Ahmed, 39, a citizen of Pakistan, is fighting to stay in the U.S.

After urging Muslims to fight Americans, he now fights to stay in America.

WHY? What's wrong with staying in Pakistan?

Posted by: yadayada at June 25, 2005 10:08 AM

Give the ice cream truck driver the boot! Simply amazing how a humble ice cream vendor has the money to tour Paki-Land to give them advice, to exhort them evn more so to Jihad. In this case killing Americans, the people he chose to live with.

Muhammedan two facedness has no limit. Takiyya ain't just for Shi'ia any more!

Posted by: dennisw at June 25, 2005 10:32 AM

I'm sure our legal system will find a way to accomodate the new, improved version of "The Devil made me do it" defense.

I was up to my eyeballs in Muslim taqiyya months ago. Now I'm drowning in it. Someone throw me a life preserver.

Posted by: Beagle at June 25, 2005 10:34 AM

Beagle:

Your life preserver is your first amendment right to freedom of speech.

Hopefully we don't lose it in regards to being able to criticise religion as they have foolishly in Australia.

Regards
Mackie

Posted by: Mackie at June 25, 2005 11:03 AM

"he gave speeches to Muslims urging them to fight Americans in Afghanistan in the months following the September 11 attacks

Shabbir Ahmed told a judge that "it was a requirement of all imams. If you don't people turn against you.

Ohhhh, now we understand, Shabbir. What a dashing explanation for exhorting your fellow fools to kill Americans. Let's hope the 9th Circus Court of Appeals is not involved in this or Shabbir could get a free pass.
Better get your towel pressed and ready for action, Shabbir. I say you're on the road back to Pakistan where your worthless ass belongs. But before he goes we should give him a few minutes with Bubba in Arkansas so he could better explain why he wanted Americans killed.

Posted by: ivehadenuff at June 25, 2005 11:25 AM

Gitmo, Gitmo, Gitmo!

I heard there are about 30 cells empty at "Camp X-Ray" in Guantanamo, of those 'not-quite terrorists' who were freed (a dozen or so then found their way back to the battlefield, again... showing the brilliance of the U.S. military-legal complex).

"From Lodi to Gitmo".

(Sounds like the makings of a song there!)

Posted by: BigSleep at June 25, 2005 11:38 AM

He preaches that Americans should be killed, then he wants to stay in America because it is better than anywhere else his worthless butt could be sent.

If his words weren't so threatening, it would almost be laughable.

Posted by: Moose at June 25, 2005 11:39 AM

Mackie
Your're spot on mate. And fate has given us JW/DW in which we can use as a base to educate ourselves and then use our freedom of speech to educate the uninformed. As an aside, I don't think any smart Aussies are going to let any PC legislation get in their way of spreading the truth about this primitive religious cult.

Posted by: William The Crusader at June 25, 2005 12:16 PM

The following informative post is found on the lgf website:

Unreal for 30 Days

As Debbie Schlussel discovered when she agreed to appear in a documentary by Michael Moore wannabe Morgan Spurlock, Hollywood isn’t just shying away from the entire topic of radical Islam—they’re actively engaged in concealing the truth from Americans: Unreal for 30 Days.
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No, the producers told me. “Morgan wants the show to demonstrate to America that we are Islamophobic and that 9/11’s biggest victims are Muslims.”

The fact of the matter is that Muslims are the laziest group on the face of the earth who simply will not police their own.

The rest of the world has to historically and repeatedly confront the violent roots of Islam. LGF Weblog

Posted by: Report at June 25, 2005 1:55 PM

Dear Report,

I love the LGF site, and think everyone should be reading it, but I thought you might be interested to know that you could also have found the article you cite right here at Jihad Watch:

http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/006776.php

Posted yesterday.

Cordially
Robert Spencer

Posted by: jihadwatch at June 25, 2005 1:59 PM

From :Are Immigrants Loyal"

Since the Hayat family is directly related to Pakistani religious royalty why, wonders Pipes, are Umer and Hamid in California toiling as unskilled laborers by selling ice cream from a cart and picking cherries?

How can these or any other immigrants be considered "loyal" if their personal ideology, in this case Islam, demands that they eschew or disallow loyalty to a political or national entity? Does their loyalty oath or affirmation have any meaning if they are loyal in as much as loyalty doesn't violate the tenets of Islam, which of course demands that they pledge no loyalty or do so as taqiyya, lying for survival?

Obviously they can not be loyal, they can not be trusted, and are a danger to all the citizens of the United States.

I echo the question: "What are 'religious royalty' doing as unskilled laborers doing selling ice cream and picking cherries?"

This isn't rocket science.

Posted by: epg at June 25, 2005 2:00 PM

Having lived with Muslims for 26 years and know Quran...they not only want kill infidels, but hide that, that is called "Taquia" not to Shaw your real intentions..who could beleive that 15 out of the 19 suicide bombers come from a "friendly " country Saudi

Posted by: Cheeky monkey at June 26, 2005 3:58 AM

Is it the "people" who will turn against mullahs who don't preach jihad or is it their paymasters back in KAS?

Posted by: waterdragon52 at June 27, 2005 9:34 AM