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Great reporting from the TimesOnline with thanks to all who sent this in. A more detailed article is here.
AN undercover investigation has caught leaders of a radical Islamic group inciting young British Muslims to become terrorists and praising the Tube bombers as “the fantastic four”. A Sunday Times reporter spent two months as a recruit inside the Saviour Sect to reveal for the first time how the extremist group promotes hatred of “non-believers” and encourages its followers to commit acts of violence including suicide bombings.The reporter witnessed one of the sect’s leading figures, Sheikh Omar Brooks, telling a young audience, including children, that it was the duty of Muslims to be terrorists and boasting, just days before the July 7 attacks, that he wanted to die as a suicide bomber.
After the attacks that claimed 52 lives, another key figure, Zachariah, justified them by saying that the victims were not “innocent” people because they did not abide by strict Islamic laws. In the immediate aftermath the sect’s leader, Omar Bakri Mohammed, said: “For the past 48 hours I’m very happy.” Two weeks later he referred to the bombers as the “fantastic four”.
The evidence compiled by The Sunday Times in hours of transcripts and tapes will lend weight to moves, announced last week by Tony Blair, to proscribe such organisations for providing a breeding ground for would-be terrorists. The attorney-general’s office said last night it would investigate the recent comments by a number of Islamic radicals with a view to prosecution.
The Saviour Sect was established 10 months ago when its predecessor group Al-Muhajiroun was disbanded after coming under close scrutiny by the authorities. Its members meet in secret in halls, followers’ homes and parks. They are so opposed to the British state that they see it as their duty to make no economic contribution to the nation. One member warned our undercover reporter against getting a job because it would be contributing to the kuffar (non-Muslim) system...
Last week Omar Brooks stirred controversy with televised comments, but they were carefully chosen to avoid appearing to incite violence. On Saturday, July 2 he had been more forthright.
Speaking to a group of teenagers and families, he declared it was imperative for Muslims to “instil terror into the hearts of the kuffar” and added: “I am a terrorist. As a Muslim of course I am a terrorist.”
The 30-year-old, who claims to have had military training in Pakistan, said he did not want to go to Allah while sleeping in his bed “like an old woman”. Instead: “I want to be blown into pieces with my hands in one place and my feet in another.”
In public interviews Bakri condemned the killing of all innocent civilians. Later when he addressed his own followers he explained that he had in fact been referring only to Muslims as only they were innocent: “Yes I condemn killing any innocent people, but not any kuffar.”...
Posted by Rebecca at August 7, 2005 3:45 PM
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Got news for y'all...Neither the (W)ahabbster nor Blair will do anything substantive to combat muslim terror.
It's not part of The Plan.
Happy dying Sheeple.
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at August 7, 2005 9:29 PM
OK smatster Itai, what's the plan ?
A reporter courageously joins the death cult, and comes back with a great deal of useful and possibly even life saving information.
You're opportunity to help save the West is contingent on smarts and info and insight, including a working knowledge of a dangerous religion.
What's the plan ?
Posted by: dgene at August 7, 2005 9:51 PM
From the article:
He said: “It says in the Koran that we must try as much as we can to terrorise the enemy . . . we terrorise those people who terrorise us.” His message to Britain was: “Because you’re a genuine democracy, all of you are liable.”
The influence on the younger members of the sect was obvious. Nasser told our reporter not to worry about those who died in the London attacks. They were, he said, “collateral damage” and they were kuffar anyway.
This is not, of course, something that they would say in public. When Bakri finally commented publicly on the bomb attacks, he condemned the deaths of “innocents”. But this was not quite the remorse it seemed.
He said it, not me. ROP® indeed.
at August 7, 2005 11:22 PM
It was important to be unemployed, Nasser said, as taking a job would contribute to the kuffar system. He said he was receiving a jobseeker’s allowance and justified this by saying the prophet Muhammad also lived off the state and attacked it at the same time. “All money belongs to Allah anyway,” he said.
There were other ways to opt out. “All the brothers drive without insurance,” Nasser said proudly.
at August 7, 2005 11:24 PM
The Plan can be discerned by looking at what (W)ahabbster does and does not do.
(W)ahabbster:
- Won't name the enemy.
- Won't enforce any federal border laws (the very definition of a nation).
- Won't profile arab/muslim terrorists.
- Won't make domestic energy production and self-reliance a national security issue.
- Won't mention islam in any context other than glowing Reverential praise.
- Does allow muslim illegal aliens to work here.
- Does have white, Christian, American toddlers and great grandmothers from Dubuque searched at airports.
- Does have a long history of association with arab & muslim terror principals (besides the saudis), e.g. al-Arian, Norquist, CAIR, etc.
- Does continually praise our "intelligence" agencies regardless of how often or how severely they "accidentally" don't see the muslim terrorists in front of them and the case is botched.
- Does allows Marines to die everyday by arab/muslim terrorist hands while even the bushbots at FR are beginning to realize that Iraq will always remain the same old arab muslim hellhole it has always been.
- Does appease arab/muslim terrorists by giving them parts of Eretz Yisrael as a reward for years of killing innocent Jewish civilians.
- Does allow thousands of muslim jihadists to operate freely here.
...And that's just off the top of my head.
Posted by: Itai at August 8, 2005 12:36 AM
Got news for y'all...Neither the (W)ahabbster nor Blair will do anything substantive to combat muslim terror.
He might not have any choice if this conflict should spill onto the sreets.
More people are becoming aware daily.Just look at this comment section,and see how it has grown
Just look how the mood is changing.
Just look at comments I was making one year ago
at August 8, 2005 4:02 AM
Itai=
All too sad and all too true.
But the question was: What's the plan?
Mine would be- vote T. Tancredo and C. Weldon once the Bush days are over. Unless the Democrats or Libertarians or any other group can produce something better.
These two at least know "something is happening", unlike "but you don't know what it is, do you Mr. Jones" W. out trimming the scrub brush in Crawford.
His dhimmitude in having his Scottish Terrier 'Barney' (who greeted Ariel Sharon when he visited the 'ranch') NOT in evidence when the Saudi, whom he held hands with, showed up (since they hate dogs, as haram -unclean- creatures) says volumes about Bush's supine spinelessness.
I'll take one Scottie over every Saudi any day.
Posted by: BigSleep at August 8, 2005 4:09 AM
“I want to be blown into pieces with my hands in one place and my feet in another.”
Can anyone say "Mental Illness?"
at August 8, 2005 8:36 AM
Thanks for reasoning Itai.
In one corner of the fight, it is not for us to reform Islam - it is THEIR problem (or if they think so, their 'salvation') - the issue is reform the religion of hate death and deception, or face deportation.
Any unreformed Sharia State loses its oil, and must be pressured immediately.
The Leftist Profs and Apologists and Fomentors on govt. salaries at universities in the West must be opposed and hopefully fired.
The American Communist Lawyers Union must be exposed for the Fifth Column they are.
Awareness is where its at, then moving with it.
Posted by: dgene at August 8, 2005 9:40 AM
BigSleep,
Remember that a black dog is the devil
The Messanger of Allaah said: 'When any one of you stands for prayer it should be towards something that shields him equivalent (in height) to the back of a saddle, otherwise his prayer will be broken by passing of a donkey, a woman or a black dog.' I asked 'O Abu Dharr, what is the difference between a black dog, a red dog and tan-colored dog?' He replied, 'O son of my brother, I also asked Allaah's Messanger as you are asking me, and he said: 'The black dog is a devil.'" (Saheeh Muslim and all other in the six Saheeh books with the exception of Saheeh al-Bukhaaree)] with two white spots between his eyes would come to me and say, 'Verily such and such a person has made an oath by you and he will come to you tomorrow to inform you about it. I have already fulfilled his need for your sake.' [When questioned during his trial, the infamous New York City mass murderer of the seventies, "Son of Sam", claimed that a dog used to come in backyard of his house and tell him to kill his victims. It was assumed by the court and his psychiatrists that he was mentally deranged and the dog a figment of his imagination.] The person would then come to him the next day and the Sufi master would reveal the details of his oath to him and how it was fulfilled. The Sufi master went on to say, 'I used to walk about the city and a black pole with a light on top of it would lead the way.' " Ibn Taymeeyah said, "When the Sufi master repented and began to pray, fast, and avoid the forbidden, the black dog went away." He also narrated the following about another mystic master who had the aid of devils whom he would despatch to possess people: "When the family of the possessed would come to him seeking a cure, he would send a message to his demon companion and they would leave the possessed persons, as a result, the Shaykh would be given many dirhams for his services. Sometimes the Jinn would bring him dirhams and food which they stole from people, so much so that the Shaykh would request dates from his devils and they would take them from beehives in which some poeple had hidden their dates. When the beehive owners would look for their dates they would find them gone."
Posted by: Carolyn2 at August 8, 2005 11:43 AM
Muslim, Book 010, Number 3813:
Abu Zubair heard Jabir b. 'Abdullah (Allah be pleased with him) saying: Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) ordered us to kill dogs, and we carried out this order so much so that we also kill the dog coming with a woman from the desert. Then Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) forbade their killing. He (the Holy Prophet further) said: It is your duty the jet-black (dog) having two spots (on the eyes), for it is a devil.
at August 8, 2005 11:59 AM
I hope the authorities move very swiftly and decisively to remove these creatures.
No pussy-footing must be allowed we have to stand up against evil.
These people claim to be doing the work of allah (lack of capital is intentional) therefore allah is evil.
Please don't let these creatures gain any further footholds, they must be rooted out and dealt with humanely but positively as one would deal with any mad dog.
at August 8, 2005 9:34 PM
Shiva:
(W)ahabbster and federal "intelligence" agencies have only one duty - to protect us.
Over and over and over they have proven they have no interest and/or ability to do so.
When the next hit occurs, and it will, it will first be necessary to neutralize the enablers before the muslim terrorists.
Muslim terrorists are cowards and bullies, neutralizing them is no problem.
Their enablers however are formidable and will require great effort. As you indicate, it will occur in the streets. FLEOs should decide now whether they want to support the American people or muslim terrorists and their enablers.
I expect that decision will be one that not all of them can live with.
Posted by: Itai at August 9, 2005 12:16 AM
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