Well Said.

Posted by: have_mercy at July 16, 2005 8:28 AM

These are essentially Nazis, and their pathological mental condition -- antisemitism -- which determines everything about their worldview, finds its natural home nowadays on the side of Islam. This is as it should be. If you have a totalitarian frame of mind, and you simply add a dash or two of antisemitism, if you cannot bear the complexities of life and wish to have a Total Regulation of Your Own LIfe, if not the lone invididual but marching around in a group, or raising your arm in unison with others at a balaklava-clad rally, under a green and black flag, or if praying like an automaton with other automatons is what pleases you -- well, Islam is for you. The psychically marginal everywhere, who might once have had a choice of cults, will now prefer, if they are looking for a vehicle to express their hatred of the circumambient society, will -- with or without recital of the Shehada, make common cause with Islam. It fits perfectly.

And meanwhile, out of Islam will stream those who, through no fault of their own, were born into it, and have managed to overcome their fears, their filial piety, their insistence even as their faith grows thin of being "Muslim-for-identification-purposes-only" Muslims, and are finally ready to leave this art-constrining, science-constraining, mind-constraining, freedom-constraining cult, the largest cult in human history.

They will get the mental and emotional dregs of our societies, and we will get the very best of theirs to leave Islam. Unfortunately, numbers count, and there are, in any population, always more of those seduced by primitive appeals to hatred and a "community" than are those who are repelled by such appeals. That is why, even if some Muslims abandon Islam, the numbers are not sufficient to continue to permit any Muslim immigration into Infidel lands, and that is merely a start at legitimate self-defense.

Posted by: Hugh at July 16, 2005 8:35 AM

Islam and Nazism were allies in WW2 too.
What with el-Husseini the mufti of Jerusalem spending the war in Berlin helping to implement the Holocaust, the Bosnian Muslim volunteers in the Waffen SS's Hanzar division, Albanian Muslims in the Waffen's Skendebeg division, pro-Nazi uprising in Baghdad, the threats in the Arab world of what would happen if the British allowed Jews to escape to Palestine. Even after the war Muslim countries such as Syria allowed Nazi war criminals asylum such as Alois Bruner.

Posted by: Elephant at July 16, 2005 8:57 AM

The psychically marginal everywhere, who might once have had a choice of cults, will now prefer, if they are looking for a vehicle to express their hatred of the circumambient society, will -- with or without recital of the Shehada, make common cause with Islam. It fits perfectly

The fourth bomber was a Jamaican convert. Islamists have played on black peoples fears of marginalisation and ingratiated the Islamic narrative of 'justice' into the aggrieved narrative of racism and slavery. (The narrative of Islamic slavery and Darfur-Sudan genocide in the name of Islam are mere Zionist fabrications to be ignored, of course)

More and more black people in Britain are converting to Islam, especially in prison (Richard Reid the shoe bomber was a petty criminal who found answers there)

Posted by: Zico at July 16, 2005 9:10 AM

Mr. Spencer:

For the bulk of us Christian fundamentalists, the Aryan Nations have always been a heresy (the classical term for a cult) preaching a gospel of race rather than one of grace. Yet the MSM and most secular liberals will never recognize our thoughts and feelings on the matter.

Your posting reveals something that I have long suspected and argued concerning these radical cults: they hate something or someone (in this case the JOOOOOZ) more than they love anything, including God or their own families. I have a sneaky suspicion that their religious "identity" could well change to a kind of "White Nation of Islam" within a few years--a racial ideology washed with a veneer of exoticism, like Elijah Muhammad's and Louis Farrakhan's cult.

However, it seems to me that the Aryan Nations and kin are about as marginal as they come, and their terrorist record, while real, are small potatoes compared with what Islamofascists are doing worldwide.

Posted by: Kepha at July 16, 2005 9:29 AM

Christianity isn't bloodthirsty enough for them.

Only Islam can truly satisfy their bloodlust.

Posted by: Voltaire at July 16, 2005 9:33 AM

Some more lunartrickery...These nazi types must really be a bunch of dumbshts...First class dhimmi's, or second class, if not paying that everlovin tax. These dhimi/dumbies dont know that they also are hated by the jihadist's, and any agreement's made will eventually be broken.
These stupid azz'es dont realise that they and their families are also in the cross hairs of terrorism...

Posted by: duh_swami at July 16, 2005 10:08 AM

Hugh wrote...That is why, even if some Muslims abandon Islam, the numbers are not sufficient to continue to permit any Muslim immigration into Infidel lands, and that is merely a start at legitimate self-defense...

The first step America can take is declare a moratorium on Muslim inbound immigration. Let the ACLU, the superdhimmis, and the taquiyya masters scream discrimination. It is an easy step to achieve if our leaders and congressmen have the cajones.

Posted by: reset at July 16, 2005 10:12 AM

The Aryan Nations has at its disposal some of America’s most hardened and radical criminals. The Nazis’ alliance with Islamic Jihadist bestows a windfall of logistical resources for Jihadist to draw upon. It is no secret that the Aryans are armed to the hilt, possessing great stores of armaments and explosive, as well as, secluded backwater properties for training and other nefarious purposes.

The fact that they are White men living in areas where they do not readily arouse suspicion makes them a potent ally to Muslim terrorists seeking to construct and transport massive amounts of explosives for attacks on dams and other vital installations.

The nexus of these groups in such an alliance is indeed frightening. However, law enforcement has penetrated such groups in the past, which gives me hope that if they would ever cooperate on launching major attacks on vital installations, the government might be able to prevent that.

Although lingering doubts remain as to the veracity of Jihadist involvement with Timothy McVeigh in the Oklahoma City bombing, the claim was put forth by government instigators.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_McVeigh

Since such claims by investigators were not followed all the way by the Federal Bureau of Incompetence, or as some claimed was deliberately suppressed, casts a shadow on those who deny such links.

Posted by: have_mercy at July 16, 2005 10:13 AM

They are as dumb as Hitler who mixed up his semites.

Posted by: David England at July 16, 2005 10:38 AM

Dodos of a feather flock together.

These white 'Aryan' numbnuts are going to be a little surprised to see their website endorsing a rival thrill-kill cult which encourages all 'races' to join under its banner of "BACK TO THE 7TH CENTURY!"

I guess "killing off the Jews" takes precedence over everything for these neo-Nazi clones. Even though it spells their own doom as a dominant factor, should the 'pan-racial' jihadists succeed. Then the pseudo-'Christian' Aryan 'white folk' will be relegated to the second-class status of the 'dhimmi', unless they convert to 'multi-racial' Islam (hardly appealing to these 'race purists').

Somebody in this white supremacist organization is showing us that they are not only their usual irrational, ass-backward, hate-mongering, un-scientific, brain-dead dipsh*t self, but also unable to think their way our of a wet paper bag.

Do they really imagine a few thousand white guys and gals in the Western world will survive the Islamic Imperialistic world 'congregation' of over a billion adherents? Or somehow dominate them, once those pesky Hebrews are gone?

(I just googled the worlds "world-historical morons" and the 'Aryans' were the first site that came up. ---I don't wonder why.)

Slightly OT-

Modern DNA science shows that we are ALL essentially Africans. And that, looking at the soles of black Africans' feet, we are all originally "white" (ironically enough for the proud black racists) who, by changing diets, and variations of sun exposure, and adaptation to new climates, turned ALL the current colors and shapes we see.

And we also gained enough genetic diversity to help preserve the species, as a whole, against pandemic onslaughts by devious little viruses and bacteria.

'Pure' races are not only a nucleic myth, but the urge to narrow the gene pool, as the 'Aryans' strive for, is a laughably unconscious form of biological suicide, since it opens up that 'pure breed' to inbreeding's flaws (cleft palates, sickle cell anemia, etc.) and reduces their adaptability and their organismic self-defense potential to fight off constantly mutating diseases.

They are throwing away the greatest human strength (the "mutt's advantage") to chase after a sickly phantasm of delusional 'purity'.

In a way, it is poetic justice.

"Oh what a tangled web we weave
When first we practice to deceive." -(ourselves, especially).

Although the prospect of a joint march (in some major American city) between neo-stormtroopers and hooded KKK clowns and scarf-masked Muslim jihadists would at least get the Islamicists exposed to the sleepy public for what they really are: Islamo-nazis.

Posted by: BigSleep at July 16, 2005 10:40 AM

BigSleep...a magickal tenent: "Always tell yourself the truth, and always do what is right".
That a tough one for most people...not possible at all for Islamics...

Posted by: duh_swami at July 16, 2005 11:35 AM

This is indeed a welcome admission. By not only aligning themselves with the muslims, but at the same time distancing themselves from true Christians, these ignorant bastards effectively destroy one of the Useful Idiot's favorite "straw men", the morally equivalent "right wing Christians".

Posted by: NonProphet16 at July 16, 2005 11:39 AM

Are there any good books that compare Islam and Naziism? I did not read Walid Shoebat's book entitled WHY I LEFT JIHAD. However, on television and readio interviews, Shoebat states that his memoir has a section comparing Islam and Naziism.

Posted by: Christian at July 16, 2005 12:02 PM

On the site mentioned here, the attack of 9-11 is referred to as "the World Trade Center Air Show".

Posted by: Carolyn2 at July 16, 2005 12:10 PM

Hmmmm,

Let me see here, the white supremacists are the "saviors of Islamic ideology" yet aligned with Islam. However, they are biblically endorsing only fragments of Bible, and using this to connect to Islamic teachings? Ahem.., these fruitcakes are not only out of touch with reality, history, logic and philosophy, but more importantly, they will sit at the left hand chair of hell, with the rest of the evil mentality that has risen to the ash pile of history, primarily by choosing a twisted in humane ideology, that never wins.

Mr. Spencer, I wouldn't even have wasted my time to bring these morons any space in your fine website. I suppose that if child abuse didn't exist, there probably be no white supremacists groups out there, unless of course one sees any abnormality of behavior as an excuse for aggressive, anti everything mentality. If not that, then maybe, evil is really alive and well on planet earth, and those who seek it find it?

Every time I see articles about these organizations, I want to throw up, preferably in the faces of the perpetrators of this very poisoned view of humanity. The only reason they exist here in the US, is because of our tolerance of free speech. I wonder if they will ever understand the force behind the concept that tolerance is a 1st step for world peace, unless of course, one has the wrong ideology, cloaked in fragmented out of context religious connected belief systems, and tailored for their own morality..........Need I say more?

Posted by: WOG at July 16, 2005 12:14 PM

"These are essentially Nazis, and their pathological mental condition -- antisemitism -- which determines everything about their worldview, finds its natural home nowadays on the side of Islam." Hugh

I was hoping everyone would see this group for what they are....total Nazis! Have you ever seen an interview with the lower masses in this group? A totaly illiterate bunch!

Posted by: rumoret at July 16, 2005 2:02 PM

WOG, it's important to expose these cockroaches to the light of truth. KNowledge is our best hope to sway the public.

Posted by: kevin at July 16, 2005 2:27 PM

If you are known by the company you keep then I suppose it was only inevitable that these losers in society would find each other.

Posted by: johnb at July 16, 2005 2:55 PM

30 years ago I became aware that the Jew haters of Islam were busy forming bonds of "solidarity" with anti-Semitic zealots of the West. For reasons I won't discuss at the moment, I was present as a guest at parties thrown by various ambassadors to Canada. I recall particularly the array of local racist crackpots invited to the functions of the Iraqi Embassy and the Arab Information Centre (PLO). The sanity of these guests was not an issue with the hosts. The fact that they were obsessed with the Jewish conspiracy to dominate the planet was enough for them to be reckoned geniuses. White nutbars and diplomatic staff would validate each others' paranoia all evening as they discussed the Jewish domination of Hollywood and the Western media, which prohibited a word of truth getting through to the benighted, ignorant masses of North America. Canadian losers in the world of business would explain how for years their progress had been sabotaged by the Jews. Apparently the Jews knew that said losers were aware of too much "dangerous truth" about what they were up to and therefore had the losers "spied on" 24/7. One of them (not the Jews, but the losers) some years later was central in the sponsoring of lectures in Ottawa by British Holocaust denier David Irving. It comes as no shock to me that the phenominally hate-filled scum of the Aryan Nations find themselves in bed with militant Islam. They have only one thing in common, but that one thing is enough to form an idealogical (and undoubtedly financial) marriage, the deeply held conviction of both that "the Jew has to go".

Posted by: Happy_Kafir at July 16, 2005 5:03 PM

Well said Happy_Kafir. I have realised the same thing. I am thinking of buying a book that was recommended here on JW, called "the Nazi Connection" and details Hajj Amin's and Hitler's doings and their aftermath.

Also, Kenneth Timmerman has come out with a new book detailing Iran's nuclear program and how if it's not stopped now, we will all be dust.

Posted by: Ibn Rushd at July 16, 2005 7:47 PM

- jihadis will have nothing to do with them for two simple reasons: a) the AN isn’t muslim, b) It is widely known that the AN is filled with deep cover feds. Duh.

The only practical results of this “alliance” are:

1) The ADL will go into a fund raising frenzy.
2) The fbi will bust an AN “plot” thus proving they are “serious about fighting terror” while continuing to ignore the satanic cult of death and avoiding any bad press from arab/muslim terror fronts posing as ‘civil-rights’ organizations. And in fact, those terror fronts will laud the fbi because it fits their agenda perfectly.
3) A giant display of AN impotence - by having to allign with the very “mud people” they’ve spoken of killing before - in order to get any press.

Posted by: Itai at July 16, 2005 10:52 PM