"If you try to cross the line I can't guarantee what is going to happen. Our young people, we can't control,"

"And they said, 'Do you know some of the names of those people you expect to cause some problems?' And I said, 'You just open the telephone directory.' "

Has Canada not taken an official position against participating in the war in Iraq? So then what is the reasoning for such hostility and belligerent statements?

Oh. Maybe Canada is too closely aligned with the Infidel running dog Americans? Or maybe the problem is just Islam?

I'm amazed that the UK and Canada continue to tolerate such threatening paranoid zealots.

His immediate future should include either deportation or incarceration - or both.

Posted by: NVRambo at July 25, 2005 8:36 AM

This is the price they pay for introducing the Multicultural Act in the eighties.

Posted by: Leveller at July 25, 2005 9:11 AM

Notice how, the non-terrorist Imam, Threatens terror when challenged. The line "If you try to cross the line I can't guarantee what is going to happen. Our young people, we can't control." Is like saying you don't have to worry about me but I have the brother-in-law that carries a gun in the back of his pickup and he goers nuts on command.

Posted by: Twig at July 25, 2005 9:25 AM

Let's see, radical Muslims around the world routinely attack Western cities. So the police become more vigilant. And then they complain that the police are overstepping their bounds. Maybe they should be complaining more about the people (and I use the term loosely) who are committing the attacks in the first place?

Posted by: idontslam at July 25, 2005 9:27 AM

Mr. Hindy's comments justified the very racial profiling he denounces. If all the Canadian officials have to do is crack open a directory then why not single out Arabs. If preserving honour at all costs is on their agenda, peace can not be

Posted by: Psalm144 at July 25, 2005 9:30 AM

"If you try to cross the line I can't guarantee what is going to happen."

In other words, if you don't stop accusing us of being terrorists, we'll kill you.

"Our young people, we can't control,"

That's funny. You can control them when it's time to go to prayer; when it's time to get up at 5:00 a.m. to pray; you can control what they eat; you can control what they say; you can control what they think; you can control what they wear; you can control how they use the bathroom; you can control who they invent as "enemie"; AND you can control who they take as friends....but you CAN'T control who and when they attack? Maybe we'll soon see "Southern Asian"*-versus-police riots a'la England in the '90s.

*- I.e. Bangladeshi and Pakistani Muslims

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Mr. Hindy, who has long complained that CSIS is spying on him, his family and his mosque,

Most people that do this are usually considered "crazy." Kind of reminds me of David Koresh: "THEY'RE OUT TO GET US! So let's turn all these guns into machine guns and sell them to raise money... and let's not let our kids out either."

told Ms. McLellan that a young Muslim woman complained to him she was roughed up by Canadian spies while her husband was away at prayers.

Yep, Canadian spies just sit around waiting, watching the cameras they keep in every Muslim house. As soon as a Muslim goes to prayer--and leaves his wife home(?)--they POUNCE!!! Just like the Zionists make them.

This allegation could spur reprisals because "our women..."

I.e. the women they OWN.

...are the most valuable thing to us" and "for a Muslim, honour is more important than his life."

It would be more correct to say "Our 7th-century perception of honor is more important to us than the lives of EVERYONE."

Yes, we know that honor is more important that your life. If you just committed suicide every time you felt dishonored, everything would be fine. But you don't; you kill OTHER PEOPLE. That's why people like you would slit your own daughter's throat if she had a late period or was caught talking to a non-Muslim boy. That's why you'd disfigure your wife's face if she was caught talking to another man. That's why you'd kill your wife if she "blasphemed the prophet."

Yes, history is full (even recent history) of Muslims proving that "honor" is more important to them than life, especially other peoples' life.

Posted by: kj at July 25, 2005 9:37 AM

Looks like Canada has a problem: A real Mohammedan one, and home-made too. What's the population again and how high is the percentage of infiltraitors?

Posted by: Terminator at July 25, 2005 9:47 AM

The solution to this bullsh*t is simple, make and enforce laws forbidding the incitement of terrorism. Start slapping people into prison for the rest of their natural lives every time someone starts preaching Jihad and they will soon stop preaching it.

No Korans for people convicted of promoting terrorism in prison either. We don't hand out white-supremist literature in prisons do we?

If you are a Muslim or you are concerned for Muslims then the best thing you can do is cooperate with authorities in the elimination of the radical element in your midst, not exacerbate things further with your egocentric remarks.

f.g.

Posted by: f.g. at July 25, 2005 9:51 AM

Not a veiled threat. A clear threat. Should that imam not be arrested for making such a threat?

And has the government of Quebec re-thought its policy of favoring francophone immigrants, so that French-speaking maghrebins are favored over Italians, Greeks, Bulgarians, and other non-Muslims who happen not to speak French? Over time, over a generation or two, whose French-speaking descendants are likelies to fit in, and whose descendants are likely, in great numbers, to represent a permanent security threat? And can this be discussed, now that Arabs and Muslims (to the great horror of, for example, the Maronites in Montreal) are carefully infiltrating the political system, and influencing or scaring Canadian politicians, including those in Quebec?

Posted by: Hugh at July 25, 2005 9:58 AM

« I am afraid that God has sent these men to lay waste the world ».
- Patriarch Cyrus of Alexandria, while negotiating the surrender of Alexandria to the Muslims, 640 AD.

Posted by: Russell at July 25, 2005 10:42 AM

Reminds me of Arafat:

"...I cannnot garrrranteee yorrr safety..."

To a reporter who filmed the jubilant riots of the Paleys after 9/11 and wouldn't turn over the filmed material. He realized the threat was real and turned the filmed material over....

Posted by: Terminator at July 25, 2005 10:55 AM

(God I love this thread)
Than you Hugh for clarifying the probable consequences of Quebec's foolish immigration policies. Enlightening. (I'm still trying to figure out who screws Canada more, Ontario or Quebec.)
So Anne probably had to keep smiling and stand shitfaced while this Islamic imam shill spewed his agenda . ("whom the gods would destroy they first make....."

Posted by: dgene at July 25, 2005 11:13 AM

Listen muslims and listen close..

We do not wish to hurt or injure any muslim.
Notice our attitude versus the muslims which inspired by the Koran demands death to all non muslims..

Personally i dont care what you believe you can believe whatever you desire and when you die you will find out the Jesus is GOD and that God doesnt even know Mohammed...

BUT IF YOU THINK WE WILL BOW DOWN TO ISLAM AND KISS YOUR MUSLIM BUTT YOU NEED TO KNOW THIS..

WE the American people really recommend you back off before its too late..

BEFORE AMERICA WAKES UP IN A FURYIOUS RAGE AND TAKES RETRIBUTION AGAINST THE VILE ISLAMIC RELIGION totally and completly wiping it out...
You will not quench our FURIOUS RAGE...

Islam is from the devil if you want to believe in this vile filth we dont care..

PISS US OFF AND YOU WILL CARE...

Posted by: jingoist at July 25, 2005 11:36 AM

"If you try to cross the line I can't guarantee what is going to happen. Our young people, we can't control,"
Right back at you, a$$wipe!

Posted by: Carolyn2 at July 25, 2005 12:03 PM

Can there be any further doubt who the enemy is after reading the statements in this article?

This can not be about affording sympathy to Muslims any longer.

What this is about is the salvation of our cultural integrity, our collective futures and freedoms and the perpetuation of decency and human rights in this world.

Islam is a backwards cult that is hell-bent on the destruction of all that oppose its hate-filled ideology. A masogynistic, medieval view of the world that must be stamped out at all costs.

If you are Islamic and live in a free nation, I urge you now to seek another calling today. You may then truly have a chance for peace along with the rest of us and you will be showing where your loyalty really lies -- with your country.

I am very sorry for the decent people that will die in the coming war because of their affiliation with such a tainted ideology, but such is the price of fighting for what is right in this world. Blood, sweat, tears and treasure must all be paid or we might as well just roll over now and surrender out of our own lack of conviction to do what must be done.

Thankfully, I know the American and British people are not about to give up at any price.

Posted by: Foehammer at July 25, 2005 12:20 PM

NVRambo
to answer your questions yes the Canadian Government made it clear on it's position in Iraq, However, we have some of our special forces and other troops in Afganistan and are sending more. We also took part in and for awhile commanded the navel blockades and searches off the middle eastern coastal waters before and during the Gulf wars. This is why Osama has included Canada in his top 5 list of countries to hit.
This Imam should be kicked out of Canada or at least charged with incitement and preaching hate. I just wish that our politicians would wake up and start calling a spade a spade instead of hiding their heads in the PC sands. All they have to do is look at England and what happened due to it's multicultural policy and then take a look at ours here. We too, I fear, have been or are going to breed our own home grown terrorists.
May God have mercy on our country.
Firstknight

Posted by: First Knight at July 25, 2005 1:09 PM

"This is the price they pay for introducing the Multicultural Act in the eighties.

Posted by: Leveller"

Is that so? I guess I should have just given up my cultural heritage and been a lost Asian with no clue about my cultural heritage while people of french descent celebrate Mardi Gras and Irish celebrate St. Patrick's. Ah, but let us not forget the Natives whose culture is completely irrelevant to Canada since they were noble savages.

It is not Multiculturalism that is to blame but it is in how you promote it and what you allow for people to get away with. If Multiculturalism was the problem then why don't you see Hindus or Buddhists starting up their "Jihads", perhaps because we don't have such hateful thoughts.

In Canada, Multiculturalism was not actually promoted because no one learned about one another's culture. Instead everyone became extremely ghettoized. However, one must also see the context of why Multiculturalism was brought into Canada, since there was a lot of discrimination against minorities in the 1970's and before. However, one extreme does not cure the other and I do not believe that Multiculturalism in Canada was done properly, instead it gave an excuse for people to segregate themselves instead of assimilating into the greater part of the country.

I guess Leveller, you would have preferred I be called a "Paki" instead of a Gurkha/Hindu all my life?

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"AND you can control who they take as friends....but you CAN'T control who and when they attack? Maybe we'll soon see "Southern Asian"*-versus-police riots a'la England in the '90s.

*- I.e. Bangladeshi and Pakistani Muslims"

Posted by: kj

Thank God you specified Bangladeshi and Pakistani Muslims, but please do not forget that there is a huge Indian Muslim population that upon arriving in Canada, Britain or the US, immediately mixes into the Pakistani diaspora without any loyalty to India. Also, Sri Lankan Muslims, Thai/Siam Mulims, and Burmese Muslims as well.

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These groups have been in Canada since 1976.

One has to keep in mind that these groups in Canada are quite powerful due to the fact that as long as they were attacking other Asian countries, the Canadian government kept a blind eye. Ottawa knew that the ISI was involved in many Gurudwaras to help stir up the cause for Akhalistan, but then again CSIS was in favor of such moves without realising that they were allowing for the ISI and the Saudis to increase their influence by setting their spawn for the future.

Now Ottawa is facing a grave reality, which unless it gets hardline, it could face a crisis for which it is not prepared to deal with.

I am surprised that the minister tolerated such a tone from this Imam since he should realise that he is a guest in Canada and could be deported if the government finally gets some nerves.

However, the first step is to start becoming hardline and exposing muslims for what they are. As long as the government tows the "POlitically correct" attitude, the truth will not come out. Wolf on CNN was pretty good with Prince Turki during the interview but he still needed to umph it a notch and then all the truth would have been out.

We need to expose them for what they are. It is surprising that no one learned their lessons form WW2, eventually you will have to fight evil. Procrastinating accomplishes nothing.

Cheers.

Ayo Gorkhali.

Posted by: Gorkhali at July 25, 2005 1:32 PM

Same old, same old, from the beginning of time. "Stop terrorizing Muslims" means letting the do what they want regardless of how it affects non-Mulims or the societies which they are invading.

Posted by: epg at July 25, 2005 1:43 PM

The meeting was part of an effort by Ms. McLellan to reach out to Canadian Muslims

And they reached back. With a clenched fist waved in her face. In the words of the immortal Four Tops, "Reach out, reach out, I'll be there." Are you sure this is not a piece of satire scripted by the most ferocious enemy of Islam?

Posted by: Paolo at July 25, 2005 1:59 PM

Something of a disconnect, isn't it, for a religion that is all about submission, for Ali-Hindy to claim they can't control their young 'uns.

I wonder why.

Posted by: waterdragon52 at July 25, 2005 2:45 PM

Here's a CBC link to Hindy's support for the "Khadr Klan" and his support for the Egyptian
Muslim making a video of Toronto's Subway Station and the CN Tower just 2 months after the Spain bombings on the transit system.

Also,this Yahoo was the same Muslim that welcomed the Khadr's to his Mosque and has
stated on TV that the members are raising
funds to help the family since welfare doesn't pay all their expenses.
When a reporter asked about the Khadr's coming to Canada for the free health care that will be a burden on tax-payers, Aly Hindy said that "Non-Muslims are a greater burden on social programs" .

Wasn't that how Hitler united Germans to justify his views on the value to purge society of the weak and ill, and once the cleansing of the "Father Land" took root it became easier to expand this good intention to the next level and built death camps to exterminate the Gypsy's,homosexuals,religious leaders,and the elderly that were going to die soon anyway.
When that stage was accepted the next project was the "Final solution" to rid Europe of "The Jews" and now the IslamoNazis are the new threat and will kill all the infidels to claim the world for Allah and Islam.

http://bag.cbc.ca/search?ie=&site=CBC&output=xml_no_dtd&client=CBC&lr=&getfields=description&proxystylesheet=CBC&oe=&q=Aly+Hindy&x=22&y=11

Posted by: ala-sux at July 25, 2005 7:49 PM

Our young people, we can't control

Should read: Our young people, we won't control. A very definite threat. Like kj says, they have complete control of their young people but when it comes to lashing out at Canada, they'll gladly unleash the animals.

They're as bold as can be. In our faces. Point-blank. No beating around the bushes. No vague language. The threat is clear. Here, too, in Australia. Lately, we've had several of these subversive vermin speak right out, in the papers and on the television, telling us exactly what they think. And it's been disgusting Australians all over the country.

I'm glad they're out in the open. I'm glad they're putting some of their cards on the table for all to see. They're doing a great job of revealing what Islam is really about. There's only so much we can do, talking to our family and friends. Some of them dismiss us as bigots and racists, others say we're paranoid and no, Muslims are great people just like everyone else, don't you know? Well, here you go, doubting Thomases of the world - hear what's coming out of their mouths, and tell me again that I'm being paranoid or bigoted.

Of course, the apologists start up with the "oh, but they're only a tiny minority" cover-up, damage-control BS. But even that's looking a little lame with more and more people.

It seems to be coming to a head. We're coming out of our daze, and confronting the issue.

Posted by: feralee at July 25, 2005 8:39 PM

Time for vigilante reprisals against such scum since the Canadian gov't is too weeny to do anything about it.

Posted by: Dumbo at July 25, 2005 10:59 PM