped to create a royal bloody mess - and then they quietly leave - to go hide somewhere.

If you want YELLOW BELLY COWARDS {{{ There ya go! the kings of them all

Posted by: Beth at June 10, 2005 12:13 PM

Hmmmm-
The video and website are not available today.
Maybe they are all on a pleasure trip to Gitmo!

Posted by: treehugger at June 10, 2005 12:24 PM

It reminds of students, who once a year, feel really at home on the one day a year when they have "wear your pants backwards day".

Moose - LOLS!

They should be investigated for inciting violence

f.g. - I believe they should be prosecuted for inciting violence.

The U.N. sentence 3 men to life in prison for using a radio to incite violence [I have that report - from the Washington Times on my site Men Armed Only With Words Can Commit Genocide ]

If the U.N. can prosecute others for the same - then why not the U.S. government?

Posted by: Beth at June 10, 2005 12:25 PM

What are members of the Islamic Thinkers Society upset about? They committed their act of desecration on a public street and now that act is getting the exposure they wanted. I'm sure the video of their "flag stomping" and expressing hatred of the US has been sent to the FBI.Now anyone who participated in this act is on the FBIs radar screen as a "person of interest". What's the problem? The Islamic Thinkers are going to get plenty of attention from now on.

Posted by: Roxane at June 10, 2005 12:27 PM

to all "GULLIBLEs"

stop thinking for yourselves and deny reality you see and hear!!!

become the good sheep - and go quietly to your slaughter

- may PC be upon you -

Posted by: PCKills! at June 10, 2005 12:32 PM

I appreciate all the support my fellow bloggers are showing for Robert. I hope the thinkers are reading these kind posts for him. He does more to get people to understand Islam that he ever did to try to bash it; he leaves that for the rest of us. If they ever read one of his books, they'd know he was teaching more than pointing fingers. There is a difference. Local law enforcement and the FBI are aware of these people, for quite some time. They also know about the threats to Robert's life, so innundating them with more emails and faxes and phone calls only takes their time away from the business at hand. "World Net Daily," an online new source is the first place I read about this situation. They are pretty up to the minute on their reporting. The group has obviously been trying to keep low key on the net and just protest in the streets. If they have permits to protest, they can use them. If they have permits to do one thing and do another, that is a different story. Leave policing to the police; leave justice to the judicial system. What we can do is always be up-to-date on these situations, be prepared to respond and take positive action within our own communities. Know what's going on around you. Deciphering a video is for law enforcement. Yes, the speaking was Arabic. That doesn't make a difference. We can't assume everyone who destroys a flag is unAmerican or of a particular religious group or ethnic background. We live in a country where the same liberties apply to all of us. Anyone desecrating the flag is not committing a crime; they have a right. They just go on a list of people with whom I have no respect. Just because a law is on the books, doesn't mean I have to stand for it. But, if we don't stand for something, we'll fall for anything. Prayers for Robert and Jihad Watch and for ourselves, and our troops as we go through this difficult ordeal.

Posted by: JW gal at June 10, 2005 12:52 PM

Perhaps these "Muslim thinkers" should give this a thought: Since Allah spends all his time in hell torturing people, who do you think he really is?
His "heaven" is a brothel, sluts, wine pearly boys for gay sex, gorging on endless food suppplies, who's "heaven" does that sound like?

Allah is Satan, Muhammad was nothing but a murdering pedophile, rapist and a thief. He was a crimminal of the worst kind.
Perhaps these "Muslim thinkers" should read the ONLY record of Muhammads (My he burn in hell forever) life, written by Ishaq,(latter edited and abridged by Ibn Hisham) called the "Sirat Rasul Allah" and discover who their false prophet really was, and just how rediculous and
stupid the blood cult of Islam really is. This is the only record of Muhammad's life, and cannot be refuted.

"Muslim Thinkers" indeed. Brainwashed monkeys stuck in the 7th century worship a black rock is more like it. Plus they idolize a book. Once an idolator always an idolater.

Posted by: Mullahmasher at June 10, 2005 1:31 PM

My dear Carolyn2,

You ask: "By the way, my spine feels pretty good, how about yours RS? I haven't noticed my spine being removed from my body in the last few days."

Well, thanks for asking. My posture could be better, but otherwise my spine is just fine...

All the best
Robert Spencer

Posted by: jihadwatch at June 10, 2005 1:50 PM

Robert--

I would like you to explain yet again what those initials "s.w.t." mean. Youth wants to know.

Posted by: Hugh at June 10, 2005 2:02 PM

Alot of comments coming back from those I
E-mailed the Jackson Hights video to, maybe they will be demanding royalties, say didn't I catch a glance of Michael Moore in the background eating a coney Island hot dog?

Posted by: Mackie at June 10, 2005 2:06 PM

If they don't want their galatically stupid acts disseminated then perhaps:

1) They should have done this in a dark room
2) Without a camera
3) Spent all day defining moderate Islam?

This is like so many Arabs I know complaining MEMRI is biased, and that's why they make arabs look so bad.

Posted by: epaminondas at June 10, 2005 2:11 PM

Cher Hugh,

SWT stands for "Subhanahu wa ta'ala," which means "May he be glorified and exalted," or more fully: "Glory be to Allah on high. Far removed is he from any imperfection." These words carry more weight than they may seem: most commonly they are understood by Muslims to mean that "Allah is pure of having partners and he is exalted above having a son." In other words, the statement carries anti-Christian overtones.

As ever
Robert

Posted by: jihadwatch at June 10, 2005 2:12 PM

Man, all this spine ripping and painful torment from Allah ... makes you wonder if the Islamists aren't just playing "What Would Allah Do?" whenever they are running amok and blowing themselves up.

Allah is portrayed by the Islamists themselves as a vicious bloodthirsty homicidal psychopath who kills and tortures over petty grievances. Asking “What would Allah do?” is a pretty easy question to answer. Allah would do something violent, selfish, and senseless.

Posted by: f.g. at June 10, 2005 2:24 PM

That is just the kind of commentary one needs, because had you stopped at simply providing a translation -- "May he be glorified and exalted," or more fully: "Glory be to Allah on high. Far removed is he from any imperfection" --one would have remained in the dark, as apologists for Islam would have all of us remain, about the anti-Christian hint of "shirk" or polytheism.

I don't think many people realize that in Islam, for all the talk by clever Muslim Outreach people, who like to round up the most naive and trusting of Christians and Jews for a little chat, a little "diaglogue," a little chicken-and-pita-with-taqiyya, kitman sauce on the side, that these are the "three fellow monotheisms" in fact Christians, especially those who believe in the Trinity, are charged with being polytheists. Keep that in mind the next time the Muslim siren-songs are offered up in your town.

It never ends. The hall of mirrors. The deception. The code-words. The omissions. The misstatements. The selective quotation. The failure to mention the doctrine of naskh. The little oversight whereby Hadith and Sira are never brought up. No, it never ends.

Posted by: Hugh at June 10, 2005 2:26 PM

"And may Allah s.w.t. continue to humiliate the enemies of Islam & Muslims. May Allah s.w.t. give painful torment to Robert Spencer..."

Is there ever a time when moslems pray for their own well being or the well being of others? Is there nothing in their prayers except sadistic torture? Allah must be a dominatrix.

As a Jew, I cannot fathom praying to God to rip out somebody's spine, or asking God that someone should be tortured. I'm sure it is a thought process no less mind boggling to Christians, too.

Time to RICO islam. Once it's categorized as organized crime, not religion, we can begin flushing out these scumbags without worrying what Amnesty International or the National Lawyers Guild thinks. Enough already.

Posted by: Madzionist at June 10, 2005 2:55 PM

Related, but somewhat OT:

This article by Jessica duLong who frequently writes for Newsday attempts to put lipstick on the pig that is Siraj Wahhj of the Masjid At-Taqwa mosque in Brooklyn.

The article is published in the May/June 2005 issue of "Saudi Aramco World" magazine put out by the PR group at Saudi Aramco.

http://12.151.162.56/sa/pubs/SA_World/may_jun2005/p20_imam.pdf

If the link does not work try www.saudiaramcoworld.com

Posted by: cjrtx at June 10, 2005 2:56 PM

As a Jew, I cannot fathom praying to God to rip out somebody's spine, or asking God that someone should be tortured. I'm sure it is a thought process no less mind boggling to Christians, too.

Posted by: Madzionist

Madzionist - This Christian is UTTERLY APPALLED by it

SWT stands for "Subhanahu wa ta'ala," which means "May he be glorified and exalted," or more fully: "Glory be to Allah on high. Far removed is he from any imperfection." These words carry more weight than they may seem: most commonly they are understood by Muslims to mean that "Allah is pure of having partners and he is exalted above having a son." In other words, the statement carries anti-Christian overtones.

Wow! Robert? I didn't know that.

I find it offensive

Posted by: Beth at June 10, 2005 3:09 PM

"May Allah pummel all infidels with cake and give them painful ingrown toenails!"

These Jihadists are really starting to crack me up.

Posted by: Salami, Salami, Bologna at June 10, 2005 3:51 PM

What I find offensive is that they should associate this idea of a perfectly pure, perfectly supreme God, with their own hatred and spleen. If we admit any idea of God at all, then God must be perfect. And what idea of perfection, of utter purity and utter greatness, can possibly be associated with hatred and violence, with revelling in filthy blood and guts? Approaching God is such a transcendent idea that I, for one, find it frightening; and these men speak of it in one breath with their odious and petty passions of vengeance. Have they ever even begun to think about God at all?

Posted by: Paolo at June 10, 2005 4:55 PM

I would like to see these chicken necks try that dance in Bensonhurst and see how reseptive the community is, or outside Yankee Stadium after the Yanks lose. I think I might put toegether a list of great places for Islamic protests so they can vent at the very people they are speaking about instead of in their own third world neighborhood.

Posted by: sonofliberty at June 10, 2005 5:45 PM

Paolo,

they follow the moon god allah who is the evil twin of mohammed the deluded. Their belief system remains basically unchanged since the 7th century. So really they are practicing a tribal "religion" based on a god of power who has many anthropomorphic qualities and acts like a barbarian.

Posted by: the poetess at June 10, 2005 5:53 PM

For those who want to know what these "thinkers" have in mind for Robert, imagine the following (since I can't remember the reference): A young Palestinian kid--maybe 12-13 or thereabouts--was successfully persuaded to carry out a suicide bombing.

As part of the post-bombing investigation, photos were taken by Israeli authorities; The kid's head was fairly intact, and his eyes were still open, but since the explosives were strapped around his waist, the rest of the body was...well, elsewhere. Make that "elsewheres."

The only part of the kid that was still attached to the head was what looked like about 2/3 of the spinal cord coming out the foramen magnum.

He had quite literaly been hoist on his own petard. . .

If not citizens, they should be deported. If there are not adequate laws on the books to do this, pass those laws. . .I have no doubt you too will want to burn the midnight oil figuring out how to remove people who, even if they managed to perjure themselves to obtain citizenship, cannot possibly be loyal to anything like the United States of America.

And what will those whose duty it is to protect us -- do?

Posted by: Hugh at June 10, 2005 08:07 AM

Hugh,

As you and several others among us have proposed in the past, several imporant oaths (e.g. the one required for naturalization, for entering the military, for assuming political office, etc. etc.) could easily form the basis for laws that could help accomplish the worthy goal of excluding Muslims from citizenship as many other important functions of our culture and country. Can't we start with the perjury thing?

After all, there is not a practicing Muslim alive who can take these and similar oaths without, as you state, perjuring himself. Last I heard, it wasn't nice to perjure.

All we have to do is to take these oaths seriously, and ka-boom! A giant step towards the marginalization of this unsavory element of the population has been taken!

Hugh for State

Last, but not least, although OT:

Did you all see Debra Burlingame on Fox this morning? She discussed some very serious problems with the current plans for the "memorial" (NOT) being proposed at the site of the Twin Towers.

For all the gory details, go read the June 9 FromPageMag article by Jacob Laksin.

It is entitled "How the Left Hijacked the September 11 Memorial."

It is a truly gag-worthy expose of how the Left has converted the purpose of the Memorial from a true Memorial to those who died into an anti-American propoganda palace.

We have only until the end of 2005 to see to it that we rescue it from these disgusting people.
For those who want to know what these "thinkers" have in mind for Robert, imagine the following (since I can't remember the reference): A young Palestinian kid--maybe 12-13 or thereabouts--was successfully persuaded to carry out a suicide bombing.

As part of the post-bombing investigation, photos were taken by Israeli authorities; The kid's head was fairly intact, and his eyes were still open, but since the explosives were strapped around his waist, the rest of the body was...well, elsewhere. Make that "elsewheres."

The only part of the kid that was still attached to the head was what looked like about 2/3 of the spinal cord coming out the foramen magnum.

He had quite literaly been hoist on his own petard. . .

If not citizens, they should be deported. If there are not adequate laws on the books to do this, pass those laws. . .I have no doubt you too will want to burn the midnight oil figuring out how to remove people who, even if they managed to perjure themselves to obtain citizenship, cannot possibly be loyal to anything like the United States of America.

And what will those whose duty it is to protect us -- do?

Posted by: Hugh at June 10, 2005 08:07 AM

Hugh,

As several of us have proposed in the past, including you, several imporant oaths (e.g. the one required for naturalization, for entering the military, for assuming political office, etc. etc.) could easily form the basis for laws that could help accomplish the worthy goal of excluding Muslims from citizenship and many other important functions of our culture and country.

There is not a practicing Muslim alive who can take these and similar oaths in good conscience. All we have to do is to take them seriously, and ka-boom! A giant step towards the marginalization of this unsavory element of the population has been taken!

Hugh for State

Last, but not least, although OT:

Have you all seen the June 9 FromPageMagazine article by Jacob Laksin?

It is "How the Left Hijacked the September 11 Memorial."

It is a truly gag-worthy expose of how the Left has converted the purpose of the Memorial from a Memorial to an anti-American propoganda palace. You won't believe how disgusting it is.

We have only until the end of 2005 to see to it that we rescue the plan from these disgusting people.


Start by going to the website, http://www.takebackthememorial.com.

Git 'er done.

Posted by: Cubed at June 10, 2005 7:19 PM

My dear spouse of 43 years may be right. I need a new computer. Or more than 4 hours' of sleep a night.

Posted by: Cubed at June 10, 2005 7:20 PM

Or maybe some more lessons on how to use this thing.

Sheeze.

Posted by: Cubed at June 10, 2005 7:25 PM

this is getting rough to read anyone else have some info on it like has it been settled? is it real? etc...

http://voi.org/books/tcqp/

The Calcutta Quran Petition

Compiled with an introduction by

Sita Ram Goel

Voice of India, New Delhi

Posted by: jimmytheclaw at June 10, 2005 10:18 PM

cubed-

And I thought you were just giving us a little James Joycean linguistic evocation, in disjointed paragraphs, of what a suicide bomber looked like.

RE: spine rippers, and the joys of 'holy' murder-

I am wondering what kind of outrage it will take to wake up enough Americans (and all the rest in the West) to the seriousness of the anti-Constitutional, anti-International Declaration of Human Rights threat posed by believers in Imperialistic Islam.

Freedom will be under mortal threat until the day comes when Muslims renounce the homicidal and intolerant core of their faith.

(Is the Devil wearing earmuffs yet?)

Meanwhile-

Here's an useful link for those wondering about the cyber-(in)security behind the online jihadist assaults (among others).

http:/www2.csoonline.com/blog_view.html?ID=742

Posted by: BigSleep at June 10, 2005 11:02 PM

The hyperlink above needed two back slashes, sorry:

http://www2.csoonline/blog_view.html?ID=742

Or just search through the main page for "blogs":

http://www.csoonline.com/

Much useful info.

Posted by: BigSleep at June 10, 2005 11:09 PM

Hi, BigSleep,

I actually got SEVEN hours of sleep last night! Thanks for your understanding (never did like James Joyce!), and I really hope people were able to wade through the mess and get something out of it.

The Frontpagemag article by Jacob Laksin at http://frontpagemag.com/Articles/Printable.asp?ID=18360 is very informative, as is the http://www.takebackthememorial.com site.

Thanks, guys. Maybe I'm making more sense today.

Posted by: Cubed at June 11, 2005 10:50 AM

It is astounding that the same vile mentality that perpetrated the 9/11 atrocities feels comfortable defiling our country's flag on the streets of New York, just three an a half years later. Simply amazing. I hope every NYPD precinct house and every FDNY station has a link to this video -- especially near the end where these shit-bags actually show their faces.

Posted by: Infidel33 at June 11, 2005 12:47 PM